It's rather ironic that we're trying to get browsers to do what other application platforms have been able to do since the late 1970s. I sometimes wonder if the web browser, like the gopher client before it, should be dropped for something, well, a little less kludgy and arcane.
It is also ironic that these days the distributed capability of X Windows (-display host:server:screen) is very portable, efficient, universal, and ignored for a less universal solution, HTTP.
The fact is that even a $100 put towards a computer can be better put towards generic versions of prescription drugs. Clean water, food, medical care and education are more important than any internet connection, laptop, or cellular phone. Unfortunately, Slashdot folks don't get it.
I have been downmodded many times on this forum for saying as much. Nice to hear it from someone with experience.
Running "Hello world" on the console calls several different APIs, some in different languages based on the platform you're using.
What a silly fellow! Hello world in C to stdout (you mistakenly refer to it as a "console") is pretty butt simple in C. Even you should be able to understand it. The call graph is:
main() >puts() >>putc()
Nope, no "layers" here, one API. Ding!
Displaying "Hello, world" on a cross-platform framework for client browsers will also go through several initial application layers. These are just things you need to accept as a newbie programmer (which you clearly are).
And what would those be? Be careful, you won't find it in your "Java for Dummies" book. (Ouch, that must have hurt!)
This was a fascinating program. It would have been nice if the Stanford team divulged more of their ideas, what software languages and designs they used etc. It looked like they were doing a Bayesian classification on combined laser ranging and video on the terrain ahead. Doing that for 1 image is complicated enough. Doing 10+/sec is mindblowing. The control system moderated the vehicle's need to follow a prescribed path with how safe the path was. Amazing stuff, very elegant. Pretty much done with a stock Volkwagon SUV. Next time they should conduct this race without GPS. I have no doubt someone will figure it out.
I have worked in the regulated fields of avionics and medical devices. You would think that federal and state governments would have regulations governing exhaustive testing of electronic voting machines against requirements to avoid conflicts like this. What is a secretary of state's job but to prevent pissing matches like this? I don't blame Diebold for not wanting some 3rd party yahoo breaking seals on their machines. But they can't point to a documented, legitimate qualification process to allay their customer's valid concerns. This is lousy engineering of the kind that pervades traditional IT.
Hey, muslims may be seen as intollerant, but at least they don't go around killing people who convert from Islam to another religion. Now that would be intollerant!
Relativism doesn't cut it here. John Paul II and Benedict have been very concilliatory to Jews. Compare that to Islam! Islam's relationship with other faiths is absolutely abysmal.
Were that even a sane statement, then they would be the number one single biggest supporters of birth control education and availability. What's that they're the ones doing everything in their power to prevent basic simple facts from being taught?
Emboldened by their successful assault on the innocence of grade school children in the US through the guise of public education, the leftist smut merchants are now trowling their swill in a UN funded, worldwide pogrom with even more devastating negative consequences on world health.
These people are evil shitbags of the lowest degree who prey on the innocent and the ignorant.
I agree. I am a little surprised the applet hasn't come back into style. It certainly provides a rich interface and is nowhere near as contorted as some of these 'frameworks'. It would have been nice if several languages could have supported Java bytecode output. Kawa scheme does. I don't know of any others. Another thing I have been puzzled about is why Sun never freed the Hotjava browser. In the old days, I used to like it. It certainly ran applets cleanly.
I mean, besides this administration's devotion to policies that don't work [avert.org].
Devotion to a policy of encouraging promiscuity among a population to whom such behavior is suicide is better? Yikes!
You can't deal with the consequences? Don't have sex.
If your friggin' life is at stake? Yes, that is what we suggest! If you are an overweight man and want to avoid a heart attack, stop eating. If you live in an area ablaze with sexually transmitted desease, practice monogamy or abstainance.
I'm "wacky."
You are probably well meaning, but the cold logic of the situation eludes you and your ilk.
This posting only serves to remind me what an API junkyard web programming has become. Let's see, we need server side Ruby to transmit and execute Javascript that manipulates a DOM to emit HTMP, gracefully degrading features for anachronistic browers. Zowie!
Why? Because they want to scare people into not having sex.
No, their motive is to try to reduce the larger social problem of out of wedlock births. Children who grow up in single parent homes are at a great disadvantage in any society. You are the one spreading fear by suggesting a special interest group conspiracy is keeping an effective vaccine from being approved. Do you think they would want to deprive a vaccine from the millions infected with HIV in Africa? Pretty wacky.
It sounds as if NASA has been having some success at 'pushing back' against the Bush administration's reluctance to fund Science.
