If you look back 50 years ago, there were IT people. IBM, for instance, was in the business of making machines to punch IBM Cards, sort IBM cards, and generate reports from data pulled off IBM cards. Information. Technology.
Computers are a component of IT. Just like copying machines, Pendeflex hanging folders, and to a certain degree, Rolodexes.
I would estimate the ratio is small if you compare the number of RC cars versus the number of simple plastic or metal diecast cars with free wheels that small boys can push around on the floor while making engine noises.
If Dean makes it to be the Democratic candidate in the mainstream election, he's going to be plowed under by the mainstream public of the United States.
The 2000 election was a very close one. So close that algore would have been elected if he had even won the electoral votes in his home state of Tennesee, whose people presumably know more about him than the average US citizen. It's completely unprecedented for an incumbent VP not get the 'favorite son' vote. Hell, even wobbly old Walter Mondale carried the Minnesota vote in his defeat when he faced Reagan.
No, Dean isn't gonna do it. The Democrats might as well nominate Sharpton as Dean.
It's amusing to hear one of the champions of the 'entitlements' programs for the hyphenated-Americans rant on about 'entitlements.' What a hoot.
The Goreans may have known more than we give them credit for. Possibly a recount, if it included things like the military absentee ballots, would have gone even further against them.
There certainly has been no recount, formal or informal, would have given algore the electoral votes.
I once underclocked a 286 machine to about 500 KHz. It had a crystal block oscillator that made it run at the standard 6 MHz. I plugged in a slower oscillator. It took a HELL of a long time to get through the POST but it worked. There's a minimum speed that most chips can run, though.
My namesake, the IM6100 processor (the "PDP-8 on a chip" processor, I have tubes of 'em, write if you want to buy one) is all static CMOS and can run down to zero hertz. Well, not zero hertz, but you can use a hamster wheel with a hall-effect switch to drive the clock if you like.
Some chip vendors are still selling millions of 4-bit processors per year. You'd better be ready to order at least a half million or so for them to mask your code, of course.
It's possible they don't want their evidence tainted in 'the court of popular opinion' so they choose to wait until their day in court to reveal it.
I'm just saying. I am not on SCO's side. I do think that there's a considerable body of 'popular opinion' out there that doesn't care if SCO is right or not.
Marc Andreesen, founder of Netscape, didn't have squat, and most people agree he wasn't the key member of the Netscape development team. And he and Clark (the vulture capitalist involved) hired away other members of the Mosaic team.
In one sense, it's an example of software developed at a University being 'privitized' successfully, rather than languishing on a campus forever. But in another sense, it's an example of someone running off with a project, and it's team members, taking publicly funded IP with them.
I'd hate to say individuals are 'trapped' on campus and not allowed to leave and become wealthy based on skills they learned on campus. But when they take the work that the university paid for with them.... it becomes a bit murky.
And really, the thrust of my comments on Netscape aren't that they are 'pure evil' or anything. Just that they're the same ambiguous folks as the rest of us. It's possible we're LUCKY Microsoft stomped Netscape into the dirt. I don't know that I'd want the entire Web to be 0wnzered by the company that at their height of power put a non-removable 'Buy' button on the browser toolbar...
Apple 'brutally crushed' Apple clones going way back into the Apple II days. There were a number of Apple II clones, all run out of business by the Apple legal team.
Also note the Apple Look-n-feel lawsuit. If Apple had won that one, Microsoft wouldn't have been allowed to produce Windows, nor would the X Window System be allowed to exist without paying heavy royalties to Apple. Apple essentially claimed they owned the GUI and claimed it in it's entirety as their own. It's ironic that Microsoft's legal dollars paid for the right for us all to use common GUI elements that otherwise would be Apple Computer property.
There is a LONG history of Free Software folks being strongly against Apple during the look-n-feel suit that seems to have been airbrushed away in recent years.
If we're not careful, within a few years Linux may be the 'free software that sucks' in computer labs around the world. Kids will go home and tell dad what NOT to get.
