I'd be pissed if I found out that Tesla (or any other manufacturer) had been holding back stuff from me the owner that MY (i.e. NOT their) car can otherwise already do,
but I'd be seriously pissed enough to go to court if they ever remotely turned it off again without my express permission.
Its all hypothetical though because I'd never buy a Tesla for this and many other reasons like it.
The difference is that this is an obviously fake limitation that you're paying (again) to remove from hardware that you've already bought and own and therefore should be in complete control of.
This is basically Tesla making you pay twice for the same thing, and also not letting you control your own property.
For the UK to be bending over on this just shows what a bitch of the US they actually are. Any government with any actual balls would defend their sovereignty.
1) uninstall all those social media apps 2) disable notification from all but your 3 most important services. 3) Stop being a self-indulgent snowflake and get some control of yourself
Easy, The FDA board for approving new drugs is ptretty much entirely run and funded by (and therefore owned by) the big pharma companies. They will make sure only their version of the drug gets certified for human use, then they can charge whatever they like for it, and people with cancer WILL pay.
The Swiss are so straight-laced and such tight arseholes about everything, especially being green, that if you dare to drive 2 MPH over the ridiculously low speed limits that are all over Switzerland, you'll be instantly surrounded by cops and attack helicopters. I'm surprised they even still have word for farts.
You're probably at least partially right. No matter how good it is, I doubt that any country that still gets a large amount of revenue from coal would make this move.
Compared to all other forms of burning things to get power, coal is apparently by far the worst for emissions, so I still see this is a great positive move, regardless of the actual motives.
Yeah you can buy a flip phone etc but as far as I am aware even that doesn;t stop the phone company fro tracking you. My point is, when you have a reasonable choice to protect your privacy, you should take it. There are reasonable alternatives to Tesla. Buying a Toyota or something doesn't suddenly turn you into a hermit. And as far as I can tell, for all its down-sides, Tesla doesn't really offer significantly more in terms of connectivity or whatever anyway. I mean how much do you actually need to be connected anyway? especially if you already have a smart phone or whatever, whatever is built into your car is all just duplicate functionality that you're paying for unnecessarily.
Unlike cars, there aren't reasonable alternatives to most other thingslike phones etc that don't track you, unless (as you said) you want the equivalent of a hermit's life.
Pretty much all things you listed above, you pretty much can;t do without and have no alternative choice. Your case is different. The truth is, you can still buy a car that doesn't abuse you, but you freely chose not to. You made the choice to give Tesla a significant amount of your own money which sends them a very loud message that what they are doing is OK. All they (and GM) care about is the money. As long as people like keep buying their products, they will keep laughing. The fact that one customer in millions cut their car off really isn't "Sticking it to the man". One or 2 in millions is not even enough to get on their radar. If you wanna stop it then don't buy their shit, abusive products in the first place. If everyone did that instead of being sheep, then they would HAVE to play nice just to do business.
This. Totally. Well maybe not the "Cabin Boy2" part.
I love going to the movies, however it seems everything they have been offering up lately has been total trash. I mean every single movie. They literally all have the same 2 or 3 basic, low-brow and totally implausible plotlines.
Although I HAVE to see it just because I loved the original so much, I can already guaran-friking-tee from just watching the trailer that Bladerunner 2049 will be a total abortion. They have clearly lost the magic of the original movie and gone all "hollywood" on it.
I can already predict the whole movie: It will all be about fights and big explosions and some hot chick who wears a lot of tight clothing, and even though they have tons of amazing weaponry all through the movie, it will somehow all come down to an actual fist fight.where the good guy somehow wins out in the end just because he has more "heart", against the bad-guy who has both a massive tactical advantage and also fights dirty.
Yes it is. I don't even want the risk of someone (I don't care if its GM, a hacker or the state) even being able to remotely disable my car and do who knows what else to it.
You wouldn't buy a computer that only worked when you open a router port to allow the manufacturer full access/control to it, so why would you be OK with the logical equivalent when it relates to a car?
I also don't see why I should be obliged to pay for the hardware that GM/Tesla force on you and actually do use to snoop and control their customers. Whether they do or don't sell or share the data with others is irrelevant. I don't even want them having it.
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Anybody that believes Microsoft's claims that Windows is secure needs this reality check.
because no other government ever hounded people for being homosexuals right?
I'd be pissed if I found out that Tesla (or any other manufacturer) had been holding back stuff from me the owner that MY (i.e. NOT their) car can otherwise already do,
but I'd be seriously pissed enough to go to court if they ever remotely turned it off again without my express permission.
Its all hypothetical though because I'd never buy a Tesla for this and many other reasons like it.
The difference is that this is an obviously fake limitation that you're paying (again) to remove from hardware that you've already bought and own and therefore should be in complete control of.
This is basically Tesla making you pay twice for the same thing, and also not letting you control your own property.
> but somehow Elon Musk gets a pass.
