>> who is to blame for the declining enrollment of women in Computer Science
Blame? really? Last time I checked, people have a free choice as to what field they want to work/study in. If women choose not to do CS then its entirely their choice. No one is to blame.
Why is the ratio of men to women in CS even an issue? Its not intrinsically wrong that it mostly attracts men. Can we end this sexist crap please?
We just need to offer equal education opportunities to both genders and employ people based on merit not gender. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
If there's a shortage of CS grads for employers to hire then its a supply and demand problem not a gender issue. Employers will just have to suck it up and pay developers what they're worth in the free market. Oh noes! the horror! Who knows, that might even lead to more people choosing to do a CS degree. Problem solved.
I don';t think we're at the point where the GPU does everything yet. I suspect there's way more going on in the driver than just passing stuff to the GPU verbatim.
I've never had a problem with nVidia's drivers, both windows and Linux. They've always worked consistently and perfectly for me. Furthermore nVidia seems to make real effort to support all features they have in windows drivers, while ATI's Linux drivers have usually been a bare minimum version of what they have under windows. Even then, I have always had issues with ATI's Linux drivers. One of my laptops that had an ATI chipset wasn't even ever supported under Linux by ATI at all. I know linux isn't the most popular OS, but its use is pretty significant these days, and ATI ignoring that is ridiculous. Consequently I always make a point of ensuring any motherboard or laptop I get has nVidia embedded graphics rather than ATI, even though the majority of laptops seem to use ATI so its not always been easy. Would it be better if nVidia was altruistic enough to not use a blob and go fully opensource? Sure.. but I understand that in the real world companies sometimes have to protect their intellectual property. What really matters to me is my day-to-day use of the drivers, and on that count its been consistently nVidia 10/10 ATi 2/10 so am I really effected by the fact that I can't see the source? no.. its not like I'd ever want to hack on it. Disclaimer: I am in no way connected to nVidia other than as a happy customer.
I want to be able to get a command line, and be able to write and run my own apps on it without Microsofts permission. I also refuse to buy anything that implements DRM.
Whilst I am of course against child pornography, I get the feeling this isn't the real reason. Instead child-porn is now the catch-all excuse the FBI/NSA/CIA/whoever will use every time to try and legislate against any and all kinds of encryption, sharing or anonymising system that they can't get into.
No politician will stand up to defend our rights if it means they also risk being perceived as possibly defending child abuse.
I'm far more inclined to believe the real interest behind this is the RIAA/MPAA who want to make it impossible to anonymously share files at all and/or the gov itself who want to monitor every email, IM and keystroke we make online.
Sex IS fine, fun and healthy but I don't want to hear about sex organs in a damn song and/or at a business conference. Mostly because its a poor low-brow excuse for real entertainment because its based only on cheap shock value, which doesn't actually work because I'm not even slightly shocked anyway.
from wikipedia: Intelligent design was developed by a group of American creationists who revised their argument in the creationâ"evolution controversy to circumvent court rulings such as the United States Supreme Court Edwards v. Aguillard ruling,
It wasn't even developed for a religious reason, but as a lawyers trick to get around the legal system. Even the bible is contrary to ID. Personally I just take someone's belief in ID as a direct indicator of their low IQ.
The rest of the US economy just isn't a "free market" so you cause a massive imbalance by having one part of it being so.
As an immigrant to the US myself I can also tell you that your solution would get you an endless stream of people coming from economically poorer countries who's only plan is to come to the US for a year or two, live cheap and send the vast majority of their earnings back home i.e. out of the US economic system, then eventually move back home and live it up there as they are now relatively rich in their country.
The ongoing exporting of money from a country hurts its overall economy badly. Furthermore those people nearly always consider themselves temporary visitors out to take advantage of a fast buck, rather than well-meaning residents. Consequently the vast majority don't even try to integrate with or contribute to the local society in any way that a citizen or permanent resident (like me) would.