Yes, that's important to note. Spyglass was set up as a company to license the Mosaic codebase, in cooperating with UIUC where it was developed.
The Netscape folks just grabbed it, and hired away most of the development team, and gave NOTHING to UIUC. Because they could, and got away with it.
Subsequently, the deal didn't go 'well' for Spyglass because Microsoft elected to 'give IE away for free' and Spyglass as a result didn't get a very big 'percentage' amount, but at least Microsoft didn't outright STEAL the whole thing, which is what Netscape did.
The MS-DOS (PC-DOS, actually) that Microsoft bought and sold to IBM was usable, but just barely. I have a full copy (with manual) of IBM PC-DOS 1.0 and let's just say it's primative. There are some interesting 'features' like- you are REQUIRED to enter date and time at bootup. It won't let you just hit enter, as is the case with DOS 1.1 and later.
Still, it will run in an IBM PC with as little as 16K of RAM, which is fairly impressive.
It's interesting how many people I see 'soft pedaling' this because it's Apple Computer doing it.
If this was Microsoft doing this, there would already by 700 comments and the Slashdot site would be bogged down and unresponsive because of the fury.
This is dangerous stuff, folks. If this is a precedent, then all the employers of people who have contributed to the Linux kernal, and to various GPL's and BSD licensed products can step forward and claim their chunk of code, too.
It's dismaying that so many 'Apple Loyalists' have joined in on the Slashdot 'Anything Microsoft Does is Eeeevile but any other company is okay' choir. We don't need a 'new master, same as the old master' ascending to power, but some here seem to think it would be okay.
Wow. You've seen Bruce Peren's distorted version of history, too. That scary music they played in the background of 'Revolution OS' when talking about the Homebrew club was just awesome. Background music is always so important. It cues us about how we should think and feel.
The whole thing started when Microsoft produced a ROM-based BASIC language. It was used on a bunch of computer systems. There was also a Microsoft BASIC for CP/M. The CP/M community was notorious for buying one copy of each program per city/usergroup.
Bill Gates wrote a letter to them basically saying 'Come on, guys...' A letter that actually made a lot of sense.
Perens and the whole GNU/Unix/Hacker crowd weren't at all, in anyway, a part of that scene. They were hanging out on their greenscreens in an entire seperate part of the subculture.
That's right. IE was started from an existing codebase. Microsoft licensed Spyglass Mosaic.
Netscape, on the other hand, was started by some vulture capitalists raiding the Mosaic team, closing the source, and running to the west coast with it all.
True, but Apache isn't Linux, nor GPL. And many installations are actually on windows, since apache 2.0.
Furthermore, Microsoft puts the focus of IIS on 'Workgroup Server' kind of stuff. Like deparmental websites within companies. Seamlessly editable web pages that the department manager can update using Word.
I doubt if they sweat bullets about the fact that a bunch of amateur sites on the Internet use Apache instead. Really, IIS isn't even focused on 'Pictures of Our Cats' websites.
Actually, the built in telnet client in Windows has gotten increasingly better with each version, from WFW 3.11 to W2K. The stupid bugs in Win 9x have disappeared and it's finally a clean text-mode app like it should be. Dunno about XP cuz I may never run it...
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"I.T." stands for Information Technology.
If you look back 50 years ago, there were IT people. IBM, for instance, was in the business of making machines to punch IBM Cards, sort IBM cards, and generate reports from data pulled off IBM cards. Information. Technology.
Computers are a component of IT. Just like copying machines, Pendeflex hanging folders, and to a certain degree, Rolodexes.
hot cars this years
By 'hot' I assume you mean 'hyped.'
I would estimate the ratio is small if you compare the number of RC cars versus the number of simple plastic or metal diecast cars with free wheels that small boys can push around on the floor while making engine noises.
If Dean makes it to be the Democratic candidate in the mainstream election, he's going to be plowed under by the mainstream public of the United States.
