No where is perfect but Canada's medical system is far from the worst if I understand anything about it.
Why are you talking about a medical system that isn't your own?
Its awesome how people who don't use some countries medical system brag about how awesome it is... when you don't know jack shit other than the propaganda you've heard about how awesome it is.
You don't know shit about Canadas medical system, stop commenting on it.
Ignorant hippies who are looking for a 'cause' to fight and stick it to 'the man'. Thats the difference.
If all guns ceased to exist right this instant, they would just pick something new to rant and rave about like lunatics. Probably pencils or safety scissors or something.
Shear ignorance of facts is the keystone to slashdot posts as well, but you never let that stop you, do you?
Its amusing how you ignorant fucks act like no other country is patriotic. You're so caught up in trying to tell how evil the man is you miss the fact that everyone is the exact same, America just happens to be on the top of the food chain at the moment.
If Somalia was the top dog in the world right now, you'd be saying it about them, even though nothing else had changed.
Your lack of insight and introspection is outstanding. Fortunately, you're on slashdot, introspection isn't in the dictionary or language used by slashdotters.
Which has a Atheros AR9331 daughter board as well as an 8bit CPU. It runs Linux out of the box.
The board you linked to is a clone, not an actual arduino, and there are hundreds of different clones that run all sorts of CPUs right down the the Intel Galileo which is an Atom board (x86)
Know how many are available in the Apple iTunes store? Zero. If they allowed one to be listed, it would be admitting that their precious iPhones are vulnerable.
Know how many people get viruses or malware on their iPhone (without jailbreaking)... 0.
I'm sorry what was your point? Android is better because it allows you to anti-virus/malware software for your viruses and malware... and thats better than the iOS device that just doesn't have any viruses or malware? So you think its better to run extra software, waste more ram, cpu and storage space... so that you don't get something that iOS users just aren't going to get in the first place?
You utterly fucking fail at understanding security.
Do you think you would be better off in the Hindenburg with a parachute while it burns... or standing on the ground watching the morons in the Hindenburg burn up?
You can say the Apple model is bad because you can't install what you want approach, but the practical reality is that Apple's model BLOWS AWAY android because of that reason. If you want options, thats fine, choose android, but give up on this retarded bullshit about it being the ultimately awesome most superior thing that ever existed because OMFGBBQLINUX.
It make not be technically superior, but technical only matters in discussions of geeks, practical application is what matters, and I'm sorry, Android sucks in pretty much every conceivable way compared to iOS here. The walled garden stops most nefarious behavior during the review process and the far far superior permissions system in iOS takes care of the rest.
The only known threats on iOS devices have come to jailbroken phones and the jailbreaks themselves.
When Android doesn't require essentially every app you install to get access to private data BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN FUCKING INSTALL IT, then you MIGHT be able to start talking differently here. Until then you just make it obvious you're nothing more than a fanboy.
Could be there's something good about money that can't be manipulated by law.
Yea, except, there is no such currency in existence and never will be. I don't think you really understand how the world works. If you think BitCoin is a good idea, I KNOW you don't understand how the world works, but I would love to sell you a few things at a really cheap rate. Come on, don't let everyone else take advantage of you and leave me out just cause I'm honest about stealing your money.
Why is it half the shit on that list of comparisons is flat out lies or exaggerations beyond acceptable?
Even if you take the GNU fanboy side, its just full of flat out lies.
Pretending Linux some how magically doesn't even need upgrading... but windows does. Pretending this 3d printer is open source/libre... when it isn't even actually available. Pretending a Mac can't run Linux for some reason, and that somehow Apple laptops are prone to planned obsolescence but magically the Linux laptop isn't because? Pretending everything on iTunes is DRM'd... EXCEPT the biggest part of the iTunes store. (not that there isn't plenty of DRM on there in all the other stuff) Giving the gift of a donation to the FSF? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING? Thats about the most fucking selfish thing you can 'give'. You aren't even fucking giving anything, just tell the person you don't give a fuck about them, you're more concerned with getting your chance to suck RMS off next year. (its a long line)
Maybe your non-techie family members are different than everyone else's, but in general those non-techie family members will never really figure out their Windows or Macintosh PC, or their iPhone, or Google servicesâ"they're going to lean heavily on their family's designated techie for tech support regardless of what they're using (for learning how to do new things, for remembering how to do things they've done before, and for cleaning up the messes they get themselves into). Might as well give them something that's easier for you to support.
