...nor does he practice Islam, which is really the central issue, isn't it? Jobs may be of Arab descent, but he was adopted by whites and raised like pretty much any other white American. And there are times he eschews shaving.
Or you could always take caffeine pills with Pure Florida Orange Juice, which is twelve times as healthy and contains all the caffeine you need. Then you don't have to try pouring hot, bitter liquids down your throat!
The war was largely justified by economic means, because even in the North no one was particularly fond of blacks. The motive, even for ending slavery, wasn't moral in nature. Abolitionism existed, but it wasn't the driving force.
Right, liberal Republicans. Mitt Romney pretending to be conservative (hell, even pretending to be moderate) is a new development that only came about when he tried running for office outside Massachusetts.
the slave states were not technically abusing their powers at all
That's where you and I differ. Enslaving human beings is an abuse of the law, even if the law specifically gives no one the right to interfere with you.
Why not simply forget forcing the states into issuing "approved" IDs and just require a passport for anyone who wants to fly between states?
Because passports should not be required for travel within a country. A passport is government authorization to travel, combined with the government vouching for the identity and trustworthiness of the traveler. There's no reason to require that for travel within the country someone is already a citizen of.
Of course, there was considerable abuse of state power that had to be stopped--the Southern states enslaved blacks, denied them civil rights, refused to prosecute as murderers those who lynched them, and every single time the federal government tried to intervene, Southern whites complained about "states rights".
It's impossible to both contribute and moderate in the same discussion--although my criticism of your initial post clearly did influence later down-moderations. (Haven't you ever noticed that political rants automatically get modded up by whoever agrees with them, regardless of whether they're sensible or coherently written?) In any case, keep making excuses for yourself--I don't care about your family anyway, but you're the one screwing them over, not the Republicans, and if you ever decide to man up and take responsibility for your own life you'll realize that.
If you can't see that getting a Blu-Ray DVD player, a reasonable powerful fully functional home computer, and what is possible the most powerful game console on the market for $600 is a good value, then I think you might do well to take some economics courses.
I have taken economics courses. Have you? Value doesn't exist in a vacuum, it only exists relative to the needs and desires of consumers. Value is the exact same thing as "what the consumer is willing to pay", and considering that extremely few consumers are willing to pay for the PS3, I think we can conclude that the PS3 is a poor value from that alone.
Originally you implied there were not vendors of PS3s with linux pre installed
I did no such thing. I implied from the outset that typical consumers didn't buy from these vendors simply because they were minor players that no one's heard of before. I apologize if that was unclear, but I suspect you're deliberately misrepresenting my arguments--a rather dishonest way to discuss things, isn't it?
Yes you can buy a PC that does most of those things but that's rather irrelevant
That's also not the point I was making. There's a difference between "can buy" and "already own".
The comparison to a Mac Mini is quite interesting really. People don't bat an eyelid at the cost of a Mac, yet pan the price of a PS3 even though it costs the same and is a far more capable device.
Yes and I bet it cost only $500 (or $600), sits under your TV and has a kickass games console built-in. Right?
The point is, I already have my computer. Most people already own computers, and it's been that way since the late 90's. The question, then, is what can this PS3 do that people's existing computers can't. Play PS3 and PS2 games? That's not worth $500 to most people.
And let's imagine that I wanted to buy a new computer. Would a PS3 fit the bill? Well, it runs a web browser, and I can download digital content. That's kind of nice, except very limited compared to what a real PC can do. Oh, I can load Linux on the PS3? That's nice, except now I have to reboot the thing every time I want to switch back to PS3 mode. And it takes up my TV set. And it's not particularly portable, unless I want to carry an HDTV around.
If you're marketing the PS3 to an imaginary person who has money to spend, owns an HDTV, but has no PC (or wants a new PC) and wants to buy a game console, I concede that person might buy it--if his computing needs were extremely simple. If Sony is going after that market, however, no wonder the PS3 is a sales disaster.
Damn I'd don't think I have ever seen anyone miss a point by so much.
Then you should try reading your own posts over again before you hit "submit". You're missing some excellent examples.
I never tried to assert that the PS2 was a value for you
You never made any assertions about the PS2. But you are arguing that the PS3 is a good value for the typical consumer, or at least for a large subset of consumers, and it's that argument I'm criticizing.
And just so you know the typical user does buy from a specific vendor that will supply them with a computer and their chosen OS already installed.
Certainly, but that's the PC market, not the console market. I doubt Terra Soft, or any other Linux installer, represents a significant proportion of the share of PS3 sales. Do you honestly believe otherwise?
It's interesting--animation and special effects used to be completely different techniques, but now the only difference is that one is supposed to look like animation and one is supposed to look realistic. Wouldn't it be possible to shoot Gwyneth's performance against greenscreen and then do the CGI specifically to fit her performance? Or would it perhaps be too time-consuming and expensive to go to that level of detail?
And why exactly should I care what people think of me after I'm dead? I'm dead. As far as I'm concerned, the world could end at the exact moment of my death, and as long as there was no advance warning before I actually died, I would never be able to tell the difference.
