Klingon grammar warriors slay the dangling participle, derail the run-on sentence, and annihilate the subject-verb disagreement!
You think that's bad, in the original Okuna Klingon dictionary, they prattle on about there being a lack of a verb for 'to be'. Then, in 'Undiscovered Country', Chang rattles on about 'To be or not to be, THAT is the question' and later throws more Shakespear references 'from the original Klingon'. And they wonder why every series has a 'bible' to keep this shit straight...
Klingon is my favorite - fantastic language, especially to curse with.. Hu'tegh Ha'DIbaH petaQ bIHnuch QI'yaH!! It's like wiping your ass with a pine-cone, I love it.
Love the way you alluded to Matrix Reloaded.
Personally, I like John M Ford's version of Klingon, called 'klingonaase', 'the tool for the manipulation of the principle of klin'. 'Klingon' in klingonaase translates roughly to 'the one that embodies or possesses klin', aka, the 'warrior spirit'.
That only apply to the USA. In first world country they have socialized health insurance. The fact that everyone has access to healthcare benefit the whole society. Peoples are more productive and don't end up been a burden.
Research done in 'the rest of the world' can result in a cure for cancer because nobody beside american corporate overlord benefit from perpetual treatment. So if you pull your head out of your ass, you would see that there is hope.
Um, no, not really. There are several drugs developed outside the US that are illegal in the US. The original 'morning after' pill, for instance. Developed in Europe (France?), fell victim to 'Not Invented Here' syndrome here in the US and was never legalised. You think the FDA is going to greenlight something that wasn't designed and created here in the US? Something that a US pharm corporation can't profit from? That's just not the way it's done here. It's not the 'American way'.
Nice job blaming the victim. I bet you think Sasha Baron Cohan would deserve a shot to the nuts for wearing a pillow case to a meeting of black panthers.
The victims are politicians??? When'd this happen????
Cancer cures won't be marketted til cancer treatments stop being a cash cow. After all, they only work so well, then you get a relapse after remission so you get to buy the treatments again.
And they wonder why medical bankruptcies account for something like 75% of all personal bankruptcies in the US. That statistic alone tells me something is very very wrong with the system...
If you don't think that criminals are terrorists, then you must be a communist. Or at least a socialist.
Or be for the fluoridation of water and foreign substances being introduced into our precious bodily fluids.
Dammit, my tinfoil hat got ripped. Let me point this home-printed gun at you so I can take yours. Gotta keep the Martushians outta my head, ya know. The thorazine just ain't working anymore...
You don't need friends or relatives. I have hundreds of friends, but thousands of acquaintances who know who I am. Half might be willing to swear to it. The number I chose was arbitrary, but I'm sure a smaller number would work too.
Since this ID database is only for employment verification, I'll stick to that context.
In many industries the fake ID rate is going to be really high. And higher for specific jobs. If you take, for example, restaurant dishwashers, it is probably 25% are using fake IDs.
At the moment it's (reputedly) only going to be used for 'employment verification'. Every job I've held in the last 15 years has required me to show my driver's license, birth certificate, Social Security card, and DD-214 (I'm a veteran) to prove I'm a citizen and thus have the right to work in the US. Supposedly, the bosses had to file this info expressed as a Xerox copy of said documents to state and federal agencies. I never bothered asking which.
The question is, what else would this database be used for? You have this humongous database just sitting there. I'm sure some bright civil 'servant' will come up with all kinds of new uses for it to justify their paycheck...
That is an interesting one. As far as I understand it, they did not steal from individuals, but from the bank. Off course this is the same as grabbing from someone else's savings, but so is fractional reserve banking. So in a way, if your bank does it, it is normal, if someone else does it, all of a sudden it is criminal.
Pretty much, yeah. After all, you're cutting into the multimillion dollar salary and bonus plan of some bank bigwig. They take that shit kinda serious ya know...
I am amused at how RINO is a commonly-expressed acronym in American politics, yet DINO is not. Not only does it reinforce the stereotype of the strictly-regulated lockstep political machine the Republicans have become, wherein any dissenting thought is quickly labeled so it can be shamed with the "RINO" name, but it also helps demolish any lingering illusion of the "big tent" theory the party thinks it's fooling anyone into believing.