Under the Bush administration planetary science has undergone a golden age. To say they are anti-science is foolish. The NASA budget is a zero sum game. Fully funding the Dawn mission will take away from other more important uses of the money, like CEV development. My guess is the Dawn cancellation was a trial balloon floated by Mr. Griffin in order to obtain some budget relief. This situation is not unlike the Hubble servicing mission cancellation and reinstatement.
Many elements of *nix systems remained surprisingly unchanged in the last 25 years:/etc/passwd, init scripts, bourne shell, inetd,.... These are inspired for their utility, simplicity, and cleanliness. They endure. You cannot put Sendmail into this group. Why? The input format may be the worst way to configure a program yet devised. It is closely followed in wretchedness by lpd and/etc/printcap. You should not try to obscure these important facts with lame relativism. I am giddy that I don't have to look at them anymore on my machine.
As any country who has seen a US supercarrier appear off their coast, it is the ultimate projection of force. Like nuclear weapons everyone wants one. The US Navy is not standing pat. With global strategic threats are increasing from Russia and China, the CVN-21 should up the ante considerably.
True. I would think that they could debug guidance software pretty well seperate from the integrated rocket unless the sensor inputs were screwed up. I don't know how the first stage is guided, whether it uses gimbal mounted engines or vernier thrusters. Thrusters would be simpler, but I didn't see them. As for a structural problem, remember that the previous launch was scrubbed because of a tank overpressure. Who knows if it was really fixed.
A further look at the imagery seen from the onboard camera mounted to the Falcon 1 shows a noticeable change in the color and shape of the flame coming from the Merlin first stage main engine as the vehicle seemed to roll. It was at that point the webcast provided to reporters covering the launch immediately stopped. Repeated efforts to reconnect to the feed were unsuccessful.
Seems to be a problem with the engine, a leak, or pump failure. A turbopump that has seized could induce a sharp roll.
Ah, yes, nothing like some good old xenophobia, mixed with a nice measure of nationalism. You just can't trust those foreigners - many don't even speak English, or have funny skin colours, or similar things. The government is really just protecting you from these traitors, citizen.
An equally predictable reflex reaction of a liberal recklessly discounting legitimate threats and cheering for the next terror attack
nonzero rest mass for photons, neutrinos and other things previously considered massless are being explored in theory and experiment. Relativistic energy also is a gravitational charge source.
Non-zero rest mass for neutrinos is a near certainty. Non-zero rest mass for the photon is not considered a serious possiblity. I do not know the gravitational effects of moving a moving mass compared to one at relative rest. If gravity inceased with speed then a fast enough moving object would inevitably collapse to a black hole as it approached the speed of light, no matter the mass.
From you [sic] reply you clearly have a bias against the ESA, which appears to be derived from their view on global warming.
Far from it. The Mars Express is a fine mission. They do good work and are getting better all the time. ESA is no worse than NASA when it comes to global warming. Both rely on spreading hysteria for funding.
You also don't mention that much of the research done by space agencies, including the ESA, is based on looking out at space. Cosmic background radiation, supernovas, etc... and observations of these phenomena have provided essential data for use in theoretical physics.
I know enough not to dismiss the factual dark matter/enery observations made in the last 10 years. These results are startling and *real*. It is the cranks trying to ride the coattails of the results that annoy me.
I very much doubt that theoretical physicists would be as dismissive as you based on the source.
I don't see any of them rushing to your defense.
PS. Anomalous is spelled with an "a", dimwit.
Since you dropped your drawers on every other point, I'll let you have the spelling flame to save face.
What I imply is that ESA should stick to what it knows. Launching rockets, onducting planetary and earth observation missions, even spreading global warming hysteria. Grand Unified Field Theory research is already in much more capable hands. Dimwit.
What they have linked in this experiment is the very large photon mass
Holy smokes! Photons travel at the speed of light. By definition they *must* be massless. Are you refering to momentum? As for the rest of your post, I find intelligent design reasoning to be more compelling.
but a "gravitomagnetic one", which is a field that moving objects with "gravitational charge" (i.e., anything that produces gravitational force) make. it acts to repel or attract other gravitational charges.
Gravitational charge is called "mass". The force carrier (analog to the photon in EM) is the Higgs boson. No one yet has linked EM, or the nuclear forces to gravitation. Smart theorists like Ed Witten are trying like heck through M Theory. It is very unlikely that the solution to the problem would come from ESA. More likely from CERN or one of the large universities. This article is complete junk. You posting is completely incoherent.
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It's rather ironic that we're trying to get browsers to do what other application platforms have been able to do since the late 1970s. I sometimes wonder if the web browser, like the gopher client before it, should be dropped for something, well, a little less kludgy and arcane.
