Sure, recorded music can generate profit elsewhere, but my contention is that as a product in and of itself it wouldn't. Not that that's a bad thing, just that the market would move elsewhere.
and whatever that Mac browser was called... OmniWeb? Plus CyberDog!
I was there so let me elucidate. Mozilla began in 1998, so let's say Netscape died by 1998. On the Mac, the main available browsers were IE and Netscape at that point. Some people still used Netscape despite it not being supported, some used IE, some used minor players such as iCab and Opera. OmniWeb was a NeXTStep browser, not a Mac browser, at that point. CyberDog was a demonstration of Apple's OpenDoc technology, which died in 1997. CyberDog itself was only supported from 96 to 97, and never really caught on.
In 1997, Apple buys NeXT and Steve Jobs takes over. Jobs makes a deal with Microsoft to settle remaining patent disputes (the residue from the "look and feel" lawsuits of the late 80's). That deal includes such provisions as MS investing $150 million into Apple, MS promising to develop just as many Mac versions of Office as Windows versions for the next five years, and IE becoming the default browser on the Mac, although not being built in the way it was built into Windows 98. Until 2003, Apple is contractually obligated to bundle IE and set it as the default browser.
By 2000, the user base is fractured between just using IE, trying to get old Netscape to work, trying to get Mozilla or new Netscape to work, and trying out fringe browsers. (AOL made a few customized releases of Mozilla under the Netscape branding at the time.) In 2001, Mac OS X comes out. A new version of IE is bundled and set as the default browser. Mozilla eventually gets ported over. iCab and Opera get ported over. OmniWeb gets ported from NeXTStep (which is closer to Mac OS X than Mac OS 9 was).
In 2002, some people, including Dave Hyatt, separate out the browser parts of Mozilla from all the other cruft, put it in a Cocoa wrapper, and release it on Mac OS X as Chimera. Chimera gains a significant userbase. It is now known as Camino for the same types of reasons that Mozilla Phoenix became Mozilla Firefox. Despite having similar goals to Firefox, Chimera's initial release was actually months before the first release of Phoenix (as Firefox was then known). At this point there is competition between IE, Chimera, and OmniWeb. Eventually, Firefox becomes available on Mac OS X as well.
In 2003, Apple releases Safari, some months after hiring Dave Hyatt to make them a browser. Safari is built around WebKit, which is a fork of KHTML, the rendering engine of Konquerer. Later in 2003, Microsoft discontinues IE for Mac, and ever since then the main browsers on the Mac are Safari, Camino, Firefox, and to a smaller extent, OmniWeb and other fringe players.
Copyright in it's original form already does that: "gives us lots of free music".
Yeah, I know. The subject of discussion is what would happen "were it not for copyright extension and vigorous enforcement". In other words, copyright in its original form. ("Its" with no apostrophe since it's possessive, "it's" with an apostrophe since it's a contraction of "it is".)
No, were it not for that, you could quote the lyrics of "Trouble in River City" from Music Man to make your point, provide a link to the audio file, and maybe someone would download the song...and the rest of that artist's oeuvre. At least if it goes as far as it sounds like you want it to. That doesn't make money for anyone, although it does give us plenty of free music.
Honestly, if the sale of recorded music is no longer profitable, that's just the way it is and the presence or lack of DRM wouldn't have prevented that. It's just a natural consequence of peer-to-peer file sharing being available. Now, it's more likely that the sale of recorded music isn't as lucrative as it used to be, but even in a free market it's best to let naturally-declining markets decline rather than prop them up artificially (i.e. US Steel, GM)--the long term gains always outweigh the short term turbulence.
Actually a lot of the Blame Society videos are pretty good. "A Wicked Deception" is funny in particular--it's a short film with the dialogue machine-translated from English to French to German to French to English again. "Fun Rangers" is funny in a more absurdist way than Chad Vader.
Your post has been identified as a primary source of smug. Smug emissions are reaching an all-time high so it is important to locate and cite all offenders. You have now been officially cited. Have a nice day.
Maybe you do need a passport to get in from Mexico. I just don't know. Mexico is far, far away from where I am right now so I don't pay heed to the news about it.
SS2, as I understand, is the production model, and as far as we can tell it's well suited to its mission of suborbital passenger joyrides. I answered your basic concerns (which you began this thread with) in another comment, but I'll summarize them again here: while the Scaled Composites spacecraft do absolutely nothing to help the supply-side of the private spaceflight market, they nonetheless establish a hell of a lot on the demand side. In economic (but not technical) terms, that will help the development of orbital technologies you're concerned with.
SS1, SS2, etc. don't go into orbit. They only make suborbital flights. They don't reach the altitudes necessary to maintain an orbit. So that's really a different issue from what I was talking about.
You need a passport to go to Canada or Mexicao? That's odd, none of the Mexicans I've met here in Illinois have passports. Maybe they waded across the river?
