Like it matters. CS4 still doesn't work on case sensitive file systems, and getting anything that could be considered 'support' from Adobe is slightly easier than walking too the sun.
None of those apps are valid replacements for their counterparts.
GIMP has the worst UI known to man. Inkscape produces some of the shittiest SVG files I've ever see, its the IE of SVG, NVU is a joke, might as well use Thunderbirds message compose window and export the source. I've not used Scribus, but considering what you're touting as replacements for the other options I'm going to safely assume that its absolute shit as well. Have you ever used an app that didn't suck ass?
You can not possibly be a professional, sorry if it pisses off the GPL fanboys but reality sucks at times.
The problem is indeed YOUR PROBLEM, not theirs. You are the one who is insecure, not them. You're the one feeling inadequate among others. It doesn't matter if they point those things out or not, it IS odd that you as an American can write in Kanji and use chopsticks, most of us can't.
Get used to it, what you are experiencing is called life, its what happens when you are the odd man in the situation. It happens right here in America too, to white people by white people. Move from New York City to a small rural town in Georgia and you will get the EXACT SAME TREATMENT, you will never be one of them. You AREN'T one of them, thats just reality, get used to it.
Your perspective isn't from a white guy who has figured it out without any brainwashing, your perspective is from a white guy with no perspective or concept of how the entire animal kingdom works.
Its only insulting if you happen to be self loathing for some reason. Most of us aren't actually subjected to outright racism anymore and frankly don't give a fuck about something this trivial.
If you get all uppity over it than you need to consider how great your life is when the biggest 'bad thing' that happens in your day is some photo was changed to a guy with different skin color. If thats your 'bad day', then shut your pie hole and get a grip on reality. Give live where it is actually shitty to be black or where blacks are actually suffering.
Contrary to your belief, the world doesn't revolve around you and your pathetic insecurities.
After all apple was targeted at artists and creative people (per Steve Jobs) and programmers are not that target audience.
As a programmer, I think of my self as extremely creative and my work is in my opinion art.
Having recently purchased a new laptop, a MacBook Pro, so I could do iPhone dev work as well as target windows, I must say, I'm extremely happy that I can now run Netbeans, Visual Studio, and XCode on the same machine at the same time. Visual Studio runs in Coherence mode under Parallels so it feels pretty much like a native OSX app, except the title bar is still using the Windows chrome.
I live in Cary, NC. Work in Research Triangle Park, 'the silicon valley of the east coast'. I only know of one developer here that doesn't use a Mac for something, with the exception of the guys at Redhat, who for obvious reasons, would look bad to use OS X for development. A few of them do use Macs however, I'm not really sure why.
Sigh... wrong... did you even read the article you linked too?
PAE is supported only on 32-bit versions of the Windows operating system; 64-bit versions of Windows do not support PAE. For information about device driver and system requirements for 64-bit versions of Windows, see 64-bit System Design. The Address Windowing Extension (AWE) API is supported on 32-bit systems. It is also supported on x64 systems for both native and Wow64 applications. Although support for PAE memory is typically associated with support for more than 4 GB of RAM, PAE can be enabled on Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, and later 32-bit versions of Windows to support hardware-enforced Data Execution Prevention (DEP).
There is no PAE in 64 bit versions because it has no purpose
PAE will allow a single process to address more than 4GB of memory using AWE. Again, read the page you linked too.
Yes, there are several cases where running in 32bit mode is more efficient. When you double the size of all your pointers, in certain instances, you waste a lot of memory.
Perl is a good example, (probably python as well, no experience myself though). When you're doing massive amounts of string parsing using hashes and such, there are god knows how many pointers thrown around internally to perl, it can add up fairly quickly.
If for instance you're parsing a very large file into 7 byte or smaller strings, the pointers to each of those strings are larger than the strings themselves in 64 bit mode.
Thats an extreme example and not very realistic, but it does happen.
Sigh... allow me to point out how you are wrong in virtually everything you said.
