The two google engineers in question found that if we cut off carbon emission TODAY (like, say, going nuclear) it would already be too late. They were advocating climate engineering, which is to say we need NOT ONLY a cuttoff of carbon emission, but also massive carbon CAPTURE.
The submitter apparently didn't even read the article this time. How Sad.
Racism in America is over people. We got a black president, everything's equal now. See? The comment above proves it. No More Racism. Phew... Well, glad we fixed that, on to global warming.
I'm very curious why so many people NEED to have this not be racism. They seem awfully defensive about it. I think it's because they don't want to admit the problem is still real, because that might mean they were part of the problem. Even the most racist of my Elders swears they're not racist, while making giant racist statements in public. "Now, I'm not a racist, but...."
America has a problem. Well, the whole world has a problem, but I live here damnit... And I've started to notice that little sneer people say when they talk about "liberals" and "progressives", as if wanting an equal playing field and a little justice and accountability is a bad thing.... What's wrong with you people?
I haven't seen those statistics... Where might I find them? Somewhere other than your ass please?:D
Remember kids, we don't have the death penalty for robbery. If we did, a JUDGE hands it out, not the cops. Brown MAY have been an asshole, but we don't shoot people for that. I don't want to live in a country where the cops can shoot people and there are no consequences.
I'd cry about the morality of the age, but I think we've always been like this. I don't believe in "the good ole days" when people had more empathy for their fellow human beings.
angry people shouting makes for better ratings than sad people marching peacefully. You should know by know that the media in America is after ratings, not truth. As to the video of Brown in the store? We don't give death penalties for being an asshole.
Cops have tasers for a reason.
Cops should have cameras on them at all times. It keeps the cops and the citizens more civil and more honest.
This is why cops should wear cameras. If we're going to authorize a human being to shoot another human being, there should be a record to see if that shooting was justified. All of this could be a clear case if we could simply watch what had happened.
The problem isn't that Brown was black and Wilson was white. The problem is that cops keep killing black people. This isn't an isolated incident, and the people of Ferguson aren't marching because of one victim. This has been building for a LONG time. America still has a race problem. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply doesn't know what they're talking about.
I used to be one of the folks that said racism was dead. I used to be one of the folks who said the system was equal. Then I had experiences that showed me otherwise.
All this arguing serves for nothing. Those people that think racism is ended and all of this is just black people whining cannot be convinced. No one ever had an arguement and then stopped and said "Gosh, you're right, I've been wrong this whole time!". They (just like me back then) need to see this in themselves, in others, in the world.... Experience is the great teacher.
A boy is dead. He didn't have to die. Whatever he did or didn't do, he should not be dead. It keeps happening. Hell, it happens almost every week... and that's NOT an exaggeration. What happened in the last week? Oh yeah, that (completely innocent) dude shot in the stairwell by a rookie cop in NYC.
All this arguing back and forth is sad. A boy is dead. A human being died. Have some f'in respect people.....
Ahem.... There were TWO bills, ONE of which was introduced by Jim Sensenbrenner, a republican in the House. I don't know how it started, and Sensenbrenner is the guy that helped WRITE the Patriot Act, who later said "oops". He gets credit for that in my book. Anyway, the HOUSE (R controlled) version went through committees and THAT version extended the Patriot act and didn't go far enough.
The OTHER bill was introduced by Patrick Leahy, a Dem in the Senate. THAT version was stronger, and THAT version unequivocally was BLOCKED by Republicans in the Sentate.
you know, that's actually not true. If everyone up and voted Independant, we'd have a radically different government. That Rs and Ds can scare us into voting for them, using each other to fear monger, is OUR failure.
This isn't the Government's fault. This is OUR fault. They stay in power through OUR stupidity and ignorance.
AC is complaining about washington. Meanwhile, if the government tried to do this, there'd be some dude ranting about death panels and socialism. I get that my cry of hypocracy isn't entirely accurate. We're all fed up with Washington (Meanwhile, how many independants were elected this midterm cycle? Oh, none?) and we all understand that Washington is filled with crony capitalists and bought politicians, with a few minor exceptions that I can count on one hand.... But that doesn't automatically mean we can safely assume that taking care of old people isn't the role of government....