Uhm, you do realize reality is pretty much exactly the opposite of what you just said right...
Thats why our non-techie family members and friends use those things in the first place.
Grandma and grandpa may have tech issues since they were born before 30 years before the Internet even existed, but pretty much everyone else has figured out the popular products... that is why those products are popular.
Because your techie friends would much rather pick the shit out themselves and not be bound to whatever limited version of some product you pick out because you had to push RMSes politics on your 'friends'.
You're a pretty shitty friend from the sound of it. You don't seem to know much about techies and you seem to think projecting your own personal views/hippie ideology on others is something a friend would do.
Pretty much makes you a selfish jerk pretending to be something other.
The reality of it is, anyone who uses this guide to give gifts doesn't actually have any friends.
Its a list of crap that is wrapped entirely around RMS's silly political agenda.
Anyone who gives Linux as a gift is a such a douche that I can safely say they don't have ayn friends. Well, they may think they have friends, but no one thinks of them as such.
Anyone who would use that Linux distro... isn't going to want the one you're giving them, and can just go download it themselves... and to make matters worse, they're going to know that you as such a fake fuck that you didn't even put any effort into getting them a gift. Its not price, its thought, and giving Linux shows you put no thought into it.
The AC above me says 'give the gifts to your techie friends'.
No, asshole, I will not force RMS's silly political agenda on someone else. I will not presume to be able to determine which techie gift my techie friends want because I'm smart enough to know that my friends will want very specific techie gifts in specific configurations that I'm not going to know so the best I can do is give a gift certificate so they can pick something out themselves... in which case, I don't need this retarded list from RMS.
The article is about a Ford Escape being recalled for engine fires... which statistically... is has done FAR lower than Tesla.
12 in about 150k for ford - 0.008% VERSUS 3 in about 20k for Tesla - 0.015%
The Ford fire rate is HALF that of Tesla.
And Ford is actually addressing the issue. Musk is denying the issue exists.
Don't let facts get in the way or anything. The media and populace aren't fanboys. The numbers show Tesla in a pretty shitty light compared to the competition. So while Musk can run around being an arrogant prick talking about how their cars are so safe, statistics paint the opposite picture. This isn't a pinto issue. This isn't the media or big-auto making him look bad.
This is Musk making himself look bad and losing credibility.
His cars are catching fire twice as fast as a competitors car. The competitor is fixing the problem. Musk is refusing to acknowledge the problem, certainly isn't fixing it, and worse continually lying about how this isn't a big deal compared to other cars when in fact its twice as bad as other cars.
Why do you trust anything that comes out of his mouth? He's just as biased and selfish as any other CEO.
You seem to be lacking the ability to make distinction. So I'll break it down. Real. Simple.
Ford: Car burns when driver causes conditions for the engine to excessively overheat, until the ENGINE HEAD CRACKS AND STARTS LEAKING OIL. Cracking the engine head is not NORMAL OPERATIONS. When the head cracks, you are SO FAR beyond normal operations that the engine was never going to run again anyway, well before the fire started. Its not just sitting there and bursting into flames. Its catching fire AFTER its been damaged by the owner. End result: Car totaled after fire. No reported injuries.
Tesla: Battery pack... positioned under the passengers, between them and the road... catches fire, which so far has been directed away from the cabin, but smoke entering the cabin would kill anyone who stayed in it anyway. End result: Car totaled after fire. No reported injuries (other than fanboy pride)
Ford: Recalling and fixing vehicles
Tesla: What problem? We ain't got no stinking problem
I'm not really sure what fucked up world you live in where ignoring a known documented issue that entirely destroys the car and most certainly CAN kill its passengers makes it magically safer than the other car... which is being fixed to not catch fire and potentially kill people.
Musk refuses to even acknowledge a problem, thats scary. Puts him in the same category as big tobacco arguing against cancer statistics in smokers.