The net effect from the US economy perspective is all negative, plus it massively devalues our skillets as it gives employers yet another reason to believe they can pay peanuts and get away with it, at least in the short term.
I agree that In the context of this thread, religion vs evolution, that would be hard, but your statement that you can never prove a theory is just not true. There are many mathematical proofs and logical proofs for things that were originally theories.
umm what? My way you get one thats proved, with the possibility of others existing. Your way you have to consider every possible theory first and you still end up with one thats not itself been proved. I think I'll take my way thanks.
My own personal observation of others does seem to indicate a correlation between IQ and the ability/desire to think critically. I think I'll try and find if actual studies exist.
Not at all. I'm simply saying that if they didn;t consider that the theory of evolution was a serious threat to their own theories, they wouldn't be scared enough to try and supress it.
Look, I can quite happily accept that people have different theories, but I have real problems with people arrogant enough to think they need to stamp out anyone else thinking differently to them.
Anyone that tries to brainwash others with just unproven theories (of either side), and even worse, attempts to destroy all evidence of alternative thinking is operating to the significant detriment of society as a whole.
So let me get this traight... you have nothing intelligent to add to the actual argument itself, you're just ranting about how you should always ignore any statement that begins with those two words, because some other stuff that starts like that is usually crazy in your opinion?
I really don't see how being legally required to attend school and not church is any excuse for avoiding making a balanced statement that both evolution and creationism are both just theories.
Well I'd prefer the label rather than complete censorship. However the label is clearly and strongly biassed against evolution. Thats probably the actual reason why evolutionists 'had a fit', because it is apparently pushing a pro-creationist agenda. Why is the label singling out the evolution is a theory yet making no mention of creationism also being a theory? Any good book should read that both are in fact no more than theories, and educate the student in unbiassed way about both, then leave the student to make up their own mind in an informed way.
Anyone intelligent considers competing theories side by side until one is proved. Any good theory should be able to stand on its own merit.
The fact that creationists are apparently so threatened by the theory of evolution as to conduct radical acts of censorship is a clear indicator even they secretly acknowledge that evolution theory has substance.
By their own ill-conceived actions, creationists are making it self-evident that creationism must be no more than a logically inconsistent nursery tale who's only market are those with low enough IQ to not be able to reason.
Nice to know that even now, after Microsoft have been bitten so many times, it still hasn't occurred to them to do security auditing of at least the kernel API before they release it as a global product. And this is the company and product most businesses choose to trust? wow. and will be the authority for the trustable bootloader key.. again, wow.
I'm a Brit who emigrated to the US about 10 years ago. One thing I found very hard to get used to was that the taste of nearly all food in the US is sickeningly sweet. It makes it all taste the same as you can hardly even taste the natural flavor of the food itself. There's sugar (presumably actually corn syrup) in large quantities in EVERYTHING, even stuff thats meant to be natural or savory like vegetables, nuts or cheese. Most US bread tastes like cake to me, instead of wheaty or nutty like it does back home. You don't (re)notice until you leave and come back, but trust me the first couple of days of eating any food in the US tastes horrible. Then your get acclimatized as your taste buds and waistline get assimilated into the Corn Lobby collective's master plan.
Just by not buying Windows, Microsoft won't see they lost a sale.
Everyone go out and buy a copy of Windows 8, open the box so it can't be resold, then return it for a full refund with the reason that the EULA you can't see until you try to install it was an unacceptable attack on basic civil rights.
This is about the only way Microsoft would get a clear message and see how much its costing them.
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...because women and hard logic are such a natural mix.
>> who is to blame for the declining enrollment of women in Computer Science
Blame? really? Last time I checked, people have a free choice as to what field they want to work/study in. If women choose not to do CS then its entirely their choice. No one is to blame.
Why is the ratio of men to women in CS even an issue? Its not intrinsically wrong that it mostly attracts men. Can we end this sexist crap please?
