why exactly is his car different from a phone, or a laptop?
Are you seriously on slashdot posting that stupid of a question? Quantity might have something to do with it.
Faculty is supposed to be there. Parents are not authorized to roam around randomly at any school in the nation without prior authorization from the office.
And when he was told multiple times to stop... but kept doing it... oh, thats okay right? Because its on a building paid for by public funds, anyone can use that power.
Shit, why do I even pay my own electric bill. I'm right next door to a school, a few hundred feet of good quality wire and I can just use all the free public electricity I want, right? I mean thats what you're saying, right? Its perfectly acceptable for all of us to hook up to those outlets and then bitch when they blow and demand better service... right?
Schools are not 'public' buildings, sorry to burst your ignorance bubble. They are for students registered in them to be at certain times of the day. Students can not freely roam schools whenever they want.
PARENTS MUST VISIT THE OFFICE AND REGISTER OR BE GIVEN EXPLICITLY PERMISSION IN ADVANCE IN EVERY SCHOOL IN THE NATION FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. It has been this way for years.
You are not allowed to take the computers that are in the building... paid for by public funds. You are not allowed to walk into the cafeteria at 1am and make yourself a snack. You are not allow to take a fucking desk because you paid your taxes.
The problem is your stupid thought that these are public buildings that anyone can do anything they want with. Thats as retarded as saying that its okay for me to take every book in a library and keep it at my house forever since I paid my taxes and its public property.
You fucks with your 'I'm entitled to everything' mentality need to get a freaking clue.
The drinking fountain IS NOT THERE FOR PUBLIC USE. Its there for STUDENT USE. You're just ignorant of reality and assume that you too are entitled to use it. You're wrong.
There is no problem with clarity, you're just an idiot who hasn't learned that you're not entitled to take whatever you want.
Notice that in this case the school did not press charges, implying that the school didn't mind the use, or at least judged it to be harmless enough.
... So, you didn't read any of the actual article at all did you... you know... the part where the cop ASKED THE SCHOOL IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING AND ONLY AFTER THAT DID THEY ARREST THIS JACKASS?
Cops generally can go after crime regardless of what jurisdiction it is in. Contrary to the silly movies you think are real, there is none of this shit about not being able to cross state lines, counties or cities. They in fact do it rather regularly between GA and SC.
They may have a more difficult time handling the case if questions arise, but you're an idiot if you think a cop needs permission to do something in some parking lot in the town he's employed by. It doesn't work that way.
Any cop in GA can operate ANYWHERE in GA. An atlanta cop can drag your ass to jail in columbus if he wants to.
If the EV owner has a child at the school, then he might very well have reasonable belief that he could use the electricity since he's technically paying for it.
EVERYONE pays for schools, not just parents. Thats why we can afford to send our kids to school because society as a whole pays for the service. So no, this jackass had no more right to steal electricity from the school than I do have the right to steal food from the cafeteria or footballs from the gym.
Its almost as if you read the article that talks about the school having an issue with this particular person multiple times before calling the cops...
There already are laws covering exact this. We have inspections that already monitor our cars for acceptable emissions levels. The person you're responding to is just a selfish douche that thinks its okay for him to do whatever he wants because he feels entitled to it.
You can not put a 40 amp breaker on a line with a 10 amp outlet. It is illegal and dangerous. Normal outlets, are 10 amp outlets. $100 says you've never used an outlet capable of carrying 40 amps other than your washer/drawer/stove. My shitty 30 year old fridge is a 30amp. I doubt you could point one out in a line up without me telling you first.
Sure, you can physically do it, if your a moron too stupid to be playing around in the electrical box in the first place. You'll probably be electrocuted due to your own stupidity pretty quickly with that kind of ignorance.
A 10 amp breaker will easily blow at 8 if its got any age on it, they are designed to failSAFE not carry more than intended. Yes, they may be slow acting, but you are pushing a 10 amp breaker if you put a continuous 8amp draw on it. Its perfectly within spec, but safety margins are going to cause it to blow sooner rather than later.
Outlets have to match breakers.