Hell, if you're a Republican (I am) and believe that hurricanes are caused by high barometric pressure (I do) and not gay marriage (I don't), then you, too, are a RINO. If you are a Republican and don't believe that angels counsel Republican candidates for high office (I don't), you are a RINO. If you are a Republican and don't believe that English as spoken in the US can be reduced down to the phrase 'America! FUCK YEAH!!" (I don't), you are a RINO. If you are a Republican who believes that ONLY the Republican Party should hold office now and forever (I don't), then you are a good rank and file member and not a RINO like me.
Our elected officials have the duty to govern in the interests of the people who elected them, not claim a mandate to neuter the opposition and obstruct anything the Opposition comes up with. Funny how both parties seem to forget that these days.
Depends on how it's framed. If they write the bill so it's all about finding out who orders Telemundo so they can be deported I think it would get a lot of support.
Reason I bring this up is, my Arizona driver's license was issued over 10 years ago when I moved back home, and isn't due for renewal for another 8 years. Typically, you get your 'permenant' license at 21 here and it expires when you hit 65. Address changes are printed on a little sticker they put on the back. They reissue them for women who get married and take their husband's name at a prorated cost. 40+ years of wear on a piece of plastic kept in a wallet? Serious fade even after 10 years.
They actually want you to replace your license every 10-15 years, or something like that -- they sent me a letter recently saying that I needed to get my license updated with a more recent picture. Not sure why they don't just call that an "expiration date" -- maybe because you don't have to do anything to prove that you can still drive when getting your picture updated.
They want you to 'renew' it, but you don't have to.
such a huge system will *ever* get implemented? The Feds have a long and sucky track record of managing huge IT projects that explode in budget and go down in flames a decade later.
Thus, I'm not worried.
That's because they end up skimming the cash off to help fund porkbarrel projects in pet Senators' states.
Yeah, I remember handing over drivers license last time I bought a gun. Had to fill out a bunch of paper work too that was totally pointless. They should have been able to scan the card and get a response way faster. I think it was faxed or something instead.
And if somebody accidentally clicked on your name on a no-fly list, you're fucked under this new system. Ever try to get the government to correct any mistake?
In Virginia, IDs are now required. Strangely, the minorities in line with me had IDs too.
And no, the ID requirement isn't racist per se, it's just a happy coincidence of generally disenfranchising the people who will (statistically, speaking) vote against you.
You mean dead people?
There are ways to do it and ways to do it. Last election, all I had to do was show my voter registration card showing that yes, I am a registered voter in my county. They didn't ask for my photo ID. And yes, they checked the little box by my name in the book of computer printouts for my district. Could somebody else have used my card? Maybe. But 'I' would only get one ballot to vote on.
I was going to say this as well. Names, ages, faces, social #? This is all stuff the government already has. You tell them more on your tax return than this database would have (at least according to TFS; Wired bugs out on my work comp for some reason).
Moreover, I wouldn't believe all the "mission creep" fuss. We've had Photo IDs for how long, now? This is literally the exact same thing. It's just on a centralized database instead of a card in your wallet. Any concerns of Big Brother database-tampering to frame you for a crime are equally weighted with the benefits of fewer fake IDs.
OK, so the need to crack down on the 0.00001% of fake ids out there requires 100% compliance in a monolithic database? What happens if the data gets corrupted? Say, good old fashioned 'bit rot' as we used to call it back in the day, not necessarily an active effort to manipulate the data? Where's the backup plan in place? What happens if the system goes down during the backup and corrupts not only the current data but the backup(s) as well? What happens if the database is offline when you need to verify your identity to get on a plane, withdraw some cash from your ATM to pay your rent/groceries/whatever, renew your license at 4:45pm on a Friday, get updated car insurance at said 4:45pm on a Friday, cast your vote?