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...nor does he practice Islam, which is really the central issue, isn't it? Jobs may be of Arab descent, but he was adopted by whites and raised like pretty much any other white American. And there are times he eschews shaving.
Or you could always take caffeine pills with Pure Florida Orange Juice, which is twelve times as healthy and contains all the caffeine you need. Then you don't have to try pouring hot, bitter liquids down your throat!
You know, I always found caffeine pills more cost-efficient, particularly if I took them with a can of Coke.
"Officer" is generally meant as "commissioned officer" when used as a single word.
The war was largely justified by economic means, because even in the North no one was particularly fond of blacks. The motive, even for ending slavery, wasn't moral in nature. Abolitionism existed, but it wasn't the driving force.
Right, liberal Republicans. Mitt Romney pretending to be conservative (hell, even pretending to be moderate) is a new development that only came about when he tried running for office outside Massachusetts.
That's where you and I differ. Enslaving human beings is an abuse of the law, even if the law specifically gives no one the right to interfere with you.
Yes, and I at least gave the proper salutation (Dr. instead of Mr.).
...based on the HMMWV design, until the brand-name was appropriated for smaller, more fuel-efficient SUV's.
Enlisted sailors are saluted? I thought salutes were reserved for officers.
Futurama reruns did very well on Adult Swim the same time as Family Guy, and Family Guy was picked up again.
I thought Austrians trilled their 'r's with the tip of their tongue. Or is that another thing that fell out of fashion after Hitler did it?
Having looked at the JPEG, I'll gladly tell it to SGI's O2.
From what? Liberal Republican to Liberal Democrat?
Because passports should not be required for travel within a country. A passport is government authorization to travel, combined with the government vouching for the identity and trustworthiness of the traveler. There's no reason to require that for travel within the country someone is already a citizen of.
Of course, there was considerable abuse of state power that had to be stopped--the Southern states enslaved blacks, denied them civil rights, refused to prosecute as murderers those who lynched them, and every single time the federal government tried to intervene, Southern whites complained about "states rights".
It's impossible to both contribute and moderate in the same discussion--although my criticism of your initial post clearly did influence later down-moderations. (Haven't you ever noticed that political rants automatically get modded up by whoever agrees with them, regardless of whether they're sensible or coherently written?) In any case, keep making excuses for yourself--I don't care about your family anyway, but you're the one screwing them over, not the Republicans, and if you ever decide to man up and take responsibility for your own life you'll realize that.
I have taken economics courses. Have you? Value doesn't exist in a vacuum, it only exists relative to the needs and desires of consumers. Value is the exact same thing as "what the consumer is willing to pay", and considering that extremely few consumers are willing to pay for the PS3, I think we can conclude that the PS3 is a poor value from that alone.
I did no such thing. I implied from the outset that typical consumers didn't buy from these vendors simply because they were minor players that no one's heard of before. I apologize if that was unclear, but I suspect you're deliberately misrepresenting my arguments--a rather dishonest way to discuss things, isn't it?
That's also not the point I was making. There's a difference between "can buy" and "already own".
"Far more capable"...absurd.
Sweet! More sleeping in for me!
The point is, I already have my computer. Most people already own computers, and it's been that way since the late 90's. The question, then, is what can this PS3 do that people's existing computers can't. Play PS3 and PS2 games? That's not worth $500 to most people.
And let's imagine that I wanted to buy a new computer. Would a PS3 fit the bill? Well, it runs a web browser, and I can download digital content. That's kind of nice, except very limited compared to what a real PC can do. Oh, I can load Linux on the PS3? That's nice, except now I have to reboot the thing every time I want to switch back to PS3 mode. And it takes up my TV set. And it's not particularly portable, unless I want to carry an HDTV around.
If you're marketing the PS3 to an imaginary person who has money to spend, owns an HDTV, but has no PC (or wants a new PC) and wants to buy a game console, I concede that person might buy it--if his computing needs were extremely simple. If Sony is going after that market, however, no wonder the PS3 is a sales disaster.
Then you should try reading your own posts over again before you hit "submit". You're missing some excellent examples.
You never made any assertions about the PS2. But you are arguing that the PS3 is a good value for the typical consumer, or at least for a large subset of consumers, and it's that argument I'm criticizing.
Certainly, but that's the PC market, not the console market. I doubt Terra Soft, or any other Linux installer, represents a significant proportion of the share of PS3 sales. Do you honestly believe otherwise?
Well that's a mature way of responding to criticism.
It's interesting--animation and special effects used to be completely different techniques, but now the only difference is that one is supposed to look like animation and one is supposed to look realistic. Wouldn't it be possible to shoot Gwyneth's performance against greenscreen and then do the CGI specifically to fit her performance? Or would it perhaps be too time-consuming and expensive to go to that level of detail?
And why exactly should I care what people think of me after I'm dead? I'm dead. As far as I'm concerned, the world could end at the exact moment of my death, and as long as there was no advance warning before I actually died, I would never be able to tell the difference.