" The problem is the corrupt officials that demand kickbacks for letting any of that happen, the religious fuckwits demanding medieval education and the racist cunts outraged that someone in another village may be trying to better themselves. [] But that's Africa for you."
Are you SURE that's just Africa? It sounds pretty familiar.
I have a hard time taking ANYONE seriously after they've called Obama a socialist. I don't think you know what that word means... I don't think you know what a LOT of words mean....
"There IS still the debate on whether Comcast is genuine on wanting net neutrality."
Uh.. no there isn't. They don't want net neutrality. They are NOT genuine on wanting it. There is no debate.
I also think you're a shill.... The internet WAS title II regulated, and started going downhill when we removed that regulation. Title II is simple, and not onerous, and we had a boom time in network upgrades and rollouts under it, because it forced the big guys to lease lines to the little guys at a fair price.
When Clinton was proposing to his health care fix back in the 90s... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..., the Republicans came up with this brilliant plan of using mandates to buy private insurance. Sound familiar?
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...... "An individual mandate to purchase healthcare was initially proposed by the politically conservative Heritage Foundation in 1989 as an alternative to single-payer health care. From its inception, the idea of an individual mandate was championed by Republican politicians as a free-market approach to health-care reform.[13][14] The individual mandate was felt to resonate with conservative principles of individual responsibility, and conservative groups recognized that the healthcare market was unique."
So, yes, some of us are a bit irked that the Great Hope passed a conservative health care reform bill.....
I should note, 80% spent on premiums would start a RIOT in other countries. They get pissed when the insurance companies are keeping 5% for "overhead". Our 20% is a joke.
It should be obvious to everyone that the only reason Republicans are opposed to the ACA is "Because Governement is bad!" and that they've gerrymandered their own districts so much that Ronald Reagan couldn't win a Republican primary any more... He's too far left!
I like how NONE of the corporate owned media is saying that the internet WAS regulated under title 2 back in the day, and it KICKED ASS back then. I like how none of the corporate owned media is mentioning how awesome it was back in the dial up days since the phone companies HAD to lease their lines. I like how no one mentions the plethora of small independant ISPs we had, how real competition kept prices sane, and how even today you can probably find a couple of dial up ISPs in your neighborhood (shudder).
The internet prospered under Title 2. Put it back there.....
In addition to the fine replies above, perhaps they should ALSO shoulder the burden because they took HUGE subsidies from the government to create the pipes they're now trying to monopolize...
Also, WHAT burden? Is it a burden to NOT fuck up the pipes?
Start talking about the Koran or explosions while you're in an airplane.... It may not be ILLEGAL per se, but they'll still ground the plane and give you a cavity search..... America is NOT the land of the free, no matter how many times you repeat it to yourself.
The idea of a large vs. small government goes all the way back to Hamilton and Jefferson. Don't try to tell us it's some newfangled idea that's overthrowing the Will Of The Founders. The Founders argued about this stuff all the time.
Further, don't try to make washington out to be Progressives. Washington's not progressive at all. Progressives would actually use the power of government to help people. FDR was a freak'in progressive. I can count real progressives in Washington on one hand.... And I'd have to look up a few names...
Except the deficit is going down, so... How do you explain that? I think you just want to believe that Obama spends like no one else.
Go look at the deficits... As far as I can tell, under republican presidents we spend LOTS of money, and under democrat presidents we reign it in. Don't forget that under clinton we actually had a surplus. Look at the deficits under Obama. Look a the data, not what the TV is telling you...
I'm sick of this thread, and I'm sick of all of you. You're all petulant children throwing tantrums. These comments aren't even worth reading. They're all just more of the same bashing without any substance or actual discussion.
This is INTERESTING and you're all too busy throwing out tropes that any honest actor would dismiss as ad hominem attacks to actually discuss this. Conservatives react slightly stronger to disgusting images. We know this of course. This has been theorized and shown before. Of course, a more liberal person will have different areas light up too.
This means there's a very real perception filter difference happening here, and perhaps we need to extend a little empathy across the quite imaginary isle and try to TALK to one another.
No. Liberals do not want to laze around and let the government do everything for them. No. Conservatives do not want perpetual war. No. Liberals do not want other people to pay for their stuff. No. Conservatives do not blame unions and immigrants for everything. You people should KNOW these simplistic tropes are full of it, and here they are flung around as if true.