Now let's look at the absolute worst case scenario, the real tinfoil hat brigade stuff. What happens if a political party decides they want to stay in power and delete/alter the records of enough registered voters of the opposition party to make sure that happens? Hell, they gerrymander districts now. A few people in the right place can alter the records to ensure that anybody voting for Party X gets swept up for voter fraud long enough for Party Z to get into power and stay there. If it's all on a computer it can get manipulated; that's what computers are for. Will they provide provisions to set aside an election to verify everything went down nice and kosher, or will they Florida it like they did with the hanging chad? These kind of questions should be asked. If you say you're going to protect the people, you damned well better at least glance at issues such as these as they will come up.
That's really kind of an emotional reaction. There's a lot of value in having a way to undeniably prove your identity in the eyes of the law. It could help a lot with identity theft and identification wipe-out(like your house burning down). I don't think the benefits outweigh the costs in this case, but not everything that represents more information is bad.
Agreed, there are circumstances you may need an indeniable way to prove your identity. What happens, though, if your driver's license gets old and worn and the scanner can't pick up the proper reference points on the picture and the mag strip on back is worn out to an unreadable state? You can't prove your identity then. An RFID chip implanted on you someplace? It'd have to be reprogrammable, and being reprogrammable without it being removed means it's vulnerable to, shall we say, 'unauthorised reprogramming by non-State entities', as well as being capable of being read by said unauthorised non-State entities for purposes of their own.
Reason I bring this up is, my Arizona driver's license was issued over 10 years ago when I moved back home, and isn't due for renewal for another 8 years. Typically, you get your 'permenant' license at 21 here and it expires when you hit 65. Address changes are printed on a little sticker they put on the back. They reissue them for women who get married and take their husband's name at a prorated cost. 40+ years of wear on a piece of plastic kept in a wallet? Serious fade even after 10 years.
Now, watch this: The rate of firearm-related deaths per capita [wikipedia.org] is 10.23 in the US and 0.25 in the UK. The only countries (of the 75 listed) with higher rates than the US are: Panama, Mexico, Columbia, South Africa, Brazil, Swaziland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Jamaica. Interestingly, the country with the lowest rate, Japan, has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world [google.com]. Of course, I'm not suggesting a causal relationship, but I will point out that the presence of a gun is a prerequisite to any form of gun violence.
Kinda hard to have gun-related deaths in societies that actively ban guns, you know. Got any stats on non-gun-related violent deaths in those countries? The numbers would probably surprise you as people tend to use weapons of opportunity.
Sure, here you go. (Hint: its still a factor of four or five higher, depending on if you include Eastern Europe.) And yes, in fact, it's impossible to have gun violence without guns, which is why they should be licensed and registered and people should have to have background checks and pass competency tests to own them.
We already have gun registration and background checks (unless you cop an AK off the street or at a gunshow), what the normal everyday citizen needs is a bit of training in gun handling if he intends to exercise his 2nd Ammendment rights.
Hell, give everybody in the US a few weeks of military training while we're at it. Some time crawling through the mud, blood and puke would give the chickenhawks an idea of what they're asking our kids to put up with.
Now, watch this: The rate of firearm-related deaths per capita [wikipedia.org] is 10.23 in the US and 0.25 in the UK. The only countries (of the 75 listed) with higher rates than the US are: Panama, Mexico, Columbia, South Africa, Brazil, Swaziland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Jamaica. Interestingly, the country with the lowest rate, Japan, has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world [google.com]. Of course, I'm not suggesting a causal relationship, but I will point out that the presence of a gun is a prerequisite to any form of gun violence.
Kinda hard to have gun-related deaths in societies that actively ban guns, you know. Got any stats on non-gun-related violent deaths in those countries? The numbers would probably surprise you as people tend to use weapons of opportunity.
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Klingon grammar warriors slay the dangling participle, derail the run-on sentence, and annihilate the subject-verb disagreement!
You think that's bad, in the original Okuna Klingon dictionary, they prattle on about there being a lack of a verb for 'to be'. Then, in 'Undiscovered Country', Chang rattles on about 'To be or not to be, THAT is the question' and later throws more Shakespear references 'from the original Klingon'. And they wonder why every series has a 'bible' to keep this shit straight...