It is also ironic that these days the distributed capability of X Windows (-display host:server:screen) is very portable, efficient, universal, and ignored for a less universal solution, HTTP.
The fact is that even a $100 put towards a computer can be better put towards generic versions of prescription drugs. Clean water, food, medical care and education are more important than any internet connection, laptop, or cellular phone. Unfortunately, Slashdot folks don't get it.
I have been downmodded many times on this forum for saying as much. Nice to hear it from someone with experience.
Running "Hello world" on the console calls several different APIs, some in different languages based on the platform you're using.
What a silly fellow! Hello world in C to stdout (you mistakenly refer to it as a "console") is pretty butt simple in C. Even you should be able to understand it. The call graph is:
Nope, no "layers" here, one API. Ding!
Displaying "Hello, world" on a cross-platform framework for client browsers will also go through several initial application layers. These are just things you need to accept as a newbie programmer (which you clearly are).
And what would those be? Be careful, you won't find it in your "Java for Dummies" book. (Ouch, that must have hurt!)
This was a fascinating program. It would have been nice if the Stanford team divulged more of their ideas, what software languages and designs they used etc. It looked like they were doing a Bayesian classification on combined laser ranging and video on the terrain ahead. Doing that for 1 image is complicated enough. Doing 10+/sec is mindblowing. The control system moderated the vehicle's need to follow a prescribed path with how safe the path was. Amazing stuff, very elegant. Pretty much done with a stock Volkwagon SUV. Next time they should conduct this race without GPS. I have no doubt someone will figure it out.
I have worked in the regulated fields of avionics and medical devices. You would think that federal and state governments would have regulations governing exhaustive testing of electronic voting machines against requirements to avoid conflicts like this. What is a secretary of state's job but to prevent pissing matches like this? I don't blame Diebold for not wanting some 3rd party yahoo breaking seals on their machines. But they can't point to a documented, legitimate qualification process to allay their customer's valid concerns. This is lousy engineering of the kind that pervades traditional IT.
Hey, muslims may be seen as intollerant, but at least they don't go around killing people who convert from Islam to another religion. Now that would be intollerant!
Well, at least when no one is looking.
Relativism doesn't cut it here. John Paul II and Benedict have been very concilliatory to Jews. Compare that to Islam! Islam's relationship with other faiths is absolutely abysmal.
Aaaaaand how is that different from desktop development? Actually, how is that different from any other development?
Maybe it is the switch between 3 languages to run 'Hello World'. Seems a tad overwrought. But I am wasting my time. Get back to your Visual Basic.
Were that even a sane statement, then they would be the number one single biggest supporters of birth control education and availability. What's that they're the ones doing everything in their power to prevent basic simple facts from being taught?
Emboldened by their successful assault on the innocence of grade school children in the US through the guise of public education, the leftist smut merchants are now trowling their swill in a UN funded, worldwide pogrom with even more devastating negative consequences on world health.
These people are evil shitbags of the lowest degree who prey on the innocent and the ignorant.
One of many foolish assertions.
I agree. I am a little surprised the applet hasn't come back into style. It certainly provides a rich interface and is nowhere near as contorted as some of these 'frameworks'. It would have been nice if several languages could have supported Java bytecode output. Kawa scheme does. I don't know of any others. Another thing I have been puzzled about is why Sun never freed the Hotjava browser. In the old days, I used to like it. It certainly ran applets cleanly.
I mean, besides this administration's devotion to policies that don't work [avert.org].
Devotion to a policy of encouraging promiscuity among a population to whom such behavior is suicide is better? Yikes!
You can't deal with the consequences? Don't have sex.
If your friggin' life is at stake? Yes, that is what we suggest! If you are an overweight man and want to avoid a heart attack, stop eating. If you live in an area ablaze with sexually transmitted desease, practice monogamy or abstainance.
I'm "wacky."
You are probably well meaning, but the cold logic of the situation eludes you and your ilk.
This posting only serves to remind me what an API junkyard web programming has become. Let's see, we need server side Ruby to transmit and execute Javascript that manipulates a DOM to emit HTMP, gracefully degrading features for anachronistic browers. Zowie!
Why? Because they want to scare people into not having sex.
No, their motive is to try to reduce the larger social problem of out of wedlock births. Children who grow up in single parent homes are at a great disadvantage in any society. You are the one spreading fear by suggesting a special interest group conspiracy is keeping an effective vaccine from being approved. Do you think they would want to deprive a vaccine from the millions infected with HIV in Africa? Pretty wacky.
It sounds as if NASA has been having some success at 'pushing back' against the Bush administration's reluctance to fund Science.