Yea, but even if you enable 16GB of RAM under 32bit Windows, XP and Vista can only give 2GB of it to photoshop, MAX. No SINGLE application can utilize more than 4GB of virtual address space under PAE, had half the address space is reserved for the lernel.
Any application can easily access up to 3GB of memory directly, use the/3GB switch when booting. Using more than 3GB requires PAE and indirect addressing like the days of old.
PAE however is disabl;ed under 32bit OS as it has risks, especially for lots of drivers, and letting general users have access to this, without a process for validating and supporting all their apps under it (which most companies do not have programmers who understand this type of addressing), would be a support nightmare.
No its not, PAE is FOR 32 bit OSes, 64bit OSes don't need PAE, they can directly access the larger amounts of ram. PAE will be useful for running lots of apps that aren't aware of the API to utilize the extra memory, or allow apps that use the proper API to indirectly address larger amounts of ram, which is FAR faster than using some sort of swap like Photoshop does when it needs more RAM than available. PAE is turned on by default on clean installs of Windows XP SP2 so that DEP (The no execute bit) can function as the code in XP requires it.
Its possible for an application under 32bit windows to also take advantage of AWE (Address Windowing Extension). This requires the lock Pages in Memory privilidge for the app, and some pretty extensive code level support. This can allow a 32 bit app to use more than 4GB of RAM under 32bit. It is not very efficient.
Two things, first you just contridicted pretty much everything you wrote before this point, and second its FAR FAR more efficient than using disk based swap of some sort.
It;s also one of the API's you're paying extra for under the server licnece that you do not get under the workstation license (XP can't do this, Server 2003 can). Typically this is reserved for apps with massive datasets (DBs over 2GB, large video files, massive images, etc) in situations where the code can not be easily ported to 64bit but where support for AWE can be added.
Funny, works on my XP machine, not sure why it doesn't work for yours. Photoshop is fully aware of the extensions and will be happy to use more than 3GB of ram in XP 32 bit if you have more available.
Why must you people spew shit you have no clue about, to the point that you contradict yourself in your own post. If you're going to do this shit at least read the entire wikipedia page before you start posting rather than bit by bit as you post, it'll make you a little more believable and you'll get some extra knowledge too.
My iPhone syncs with Google apps for my Domain as well, I get my emails and cals synced just like you. I don't get a lot of text messages because, well, to put it bluntly texting is retarded on a phone that can do HTML email. A better keyboard would be nice, but my phone is for communicating important matters when I'm not at my desk, its not a replacement for my desktop.
And you have just pointed (and you fail to understand it still) why people prefer to pay Apple and develop for the iPhone and not for Android.
I'm not sure if you've ever dealt with real support from a company but having someone on the phone who knows wtf they are doing and works with you until its resolved is a little different than posting to newsgroups.
With android you get left standing naked in the middle of a field with nothing, not even a pair of shoes and told that if you look around and dig around you can find information on how to build some shoes, cloths, eventually maybe a compass and a map to find your way out of the field to your destination.
With the iPhone you get left standing named in the middle of a field with a cell phone and 2 free calls to people who know your situation, will air drop you some cloths and a compass and map, then if you need it, they'll show you how to read the map and use the compass. Finally, after you get out of the field, they'll market your story for only a 30% cut of the sales on the most people phone app store on the planet.
While your post could be 'informative' as it is moderated, it still utterly failed to get the point.
Look, no one really gives a fuck about having to pay apple or get permission, you know how I know? Because of the shear number of iPhone developers and apps compared to Android phones, developers and apps.
You twits need to find a better battle cry than 'apple makes you pay to play and doesn't let you do whatever you want' cause the only people that care are idiots like you who keep ranting how important it is failing to notice how no one else thinks its important.
The iPhone (and iPod Touch) seemed to have a significant number of third-party apps already available at launch,
No, they didn't, there were only apps included on the devices when they first came out. There was no 3rd party SDK when they were originally released, that came over a year later.