Maybe they did, dude. I've read your journal and you don't seem to hang out with law-abiding types. But yeah. I don't know about Mexico but Canada, while they don't require a passport to get in, the US is starting to require a passport to let you back.
On a technical level you're right. But SS2 addresses a different problem. Once joyrides into space are sold, space tourism will be established as a market. Right now space tourism is a single-segment market: for several million dollars the Russians will sell you one of their spots on the space station. Aside from that, no one knows for sure how many people will pay how much money to go into space. If SpaceShipTwo is a commercial success, that decreases the risk and proves the potential return of investing in private space technology. That means more money to develop orbital technology and expand the market into yet a third segment, namely orbital tourism.
Dude, we know about your journal already, and it's getting fucking tiresome watching you spam Slashdot to get everyone to read it. I hate to say this because your journal actually is interesting, but it's true.
This is what makes it such a great example of art. After all, most art that does have a social or political message, has a message that's poorly thought out and superficial (i.e. Marxism).
I would like to begin my reply by imploring you to use linguistic features like "paragraphs" to organize your thoughts so that they are easier to read.
The airwaves should not even be owned but licenced
As the article summary notes:
... the FCC will begin auctioning licenses to the coveted 700 MHz band...
As for the rest of your comment, it is as poorly thought out as it is written and organized.
Plus, the first craft was more of a proof-of-concept. If they're going to do extensive flight testing into suborbital space, it ought to be on the production model.
This might change once I have kids, but I'd rather my children to become wealthy or not based on their own merits, instead of being spoiled with wealth that I've earned. I'm serious--aside from the costs of raising them properly and sending them to college, my kids ain't getting shit from me. Any money that's left over after I die is gonna go towards the Phil Welch Memorial Library, in memory of my dedication to learning, naming things after myself, and meritocracy. If I die before they're properly raised and sent to college, then it'll go to the Phil Welch's Kids Support And Education Fund, the remainder of which will be donated to the Phil Welch Memorial Library after they graduate.
No, "Cairo" was the code name for some Windows work they did in the mid-90's, but like Apple's Copland, never really shipped as its own product (although elements made it into Windows 95, which was codenamed Chicago). Incidentally, Windows 98 was codenamed "Memphis", which is delightfully ambiguous as it could be interpreted either as a successor to Cairo or as a successor to "Nashville" (the cancelled Windows 96 project). Windows XP was codenamed "Whistler".
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Sure, recorded music can generate profit elsewhere, but my contention is that as a product in and of itself it wouldn't. Not that that's a bad thing, just that the market would move elsewhere.
We shouldn't abandon space travel simply to explore the earth, but on the same token, we shouldn't abandon the earth simply to explore space either!
I was there so let me elucidate. Mozilla began in 1998, so let's say Netscape died by 1998. On the Mac, the main available browsers were IE and Netscape at that point. Some people still used Netscape despite it not being supported, some used IE, some used minor players such as iCab and Opera. OmniWeb was a NeXTStep browser, not a Mac browser, at that point. CyberDog was a demonstration of Apple's OpenDoc technology, which died in 1997. CyberDog itself was only supported from 96 to 97, and never really caught on.
In 1997, Apple buys NeXT and Steve Jobs takes over. Jobs makes a deal with Microsoft to settle remaining patent disputes (the residue from the "look and feel" lawsuits of the late 80's). That deal includes such provisions as MS investing $150 million into Apple, MS promising to develop just as many Mac versions of Office as Windows versions for the next five years, and IE becoming the default browser on the Mac, although not being built in the way it was built into Windows 98. Until 2003, Apple is contractually obligated to bundle IE and set it as the default browser.
By 2000, the user base is fractured between just using IE, trying to get old Netscape to work, trying to get Mozilla or new Netscape to work, and trying out fringe browsers. (AOL made a few customized releases of Mozilla under the Netscape branding at the time.) In 2001, Mac OS X comes out. A new version of IE is bundled and set as the default browser. Mozilla eventually gets ported over. iCab and Opera get ported over. OmniWeb gets ported from NeXTStep (which is closer to Mac OS X than Mac OS 9 was).
In 2002, some people, including Dave Hyatt, separate out the browser parts of Mozilla from all the other cruft, put it in a Cocoa wrapper, and release it on Mac OS X as Chimera. Chimera gains a significant userbase. It is now known as Camino for the same types of reasons that Mozilla Phoenix became Mozilla Firefox. Despite having similar goals to Firefox, Chimera's initial release was actually months before the first release of Phoenix (as Firefox was then known). At this point there is competition between IE, Chimera, and OmniWeb. Eventually, Firefox becomes available on Mac OS X as well.
In 2003, Apple releases Safari, some months after hiring Dave Hyatt to make them a browser. Safari is built around WebKit, which is a fork of KHTML, the rendering engine of Konquerer. Later in 2003, Microsoft discontinues IE for Mac, and ever since then the main browsers on the Mac are Safari, Camino, Firefox, and to a smaller extent, OmniWeb and other fringe players.