Sorry, but no. Car companies don't just do recalls. Like all other companies, they first calculate the cost of potential lawsuits vs. the cost of a recall. Then if the cost of the potential lawsuits outweigh the cost of a recall, they'll do the recall.
Or the bad press causes them lost sales, Or the NTSB tells them too, or they do it pre-emptively because they know the NTSB is going to. Actually now days, rarely does it get to the stage where its a question of how many lawsuits are they going to get. Taking preemptive action regularly makes it easier for them to get lower settlements should they actually get sued.
If a fire happens one or a few times due to the car meeting a very specific, user-created condition, then it's not worth a recall.
Perhaps you should go get the facts about the Ford Pinto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto Recalled BY THE NTSB... even though they said... it wasn't actually a problem! Let me guess... you don't realize the Pinto was statically as safe as any other car on the road even today, do you?
There is no "proactive" recall. Proactive means the action is taken prior to any event, as a preventative measure. Recalls only happen after an event has occurred
Uhm, cars get recalled often for events that don't occur 'in the field'. If you're counting testing that occurs by the manufacture as 'in the field' then you're using the wrong language. Its not uncommon, though it generally only happens early in the production of new model years. It generally happens before too many people have bought the car, otherwise the buyers would notice it too and it'd fall into a 'in the field' category.
Your post is cute and all, but facts and reality pretty much make it wrong in every way.
The entrenched and corrupt industry... that recalls and repairs cars that have problems.
Musk doesn't even acknowledge the problem.
Perhaps the reason he's in a battle is because he chooses to fight the wrong battles.
I'll be sure to trust the guy who tells me his cars are safe WHILE he's watching the video of the car on fire... and tells me thats not a concern.
Musks problem's are his own. He chooses to make his life harder than it needs to be. He also chooses to not acknowledge a known issue and make any modifications other than silly token gestures, to make the car safer.
Its not a question of which car has less reported accidents only, its also a question of how they respond to issues that come up. This tells you FAR more about how the company runs internally than anything else.
What we know from Musks' response is that he has no problem overlooking issues that can entirely destroy the car AND potentially kill its occupants... and he won't even pay us any lip service about looking at it. He just arrogantly denies its existence.
That does not make me feel safe about riding in a Tesla. We have no idea what else he just sweeps under the rug in the same way, but hasn't yet been caught on video.
Its not even a hard problem to solve in new model years, move the fucking battery pack to a location that isn't fucking retarded, like every other car manufacture who doesn't put a massive energy storage unit against the road.
More likely to catch fire in a 10 year old car by far,
Yea, and the cars that are burning up are less than 3 years old... Are ALL of them going to burn by the time they get to 10? (I know the answer is no, but your point is retarded and trying to compare apples to oranges). The difference is that other cars... get recalled and fixed... Musk just says there isn't a problem, nothing to see... as we watch the videos of the fires.
Its not that its happening, its the response Tesla is giving: Its not our problem, there is NO problem!
Versus Ford: Oh shit, some asshole overheated his engine, did this other silly thing, and it eventually broke down and caught fire... WELL outside normal operating conditions and abuse... Lets recall the vehicle and figure out a way to make that not happen even though its not actually a true design flaw...
So ford: Fix the problem
And Tesla: Problem? We ain't got no stinking problem, don't run over something unexpectedly on the hi way... even though in any other car it wouldn't be an issue because every other car doesn't put the big volatile energy supply on the road... and haven't for 70 years... since they learned that was a stupid idea. We think its a great idea because OMGFBBQELECTRIC.
Teslas are PROVEN to catch fire after damage from road debris because the battery is in a stupid fucking spot. There is no proof of them being 'very good cars', thats an opinion. Learn the difference.
Tesla's response to a fire issue: What fire issue?
THAT is why Tesla is getting a bad rap, and one that it entirely deserves until Musk pulls his head out of his ass, acknowledges that putting the battery pack against the road was as stupid an idea as putting a gas tank against the road (Which no one fucking does anymore... because experience taught them that it gets punctured and causes fires!)