It has nothing to do with how easy it is to developer for, the iPhone is a pain in the ass imo, I've been doing professional development for 15 years or so, and the iphone is annoying to deal with due to the whole cocoa being made for retards thing.
What the iPhone has that Android doesn't have, is owners who are fanatics, and lots of them. Android isn't any more impressive than Windows Mobile in any way, sorry to disappoint. They do share a total lack of being unique, special, or attactive in the least, which is why very few people go out of their way to buy such phones. Limiting them to the geek crowd, which is a rather small crowd compared to having every teenager, trendy bastards, a good portion of the geeks out there, and a rapidly growing portion of the general public as well, that the iPhone does.
Developers don't care about it being friendly. Developers care about it being worth their effort to develop for. Its the same reason why you see apps targeting Windows and sometimes OS X, but rarely Linux. With phones you (now) see apps targeting the iPhone/iTouch, then Windows Mobile/Symbian, and eventually, a few GPL fanatics writing Android apps.
There more to life than what Stallman drools over and people who respond to 'Linux' for those same reasons are completely out of touch with the rest of the planet. iPhone fanatics aren't much different, they are hippies too... except iPhone hippies don't mind paying and Linux hippies as a general rule don't pay for anything if they can get a half assed poorly written alternative for no cost (WITH THE SOURCE CODE TOO!).
The problem is that Linux fanatics fail to understand the bottom line is to make money, so they fail utterly and completely any time money in involved.
Apple didn't 'convience' AT&T to carry its phone, AT&T gives apple all sorts of shit to be the lucky bastards who GET to carry the iphone. Verizon and TMobile would love to carry it in the US if they could but Apple won't sell it to them due to the deal AT&T gave them.
They were courting for the biggest slice of the pie before AT&T sealed the deal, can't remember which one it was but I do recall being upset that AT&T won it as they aren't the best in my area (Cingular at the time)
It is an upgrade, true, but ALL Apple OS sales are upgrades, they don't just sell a 'full install' because there has never been mac that went out the door without an OS on it.
Upgrading from 10.4 to 10.6 will not be a problem as long as you are an intel mac, 10.5 isn't required to be installed. In fact, upgrading from no OS will work as well, they 'upgrade' disks are fully bootable and will install on a blank harddrive.
Not sure where you get your ideas from but it would appear that you haven't been around for the last 5 OS upgrades with OSX or the previous 9 with System1-9, nothing new here, move along.
You know, I'm all for getting rid of AT&T and the likes, but why the hell don't they have the right to use their products influence to subdue competition.
You live in some fucked up utopian dream world that doesn't exist, businesses CAN use their products to tie you in, stop being a whiney bitch. 'No one is as good as XXX and I don't want to pay XXX' So go use YYY and not get service as good as XXX, don't try to enact a law or file suite to change things just because you don't like the way things turned out.
Why AT&T SHOULDN'T get by with this is because we've funded their asses to roll out broadband and cell access to rural areas and they've utterly failed to provide what they promised to do with the money we gave them, our tax money.
But thats not what you're bitching about, you're simply bitching that you don't like AT&T so you think its immoral that you have to play by their rules in order to use their service. Don't use their service, don't use an iPhone, problem solved.
Its a shame society exists, your dumb ass would have been eaten by the lion while whining about how its unfair that you can't run as fast as everyone else so you are going to get eaten.
As a iPhone owner and Google Voice users I can safely say while Visual voice mail is awesome, its not WHY I bought my iPhone. The iPod and first web browser that didn't suck ass on a phone would be far in front of visual voice mail.
GV is nifty but its not that impressive, its just basically a public version of an astrisk box that you don't have to maintain. The only difference between what it has right now and an asterisk box is that I don't have to worry about futzing with the asterisk machine when it gets loopy, for other less technical people, GV is obviously easier to do it with.
GV is still missing the most absolutely vital component to the whole picture. GV is useless without a computer or phone to listen to or read your messages on, so GV without a phone is useless. an iPhone without GV is still pretty useful, although you can't sign up for GV from mobile safari for some reason.
