That said, I can see it being useful in the privacy of your own car if they can get it to work in such a noisy environment.
For reference, it works great, even with the radio playing louder than most would probably prefer. Though I hold the phone up to my ear to activate and speak to Siri so the mic is close to my mouth. Works great, in fact, just to test it out, I composed an email entirely hands free by starting siri then laying the phone in my lap while I drove and just told it what to do. Did the same with a text message the other day. I hate text message conversations, but in this cause I wanted to leave a quick message for my wife without interrupting whatever she was doing at work. A text lets me give her just enough info to know how important it is without messing up her workflow.
Yes, because 4 million people waited an extra 3 months to buy the iPhone 4s so their projections where wrong. This is standard operating procedure in the stock market and was actually expected in advance by pretty much anyone who owned Apple stock and actually follows it.
This wasn't even a little unexpected to anyone with half a clue.
Stop being such a lazy self entitled worthless fuck and stop expecting everyone else to just give you everything in life for free.
Of course, if you had half a fucking clue and any motovation at all, you'd already know that are in fact OSS packages that do pretty much what Siri does, but without all the manual tweaking that Apple paid people to do for it.
God I hate twits like you, you're not only so lazy and self entitled that you expect everyone to just hand you all their work for free, you're too fucking lazy to bother to look and see if anyone has already done it for you.
People like you are the reason FOSS gets a bad name.
Why is this marked as Interesting? If you'd have bothered to even watch the demo of Siri you'd already know the answers. Siri isn't ALWAYS listening, you have to request its attention.
If you talk to Siri in an incoherent manner, its not going to do anything other than say 'what?' which is exactly the kind of response your going to get if you say 'fri' and nothing else at Siri now.
If you walk up to me on the street and just say 'fri', I'm going to be just as confused as Siri.
You narrow Siris domain by helping it with context.... you know, like you do in language with people, this isn't hard.
'Create a new appointment on Friday' or 'How do I fry sqaush' or 'what am I doing on friday'. And all of those things have enough easy to spot context that Siri can limit its search to an individual app very quickly.
Basically, you got marked as interesting for asking retarded questions that anyone who watched 10 seconds of video about the product already knows the answer too. Jesus, have you not even seen the TV commercials?
And with Apple's policy of not allowing apps that replicate existing functionality, they can effectively prevent others from offering services that they provide
The only time Apple has enforced this restriction is when the App was a blatant pile of shit or was doing something 'evil' in the process. There has yet to be an instance where a legitimate product was never allowed in to the appstore, delayed, certainly. Every single app I've seen rejected was rejected for obvious reasons that I've agreed with from a business and professional perspective when taking Apples target audience into account. (Know-it-all geeks who think they should always get their way is not Apple's target audience.)
Google would not be able to offer their own voice-based search app on iOS
Google does have its own voice activated search app on the iPhone, it sucks though. There are also several other apps just like Siri, Vlingo for instance is a popular one.
just as there are no other music stores on the platform
There are multiple other music stores for the iPhone, all of the apps for them are available in the App store.
Whether this is seen as anti-competitive or not will be another matter if iOS achieves dominance; However, ideally, choosing a platform should not limit you to a single music store, book store, etc.
Perhaps you should get some information from some point recently rather than basically quoting things that stopped being true years ago.
Siri is networked, nothing actually happens on your phone other than processing the voice into data to send off to the cloud to do the actual bit of turning what you said into a useful command of some sort.
Siri does not work without access to Apple's network, Siri is not in your phone, Siri is in Apple's data centers.
Siri is just a combination of several bits of code that reduce natural language to something useful to the computer, which then searchs several different things or performs some task that it already knows how to do.
Siri is not an AI in any form. The answers are not formed by its own thought process, it simply is search Google Maps, your device, Wolfram Alpha, Apple's custom responses ( you know, the stuff you see on ShitThatSiriSays ), gather the results, return them to the user.
When you ask it the meaning of life or How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, Apple has added responses for those situations, and they can continue to do so over time to keep Siri 'in touch' with current events and culture, but in the end, its actual intelligence of the human mind doing ALL of the work, Siri is just a database query to pre-canned responses.