The 2000 election was a very close one. So close that algore would have been elected if he had even won the electoral votes in his home state of Tennesee, whose people presumably know more about him than the average US citizen. It's completely unprecedented for an incumbent VP not get the 'favorite son' vote. Hell, even wobbly old Walter Mondale carried the Minnesota vote in his defeat when he faced Reagan.
No, Dean isn't gonna do it. The Democrats might as well nominate Sharpton as Dean.
It's amusing to hear one of the champions of the 'entitlements' programs for the hyphenated-Americans rant on about 'entitlements.' What a hoot.
The Goreans may have known more than we give them credit for. Possibly a recount, if it included things like the military absentee ballots, would have gone even further against them.
There certainly has been no recount, formal or informal, would have given algore the electoral votes.
You bring up nostalgic memories of trying to squeeze out that extra 16K of RAM in DOS...
The good old days. My father's first IBM-PC had 64K on the motherboard. Four rows of 16Kx1 DRAM chips. Only the first row was soldered in.
I once underclocked a 286 machine to about 500 KHz. It had a crystal block oscillator that made it run at the standard 6 MHz. I plugged in a slower oscillator. It took a HELL of a long time to get through the POST but it worked. There's a minimum speed that most chips can run, though.
My namesake, the IM6100 processor (the "PDP-8 on a chip" processor, I have tubes of 'em, write if you want to buy one) is all static CMOS and can run down to zero hertz. Well, not zero hertz, but you can use a hamster wheel with a hall-effect switch to drive the clock if you like.
Some chip vendors are still selling millions of 4-bit processors per year. You'd better be ready to order at least a half million or so for them to mask your code, of course.
It's possible they don't want their evidence tainted in 'the court of popular opinion' so they choose to wait until their day in court to reveal it.
I'm just saying. I am not on SCO's side. I do think that there's a considerable body of 'popular opinion' out there that doesn't care if SCO is right or not.
Marc Andreesen, founder of Netscape, didn't have squat, and most people agree he wasn't the key member of the Netscape development team. And he and Clark (the vulture capitalist involved) hired away other members of the Mosaic team.
In one sense, it's an example of software developed at a University being 'privitized' successfully, rather than languishing on a campus forever. But in another sense, it's an example of someone running off with a project, and it's team members, taking publicly funded IP with them.
I'd hate to say individuals are 'trapped' on campus and not allowed to leave and become wealthy based on skills they learned on campus. But when they take the work that the university paid for with them.... it becomes a bit murky.
And really, the thrust of my comments on Netscape aren't that they are 'pure evil' or anything. Just that they're the same ambiguous folks as the rest of us. It's possible we're LUCKY Microsoft stomped Netscape into the dirt. I don't know that I'd want the entire Web to be 0wnzered by the company that at their height of power put a non-removable 'Buy' button on the browser toolbar...
Well, there's a bundle of text-mode tools in OS X that they ported over from the FreeBSD userland. And a few GNU tools.
Most Apple users never encounter that stuff, in the Apple GUI they reside in.
But you know what you're talking about. I guess.
Most Politically Correct.
Great place to work for if you're a politically active Feminist or Gay Rights advocate.
I only buy my Apple hardware at auction, for prices like $5 a pallet.
What with the 'software bloat' phenomeon that has now taken solid hold of the market, I am getting damn fine and highly usable Macs for my dollar.
None of the hippy-shit Macs have fallen enough in value, though. But the beige G3 is a damn fine machine.
Apple 'brutally crushed' Apple clones going way back into the Apple II days. There were a number of Apple II clones, all run out of business by the Apple legal team.
Also note the Apple Look-n-feel lawsuit. If Apple had won that one, Microsoft wouldn't have been allowed to produce Windows, nor would the X Window System be allowed to exist without paying heavy royalties to Apple. Apple essentially claimed they owned the GUI and claimed it in it's entirety as their own. It's ironic that Microsoft's legal dollars paid for the right for us all to use common GUI elements that otherwise would be Apple Computer property.