Visual voice mail was no more difficult for them than setting up the blackberry email push systems. I hate when people just spew some random bullshit and get marketed insightful.
When you can get Google voice to act as the handset for me, then maybe we'll talk, until then you're just a google fanboy trying to be a iphone hater.
AT&T has the same service for the iPhone, and just like your blackberry you pay for it monthly for the privledge of being able to call someone to give you the directions.
As someone who develops for blackberrys, winmobile and iphones, and having an iPod touch, 2 iPhones and several blackberry's including a couple of storms laying in my desk. The blackberry's appeal still blows my mind, you can dislike the iphone, for many man reasons that I understand, but Blackberrys have all pretty much sucked ass compared to their competition. Use a decent WinMobile device if you don't like the iPhone but for fucks sake wake up and realize your blackberry is a pile of crap with a UI designed by someone who must have never had to actually use the phone in the real world, or at best has never used another phone in their life.
You'd rather be OS locked onto Android? Thats fine, but stop acting like its somehow drastically different using Android, you're still locked into an OS that is used on fewer models of phones than the iPhone OS.
Do you enjoy being 'vendor locked' into whoever makes your car?
Do you enjoy being vender locked into whoever provides your electricity or water?
Get over yourself and off your high horse, iPhone/Apple users are known as smug asswipes, you'd fit right in as you are certainly a smug asswipe who thinks his shit (software of choice) is the only one that doesn't stink.
Apps are purchased once per itunes account. On the phone on on your PC you can redownload them again as needed.
I regularly delete/redownload apps as well as reimage my phone as I use it for development/testing.
The only real problem is that I have yet to be able to find a list of all the apps I've bought, so I'm sure that I've deleted some apps that I don't remember wasting money on and will probably never see them again even though I own them.
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Like it matters. CS4 still doesn't work on case sensitive file systems, and getting anything that could be considered 'support' from Adobe is slightly easier than walking too the sun.
None of those apps are valid replacements for their counterparts.
GIMP has the worst UI known to man. Inkscape produces some of the shittiest SVG files I've ever see, its the IE of SVG, NVU is a joke, might as well use Thunderbirds message compose window and export the source. I've not used Scribus, but considering what you're touting as replacements for the other options I'm going to safely assume that its absolute shit as well. Have you ever used an app that didn't suck ass?
You can not possibly be a professional, sorry if it pisses off the GPL fanboys but reality sucks at times.
The problem is indeed YOUR PROBLEM, not theirs. You are the one who is insecure, not them. You're the one feeling inadequate among others. It doesn't matter if they point those things out or not, it IS odd that you as an American can write in Kanji and use chopsticks, most of us can't.
Get used to it, what you are experiencing is called life, its what happens when you are the odd man in the situation. It happens right here in America too, to white people by white people. Move from New York City to a small rural town in Georgia and you will get the EXACT SAME TREATMENT, you will never be one of them. You AREN'T one of them, thats just reality, get used to it.
Your perspective isn't from a white guy who has figured it out without any brainwashing, your perspective is from a white guy with no perspective or concept of how the entire animal kingdom works.
Its only insulting if you happen to be self loathing for some reason. Most of us aren't actually subjected to outright racism anymore and frankly don't give a fuck about something this trivial.
If you get all uppity over it than you need to consider how great your life is when the biggest 'bad thing' that happens in your day is some photo was changed to a guy with different skin color. If thats your 'bad day', then shut your pie hole and get a grip on reality. Give live where it is actually shitty to be black or where blacks are actually suffering.
Contrary to your belief, the world doesn't revolve around you and your pathetic insecurities.
Whooosh
As a programmer, I think of my self as extremely creative and my work is in my opinion art.
Having recently purchased a new laptop, a MacBook Pro, so I could do iPhone dev work as well as target windows, I must say, I'm extremely happy that I can now run Netbeans, Visual Studio, and XCode on the same machine at the same time. Visual Studio runs in Coherence mode under Parallels so it feels pretty much like a native OSX app, except the title bar is still using the Windows chrome.