Acknowledge the problem, move the fucking battery and shut up Musk, otherwise the only customers you're going to have left is ignorant fanboys who already bought your car and also don't want to acknowledge that it isn't as great as was claimed.
Ford recalled 140k cars over a couple fires... just like Tesla had.
Musk refuses to acknowledge there even might BE a problem.
There aren't 140k Tesla's in existence in total.
Ford actually is fixing the issue. Tesla is refusing to admit there IS an issue.
The issue exists because Musk and his engineers are arrogant pricks who think they know more than they do regardless of the fact that its a brand new car company with no experience.
The Ford Escape costs $22k. The Tesla Model S... 70k.
And one more time for those not paying attention: Ford issued a recall and is fixing the problem... Tesla is refusing to even acknowledge the potential problem.
I don't know about you, but I'll take the guy who fixes the problem over the guy who refuses to acknowledge it exists even when he watches it happen himself on video.
The whole story turned into a lie for me the instant it said anything about only decrypting it during a small time window each day. Some one who makes that statement, doesn't know what they are doing or talking about. Everything else you must assume is also wrong in every possible way.
The passwords are in the possession of at least three different people and are valid for only a brief time window each day, they said.
Either you're ignorant or a liar, either way by making this statement you make it clear there is no reason to assume there is an cache or that its got some awesome protection scheme to it or even exist at all.
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No where is perfect but Canada's medical system is far from the worst if I understand anything about it.
Why are you talking about a medical system that isn't your own?
Its awesome how people who don't use some countries medical system brag about how awesome it is ... when you don't know jack shit other than the propaganda you've heard about how awesome it is.
You don't know shit about Canadas medical system, stop commenting on it.
Ignorant hippies who are looking for a 'cause' to fight and stick it to 'the man'. Thats the difference.
If all guns ceased to exist right this instant, they would just pick something new to rant and rave about like lunatics. Probably pencils or safety scissors or something.
Shear ignorance of facts is the keystone to slashdot posts as well, but you never let that stop you, do you?
Its amusing how you ignorant fucks act like no other country is patriotic. You're so caught up in trying to tell how evil the man is you miss the fact that everyone is the exact same, America just happens to be on the top of the food chain at the moment.
If Somalia was the top dog in the world right now, you'd be saying it about them, even though nothing else had changed.
Your lack of insight and introspection is outstanding. Fortunately, you're on slashdot, introspection isn't in the dictionary or language used by slashdotters.
The latest "Arduino" is $90 http://blog.wickeddevice.com/?p=494 and still running a 8-bit CPU.
The latest Arduino board, the Due can be found here: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardDue
And its ARM based, a 32 bit CPU.
There is also the older Yun: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardYun
Which has a Atheros AR9331 daughter board as well as an 8bit CPU. It runs Linux out of the box.
The board you linked to is a clone, not an actual arduino, and there are hundreds of different clones that run all sorts of CPUs right down the the Intel Galileo which is an Atom board (x86)
Know how many are available in the Apple iTunes store? Zero. If they allowed one to be listed, it would be admitting that their precious iPhones are vulnerable.
Know how many people get viruses or malware on their iPhone (without jailbreaking) ... 0.
I'm sorry what was your point? Android is better because it allows you to anti-virus/malware software for your viruses and malware ... and thats better than the iOS device that just doesn't have any viruses or malware? So you think its better to run extra software, waste more ram, cpu and storage space ... so that you don't get something that iOS users just aren't going to get in the first place?
You utterly fucking fail at understanding security.
Do you think you would be better off in the Hindenburg with a parachute while it burns ... or standing on the ground watching the morons in the Hindenburg burn up?
You can say the Apple model is bad because you can't install what you want approach, but the practical reality is that Apple's model BLOWS AWAY android because of that reason. If you want options, thats fine, choose android, but give up on this retarded bullshit about it being the ultimately awesome most superior thing that ever existed because OMFGBBQLINUX.
It make not be technically superior, but technical only matters in discussions of geeks, practical application is what matters, and I'm sorry, Android sucks in pretty much every conceivable way compared to iOS here. The walled garden stops most nefarious behavior during the review process and the far far superior permissions system in iOS takes care of the rest.