Klingon is my favorite - fantastic language, especially to curse with.. Hu'tegh Ha'DIbaH petaQ bIHnuch QI'yaH!! It's like wiping your ass with a pine-cone, I love it.
Love the way you alluded to Matrix Reloaded.
Personally, I like John M Ford's version of Klingon, called 'klingonaase', 'the tool for the manipulation of the principle of klin'. 'Klingon' in klingonaase translates roughly to 'the one that embodies or possesses klin', aka, the 'warrior spirit'.
It's friday, have a sense of humor : )
Sorry, I'm a Republican (or at least a RINO, according to the current party structure), my sense of humor was surgically removed.
That only apply to the USA. In first world country they have socialized health insurance. The fact that everyone has access to healthcare benefit the whole society. Peoples are more productive and don't end up been a burden.
Research done in 'the rest of the world' can result in a cure for cancer because nobody beside american corporate overlord benefit from perpetual treatment. So if you pull your head out of your ass, you would see that there is hope.
Um, no, not really. There are several drugs developed outside the US that are illegal in the US. The original 'morning after' pill, for instance. Developed in Europe (France?), fell victim to 'Not Invented Here' syndrome here in the US and was never legalised. You think the FDA is going to greenlight something that wasn't designed and created here in the US? Something that a US pharm corporation can't profit from? That's just not the way it's done here. It's not the 'American way'.
Nice job blaming the victim. I bet you think Sasha Baron Cohan would deserve a shot to the nuts for wearing a pillow case to a meeting of black panthers.
The victims are politicians??? When'd this happen????
It's the same guy that proposed a ban on videogames to minors. Leland Yee: using the government to protect you from bogeymen that don't exist.
Sounds like he's aiming for a spot on Faux Newz when he 'retires' from politicking...
Cancer cures won't be marketted til cancer treatments stop being a cash cow. After all, they only work so well, then you get a relapse after remission so you get to buy the treatments again.
And they wonder why medical bankruptcies account for something like 75% of all personal bankruptcies in the US. That statistic alone tells me something is very very wrong with the system...
If you don't think that criminals are terrorists, then you must be a communist. Or at least a socialist.
Or be for the fluoridation of water and foreign substances being introduced into our precious bodily fluids.
Dammit, my tinfoil hat got ripped. Let me point this home-printed gun at you so I can take yours. Gotta keep the Martushians outta my head, ya know. The thorazine just ain't working anymore...
You don't need friends or relatives. I have hundreds of friends, but thousands of acquaintances who know who I am. Half might be willing to swear to it. The number I chose was arbitrary, but I'm sure a smaller number would work too.
Facebook friends don't count.
Since this ID database is only for employment verification, I'll stick to that context.
In many industries the fake ID rate is going to be really high. And higher for specific jobs. If you take, for example, restaurant dishwashers, it is probably 25% are using fake IDs.
At the moment it's (reputedly) only going to be used for 'employment verification'. Every job I've held in the last 15 years has required me to show my driver's license, birth certificate, Social Security card, and DD-214 (I'm a veteran) to prove I'm a citizen and thus have the right to work in the US. Supposedly, the bosses had to file this info expressed as a Xerox copy of said documents to state and federal agencies. I never bothered asking which.
The question is, what else would this database be used for? You have this humongous database just sitting there. I'm sure some bright civil 'servant' will come up with all kinds of new uses for it to justify their paycheck...
Ah, see? I can tell you're a republican. Hurricanes are a result of low barometric pressure...
So you're saying, in essence, that hurricanes happen because the weather sucks? As a Republican, I must take offense at that. :D
That is an interesting one. As far as I understand it, they did not steal from individuals, but from the bank. Off course this is the same as grabbing from someone else's savings, but so is fractional reserve banking. So in a way, if your bank does it, it is normal, if someone else does it, all of a sudden it is criminal.
Pretty much, yeah. After all, you're cutting into the multimillion dollar salary and bonus plan of some bank bigwig. They take that shit kinda serious ya know...
WGN might be a little too stimulating for you though...
Yeah, too much Matlock isn't good for you.