I'm liberal. My best friend is conservative. When we listen to each other, really listen instead of hearing what the TV wants us to hear from each other, we can have very nice discussions about economics and the world. We both want bankers punished for what they did. We both want the economic system to be regulated. We both want clean air and water. We both want to get the !@#$ out of the middle east. We both want to live in a country that's fair and just. Our differences are far less than our similarities.
Bah. I'm ranting.... this is interesting science and all of you completely missed it in an attempt to sling shit all over. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
I have old Linksys wireless routers with DDWrt loaded out in the backyard. It's Oregon. It rains here... I used tupperware containers(or whatever fits from Home Depot), and a little hole for the power cord and some silicone calk in the hole.
You can double enclose, and it'll run you maybe $10.:D
Which, I guess since you called me a "Moonbat American" (which I had to look up. TIL "Moonbat is a term used in United States politics as a pejorative political epithet referring to progressives or leftists." ) means you're probably a rightie (should have known from the spelling, my bad.) and I guess you probably DO think all the security theater and warrantless wiretapping is a good idea and it's caught loads of terrorists....
BTW, I kid. I AM a dirty liberal, but I have conservative friends. We all agree that no one sane wants all this stupidity we've gotten ourselves into. I'm giving Anonymous a hard time, and yes poking fun at conservatives for being dumb, which isn't fair or respectful no matter HOW funny or accurate those stereotypes are. Sorry y'all. One loony does not make a whole ideology. Respect to my Conservative Brothers and Sister. Don't let the Crazy people define you. Don't let the Crazy people define me either.
There are roughly 300million Americans. Are you saying only a third of the country is with you? Also, you ironically misspelled Dumbass. Also, I think you maaay have missed what I was saying.... I hope? Unless you're saying that all this security theater and warrantless wiretapping was a GOOD idea and it's caught loads of terrorists?
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The two google engineers in question found that if we cut off carbon emission TODAY (like, say, going nuclear) it would already be too late. They were advocating climate engineering, which is to say we need NOT ONLY a cuttoff of carbon emission, but also massive carbon CAPTURE.
The submitter apparently didn't even read the article this time. How Sad.
Racism in America is over people. We got a black president, everything's equal now. See? The comment above proves it. No More Racism. Phew... Well, glad we fixed that, on to global warming.
I'm very curious why so many people NEED to have this not be racism. They seem awfully defensive about it. I think it's because they don't want to admit the problem is still real, because that might mean they were part of the problem. Even the most racist of my Elders swears they're not racist, while making giant racist statements in public. "Now, I'm not a racist, but...."
America has a problem. Well, the whole world has a problem, but I live here damnit... And I've started to notice that little sneer people say when they talk about "liberals" and "progressives", as if wanting an equal playing field and a little justice and accountability is a bad thing.... What's wrong with you people?
I haven't seen those statistics... Where might I find them? Somewhere other than your ass please? :D
Remember kids, we don't have the death penalty for robbery. If we did, a JUDGE hands it out, not the cops. Brown MAY have been an asshole, but we don't shoot people for that. I don't want to live in a country where the cops can shoot people and there are no consequences.
I'd cry about the morality of the age, but I think we've always been like this. I don't believe in "the good ole days" when people had more empathy for their fellow human beings.
What's wrong with you people? Why are you broken?
angry people shouting makes for better ratings than sad people marching peacefully. You should know by know that the media in America is after ratings, not truth. As to the video of Brown in the store? We don't give death penalties for being an asshole.
Cops have tasers for a reason.
Cops should have cameras on them at all times. It keeps the cops and the citizens more civil and more honest.
This is why cops should wear cameras. If we're going to authorize a human being to shoot another human being, there should be a record to see if that shooting was justified. All of this could be a clear case if we could simply watch what had happened.
Hey Hairy Feet? Why is it bad to have empathy for people? Why are you making fun of people for caring about other people? What's wrong with you?
And why does your song automatically assume that non whites kill or steal? Why are you so scornful to women?
Why is it a bad thing to want justice in the world? Why is that a bad thing?
blah blah blah blah.....
The problem isn't that Brown was black and Wilson was white. The problem is that cops keep killing black people. This isn't an isolated incident, and the people of Ferguson aren't marching because of one victim. This has been building for a LONG time. America still has a race problem. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply doesn't know what they're talking about.