A 50, 30, 20 and 10 amp outlet ALL look different. Only the a plug designed for a 10 amp outlet can be plugged into a 20 amp outlet, all others are intentionally incompatible with each other. You can not plug a 40 amp plug into a 30 amp outlet, or a 30 amp plug into 20 or 10 amp outlet. You can't even plug a 20 amp plug into a 10 amp outlet. They are designed to keep morons like you from burning your houses down because you're dumb ass does something like swap out a breaker. With a 40 amp breaker, you would be using a 50 amp outlet as there isn't a 40 amp outlet.
No it doesn't. You utterly fail to understand what the octane rating means. The engine in your saturn would in no way benefit from the higher octane rating. It could in fact run without noticing a problem with a significantly lower octane rating. Octane ratings matter in high compression engines or turbo/supercharged engines, not in econobox.
A better example would be the 9/11 attacks on NYC that took out large swaths of Internet and cellular service... yet POTS still worked, occasionally in an island, but it worked none the less.
The Internet was designed to work in unreliable conditions, which coincidently is how it turns out working.
The POTS was regulated into having a certain level of reliability. It is considered by the US government as critical infrastructure, and has legally required SLAs attached to it. This is why a REAL T1 (not some other circuit with 1.5Mbs of data), carrying 24 DS0 channels still costs $1500/month, but you can get 10Mbs for a couple hundred. The T1 can carry voice, so its regulated as such, and thats why you'll have the AT&T guy at 1am in your data center trying to resolve issue with the circuit without sen asking them to. The phone company sees that it works or they get the shit fined out of them.
This happened because it turned out that once everyone got phones, we realized how awesome they were in emergency situations and how many resources could be saved thanks to being able to communicate with anyone in the country quickly and reliably.
I'm fine with dumping POTS, but I want the Internet to have that same sort of regulation behind it to ensure that it works far far better than it does now.
We also need to switch to PoE if we're going to dump POTS and supply power from the CO so at least ONE device in the home can stay powered on from offsite power if the mains fail.
This. Did we learn nothing from IE6 and the ActiveX legacy?
Apparently you did not. You still seem to think ActiveX is magically evil when you couldn't be any further from the truth. ActiveX is nothing more than a plugin system. A plugin system that has provisions built in from the start to prevent all the security issues that came with IE... but between stupid developers who marked any ActiveX they made as 'safe for remove scripting', which then created all sorts of exploits. Had they simply left the flag unset, most of IEs issues wouldn't have existed.
But the real flaw in the system was IE, which was initially configured to install ActiveX components from anyone without prompting.
ActiveX is the exact same thing as Mozilla/Firefox extensions made with DLLs, you know, the good ones... They work EXACTLY THE SAME as ActiveX... they just use a different name for the same tech, CORBA instead of DCOM. Functionally, they are identical.
and then you can reuse the folder locating code across multiple applications.
And thats what the registry does. You just talk to it, and the system stores the data where it wants, even going so far as to sync it between multiple machines automatically.
I don't see what's so hard about deciding whether a particular preference goes in your application's SQLite file for local preferences or its SQLite file for roaming preferences.
So you want to use a 3rd party database not intended for storing configuration information instead of the OS provided database designed to store configuration information with a far simpler API to use than a bunch of SQL queries? Thats pretty dumb.
You seem to want to reinvent the wheel because you're too ignorant to use the existing solution, or just too much of a fanboy to see the forest for the trees.
1. No it doesn't. It says that users of binaries with gpl code in them have a right to the source upon request. The vendor has the right to ask a small distribution fee for this.
Effectively making it impossible to actually sell GPL'd software.
Sure, technically you can, but no one is going to buy it cause some other dude will buy one copy and then distribute it to everyone else.
You do yourself no favors and win over no hearts by trying to play that card. Everyone knows its bullshit, no matter how loud RMS screams.
2. Well, yes, it is viral. So are many closed source licenses.
I've never in my life ran into a license that required me to license my software under the same license. I've never heard of anything like that, unless you mean that it doesn't let me give out their code with mine since it isn't open source? No, I doubt that, you're just making up stupid shit.