The only known threats on iOS devices have come to jailbroken phones and the jailbreaks themselves.
When Android doesn't require essentially every app you install to get access to private data BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN FUCKING INSTALL IT, then you MIGHT be able to start talking differently here. Until then you just make it obvious you're nothing more than a fanboy.
And if money is a tool of the state, why do we allow a private banking system to issue our money?
We don't, you're just too ignorant and listen to stupid media far to often to realize how it actually works.
Could be there's something good about money that can't be manipulated by law.
Yea, except, there is no such currency in existence and never will be. I don't think you really understand how the world works. If you think BitCoin is a good idea, I KNOW you don't understand how the world works, but I would love to sell you a few things at a really cheap rate. Come on, don't let everyone else take advantage of you and leave me out just cause I'm honest about stealing your money.
When you can't beat them ... lie.
Why is it half the shit on that list of comparisons is flat out lies or exaggerations beyond acceptable?
Even if you take the GNU fanboy side, its just full of flat out lies.
Pretending Linux some how magically doesn't even need upgrading ... but windows does. ... when it isn't even actually available. ... EXCEPT the biggest part of the iTunes store. (not that there isn't plenty of DRM on there in all the other stuff)
Pretending this 3d printer is open source/libre
Pretending a Mac can't run Linux for some reason, and that somehow Apple laptops are prone to planned obsolescence but magically the Linux laptop isn't because?
Pretending everything on iTunes is DRM'd
Giving the gift of a donation to the FSF? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING? Thats about the most fucking selfish thing you can 'give'. You aren't even fucking giving anything, just tell the person you don't give a fuck about them, you're more concerned with getting your chance to suck RMS off next year. (its a long line)
... You're an idiot.
Maybe your non-techie family members are different than everyone else's, but in general those non-techie family members will never really figure out their Windows or Macintosh PC, or their iPhone, or Google servicesâ"they're going to lean heavily on their family's designated techie for tech support regardless of what they're using (for learning how to do new things, for remembering how to do things they've done before, and for cleaning up the messes they get themselves into). Might as well give them something that's easier for you to support.
Uhm, you do realize reality is pretty much exactly the opposite of what you just said right ...
Thats why our non-techie family members and friends use those things in the first place.
Grandma and grandpa may have tech issues since they were born before 30 years before the Internet even existed, but pretty much everyone else has figured out the popular products ... that is why those products are popular.
Because your techie friends would much rather pick the shit out themselves and not be bound to whatever limited version of some product you pick out because you had to push RMSes politics on your 'friends'.
You're a pretty shitty friend from the sound of it. You don't seem to know much about techies and you seem to think projecting your own personal views/hippie ideology on others is something a friend would do.
Pretty much makes you a selfish jerk pretending to be something other.
The reality of it is, anyone who uses this guide to give gifts doesn't actually have any friends.
Its a list of crap that is wrapped entirely around RMS's silly political agenda.
Anyone who gives Linux as a gift is a such a douche that I can safely say they don't have ayn friends. Well, they may think they have friends, but no one thinks of them as such.
Anyone who would use that Linux distro ... isn't going to want the one you're giving them, and can just go download it themselves ... and to make matters worse, they're going to know that you as such a fake fuck that you didn't even put any effort into getting them a gift. Its not price, its thought, and giving Linux shows you put no thought into it.
The AC above me says 'give the gifts to your techie friends'.
No, asshole, I will not force RMS's silly political agenda on someone else. I will not presume to be able to determine which techie gift my techie friends want because I'm smart enough to know that my friends will want very specific techie gifts in specific configurations that I'm not going to know so the best I can do is give a gift certificate so they can pick something out themselves ... in which case, I don't need this retarded list from RMS.
So all those guys who create perpetual motion machines are pioneers?
Being crucified doesn't make you a saint or right, the opposite in fact. Only occasionally do we get it wrong and crucify the innocent.
Which makes your statement pretty much entirely the most ass-backwards way of evaluating a situation.
The term we use for people who think like you is:
Gullible.
The article is about a Ford Escape being recalled for engine fires ... which statistically ... is has done FAR lower than Tesla.