There is a LONG history of Free Software folks being strongly against Apple during the look-n-feel suit that seems to have been airbrushed away in recent years.
If we're not careful, within a few years Linux may be the 'free software that sucks' in computer labs around the world. Kids will go home and tell dad what NOT to get.
Yes, that's important to note. Spyglass was set up as a company to license the Mosaic codebase, in cooperating with UIUC where it was developed.
The Netscape folks just grabbed it, and hired away most of the development team, and gave NOTHING to UIUC. Because they could, and got away with it.
Subsequently, the deal didn't go 'well' for Spyglass because Microsoft elected to 'give IE away for free' and Spyglass as a result didn't get a very big 'percentage' amount, but at least Microsoft didn't outright STEAL the whole thing, which is what Netscape did.
The MS-DOS (PC-DOS, actually) that Microsoft bought and sold to IBM was usable, but just barely. I have a full copy (with manual) of IBM PC-DOS 1.0 and let's just say it's primative. There are some interesting 'features' like- you are REQUIRED to enter date and time at bootup. It won't let you just hit enter, as is the case with DOS 1.1 and later.
Still, it will run in an IBM PC with as little as 16K of RAM, which is fairly impressive.
It's interesting how many people I see 'soft pedaling' this because it's Apple Computer doing it.
If this was Microsoft doing this, there would already by 700 comments and the Slashdot site would be bogged down and unresponsive because of the fury.
This is dangerous stuff, folks. If this is a precedent, then all the employers of people who have contributed to the Linux kernal, and to various GPL's and BSD licensed products can step forward and claim their chunk of code, too.
It's dismaying that so many 'Apple Loyalists' have joined in on the Slashdot 'Anything Microsoft Does is Eeeevile but any other company is okay' choir. We don't need a 'new master, same as the old master' ascending to power, but some here seem to think it would be okay.
Wow. You've seen Bruce Peren's distorted version of history, too. That scary music they played in the background of 'Revolution OS' when talking about the Homebrew club was just awesome. Background music is always so important. It cues us about how we should think and feel.
The whole thing started when Microsoft produced a ROM-based BASIC language. It was used on a bunch of computer systems. There was also a Microsoft BASIC for CP/M. The CP/M community was notorious for buying one copy of each program per city/usergroup.
Bill Gates wrote a letter to them basically saying 'Come on, guys...' A letter that actually made a lot of sense.
Perens and the whole GNU/Unix/Hacker crowd weren't at all, in anyway, a part of that scene. They were hanging out on their greenscreens in an entire seperate part of the subculture.
Anyhow...
That's right. IE was started from an existing codebase. Microsoft licensed Spyglass Mosaic.
Netscape, on the other hand, was started by some vulture capitalists raiding the Mosaic team, closing the source, and running to the west coast with it all.
To be fair, minix is designed to be a toy version of Unix. It is mainly distributed on a CD in the cover of a textbook about Operating Systems.
Calling it a 'toy' really doesn't denigrate it at all. That's exactly what Andy Tanenbaum wants it to remain.
True, but Apache isn't Linux, nor GPL. And many installations are actually on windows, since apache 2.0.
Furthermore, Microsoft puts the focus of IIS on 'Workgroup Server' kind of stuff. Like deparmental websites within companies. Seamlessly editable web pages that the department manager can update using Word.
I doubt if they sweat bullets about the fact that a bunch of amateur sites on the Internet use Apache instead. Really, IIS isn't even focused on 'Pictures of Our Cats' websites.
Maybe they know that Linux has loadable kernal modules. I remember back when it didn't.
You didn't notice that yet??
Actually, the built in telnet client in Windows has gotten increasingly better with each version, from WFW 3.11 to W2K. The stupid bugs in Win 9x have disappeared and it's finally a clean text-mode app like it should be. Dunno about XP cuz I may never run it...
I thought Novell was the technology graveyard.
First they ignore you, then you think they're laughing at you, then you pretend they're attacking you, then you're a loser.