3. No, it doesn't. You can GPL software and charge money for access.. What you can't do is limit what the user does with it afterwards other than demand he respect the GPL (thus you get access to your user's changes).
And again, from a practical perspective, theres no way you can charge shit. Someone else will pay once and redistribute your crap for less or free. Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true
The rest of your statement is based on your broken presuppositions.
As opposed to yours, which is entirely based on broken presuppositions.
An innovation is something new. Something revolutionary that changes everything. The transistor was an innovation. Rounded corners and ultra-thin device form factors are not.
The problem is that you're stuck on the rounded corners and just being to ignorant to see the innovation. Your personal bias abounds.
It wasn't that any one thing was 'new' it was that they made something that wasn't a piece of shit. They made it work. They made it work WELL. And then they made AT&T give unlimited data for $40/month rather than $30 per kilobyte they were doing previously. And then they took control of all the crapware on phones out of the phone companies hands...
Basically Apple came alone and fixed all the shitty parts of using a smart phone, and then all of the sudden the rest of the world looked like douche bags. The previous industry dominator is going out of business in 6 years because of their simple changes. Everyone else had to copy them, its 6 years later, and Android still suffers from stupid shit that plagued phones before the iPhone.
They did like the BASF tagline. We don't make the things you use, we make the things you use BETTER.
Says the guy who knows absolutely not a god damn thing about software development.
You can't find a project on the planet where replacing the commercial software with OSS from scratch is cheaper. You might think you've replaced the product, but thats just pure ignorance due to your lack of understanding of what experience and age does to a development team.
And the government doing it? Hahahaha you're a fucking moron.
$50 million could have paid for a whole lot of private sector open source software development.
Unlikely that it would have bought an equally useful product.
$50 million isn't that many employees really, well less than 500. Those 500 people are not going to create software of the same level of quality (assuming the commercial software isn't complete shit) with the same level of experience thrown in as the company who's been doing it for years.
There is FAR more to writing software than just lines of code, but unfortunately only a few projects in the OSS world actually understand that, and pretty much all of you OSS fanboys totally fail to understand it.
If there was an existing OSS project that filled the roles, didn't suck, and had been around for the past 10 years with MAJOR deployments... then the $50mil might have been better spent spending on OSS... MAYBE, if you could find someone to manage the project properly. But since there is nothing out there that comes anywhere near matching this functionality, starting from scratch with OSS is a fucking stupid idea unless your sole goal is to get rid of the commercial software.
The governments job is not to promote open source, its to use my money efficiently. Wasting it starting a brand new OSS project that would almost certainly suck since its a brand new product with no experience would be exactly the opposite of what I want them to do.
Use OSS when it makes sense, don't try to shoe horn it into everything because you have this retarded hippie idea that its the solution to all the worlds problems.
That wouldn't be funny if you understood how the America government works. Sadely, you have this retarded idea that the president effects the things in that article when in fact the president has no control over those things.
This sort of ignorance is why American presidents suck ass, the voting public are fucking morons too damn lazy to know that CONGRESS MAKES THE FUCKING DECISIONS.
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We do know. Its in the article. He was told multiple times he wasn't allowed to do that.
There is no 'may' to it, you're just making shit up because you're too lazy to find out what actually happened.
The 'facts we don't know' are in the 'article you didn't bother to read'
Those people aren't homeless, begging is their job. $50 says they go home to a nicer house than you do.
why exactly is his car different from a phone, or a laptop?
Are you seriously on slashdot posting that stupid of a question? Quantity might have something to do with it.
Faculty is supposed to be there. Parents are not authorized to roam around randomly at any school in the nation without prior authorization from the office.
And when he was told multiple times to stop ... but kept doing it ... oh, thats okay right? Because its on a building paid for by public funds, anyone can use that power.
Shit, why do I even pay my own electric bill. I'm right next door to a school, a few hundred feet of good quality wire and I can just use all the free public electricity I want, right? I mean thats what you're saying, right? Its perfectly acceptable for all of us to hook up to those outlets and then bitch when they blow and demand better service ... right?
God you're a moron.