Under the Bush administration planetary science has undergone a golden age. To say they are anti-science is foolish. The NASA budget is a zero sum game. Fully funding the Dawn mission will take away from other more important uses of the money, like CEV development. My guess is the Dawn cancellation was a trial balloon floated by Mr. Griffin in order to obtain some budget relief. This situation is not unlike the Hubble servicing mission cancellation and reinstatement.
Many elements of *nix systems remained surprisingly unchanged in the last 25 years: /etc/passwd, init scripts, bourne shell, inetd, .... These are inspired for their utility, simplicity, and cleanliness. They endure. You cannot put Sendmail into this group. Why? The input format may be the worst way to configure a program yet devised. It is closely followed in wretchedness by lpd and /etc/printcap. You should not try to obscure these important facts with lame relativism. I am giddy that I don't have to look at them anymore on my machine.
A shakedown doesn't really help anything if there is a deeper problem.
It seems to me the biggest problem is the lack of modular architecture, like OSX and the *nix's. What does Chief Architect Gates say about the issue?
As any country who has seen a US supercarrier appear off their coast, it is the ultimate projection of force. Like nuclear weapons everyone wants one. The US Navy is not standing pat. With global strategic threats are increasing from Russia and China, the CVN-21 should up the ante considerably.
True. I would think that they could debug guidance software pretty well seperate from the integrated rocket unless the sensor inputs were screwed up. I don't know how the first stage is guided, whether it uses gimbal mounted engines or vernier thrusters. Thrusters would be simpler, but I didn't see them. As for a structural problem, remember that the previous launch was scrubbed because of a tank overpressure. Who knows if it was really fixed.
Spaceflight Now observed:
A further look at the imagery seen from the onboard camera mounted to the Falcon 1 shows a noticeable change in the color and shape of the flame coming from the Merlin first stage main engine as the vehicle seemed to roll. It was at that point the webcast provided to reporters covering the launch immediately stopped. Repeated efforts to reconnect to the feed were unsuccessful.
Seems to be a problem with the engine, a leak, or pump failure. A turbopump that has seized could induce a sharp roll.
Ah, yes, nothing like some good old xenophobia, mixed with a nice measure of nationalism. You just can't trust those foreigners - many don't even speak English, or have funny skin colours, or similar things. The government is really just protecting you from these traitors, citizen.
An equally predictable reflex reaction of a liberal recklessly discounting legitimate threats and cheering for the next terror attack
nonzero rest mass for photons, neutrinos and other things previously considered massless are being explored in theory and experiment. Relativistic energy also is a gravitational charge source.
Non-zero rest mass for neutrinos is a near certainty. Non-zero rest mass for the photon is not considered a serious possiblity. I do not know the gravitational effects of moving a moving mass compared to one at relative rest. If gravity inceased with speed then a fast enough moving object would inevitably collapse to a black hole as it approached the speed of light, no matter the mass.
From you [sic] reply you clearly have a bias against the ESA, which appears to be derived from their view on global warming.
Far from it. The Mars Express is a fine mission. They do good work and are getting better all the time. ESA is no worse than NASA when it comes to global warming. Both rely on spreading hysteria for funding.
You also don't mention that much of the research done by space agencies, including the ESA, is based on looking out at space. Cosmic background radiation, supernovas, etc... and observations of these phenomena have provided essential data for use in theoretical physics.
I know enough not to dismiss the factual dark matter/enery observations made in the last 10 years. These results are startling and *real*. It is the cranks trying to ride the coattails of the results that annoy me.
I very much doubt that theoretical physicists would be as dismissive as you based on the source.
I don't see any of them rushing to your defense.
PS. Anomalous is spelled with an "a", dimwit.
Since you dropped your drawers on every other point, I'll let you have the spelling flame to save face.
What I imply is that ESA should stick to what it knows. Launching rockets, onducting planetary and earth observation missions, even spreading global warming hysteria. Grand Unified Field Theory research is already in much more capable hands. Dimwit.
sure, mass is one form of gravitational charge
And others are?
What they have linked in this experiment is the very large photon mass
Holy smokes! Photons travel at the speed of light. By definition they *must* be massless. Are you refering to momentum? As for the rest of your post, I find intelligent design reasoning to be more compelling.
but a "gravitomagnetic one", which is a field that moving objects with "gravitational charge" (i.e., anything that produces gravitational force) make. it acts to repel or attract other gravitational charges.
Gravitational charge is called "mass". The force carrier (analog to the photon in EM) is the Higgs boson. No one yet has linked EM, or the nuclear forces to gravitation. Smart theorists like Ed Witten are trying like heck through M Theory. It is very unlikely that the solution to the problem would come from ESA. More likely from CERN or one of the large universities. This article is complete junk. You posting is completely incoherent.