Because of all of these things, you can not 'opt in to network Siri', because you are always using 'network Siri', there is no other form.
Gold has had value to humans for all of recorded history. Thats stability. Its rarity is real, and that alone gives it value due to nothing other than human nature. Its also useful in many processes to produce other things of value, in fact if Gold ceased to exist right this instant, its highly likely that the world would be instantly plunged into massive starvation issues as we'd no longer have the equipment to produce food at the efficiency levels we can today in order to support the incredibly dense and unsustainable cities we've created by our over population of the planet. Gold have many things that make it valuable other than 'its a backing for our currency'.
Bitcoin has never had any value to anyone but the most ignorant people in our society, and now its even more worthless to them. Bitcoins are not rare, they are easy to copy. Bitcoins are artificially scares, do just because you can't do the same cool calculation that resulted in a bitcoin and still be unique, there are billions of other calculations that are 'hard' and 'time consuming' that are more unique and rare and also far more beneficial to society. Bitcoin can go away and no one anywhere would notice, short of a few blathering idiots who also don't matter.
The real problem is that morons place value on bits of data rather than tangible items. When you trade in imaginary items, you get what you deserve, ripped off.
Right, because those really are two distinct different organizations and one doesn't have more or less complete and total authority and control over the other one.
Fucking seriously? Are you REALLY so fucked up as to try and argue that the reserve ISN'T government controlled because they have a different name and they have to launder money in order to make it up?
I have a bridge in Arizona that overlooks the new moon base alpha, sell it too you for $50k, it over looks the plains of Pluto too. Includes its own rocket ship with warp drive. I'll be glad to accept your bitcoins for an additional 10% as well.
Wrong. No one gained, the entire currency was deflated.
Currency speculation has been around for a long time because ignorant morons continue to fail to understand that you can not make something from nothing.
Its not speculation, is con games, you're just too stupid to realize it... or you're in on it trying to con others.
The only way you can believe the statement you made is if you have absolutely no intelligence or understanding of the way the real world works in general, your statement is mind numbingly ignorant.
In order for QNX to meet the specialized requirements you're thinking of, every part of the OS has to be certified, which means nothing Blackberry produces will be useful to the military for 2-4 years at the soonest or it will be stripped down to the point that RIM will have no advantage.
Contrary to popular belief QNX isn't that impressive anymore. It was at one point, but theres nothing about it now that isn't a well known and well understood concept, at least when your thinking of RTOS and security standpoints.
For students who have trouble paying for college, 1250 USD (Mac + iPT + certificate) is a lot of money.
No its not, thats 3 weeks of working McDonalds. Before your training is complete, you can own a macbook and an iOS cert, add another week and you've paid for an iPhone too.
For people living in countries with undervalued currencies compared to the USD [wikipedia.org], 1250 USD is a lot of money.
And Windows PCs are free there? No, but you're pretending they are because 'everyone owns a PC'. A full Windows license alone is ~30-40% of the cost of the entire buyin for mac development. You're making up costs based on picking and choosing what you're paying for.
No, Linux isn't a viable option to consider, you'll make exactly $0 a year trying to sell software for Linux.
And I haven't been able to find one way or another whether high school students under age 18 are eligible.
They won't ever be. You are entering into legally binding contracts. This isn't optional from a legal perspective. Just because you CAN get by with setting up a website and selling software doesn't mean you're doing it legally. Anyone under 18 can't enter legally binding contracts in any sane part of the world, and aren't legally allowed to run a business, so Apple has exactly dick to do with that constraint, just your ignorance of the law means you don't realize why it exists.
Of course, the solution is... Get an adult to enter into the binding contracts for you, you know, like your parents? If your parents aren't willing to do so, then you probably shouldn't be doing it. If you can't get an adult to accept responsibility for you in this case than you've managed to prove to everyone around you that you're a complete douche that no one trusts in the least.
In a fantasy, sure. Reality is never so simplistic and it makes you look ignorant to suggest that it is.