Schools are not 'public' buildings, sorry to burst your ignorance bubble. They are for students registered in them to be at certain times of the day. Students can not freely roam schools whenever they want.
PARENTS MUST VISIT THE OFFICE AND REGISTER OR BE GIVEN EXPLICITLY PERMISSION IN ADVANCE IN EVERY SCHOOL IN THE NATION FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. It has been this way for years.
You are not allowed to take the computers that are in the building ... paid for by public funds. You are not allowed to walk into the cafeteria at 1am and make yourself a snack. You are not allow to take a fucking desk because you paid your taxes.
The problem is your stupid thought that these are public buildings that anyone can do anything they want with. Thats as retarded as saying that its okay for me to take every book in a library and keep it at my house forever since I paid my taxes and its public property.
You fucks with your 'I'm entitled to everything' mentality need to get a freaking clue.
The drinking fountain IS NOT THERE FOR PUBLIC USE. Its there for STUDENT USE. You're just ignorant of reality and assume that you too are entitled to use it. You're wrong.
There is no problem with clarity, you're just an idiot who hasn't learned that you're not entitled to take whatever you want.
God, how much of a douche are you trying to turn this into a fucking GPL issue?
Notice that in this case the school did not press charges, implying that the school didn't mind the use, or at least judged it to be harmless enough.
... So, you didn't read any of the actual article at all did you ... you know ... the part where the cop ASKED THE SCHOOL IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING AND ONLY AFTER THAT DID THEY ARREST THIS JACKASS?
But hey, don't let facts get in the way.
You guys and your jurisdiction ignorance.
Cops generally can go after crime regardless of what jurisdiction it is in. Contrary to the silly movies you think are real, there is none of this shit about not being able to cross state lines, counties or cities. They in fact do it rather regularly between GA and SC.
They may have a more difficult time handling the case if questions arise, but you're an idiot if you think a cop needs permission to do something in some parking lot in the town he's employed by. It doesn't work that way.
Any cop in GA can operate ANYWHERE in GA. An atlanta cop can drag your ass to jail in columbus if he wants to.
You really need to lay off the ignorance and tv.
If the EV owner has a child at the school, then he might very well have reasonable belief that he could use the electricity since he's technically paying for it.
EVERYONE pays for schools, not just parents. Thats why we can afford to send our kids to school because society as a whole pays for the service. So no, this jackass had no more right to steal electricity from the school than I do have the right to steal food from the cafeteria or footballs from the gym.
Unless someone who works for the school
Its almost as if you read the article that talks about the school having an issue with this particular person multiple times before calling the cops ...
Also, how did the cop know something was being stolen? Did he go to the school and ask them if it was authorized?
No, moron, the school called the cop. He didn't need to 'ask' the school, THEY CALLED HIM.
They warned this prick multiple times not to charge his car from the outlet.
The battery is never 'full' the car is constantly drawing current and will constantly draw from an outlet just to keep its monitoring equipment on.
Try again.
The one where they school officials ... AND THE COP ... had given him multiple warnings before he was arrested not to do it.
Do you just go take food out of the cafeteria too? What fucking kind of retarded logic makes you think its okay to steal somethings but not others?
There already are laws covering exact this. We have inspections that already monitor our cars for acceptable emissions levels. The person you're responding to is just a selfish douche that thinks its okay for him to do whatever he wants because he feels entitled to it.
Wrong in every possible way.
You can not put a 40 amp breaker on a line with a 10 amp outlet. It is illegal and dangerous. Normal outlets, are 10 amp outlets. $100 says you've never used an outlet capable of carrying 40 amps other than your washer/drawer/stove. My shitty 30 year old fridge is a 30amp. I doubt you could point one out in a line up without me telling you first.
Sure, you can physically do it, if your a moron too stupid to be playing around in the electrical box in the first place. You'll probably be electrocuted due to your own stupidity pretty quickly with that kind of ignorance.
A 10 amp breaker will easily blow at 8 if its got any age on it, they are designed to failSAFE not carry more than intended. Yes, they may be slow acting, but you are pushing a 10 amp breaker if you put a continuous 8amp draw on it. Its perfectly within spec, but safety margins are going to cause it to blow sooner rather than later.