There are plenty of professions that have a significant majority of women:
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/07/27/where-women-work/
I don't see any corresponding massive outcry about how to get more men in those fields.
We just need to offer equal education opportunities to both genders and employ people based on merit not gender. Positive discrimination is still discrimination.
If there's a shortage of CS grads for employers to hire then its a supply and demand problem not a gender issue. Employers will just have to suck it up and pay developers what they're worth in the free market. Oh noes! the horror! Who knows, that might even lead to more people choosing to do a CS degree. Problem solved.
I don';t think we're at the point where the GPU does everything yet. I suspect there's way more going on in the driver than just passing stuff to the GPU verbatim.
I've never had a problem with nVidia's drivers, both windows and Linux. They've always worked consistently and perfectly for me. Furthermore nVidia seems to make real effort to support all features they have in windows drivers, while ATI's Linux drivers have usually been a bare minimum version of what they have under windows.
Even then, I have always had issues with ATI's Linux drivers. One of my laptops that had an ATI chipset wasn't even ever supported under Linux by ATI at all. I know linux isn't the most popular OS, but its use is pretty significant these days, and ATI ignoring that is ridiculous.
Consequently I always make a point of ensuring any motherboard or laptop I get has nVidia embedded graphics rather than ATI, even though the majority of laptops seem to use ATI so its not always been easy.
Would it be better if nVidia was altruistic enough to not use a blob and go fully opensource? Sure.. but I understand that in the real world companies sometimes have to protect their intellectual property.
What really matters to me is my day-to-day use of the drivers, and on that count its been consistently nVidia 10/10 ATi 2/10 so am I really effected by the fact that I can't see the source? no.. its not like I'd ever want to hack on it.
Disclaimer: I am in no way connected to nVidia other than as a happy customer.
I want to be able to get a command line, and be able to write and run my own apps on it without Microsofts permission.
I also refuse to buy anything that implements DRM.
Whilst I am of course against child pornography, I get the feeling this isn't the real reason. Instead child-porn is now the catch-all excuse the FBI/NSA/CIA/whoever will use every time to try and legislate against any and all kinds of encryption, sharing or anonymising system that they can't get into.
No politician will stand up to defend our rights if it means they also risk being perceived as possibly defending child abuse.
I'm far more inclined to believe the real interest behind this is the RIAA/MPAA who want to make it impossible to anonymously share files at all and/or the gov itself who want to monitor every email, IM and keystroke we make online.
you don't lose all the nuts and bolts from the engine you're rebuilding on it.
Sex IS fine, fun and healthy but I don't want to hear about sex organs in a damn song and/or at a business conference.
Mostly because its a poor low-brow excuse for real entertainment because its based only on cheap shock value, which doesn't actually work because I'm not even slightly shocked anyway.
from wikipedia:
Intelligent design was developed by a group of American creationists who revised their argument in the creationâ"evolution controversy to circumvent court rulings such as the United States Supreme Court Edwards v. Aguillard ruling,
It wasn't even developed for a religious reason, but as a lawyers trick to get around the legal system.
Even the bible is contrary to ID.
Personally I just take someone's belief in ID as a direct indicator of their low IQ.
The theory of ID was created by the Discovery Institute which itself was only founded in 1990.
The wikipedia article on that organization makes interesting reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Institute
If you can read about them and still come away with the belief that ID is credible then you're certainly, err... unusual.
Typo: I meant skill-sets not skillets. :-)
You can never devalue the good ol' US bar-b-q
The rest of the US economy just isn't a "free market" so you cause a massive imbalance by having one part of it being so.
As an immigrant to the US myself I can also tell you that your solution would get you an endless stream of people coming from economically poorer countries who's only plan is to come to the US for a year or two, live cheap and send the vast majority of their earnings back home i.e. out of the US economic system, then eventually move back home and live it up there as they are now relatively rich in their country.