I used to be one of the folks that said racism was dead. I used to be one of the folks who said the system was equal. Then I had experiences that showed me otherwise.
All this arguing serves for nothing. Those people that think racism is ended and all of this is just black people whining cannot be convinced. No one ever had an arguement and then stopped and said "Gosh, you're right, I've been wrong this whole time!". They (just like me back then) need to see this in themselves, in others, in the world.... Experience is the great teacher.
A boy is dead. He didn't have to die. Whatever he did or didn't do, he should not be dead. It keeps happening. Hell, it happens almost every week... and that's NOT an exaggeration. What happened in the last week? Oh yeah, that (completely innocent) dude shot in the stairwell by a rookie cop in NYC.
All this arguing back and forth is sad. A boy is dead. A human being died. Have some f'in respect people.....
Ahem.... There were TWO bills, ONE of which was introduced by Jim Sensenbrenner, a republican in the House. I don't know how it started, and Sensenbrenner is the guy that helped WRITE the Patriot Act, who later said "oops". He gets credit for that in my book. Anyway, the HOUSE (R controlled) version went through committees and THAT version extended the Patriot act and didn't go far enough.
The OTHER bill was introduced by Patrick Leahy, a Dem in the Senate. THAT version was stronger, and THAT version unequivocally was BLOCKED by Republicans in the Sentate.
If you'd care to look for yourself... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...
So, it seems you don't know what you're talking about....
you know, that's actually not true. If everyone up and voted Independant, we'd have a radically different government. That Rs and Ds can scare us into voting for them, using each other to fear monger, is OUR failure.
This isn't the Government's fault. This is OUR fault. They stay in power through OUR stupidity and ignorance.
AC is complaining about washington. Meanwhile, if the government tried to do this, there'd be some dude ranting about death panels and socialism. I get that my cry of hypocracy isn't entirely accurate. We're all fed up with Washington (Meanwhile, how many independants were elected this midterm cycle? Oh, none?) and we all understand that Washington is filled with crony capitalists and bought politicians, with a few minor exceptions that I can count on one hand.... But that doesn't automatically mean we can safely assume that taking care of old people isn't the role of government....
" The problem is the corrupt officials that demand kickbacks for letting any of that happen, the religious fuckwits demanding medieval education and the racist cunts outraged that someone in another village may be trying to better themselves. [] But that's Africa for you."
Are you SURE that's just Africa? It sounds pretty familiar.
I have a hard time taking ANYONE seriously after they've called Obama a socialist. I don't think you know what that word means... I don't think you know what a LOT of words mean....
"There IS still the debate on whether Comcast is genuine on wanting net neutrality."
Uh.. no there isn't. They don't want net neutrality. They are NOT genuine on wanting it. There is no debate.
I also think you're a shill.... The internet WAS title II regulated, and started going downhill when we removed that regulation. Title II is simple, and not onerous, and we had a boom time in network upgrades and rollouts under it, because it forced the big guys to lease lines to the little guys at a fair price.
You sir, are a liar.
When Clinton was proposing to his health care fix back in the 90s... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..., the Republicans came up with this brilliant plan of using mandates to buy private insurance. Sound familiar?
From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H... ... "An individual mandate to purchase healthcare was initially proposed by the politically conservative Heritage Foundation in 1989 as an alternative to single-payer health care. From its inception, the idea of an individual mandate was championed by Republican politicians as a free-market approach to health-care reform.[13][14] The individual mandate was felt to resonate with conservative principles of individual responsibility, and conservative groups recognized that the healthcare market was unique."
So, yes, some of us are a bit irked that the Great Hope passed a conservative health care reform bill.....
I should note, 80% spent on premiums would start a RIOT in other countries. They get pissed when the insurance companies are keeping 5% for "overhead". Our 20% is a joke.
It should be obvious to everyone that the only reason Republicans are opposed to the ACA is "Because Governement is bad!" and that they've gerrymandered their own districts so much that Ronald Reagan couldn't win a Republican primary any more... He's too far left!
I like how NONE of the corporate owned media is saying that the internet WAS regulated under title 2 back in the day, and it KICKED ASS back then. I like how none of the corporate owned media is mentioning how awesome it was back in the dial up days since the phone companies HAD to lease their lines. I like how no one mentions the plethora of small independant ISPs we had, how real competition kept prices sane, and how even today you can probably find a couple of dial up ISPs in your neighborhood (shudder).