Outlets have to match breakers.
A 50, 30, 20 and 10 amp outlet ALL look different. Only the a plug designed for a 10 amp outlet can be plugged into a 20 amp outlet, all others are intentionally incompatible with each other. You can not plug a 40 amp plug into a 30 amp outlet, or a 30 amp plug into 20 or 10 amp outlet. You can't even plug a 20 amp plug into a 10 amp outlet. They are designed to keep morons like you from burning your houses down because you're dumb ass does something like swap out a breaker. With a 40 amp breaker, you would be using a 50 amp outlet as there isn't a 40 amp outlet.
50 amp outlet - http://www.mscdirect.com/product/74366394?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=15557577904&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0%7Cdc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c
30 amp outlet - http://www.mscdirect.com/product/74366410?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=15557577904&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0%7Cdc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c
20 amp outlet - http://www.mscdirect.com/product/89534770?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=15557577904&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0%7Cdc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c
10 amp outlet - http://www.mscdirect.com/product/89534796?src=pla&008=-99&007=Search&pcrid=15557577904&006=15557577904&005=21882504424&004=4409695744&002=2167139&mkwid=sJXegN7a0%7Cdc&cid=PLA-Google-PLA+-+Test_sJXegN7a0_PLA__15557577904_c_S&026=-99&025=c
No it doesn't. You utterly fail to understand what the octane rating means. The engine in your saturn would in no way benefit from the higher octane rating. It could in fact run without noticing a problem with a significantly lower octane rating. Octane ratings matter in high compression engines or turbo/supercharged engines, not in econobox.
I think that would be an example of security like a sieve actually. Its an exploit, but it was there by design.
It also means that at least 1/3rd of the population is some kind of royalty, possibly 2/3rds or all of them!
A better example would be the 9/11 attacks on NYC that took out large swaths of Internet and cellular service ... yet POTS still worked, occasionally in an island, but it worked none the less.
The Internet was designed to work in unreliable conditions, which coincidently is how it turns out working.
The POTS was regulated into having a certain level of reliability. It is considered by the US government as critical infrastructure, and has legally required SLAs attached to it. This is why a REAL T1 (not some other circuit with 1.5Mbs of data), carrying 24 DS0 channels still costs $1500/month, but you can get 10Mbs for a couple hundred. The T1 can carry voice, so its regulated as such, and thats why you'll have the AT&T guy at 1am in your data center trying to resolve issue with the circuit without sen asking them to. The phone company sees that it works or they get the shit fined out of them.
This happened because it turned out that once everyone got phones, we realized how awesome they were in emergency situations and how many resources could be saved thanks to being able to communicate with anyone in the country quickly and reliably.
I'm fine with dumping POTS, but I want the Internet to have that same sort of regulation behind it to ensure that it works far far better than it does now.
We also need to switch to PoE if we're going to dump POTS and supply power from the CO so at least ONE device in the home can stay powered on from offsite power if the mains fail.
This. Did we learn nothing from IE6 and the ActiveX legacy?
Apparently you did not. You still seem to think ActiveX is magically evil when you couldn't be any further from the truth. ActiveX is nothing more than a plugin system. A plugin system that has provisions built in from the start to prevent all the security issues that came with IE ... but between stupid developers who marked any ActiveX they made as 'safe for remove scripting', which then created all sorts of exploits. Had they simply left the flag unset, most of IEs issues wouldn't have existed.
But the real flaw in the system was IE, which was initially configured to install ActiveX components from anyone without prompting.
ActiveX is the exact same thing as Mozilla/Firefox extensions made with DLLs, you know, the good ones ... They work EXACTLY THE SAME as ActiveX ... they just use a different name for the same tech, CORBA instead of DCOM. Functionally, they are identical.
and then you can reuse the folder locating code across multiple applications.
And thats what the registry does. You just talk to it, and the system stores the data where it wants, even going so far as to sync it between multiple machines automatically.
I don't see what's so hard about deciding whether a particular preference goes in your application's SQLite file for local preferences or its SQLite file for roaming preferences.