12 in about 150k for ford - 0.008%
VERSUS
3 in about 20k for Tesla - 0.015%
The Ford fire rate is HALF that of Tesla.
And Ford is actually addressing the issue. Musk is denying the issue exists.
Don't let facts get in the way or anything. The media and populace aren't fanboys. The numbers show Tesla in a pretty shitty light compared to the competition. So while Musk can run around being an arrogant prick talking about how their cars are so safe, statistics paint the opposite picture. This isn't a pinto issue. This isn't the media or big-auto making him look bad.
This is Musk making himself look bad and losing credibility.
His cars are catching fire twice as fast as a competitors car. The competitor is fixing the problem. Musk is refusing to acknowledge the problem, certainly isn't fixing it, and worse continually lying about how this isn't a big deal compared to other cars when in fact its twice as bad as other cars.
Why do you trust anything that comes out of his mouth? He's just as biased and selfish as any other CEO.
You seem to be lacking the ability to make distinction. So I'll break it down. Real. Simple.
Ford: Car burns when driver causes conditions for the engine to excessively overheat, until the ENGINE HEAD CRACKS AND STARTS LEAKING OIL. Cracking the engine head is not NORMAL OPERATIONS. When the head cracks, you are SO FAR beyond normal operations that the engine was never going to run again anyway, well before the fire started. Its not just sitting there and bursting into flames. Its catching fire AFTER its been damaged by the owner. End result: Car totaled after fire. No reported injuries.
Tesla: Battery pack ... positioned under the passengers, between them and the road ... catches fire, which so far has been directed away from the cabin, but smoke entering the cabin would kill anyone who stayed in it anyway. End result: Car totaled after fire. No reported injuries (other than fanboy pride)
Ford: Recalling and fixing vehicles
Tesla: What problem? We ain't got no stinking problem
I'm not really sure what fucked up world you live in where ignoring a known documented issue that entirely destroys the car and most certainly CAN kill its passengers makes it magically safer than the other car ... which is being fixed to not catch fire and potentially kill people.
Musk refuses to even acknowledge a problem, thats scary. Puts him in the same category as big tobacco arguing against cancer statistics in smokers.
Sorry, but no. Car companies don't just do recalls. Like all other companies, they first calculate the cost of potential lawsuits vs. the cost of a recall. Then if the cost of the potential lawsuits outweigh the cost of a recall, they'll do the recall.
Or the bad press causes them lost sales, Or the NTSB tells them too, or they do it pre-emptively because they know the NTSB is going to. Actually now days, rarely does it get to the stage where its a question of how many lawsuits are they going to get. Taking preemptive action regularly makes it easier for them to get lower settlements should they actually get sued.
If a fire happens one or a few times due to the car meeting a very specific, user-created condition, then it's not worth a recall.
Perhaps you should go get the facts about the Ford Pinto. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto Recalled BY THE NTSB ... even though they said ... it wasn't actually a problem! Let me guess ... you don't realize the Pinto was statically as safe as any other car on the road even today, do you?
There is no "proactive" recall. Proactive means the action is taken prior to any event, as a preventative measure. Recalls only happen after an event has occurred
Uhm, cars get recalled often for events that don't occur 'in the field'. If you're counting testing that occurs by the manufacture as 'in the field' then you're using the wrong language. Its not uncommon, though it generally only happens early in the production of new model years. It generally happens before too many people have bought the car, otherwise the buyers would notice it too and it'd fall into a 'in the field' category.
Your post is cute and all, but facts and reality pretty much make it wrong in every way.
The entrenched and corrupt industry ... that recalls and repairs cars that have problems.
Musk doesn't even acknowledge the problem.
Perhaps the reason he's in a battle is because he chooses to fight the wrong battles.
I'll be sure to trust the guy who tells me his cars are safe WHILE he's watching the video of the car on fire ... and tells me thats not a concern.
Musks problem's are his own. He chooses to make his life harder than it needs to be. He also chooses to not acknowledge a known issue and make any modifications other than silly token gestures, to make the car safer.