Not from me he doesn;t. Just another perfect example of why Tesla wont ever get any of my money.
For the UK to be bending over on this just shows what a bitch of the US they actually are.
Any government with any actual balls would defend their sovereignty.
>> the UK as we know it may very well cease to exist
Thanks to all the peecee morons and all the immigrants, the UK I grew up in ceased to exist ages ago.
>> Accepting Equifax's help forfeits your right to sue
I can't believe that this is true. It may say that in the agreement but I seriously doubt that it's actually legal.
1) uninstall all those social media apps
2) disable notification from all but your 3 most important services.
3) Stop being a self-indulgent snowflake and get some control of yourself
Totally.
Wish I had mod points.
Easy, The FDA board for approving new drugs is ptretty much entirely run and funded by (and therefore owned by) the big pharma companies.
They will make sure only their version of the drug gets certified for human use, then they can charge whatever they like for it, and people with cancer WILL pay.
The Swiss are so straight-laced and such tight arseholes about everything, especially being green, that if you dare to drive 2 MPH over the ridiculously low speed limits that are all over Switzerland, you'll be instantly surrounded by cops and attack helicopters.
I'm surprised they even still have word for farts.
You're probably at least partially right. No matter how good it is, I doubt that any country that still gets a large amount of revenue from coal would make this move.
Compared to all other forms of burning things to get power, coal is apparently by far the worst for emissions, so I still see this is a great positive move, regardless of the actual motives.
Yeah you can buy a flip phone etc but as far as I am aware even that doesn;t stop the phone company fro tracking you.
My point is, when you have a reasonable choice to protect your privacy, you should take it.
There are reasonable alternatives to Tesla. Buying a Toyota or something doesn't suddenly turn you into a hermit. And as far as I can tell, for all its down-sides, Tesla doesn't really offer significantly more in terms of connectivity or whatever anyway. I mean how much do you actually need to be connected anyway? especially if you already have a smart phone or whatever, whatever is built into your car is all just duplicate functionality that you're paying for unnecessarily.
Unlike cars, there aren't reasonable alternatives to most other thingslike phones etc that don't track you, unless (as you said) you want the equivalent of a hermit's life.
Beats me, but I think you're right. Nice name by the way. I love JMJ.
40's already too old. I'm gonna say more like low 30's.
Welcome to the shallow, superficial world that you Millenials have created for yourselves.
Instagram? Isn't that just yet another facetube wannabe?
Pretty much all things you listed above, you pretty much can;t do without and have no alternative choice.
Your case is different.
The truth is, you can still buy a car that doesn't abuse you, but you freely chose not to. You made the choice to give Tesla a significant amount of your own money which sends them a very loud message that what they are doing is OK.
All they (and GM) care about is the money. As long as people like keep buying their products, they will keep laughing. The fact that one customer in millions cut their car off really isn't "Sticking it to the man". One or 2 in millions is not even enough to get on their radar. If you wanna stop it then don't buy their shit, abusive products in the first place. If everyone did that instead of being sheep, then they would HAVE to play nice just to do business.
Yes they do, its exactly because people like you wont stand up to them.
Sure but its telling that the music is what you said you liked, not the movie itself.
Yeah but youre just hoping they will continue to be nice, when technically they already should refuse you.
>> I see no reason to block GM's OnStar service.
Wow. Really? You're OK with them spying on you then?
>> I've locked Tesla out of my car... that won't be an option for the average person.
Exactly. And from what I've read, it is also now no longer an option for you to actually make a claim on your warranty. Yeah no thanks.
This. Totally. Well maybe not the "Cabin Boy2" part.
I love going to the movies, however it seems everything they have been offering up lately has been total trash. I mean every single movie. They literally all have the same 2 or 3 basic, low-brow and totally implausible plotlines.
Although I HAVE to see it just because I loved the original so much, I can already guaran-friking-tee from just watching the trailer that Bladerunner 2049 will be a total abortion. They have clearly lost the magic of the original movie and gone all "hollywood" on it.
I can already predict the whole movie: It will all be about fights and big explosions and some hot chick who wears a lot of tight clothing, and even though they have tons of amazing weaponry all through the movie, it will somehow all come down to an actual fist fight.where the good guy somehow wins out in the end just because he has more "heart", against the bad-guy who has both a massive tactical advantage and also fights dirty.
>> The problem isn't in having the tech built in
Yes it is. I don't even want the risk of someone (I don't care if its GM, a hacker or the state) even being able to remotely disable my car and do who knows what else to it.
You wouldn't buy a computer that only worked when you open a router port to allow the manufacturer full access/control to it, so why would you be OK with the logical equivalent when it relates to a car?
I also don't see why I should be obliged to pay for the hardware that GM/Tesla force on you and actually do use to snoop and control their customers. Whether they do or don't sell or share the data with others is irrelevant. I don't even want them having it.