Yeah, I know. The subject of discussion is what would happen "were it not for copyright extension and vigorous enforcement". In other words, copyright in its original form. ("Its" with no apostrophe since it's possessive, "it's" with an apostrophe since it's a contraction of "it is".)
No, were it not for that, you could quote the lyrics of "Trouble in River City" from Music Man to make your point, provide a link to the audio file, and maybe someone would download the song...and the rest of that artist's oeuvre. At least if it goes as far as it sounds like you want it to. That doesn't make money for anyone, although it does give us plenty of free music.
Honestly, if the sale of recorded music is no longer profitable, that's just the way it is and the presence or lack of DRM wouldn't have prevented that. It's just a natural consequence of peer-to-peer file sharing being available. Now, it's more likely that the sale of recorded music isn't as lucrative as it used to be, but even in a free market it's best to let naturally-declining markets decline rather than prop them up artificially (i.e. US Steel, GM)--the long term gains always outweigh the short term turbulence.
Actually a lot of the Blame Society videos are pretty good. "A Wicked Deception" is funny in particular--it's a short film with the dialogue machine-translated from English to French to German to French to English again. "Fun Rangers" is funny in a more absurdist way than Chad Vader.
Your post has been identified as a primary source of smug. Smug emissions are reaching an all-time high so it is important to locate and cite all offenders. You have now been officially cited. Have a nice day.
Maybe you do need a passport to get in from Mexico. I just don't know. Mexico is far, far away from where I am right now so I don't pay heed to the news about it.
SS2, as I understand, is the production model, and as far as we can tell it's well suited to its mission of suborbital passenger joyrides. I answered your basic concerns (which you began this thread with) in another comment, but I'll summarize them again here: while the Scaled Composites spacecraft do absolutely nothing to help the supply-side of the private spaceflight market, they nonetheless establish a hell of a lot on the demand side. In economic (but not technical) terms, that will help the development of orbital technologies you're concerned with.
SS1, SS2, etc. don't go into orbit. They only make suborbital flights. They don't reach the altitudes necessary to maintain an orbit. So that's really a different issue from what I was talking about.
Maybe they did, dude. I've read your journal and you don't seem to hang out with law-abiding types. But yeah. I don't know about Mexico but Canada, while they don't require a passport to get in, the US is starting to require a passport to let you back.
On a technical level you're right. But SS2 addresses a different problem. Once joyrides into space are sold, space tourism will be established as a market. Right now space tourism is a single-segment market: for several million dollars the Russians will sell you one of their spots on the space station. Aside from that, no one knows for sure how many people will pay how much money to go into space. If SpaceShipTwo is a commercial success, that decreases the risk and proves the potential return of investing in private space technology. That means more money to develop orbital technology and expand the market into yet a third segment, namely orbital tourism.
Dude, we know about your journal already, and it's getting fucking tiresome watching you spam Slashdot to get everyone to read it. I hate to say this because your journal actually is interesting, but it's true.
This is what makes it such a great example of art. After all, most art that does have a social or political message, has a message that's poorly thought out and superficial (i.e. Marxism).
I would like to begin my reply by imploring you to use linguistic features like "paragraphs" to organize your thoughts so that they are easier to read.
The airwaves should not even be owned but licencedAs the article summary notes:
... the FCC will begin auctioning licenses to the coveted 700 MHz band...As for the rest of your comment, it is as poorly thought out as it is written and organized.
Plus, the first craft was more of a proof-of-concept. If they're going to do extensive flight testing into suborbital space, it ought to be on the production model.
No, geeks are people who waste time coding, writing proofs, or working on similar projects.
I can tell you don't have an MBA!
You're probably going to have to make sure that the CEO's 1-year-old daughter isn't named as the copyright holder for everything.
This might change once I have kids, but I'd rather my children to become wealthy or not based on their own merits, instead of being spoiled with wealth that I've earned. I'm serious--aside from the costs of raising them properly and sending them to college, my kids ain't getting shit from me. Any money that's left over after I die is gonna go towards the Phil Welch Memorial Library, in memory of my dedication to learning, naming things after myself, and meritocracy. If I die before they're properly raised and sent to college, then it'll go to the Phil Welch's Kids Support And Education Fund, the remainder of which will be donated to the Phil Welch Memorial Library after they graduate.
No, "Cairo" was the code name for some Windows work they did in the mid-90's, but like Apple's Copland, never really shipped as its own product (although elements made it into Windows 95, which was codenamed Chicago). Incidentally, Windows 98 was codenamed "Memphis", which is delightfully ambiguous as it could be interpreted either as a successor to Cairo or as a successor to "Nashville" (the cancelled Windows 96 project). Windows XP was codenamed "Whistler".
"Leaving the country" can mean "visiting the next town" depending on where you live.
I think that's what he meant by "email me a brief summary".
I think that was a joke. A play on words centered on the phrase "root password to a co-worker". Hence the "get me a sandwich" bit.