I live in Cary, NC. Work in Research Triangle Park, 'the silicon valley of the east coast'. I only know of one developer here that doesn't use a Mac for something, with the exception of the guys at Redhat, who for obvious reasons, would look bad to use OS X for development. A few of them do use Macs however, I'm not really sure why.
The difference is, when Apple does it, you know its Apple doing it, they make no attempt to hide who they are.
These people aren't letting anyone know they are affiliated with the product they are reviewing. Its deception.
Sigh ... wrong ... did you even read the article you linked too?
PAE is supported only on 32-bit versions of the Windows operating system; 64-bit versions of Windows do not support PAE. For information about device driver and system requirements for 64-bit versions of Windows, see 64-bit System Design. The Address Windowing Extension (AWE) API is supported on 32-bit systems. It is also supported on x64 systems for both native and Wow64 applications.
Although support for PAE memory is typically associated with support for more than 4 GB of RAM, PAE can be enabled on Windows XP SP2, Windows Server 2003, and later 32-bit versions of Windows to support hardware-enforced Data Execution Prevention (DEP).
There is no PAE in 64 bit versions because it has no purpose
PAE will allow a single process to address more than 4GB of memory using AWE. Again, read the page you linked too.
The article you link to for the whole 12MB thing is a scam, sorry.
Yes, there are several cases where running in 32bit mode is more efficient. When you double the size of all your pointers, in certain instances, you waste a lot of memory.
Perl is a good example, (probably python as well, no experience myself though). When you're doing massive amounts of string parsing using hashes and such, there are god knows how many pointers thrown around internally to perl, it can add up fairly quickly.
If for instance you're parsing a very large file into 7 byte or smaller strings, the pointers to each of those strings are larger than the strings themselves in 64 bit mode.
Thats an extreme example and not very realistic, but it does happen.
Sigh... allow me to point out how you are wrong in virtually everything you said.
Yea, but even if you enable 16GB of RAM under 32bit Windows, XP and Vista can only give 2GB of it to photoshop, MAX. No SINGLE application can utilize more than 4GB of virtual address space under PAE, had half the address space is reserved for the lernel.
Any application can easily access up to 3GB of memory directly, use the /3GB switch when booting. Using more than 3GB requires PAE and indirect addressing like the days of old.
PAE however is disabl;ed under 32bit OS as it has risks, especially for lots of drivers, and letting general users have access to this, without a process for validating and supporting all their apps under it (which most companies do not have programmers who understand this type of addressing), would be a support nightmare.
No its not, PAE is FOR 32 bit OSes, 64bit OSes don't need PAE, they can directly access the larger amounts of ram. PAE will be useful for running lots of apps that aren't aware of the API to utilize the extra memory, or allow apps that use the proper API to indirectly address larger amounts of ram, which is FAR faster than using some sort of swap like Photoshop does when it needs more RAM than available. PAE is turned on by default on clean installs of Windows XP SP2 so that DEP (The no execute bit) can function as the code in XP requires it.
Its possible for an application under 32bit windows to also take advantage of AWE (Address Windowing Extension). This requires the lock Pages in Memory privilidge for the app, and some pretty extensive code level support. This can allow a 32 bit app to use more than 4GB of RAM under 32bit. It is not very efficient.
Two things, first you just contridicted pretty much everything you wrote before this point, and second its FAR FAR more efficient than using disk based swap of some sort.
It;s also one of the API's you're paying extra for under the server licnece that you do not get under the workstation license (XP can't do this, Server 2003 can). Typically this is reserved for apps with massive datasets (DBs over 2GB, large video files, massive images, etc) in situations where the code can not be easily ported to 64bit but where support for AWE can be added.
Funny, works on my XP machine, not sure why it doesn't work for yours. Photoshop is fully aware of the extensions and will be happy to use more than 3GB of ram in XP 32 bit if you have more available.