I've written my own OS and apps for it, there are 0 road blocks in my way... and not surprisingly, 0 income from it.
Somebody else can do all the work and hand you an absolutely flawless piece of perfectly functioning software and it still won't sell if no one wants it or it runs on a device that no one owns.
You can put all sorts of road blocks in front of me and it'll still be more profitable than no road blocks and no sales.
Because you're looking at it from an extremely simplistic view. You're looking at it from a single incident perspective, and thats not what it is. Its all sorts of little incidents like that one that add up, and then somehow get linked to you specifically, maybe through an invitation email with images that happen to autoload and slap you with a cookie.
You don't realize how much can be gathered via correlation when you collect EVERYTHING about EVERYONE and let computers sort it out.
Why? I've never understood this. So what if you get a couple of unsolicited emails a day? So what if you get a call on your cell that you didn't want? You've never heard of spam filtering, or Caller ID, or Delete, or Don't Answer?
Why? Well, I guess at the most basic of levels you could say its because I value my time way more than you value yours. I have things I want to do and someone cold calling me or sending me an unsolicited email is just fucking rude, inconsiderate and annoying.
I could choose to ignore the problem, in which case it will continue to be profitable for the assholes who do it, or I could choose to inflict as much deterrent on them as I possibly can so they learn that I do not appreciate the way they treat me and that it is a cost for them to waste my time.
If enough people did the same, instead of being idiots such as yourself, there would be a lot less spam (both email, phone and snail mail) and a lot fewer people getting ripped off by those scams.
The 'Why' you're looking for is because I choose to not be part of the problem like you choose to be part of the problem.
Don't confuse our lack of wanting to make reliable machines with the lack of ability to make reliable machines. When we need to, we can make some pretty hearty equipment, its just not practical for us to do it for ALL machines. Its also generally not as profitable either.
By dropping you're life insurance you completely lose everything you've paid in to that point, which is generally a fair chunk of change by that stage. In fact, it makes you pretty fucking stupid to do what you describe financially.
GPS accuracy and its timing accuracy is irrelevant here.
GPS was only used as a synchronization source for their own localized clocks.
It doesn't matter what the GPS time is, only that the two clocks are properly synchronized with each other as you're measuring a time span (time to get from emitter to collector)
There error could occur if the syncronization signal was not adjusted for the satellites relativstic movement (speed relative to receiving stations) and distance to the stations.
Relativistic effects should be handled fairly automatically using the phase shift in the GPS signal itself as part of the standard GPS maths that the equipment goes through. Second you have to take into account the position of the sat relative to the ground stations, and this is the easiest place for the error to occur.
Its been said elsewhere in this thread that 60ns is 18 meters at the speed of light (I assume thats correct, too lazy to look) and that that distance would be a noticeable error they would have caught in their calculations as they know the location of the ground stations accurately, which I agree with.
What would be hard to detect and compensate for at the accuracies required is the minute errors in the flight path of the sat. Its EASY for a sat to end up off 9 meters, which would be easy to not notice if you're only using GPS for a sync signal and assuming that your satellite almanac is accurate.
I find that to be unlikely as they repeated the experiment something like 15k times if I recall correctly, which makes it unlikely the error stayed consistent across the entire test period.
It would seem that if it was a sync timing issue, we wouldn't all be reading 'FTL neutrinos explained... Maybe', it'd be fairly easy to spot, even in something this complex, the math for the timing isn't THAT complex. I'm not saying I can do it in my head or anything, but these guys are a little more advanced than I.
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I vote for Grace Park. The only problem is she doesn't have an Americanised stage name
Grace Park isn't Americanised? Seriously?
Isn't it great your phone, that you never turn off
What? I'm not sure what shitty phone you have, but mine turns off.
That said, I can see it being useful in the privacy of your own car if they can get it to work in such a noisy environment.
For reference, it works great, even with the radio playing louder than most would probably prefer. Though I hold the phone up to my ear to activate and speak to Siri so the mic is close to my mouth. Works great, in fact, just to test it out, I composed an email entirely hands free by starting siri then laying the phone in my lap while I drove and just told it what to do. Did the same with a text message the other day. I hate text message conversations, but in this cause I wanted to leave a quick message for my wife without interrupting whatever she was doing at work. A text lets me give her just enough info to know how important it is without messing up her workflow.