Its not a question of which car has less reported accidents only, its also a question of how they respond to issues that come up. This tells you FAR more about how the company runs internally than anything else.
What we know from Musks' response is that he has no problem overlooking issues that can entirely destroy the car AND potentially kill its occupants ... and he won't even pay us any lip service about looking at it. He just arrogantly denies its existence.
That does not make me feel safe about riding in a Tesla. We have no idea what else he just sweeps under the rug in the same way, but hasn't yet been caught on video.
Its not even a hard problem to solve in new model years, move the fucking battery pack to a location that isn't fucking retarded, like every other car manufacture who doesn't put a massive energy storage unit against the road.
The important thing to note here is that:
These cars are being recalled and fixed.
Tesla isn't even acknowledging the problem, let alone doing anything to address the issue.
More likely to catch fire in a 10 year old car by far,
Yea, and the cars that are burning up are less than 3 years old ... Are ALL of them going to burn by the time they get to 10? (I know the answer is no, but your point is retarded and trying to compare apples to oranges). The difference is that other cars ... get recalled and fixed ... Musk just says there isn't a problem, nothing to see ... as we watch the videos of the fires.
Its not that its happening, its the response Tesla is giving: Its not our problem, there is NO problem!
Versus Ford: Oh shit, some asshole overheated his engine, did this other silly thing, and it eventually broke down and caught fire ... WELL outside normal operating conditions and abuse ... Lets recall the vehicle and figure out a way to make that not happen even though its not actually a true design flaw ...
So ford: Fix the problem
And Tesla: Problem? We ain't got no stinking problem, don't run over something unexpectedly on the hi way ... even though in any other car it wouldn't be an issue because every other car doesn't put the big volatile energy supply on the road ... and haven't for 70 years ... since they learned that was a stupid idea. We think its a great idea because OMGFBBQELECTRIC.
Teslas are PROVEN to catch fire after damage from road debris because the battery is in a stupid fucking spot. There is no proof of them being 'very good cars', thats an opinion. Learn the difference.
Fords response to a fire issue: Recall and Fix
Tesla's response to a fire issue: What fire issue?
THAT is why Tesla is getting a bad rap, and one that it entirely deserves until Musk pulls his head out of his ass, acknowledges that putting the battery pack against the road was as stupid an idea as putting a gas tank against the road (Which no one fucking does anymore ... because experience taught them that it gets punctured and causes fires!)
Acknowledge the problem, move the fucking battery and shut up Musk, otherwise the only customers you're going to have left is ignorant fanboys who already bought your car and also don't want to acknowledge that it isn't as great as was claimed.
Ford recalled 140k cars over a couple fires ... just like Tesla had.
Musk refuses to acknowledge there even might BE a problem.
There aren't 140k Tesla's in existence in total.
Ford actually is fixing the issue. Tesla is refusing to admit there IS an issue.
The issue exists because Musk and his engineers are arrogant pricks who think they know more than they do regardless of the fact that its a brand new car company with no experience.
The Ford Escape costs $22k. The Tesla Model S ... 70k.
And one more time for those not paying attention: Ford issued a recall and is fixing the problem ... Tesla is refusing to even acknowledge the potential problem.
I don't know about you, but I'll take the guy who fixes the problem over the guy who refuses to acknowledge it exists even when he watches it happen himself on video.
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If we wanted Snowden dead, he'd have been dead months ago.
We have no problem killing people we don't like. Publicly. In full view of a video camera.
If you think the US actually wants him dead, let me sell you my bridge ...
The whole story turned into a lie for me the instant it said anything about only decrypting it during a small time window each day. Some one who makes that statement, doesn't know what they are doing or talking about. Everything else you must assume is also wrong in every possible way.
The passwords are in the possession of at least three different people and are valid for only a brief time window each day, they said.
Either you're ignorant or a liar, either way by making this statement you make it clear there is no reason to assume there is an cache or that its got some awesome protection scheme to it or even exist at all.
No, he was still a brutal mugger who beat his wife and bit a mans ear the fuck off.
Changing his environment just gave him new targets.
I got the first post, do you seriously think I read the article? Be happy it was at least in the right ballpark topic wise!