So you want to use a 3rd party database not intended for storing configuration information instead of the OS provided database designed to store configuration information with a far simpler API to use than a bunch of SQL queries? Thats pretty dumb.
You seem to want to reinvent the wheel because you're too ignorant to use the existing solution, or just too much of a fanboy to see the forest for the trees.
1. No it doesn't. It says that users of binaries with gpl code in them have a right to the source upon request. The vendor has the right to ask a small distribution fee for this.
Effectively making it impossible to actually sell GPL'd software.
Sure, technically you can, but no one is going to buy it cause some other dude will buy one copy and then distribute it to everyone else.
You do yourself no favors and win over no hearts by trying to play that card. Everyone knows its bullshit, no matter how loud RMS screams.
2. Well, yes, it is viral. So are many closed source licenses.
I've never in my life ran into a license that required me to license my software under the same license. I've never heard of anything like that, unless you mean that it doesn't let me give out their code with mine since it isn't open source? No, I doubt that, you're just making up stupid shit.
3. No, it doesn't. You can GPL software and charge money for access.. What you can't do is limit what the user does with it afterwards other than demand he respect the GPL (thus you get access to your user's changes).
And again, from a practical perspective, theres no way you can charge shit. Someone else will pay once and redistribute your crap for less or free. Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true
The rest of your statement is based on your broken presuppositions.
As opposed to yours, which is entirely based on broken presuppositions.
An innovation is something new. Something revolutionary that changes everything.
The transistor was an innovation. Rounded corners and ultra-thin device form factors are not.
The problem is that you're stuck on the rounded corners and just being to ignorant to see the innovation. Your personal bias abounds.
It wasn't that any one thing was 'new' it was that they made something that wasn't a piece of shit. They made it work. They made it work WELL. And then they made AT&T give unlimited data for $40/month rather than $30 per kilobyte they were doing previously. And then they took control of all the crapware on phones out of the phone companies hands ...
Basically Apple came alone and fixed all the shitty parts of using a smart phone, and then all of the sudden the rest of the world looked like douche bags. The previous industry dominator is going out of business in 6 years because of their simple changes. Everyone else had to copy them, its 6 years later, and Android still suffers from stupid shit that plagued phones before the iPhone.
They did like the BASF tagline. We don't make the things you use, we make the things you use BETTER.
Says the guy who knows absolutely not a god damn thing about software development.
You can't find a project on the planet where replacing the commercial software with OSS from scratch is cheaper. You might think you've replaced the product, but thats just pure ignorance due to your lack of understanding of what experience and age does to a development team.
And the government doing it? Hahahaha you're a fucking moron.
$50 million could have paid for a whole lot of private sector open source software development.
Unlikely that it would have bought an equally useful product.
$50 million isn't that many employees really, well less than 500. Those 500 people are not going to create software of the same level of quality (assuming the commercial software isn't complete shit) with the same level of experience thrown in as the company who's been doing it for years.
There is FAR more to writing software than just lines of code, but unfortunately only a few projects in the OSS world actually understand that, and pretty much all of you OSS fanboys totally fail to understand it.
If there was an existing OSS project that filled the roles, didn't suck, and had been around for the past 10 years with MAJOR deployments ... then the $50mil might have been better spent spending on OSS ... MAYBE, if you could find someone to manage the project properly. But since there is nothing out there that comes anywhere near matching this functionality, starting from scratch with OSS is a fucking stupid idea unless your sole goal is to get rid of the commercial software.
The governments job is not to promote open source, its to use my money efficiently. Wasting it starting a brand new OSS project that would almost certainly suck since its a brand new product with no experience would be exactly the opposite of what I want them to do.
Use OSS when it makes sense, don't try to shoe horn it into everything because you have this retarded hippie idea that its the solution to all the worlds problems.
That wouldn't be funny if you understood how the America government works. Sadely, you have this retarded idea that the president effects the things in that article when in fact the president has no control over those things.
This sort of ignorance is why American presidents suck ass, the voting public are fucking morons too damn lazy to know that CONGRESS MAKES THE FUCKING DECISIONS.