> Not only does science not say whether god(s) exist or not, but science can never say whether god(s) exist.
Good, we agree about that much!
> How do you know that the outcome of scientific experiments isn't being manipulated by something outside the realm of physics?
I think most religious scientists probably believe in a creator who does not interfere in the everyday running of the universe. I can't speak for others though.
For the record, I am a scientist of sorts (PhD candidate in evolutionary computation) and I was the first and only kid in my religion class in school to say that I was an atheist.
> You have already acknowledged that your universe is not deterministic
Actually, quantum dynamics has already insisted on that point.
No, but neither is it unscientific. Is milk scientific? Is using Linux scientific? Is talking to my neighbour unscientific? Lots of things are neither.
Science does not say whether god(s) exist or not. That is ok, just like biology does not say whether heavy objects fall faster or not.
BTW, sorry for saying "idiot" - it makes me look like one.
The interesting thing here is that Richard Stallman's zealotry/passion (delete as appropriate) had the effect of improving something: "Stallman has learned that efforts to compile OpenOffice.org using the GNU Compiler for Java (GCJ) were close to success, and has amended the call to a request for help in continuing this work."
As opposed to the type of zealotry which some people say is killing Debian.
actually, they have been trying to educate people about this (i got a mail about it the other day from an isp) but someone's grandmother isn't going to read, understand, or put into effect the advice they give.
and btw: ireland is becoming very totalitarian, partly because the government just doesn't know how else to control us.
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> Not only does science not say whether god(s) exist or not, but science can never say whether god(s) exist.
Good, we agree about that much!
> How do you know that the outcome of scientific experiments isn't being manipulated by something outside the realm of physics?
I think most religious scientists probably believe in a creator who does not interfere in the everyday running of the universe. I can't speak for others though.
For the record, I am a scientist of sorts (PhD candidate in evolutionary computation) and I was the first and only kid in my religion class in school to say that I was an atheist.
> You have already acknowledged that your universe is not deterministic
Actually, quantum dynamics has already insisted on that point.
> Believing in god(s) is not scientific.
No, but neither is it unscientific. Is milk scientific? Is using Linux scientific? Is talking to my neighbour unscientific? Lots of things are neither.
Science does not say whether god(s) exist or not. That is ok, just like biology does not say whether heavy objects fall faster or not.
BTW, sorry for saying "idiot" - it makes me look like one.
>> I'm a physicist and I believe in God.
> Good thing you didn't describe yourself as a "scientist"
You idiot. Lots of respected physicists and scientists of other disciplines believe in God.
As opposed to the type of zealotry which some people say is killing Debian.
the article missed something. like content.
you can't, possibly, have written that with a straight face. can you?
ok, but how are they supposed to test all their parts together in advance of the "real" launch?
and btw: ireland is becoming very totalitarian, partly because the government just doesn't know how else to control us.