Why must you people spew shit you have no clue about, to the point that you contradict yourself in your own post. If you're going to do this shit at least read the entire wikipedia page before you start posting rather than bit by bit as you post, it'll make you a little more believable and you'll get some extra knowledge too.
My iPhone syncs with Google apps for my Domain as well, I get my emails and cals synced just like you. I don't get a lot of text messages because, well, to put it bluntly texting is retarded on a phone that can do HTML email. A better keyboard would be nice, but my phone is for communicating important matters when I'm not at my desk, its not a replacement for my desktop.
And you have just pointed (and you fail to understand it still) why people prefer to pay Apple and develop for the iPhone and not for Android.
I'm not sure if you've ever dealt with real support from a company but having someone on the phone who knows wtf they are doing and works with you until its resolved is a little different than posting to newsgroups.
With android you get left standing naked in the middle of a field with nothing, not even a pair of shoes and told that if you look around and dig around you can find information on how to build some shoes, cloths, eventually maybe a compass and a map to find your way out of the field to your destination.
With the iPhone you get left standing named in the middle of a field with a cell phone and 2 free calls to people who know your situation, will air drop you some cloths and a compass and map, then if you need it, they'll show you how to read the map and use the compass. Finally, after you get out of the field, they'll market your story for only a 30% cut of the sales on the most people phone app store on the planet.
While your post could be 'informative' as it is moderated, it still utterly failed to get the point.
Look, no one really gives a fuck about having to pay apple or get permission, you know how I know? Because of the shear number of iPhone developers and apps compared to Android phones, developers and apps.
You twits need to find a better battle cry than 'apple makes you pay to play and doesn't let you do whatever you want' cause the only people that care are idiots like you who keep ranting how important it is failing to notice how no one else thinks its important.
No, they didn't, there were only apps included on the devices when they first came out. There was no 3rd party SDK when they were originally released, that came over a year later.
It has nothing to do with how easy it is to developer for, the iPhone is a pain in the ass imo, I've been doing professional development for 15 years or so, and the iphone is annoying to deal with due to the whole cocoa being made for retards thing.
What the iPhone has that Android doesn't have, is owners who are fanatics, and lots of them. Android isn't any more impressive than Windows Mobile in any way, sorry to disappoint. They do share a total lack of being unique, special, or attactive in the least, which is why very few people go out of their way to buy such phones. Limiting them to the geek crowd, which is a rather small crowd compared to having every teenager, trendy bastards, a good portion of the geeks out there, and a rapidly growing portion of the general public as well, that the iPhone does.
Developers don't care about it being friendly. Developers care about it being worth their effort to develop for. Its the same reason why you see apps targeting Windows and sometimes OS X, but rarely Linux. With phones you (now) see apps targeting the iPhone/iTouch, then Windows Mobile/Symbian, and eventually, a few GPL fanatics writing Android apps.
There more to life than what Stallman drools over and people who respond to 'Linux' for those same reasons are completely out of touch with the rest of the planet. iPhone fanatics aren't much different, they are hippies too... except iPhone hippies don't mind paying and Linux hippies as a general rule don't pay for anything if they can get a half assed poorly written alternative for no cost (WITH THE SOURCE CODE TOO!).
The problem is that Linux fanatics fail to understand the bottom line is to make money, so they fail utterly and completely any time money in involved.
No one knows what your phone is because no one cares. Its not special to anyone other than geeks and there are a limited number of geeks.
Apple didn't 'convience' AT&T to carry its phone, AT&T gives apple all sorts of shit to be the lucky bastards who GET to carry the iphone. Verizon and TMobile would love to carry it in the US if they could but Apple won't sell it to them due to the deal AT&T gave them.
They were courting for the biggest slice of the pie before AT&T sealed the deal, can't remember which one it was but I do recall being upset that AT&T won it as they aren't the best in my area (Cingular at the time)
'Allow'? Pretty hard to stop you, put in a verizon sim card and it'll work.