The internet prospered under Title 2. Put it back there.....
In addition to the fine replies above, perhaps they should ALSO shoulder the burden because they took HUGE subsidies from the government to create the pipes they're now trying to monopolize...
Also, WHAT burden? Is it a burden to NOT fuck up the pipes?
1. uses for the internet change. That's not my problem...
2. I already paid for them to move bits. It shouldn't matter where they come from.
3. That's not my problem. See number two.
4. That's not my problem. See number two.
5. No they don't. You made that up.
6. That's also not my problem. See number 2. AGAIN.
Start talking about the Koran or explosions while you're in an airplane.... It may not be ILLEGAL per se, but they'll still ground the plane and give you a cavity search..... America is NOT the land of the free, no matter how many times you repeat it to yourself.
The idea of a large vs. small government goes all the way back to Hamilton and Jefferson. Don't try to tell us it's some newfangled idea that's overthrowing the Will Of The Founders. The Founders argued about this stuff all the time.
Further, don't try to make washington out to be Progressives. Washington's not progressive at all. Progressives would actually use the power of government to help people. FDR was a freak'in progressive. I can count real progressives in Washington on one hand.... And I'd have to look up a few names...
Go look at the deficits... As far as I can tell, under republican presidents we spend LOTS of money, and under democrat presidents we reign it in. Don't forget that under clinton we actually had a surplus. Look at the deficits under Obama. Look a the data, not what the TV is telling you...
I'm sick of this thread, and I'm sick of all of you. You're all petulant children throwing tantrums. These comments aren't even worth reading. They're all just more of the same bashing without any substance or actual discussion.
This is INTERESTING and you're all too busy throwing out tropes that any honest actor would dismiss as ad hominem attacks to actually discuss this. Conservatives react slightly stronger to disgusting images. We know this of course. This has been theorized and shown before. Of course, a more liberal person will have different areas light up too.
This means there's a very real perception filter difference happening here, and perhaps we need to extend a little empathy across the quite imaginary isle and try to TALK to one another.
No. Liberals do not want to laze around and let the government do everything for them. No. Conservatives do not want perpetual war. No. Liberals do not want other people to pay for their stuff. No. Conservatives do not blame unions and immigrants for everything. You people should KNOW these simplistic tropes are full of it, and here they are flung around as if true.
I'm liberal. My best friend is conservative. When we listen to each other, really listen instead of hearing what the TV wants us to hear from each other, we can have very nice discussions about economics and the world. We both want bankers punished for what they did. We both want the economic system to be regulated. We both want clean air and water. We both want to get the !@#$ out of the middle east. We both want to live in a country that's fair and just. Our differences are far less than our similarities.
Bah. I'm ranting.... this is interesting science and all of you completely missed it in an attempt to sling shit all over. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
I have old Linksys wireless routers with DDWrt loaded out in the backyard. It's Oregon. It rains here... I used tupperware containers(or whatever fits from Home Depot), and a little hole for the power cord and some silicone calk in the hole. You can double enclose, and it'll run you maybe $10. :D
Which, I guess since you called me a "Moonbat American" (which I had to look up. TIL "Moonbat is a term used in United States politics as a pejorative political epithet referring to progressives or leftists." ) means you're probably a rightie (should have known from the spelling, my bad.) and I guess you probably DO think all the security theater and warrantless wiretapping is a good idea and it's caught loads of terrorists....
BTW, I kid. I AM a dirty liberal, but I have conservative friends. We all agree that no one sane wants all this stupidity we've gotten ourselves into. I'm giving Anonymous a hard time, and yes poking fun at conservatives for being dumb, which isn't fair or respectful no matter HOW funny or accurate those stereotypes are. Sorry y'all. One loony does not make a whole ideology. Respect to my Conservative Brothers and Sister. Don't let the Crazy people define you. Don't let the Crazy people define me either.
There are roughly 300million Americans. Are you saying only a third of the country is with you? Also, you ironically misspelled Dumbass. Also, I think you maaay have missed what I was saying.... I hope? Unless you're saying that all this security theater and warrantless wiretapping was a GOOD idea and it's caught loads of terrorists?