Yes, because 4 million people waited an extra 3 months to buy the iPhone 4s so their projections where wrong. This is standard operating procedure in the stock market and was actually expected in advance by pretty much anyone who owned Apple stock and actually follows it.
This wasn't even a little unexpected to anyone with half a clue.
Or you could STFU and write it yourself.
Stop being such a lazy self entitled worthless fuck and stop expecting everyone else to just give you everything in life for free.
Of course, if you had half a fucking clue and any motovation at all, you'd already know that are in fact OSS packages that do pretty much what Siri does, but without all the manual tweaking that Apple paid people to do for it.
God I hate twits like you, you're not only so lazy and self entitled that you expect everyone to just hand you all their work for free, you're too fucking lazy to bother to look and see if anyone has already done it for you.
People like you are the reason FOSS gets a bad name.
Why is this marked as Interesting? If you'd have bothered to even watch the demo of Siri you'd already know the answers. Siri isn't ALWAYS listening, you have to request its attention.
If you talk to Siri in an incoherent manner, its not going to do anything other than say 'what?' which is exactly the kind of response your going to get if you say 'fri' and nothing else at Siri now.
If you walk up to me on the street and just say 'fri', I'm going to be just as confused as Siri.
You narrow Siris domain by helping it with context .... you know, like you do in language with people, this isn't hard.
'Create a new appointment on Friday' or 'How do I fry sqaush' or 'what am I doing on friday'. And all of those things have enough easy to spot context that Siri can limit its search to an individual app very quickly.
Basically, you got marked as interesting for asking retarded questions that anyone who watched 10 seconds of video about the product already knows the answer too. Jesus, have you not even seen the TV commercials?
And with Apple's policy of not allowing apps that replicate existing functionality, they can effectively prevent others from offering services that they provide
The only time Apple has enforced this restriction is when the App was a blatant pile of shit or was doing something 'evil' in the process. There has yet to be an instance where a legitimate product was never allowed in to the appstore, delayed, certainly. Every single app I've seen rejected was rejected for obvious reasons that I've agreed with from a business and professional perspective when taking Apples target audience into account. (Know-it-all geeks who think they should always get their way is not Apple's target audience.)
Google would not be able to offer their own voice-based search app on iOS
Google does have its own voice activated search app on the iPhone, it sucks though. There are also several other apps just like Siri, Vlingo for instance is a popular one.
just as there are no other music stores on the platform
There are multiple other music stores for the iPhone, all of the apps for them are available in the App store.
Whether this is seen as anti-competitive or not will be another matter if iOS achieves dominance; However, ideally, choosing a platform should not limit you to a single music store, book store, etc.
Perhaps you should get some information from some point recently rather than basically quoting things that stopped being true years ago.
Siri is networked, nothing actually happens on your phone other than processing the voice into data to send off to the cloud to do the actual bit of turning what you said into a useful command of some sort.
Siri does not work without access to Apple's network, Siri is not in your phone, Siri is in Apple's data centers.
Siri is just a combination of several bits of code that reduce natural language to something useful to the computer, which then searchs several different things or performs some task that it already knows how to do.
Siri is not an AI in any form. The answers are not formed by its own thought process, it simply is search Google Maps, your device, Wolfram Alpha, Apple's custom responses ( you know, the stuff you see on ShitThatSiriSays ), gather the results, return them to the user.
When you ask it the meaning of life or How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood, Apple has added responses for those situations, and they can continue to do so over time to keep Siri 'in touch' with current events and culture, but in the end, its actual intelligence of the human mind doing ALL of the work, Siri is just a database query to pre-canned responses.
Because of all of these things, you can not 'opt in to network Siri', because you are always using 'network Siri', there is no other form.
It would still have a value as an energy storage mechanism.
Yes, and your point is what?