It is an upgrade, true, but ALL Apple OS sales are upgrades, they don't just sell a 'full install' because there has never been mac that went out the door without an OS on it.
Upgrading from 10.4 to 10.6 will not be a problem as long as you are an intel mac, 10.5 isn't required to be installed. In fact, upgrading from no OS will work as well, they 'upgrade' disks are fully bootable and will install on a blank harddrive.
Not sure where you get your ideas from but it would appear that you haven't been around for the last 5 OS upgrades with OSX or the previous 9 with System1-9, nothing new here, move along.
Its a $30 data package, just for reference.
You know, I'm all for getting rid of AT&T and the likes, but why the hell don't they have the right to use their products influence to subdue competition.
You live in some fucked up utopian dream world that doesn't exist, businesses CAN use their products to tie you in, stop being a whiney bitch. 'No one is as good as XXX and I don't want to pay XXX' So go use YYY and not get service as good as XXX, don't try to enact a law or file suite to change things just because you don't like the way things turned out.
Why AT&T SHOULDN'T get by with this is because we've funded their asses to roll out broadband and cell access to rural areas and they've utterly failed to provide what they promised to do with the money we gave them, our tax money.
But thats not what you're bitching about, you're simply bitching that you don't like AT&T so you think its immoral that you have to play by their rules in order to use their service. Don't use their service, don't use an iPhone, problem solved.
Its a shame society exists, your dumb ass would have been eaten by the lion while whining about how its unfair that you can't run as fast as everyone else so you are going to get eaten.
As a iPhone owner and Google Voice users I can safely say while Visual voice mail is awesome, its not WHY I bought my iPhone. The iPod and first web browser that didn't suck ass on a phone would be far in front of visual voice mail.
GV is nifty but its not that impressive, its just basically a public version of an astrisk box that you don't have to maintain. The only difference between what it has right now and an asterisk box is that I don't have to worry about futzing with the asterisk machine when it gets loopy, for other less technical people, GV is obviously easier to do it with.
GV is still missing the most absolutely vital component to the whole picture. GV is useless without a computer or phone to listen to or read your messages on, so GV without a phone is useless. an iPhone without GV is still pretty useful, although you can't sign up for GV from mobile safari for some reason.
Visual voice mail was no more difficult for them than setting up the blackberry email push systems. I hate when people just spew some random bullshit and get marketed insightful.
When you can get Google voice to act as the handset for me, then maybe we'll talk, until then you're just a google fanboy trying to be a iphone hater.
Heres a hint, you suck at both.
AT&T has the same service for the iPhone, and just like your blackberry you pay for it monthly for the privledge of being able to call someone to give you the directions.
As someone who develops for blackberrys, winmobile and iphones, and having an iPod touch, 2 iPhones and several blackberry's including a couple of storms laying in my desk. The blackberry's appeal still blows my mind, you can dislike the iphone, for many man reasons that I understand, but Blackberrys have all pretty much sucked ass compared to their competition. Use a decent WinMobile device if you don't like the iPhone but for fucks sake wake up and realize your blackberry is a pile of crap with a UI designed by someone who must have never had to actually use the phone in the real world, or at best has never used another phone in their life.
What a retarded statement.
You'd rather be OS locked onto Android? Thats fine, but stop acting like its somehow drastically different using Android, you're still locked into an OS that is used on fewer models of phones than the iPhone OS.
Do you enjoy being 'vendor locked' into whoever makes your car?
Do you enjoy being vender locked into whoever provides your electricity or water?
Get over yourself and off your high horse, iPhone/Apple users are known as smug asswipes, you'd fit right in as you are certainly a smug asswipe who thinks his shit (software of choice) is the only one that doesn't stink.
Apps are purchased once per itunes account. On the phone on on your PC you can redownload them again as needed.
I regularly delete/redownload apps as well as reimage my phone as I use it for development/testing.
The only real problem is that I have yet to be able to find a list of all the apps I've bought, so I'm sure that I've deleted some apps that I don't remember wasting money on and will probably never see them again even though I own them.