The ongoing exporting of money from a country hurts its overall economy badly. Furthermore those people nearly always consider themselves temporary visitors out to take advantage of a fast buck, rather than well-meaning residents. Consequently the vast majority don't even try to integrate with or contribute to the local society in any way that a citizen or permanent resident (like me) would.
The net effect from the US economy perspective is all negative, plus it massively devalues our skillets as it gives employers yet another reason to believe they can pay peanuts and get away with it, at least in the short term.
I agree that In the context of this thread, religion vs evolution, that would be hard, but your statement that you can never prove a theory is just not true. There are many mathematical proofs and logical proofs for things that were originally theories.
umm what?
My way you get one thats proved, with the possibility of others existing.
Your way you have to consider every possible theory first and you still end up with one thats not itself been proved.
I think I'll take my way thanks.
My own personal observation of others does seem to indicate a correlation between IQ and the ability/desire to think critically. I think I'll try and find if actual studies exist.
Not at all. I'm simply saying that if they didn;t consider that the theory of evolution was a serious threat to their own theories, they wouldn't be scared enough to try and supress it.
Look, I can quite happily accept that people have different theories, but I have real problems with people arrogant enough to think they need to stamp out anyone else thinking differently to them.
Anyone that tries to brainwash others with just unproven theories (of either side), and even worse, attempts to destroy all evidence of alternative thinking is operating to the significant detriment of society as a whole.
So let me get this traight... you have nothing intelligent to add to the actual argument itself, you're just ranting about how you should always ignore any statement that begins with those two words, because some other stuff that starts like that is usually crazy in your opinion?
I really don't see how being legally required to attend school and not church is any excuse for avoiding making a balanced statement that both evolution and creationism are both just theories.
Well I'd prefer the label rather than complete censorship.
However the label is clearly and strongly biassed against evolution. Thats probably the actual reason why evolutionists 'had a fit', because it is apparently pushing a pro-creationist agenda.
Why is the label singling out the evolution is a theory yet making no mention of creationism also being a theory?
Any good book should read that both are in fact no more than theories, and educate the student in unbiassed way about both, then leave the student to make up their own mind in an informed way.
Anyone intelligent considers competing theories side by side until one is proved. Any good theory should be able to stand on its own merit.
The fact that creationists are apparently so threatened by the theory of evolution as to conduct radical acts of censorship is a clear indicator even they secretly acknowledge that evolution theory has substance.
By their own ill-conceived actions, creationists are making it self-evident that creationism must be no more than a logically inconsistent nursery tale who's only market are those with low enough IQ to not be able to reason.
Nice to know that even now, after Microsoft have been bitten so many times, it still hasn't occurred to them to do security auditing of at least the kernel API before they release it as a global product.
And this is the company and product most businesses choose to trust? wow. and will be the authority for the trustable bootloader key.. again, wow.
Wow your obvious belief in such ridiculous stereotypes really underlines your ignorance about the world outside the US.
I'm a Brit who emigrated to the US about 10 years ago.
One thing I found very hard to get used to was that the taste of nearly all food in the US is sickeningly sweet. It makes it all taste the same as you can hardly even taste the natural flavor of the food itself.
There's sugar (presumably actually corn syrup) in large quantities in EVERYTHING, even stuff thats meant to be natural or savory like vegetables, nuts or cheese. Most US bread tastes like cake to me, instead of wheaty or nutty like it does back home.
You don't (re)notice until you leave and come back, but trust me the first couple of days of eating any food in the US tastes horrible.
Then your get acclimatized as your taste buds and waistline get assimilated into the Corn Lobby collective's master plan.
How on earth do you come up with fraud and harassment from just peacefully returning goods for a refund?
Just by not buying Windows, Microsoft won't see they lost a sale.
Everyone go out and buy a copy of Windows 8, open the box so it can't be resold, then return it for a full refund with the reason that the EULA you can't see until you try to install it was an unacceptable attack on basic civil rights.
This is about the only way Microsoft would get a clear message and see how much its costing them.