Gold has had value to humans for all of recorded history. Thats stability. Its rarity is real, and that alone gives it value due to nothing other than human nature. Its also useful in many processes to produce other things of value, in fact if Gold ceased to exist right this instant, its highly likely that the world would be instantly plunged into massive starvation issues as we'd no longer have the equipment to produce food at the efficiency levels we can today in order to support the incredibly dense and unsustainable cities we've created by our over population of the planet. Gold have many things that make it valuable other than 'its a backing for our currency'.
Bitcoin has never had any value to anyone but the most ignorant people in our society, and now its even more worthless to them. Bitcoins are not rare, they are easy to copy. Bitcoins are artificially scares, do just because you can't do the same cool calculation that resulted in a bitcoin and still be unique, there are billions of other calculations that are 'hard' and 'time consuming' that are more unique and rare and also far more beneficial to society. Bitcoin can go away and no one anywhere would notice, short of a few blathering idiots who also don't matter.
The real problem is that morons place value on bits of data rather than tangible items. When you trade in imaginary items, you get what you deserve, ripped off.
Right, because those really are two distinct different organizations and one doesn't have more or less complete and total authority and control over the other one.
Fucking seriously? Are you REALLY so fucked up as to try and argue that the reserve ISN'T government controlled because they have a different name and they have to launder money in order to make it up?
I have a bridge in Arizona that overlooks the new moon base alpha, sell it too you for $50k, it over looks the plains of Pluto too. Includes its own rocket ship with warp drive. I'll be glad to accept your bitcoins for an additional 10% as well.
Wrong. No one gained, the entire currency was deflated.
Currency speculation has been around for a long time because ignorant morons continue to fail to understand that you can not make something from nothing.
Its not speculation, is con games, you're just too stupid to realize it ... or you're in on it trying to con others.
The only way you can believe the statement you made is if you have absolutely no intelligence or understanding of the way the real world works in general, your statement is mind numbingly ignorant.
In order for QNX to meet the specialized requirements you're thinking of, every part of the OS has to be certified, which means nothing Blackberry produces will be useful to the military for 2-4 years at the soonest or it will be stripped down to the point that RIM will have no advantage.
Contrary to popular belief QNX isn't that impressive anymore. It was at one point, but theres nothing about it now that isn't a well known and well understood concept, at least when your thinking of RTOS and security standpoints.
For students who have trouble paying for college, 1250 USD (Mac + iPT + certificate) is a lot of money.
No its not, thats 3 weeks of working McDonalds. Before your training is complete, you can own a macbook and an iOS cert, add another week and you've paid for an iPhone too.
For people living in countries with undervalued currencies compared to the USD [wikipedia.org], 1250 USD is a lot of money.
And Windows PCs are free there? No, but you're pretending they are because 'everyone owns a PC'. A full Windows license alone is ~30-40% of the cost of the entire buyin for mac development. You're making up costs based on picking and choosing what you're paying for.
No, Linux isn't a viable option to consider, you'll make exactly $0 a year trying to sell software for Linux.
And I haven't been able to find one way or another whether high school students under age 18 are eligible.
They won't ever be. You are entering into legally binding contracts. This isn't optional from a legal perspective. Just because you CAN get by with setting up a website and selling software doesn't mean you're doing it legally. Anyone under 18 can't enter legally binding contracts in any sane part of the world, and aren't legally allowed to run a business, so Apple has exactly dick to do with that constraint, just your ignorance of the law means you don't realize why it exists.
Of course, the solution is ... Get an adult to enter into the binding contracts for you, you know, like your parents? If your parents aren't willing to do so, then you probably shouldn't be doing it. If you can't get an adult to accept responsibility for you in this case than you've managed to prove to everyone around you that you're a complete douche that no one trusts in the least.
In a fantasy, sure. Reality is never so simplistic and it makes you look ignorant to suggest that it is.
I've written my own OS and apps for it, there are 0 road blocks in my way ... and not surprisingly, 0 income from it.
Somebody else can do all the work and hand you an absolutely flawless piece of perfectly functioning software and it still won't sell if no one wants it or it runs on a device that no one owns.
You can put all sorts of road blocks in front of me and it'll still be more profitable than no road blocks and no sales.
Because you're looking at it from an extremely simplistic view. You're looking at it from a single incident perspective, and thats not what it is. Its all sorts of little incidents like that one that add up, and then somehow get linked to you specifically, maybe through an invitation email with images that happen to autoload and slap you with a cookie.
You don't realize how much can be gathered via correlation when you collect EVERYTHING about EVERYONE and let computers sort it out.
Nor is it any less illegal to steal it because it was easy to steal.
Your logic isn't. You're arguing that we shouldnt' expect privacy because we take precautions against those who try to steal our identity.
All your statement does is makes you like ignorant and unintelligent, not clever.
Why? I've never understood this. So what if you get a couple of unsolicited emails a day? So what if you get a call on your cell that you didn't want? You've never heard of spam filtering, or Caller ID, or Delete, or Don't Answer?
Why? Well, I guess at the most basic of levels you could say its because I value my time way more than you value yours. I have things I want to do and someone cold calling me or sending me an unsolicited email is just fucking rude, inconsiderate and annoying.
I could choose to ignore the problem, in which case it will continue to be profitable for the assholes who do it, or I could choose to inflict as much deterrent on them as I possibly can so they learn that I do not appreciate the way they treat me and that it is a cost for them to waste my time.
If enough people did the same, instead of being idiots such as yourself, there would be a lot less spam (both email, phone and snail mail) and a lot fewer people getting ripped off by those scams.
The 'Why' you're looking for is because I choose to not be part of the problem like you choose to be part of the problem.
Spacecraft are rather good at it. Ask Vyger, err, Voyager 1/2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1
Hows 34 years and counting?
Don't confuse our lack of wanting to make reliable machines with the lack of ability to make reliable machines. When we need to, we can make some pretty hearty equipment, its just not practical for us to do it for ALL machines. Its also generally not as profitable either.
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By dropping you're life insurance you completely lose everything you've paid in to that point, which is generally a fair chunk of change by that stage. In fact, it makes you pretty fucking stupid to do what you describe financially.
Not necessarily wrong, just missing some details.
So wrong then? Yea?
If our current understanding was wrong, we would have already seen all sorts of phenomena that don't fit the theory.
We have, hence special relativity and several other theories competing to explain the weird bits.
We've got a good grasp of some parts of the general theory of everything, but we're also missing some major important bits that tie up loose ends.
GPS accuracy and its timing accuracy is irrelevant here.
GPS was only used as a synchronization source for their own localized clocks.
It doesn't matter what the GPS time is, only that the two clocks are properly synchronized with each other as you're measuring a time span (time to get from emitter to collector)
There error could occur if the syncronization signal was not adjusted for the satellites relativstic movement (speed relative to receiving stations) and distance to the stations.
Relativistic effects should be handled fairly automatically using the phase shift in the GPS signal itself as part of the standard GPS maths that the equipment goes through. Second you have to take into account the position of the sat relative to the ground stations, and this is the easiest place for the error to occur.
Its been said elsewhere in this thread that 60ns is 18 meters at the speed of light (I assume thats correct, too lazy to look) and that that distance would be a noticeable error they would have caught in their calculations as they know the location of the ground stations accurately, which I agree with.
What would be hard to detect and compensate for at the accuracies required is the minute errors in the flight path of the sat. Its EASY for a sat to end up off 9 meters, which would be easy to not notice if you're only using GPS for a sync signal and assuming that your satellite almanac is accurate.
I find that to be unlikely as they repeated the experiment something like 15k times if I recall correctly, which makes it unlikely the error stayed consistent across the entire test period.
It would seem that if it was a sync timing issue, we wouldn't all be reading 'FTL neutrinos explained ... Maybe', it'd be fairly easy to spot, even in something this complex, the math for the timing isn't THAT complex. I'm not saying I can do it in my head or anything, but these guys are a little more advanced than I.
If my GF didn't have a sun roof,
Does that mean she never wears a bra?
Do you here that noise, thats the whooshing sound that just went past you're head.