I am amused at how RINO is a commonly-expressed acronym in American politics, yet DINO is not. Not only does it reinforce the stereotype of the strictly-regulated lockstep political machine the Republicans have become, wherein any dissenting thought is quickly labeled so it can be shamed with the "RINO" name, but it also helps demolish any lingering illusion of the "big tent" theory the party thinks it's fooling anyone into believing.
Hell, if you're a Republican (I am) and believe that hurricanes are caused by high barometric pressure (I do) and not gay marriage (I don't), then you, too, are a RINO. If you are a Republican and don't believe that angels counsel Republican candidates for high office (I don't), you are a RINO. If you are a Republican and don't believe that English as spoken in the US can be reduced down to the phrase 'America! FUCK YEAH!!" (I don't), you are a RINO. If you are a Republican who believes that ONLY the Republican Party should hold office now and forever (I don't), then you are a good rank and file member and not a RINO like me.
Our elected officials have the duty to govern in the interests of the people who elected them, not claim a mandate to neuter the opposition and obstruct anything the Opposition comes up with. Funny how both parties seem to forget that these days.
Depends on how it's framed. If they write the bill so it's all about finding out who orders Telemundo so they can be deported I think it would get a lot of support.
Especially in Arizona.
Reason I bring this up is, my Arizona driver's license was issued over 10 years ago when I moved back home, and isn't due for renewal for another 8 years. Typically, you get your 'permenant' license at 21 here and it expires when you hit 65. Address changes are printed on a little sticker they put on the back. They reissue them for women who get married and take their husband's name at a prorated cost. 40+ years of wear on a piece of plastic kept in a wallet? Serious fade even after 10 years.
They actually want you to replace your license every 10-15 years, or something like that -- they sent me a letter recently saying that I needed to get my license updated with a more recent picture. Not sure why they don't just call that an "expiration date" -- maybe because you don't have to do anything to prove that you can still drive when getting your picture updated.
They want you to 'renew' it, but you don't have to.
such a huge system will *ever* get implemented? The Feds have a long and sucky track record of managing huge IT projects that explode in budget and go down in flames a decade later.
Thus, I'm not worried.
That's because they end up skimming the cash off to help fund porkbarrel projects in pet Senators' states.
Yeah, I remember handing over drivers license last time I bought a gun. Had to fill out a bunch of paper work too that was totally pointless. They should have been able to scan the card and get a response way faster. I think it was faxed or something instead.
And if somebody accidentally clicked on your name on a no-fly list, you're fucked under this new system. Ever try to get the government to correct any mistake?
In Virginia, IDs are now required. Strangely, the minorities in line with me had IDs too.
And no, the ID requirement isn't racist per se, it's just a happy coincidence of generally disenfranchising the people who will (statistically, speaking) vote against you.
You mean dead people?
There are ways to do it and ways to do it. Last election, all I had to do was show my voter registration card showing that yes, I am a registered voter in my county. They didn't ask for my photo ID. And yes, they checked the little box by my name in the book of computer printouts for my district. Could somebody else have used my card? Maybe. But 'I' would only get one ballot to vote on.
I was going to say this as well. Names, ages, faces, social #? This is all stuff the government already has. You tell them more on your tax return than this database would have (at least according to TFS; Wired bugs out on my work comp for some reason).
Moreover, I wouldn't believe all the "mission creep" fuss. We've had Photo IDs for how long, now? This is literally the exact same thing. It's just on a centralized database instead of a card in your wallet. Any concerns of Big Brother database-tampering to frame you for a crime are equally weighted with the benefits of fewer fake IDs.
OK, so the need to crack down on the 0.00001% of fake ids out there requires 100% compliance in a monolithic database? What happens if the data gets corrupted? Say, good old fashioned 'bit rot' as we used to call it back in the day, not necessarily an active effort to manipulate the data? Where's the backup plan in place? What happens if the system goes down during the backup and corrupts not only the current data but the backup(s) as well? What happens if the database is offline when you need to verify your identity to get on a plane, withdraw some cash from your ATM to pay your rent/groceries/whatever, renew your license at 4:45pm on a Friday, get updated car insurance at said 4:45pm on a Friday, cast your vote?
Now let's look at the absolute worst case scenario, the real tinfoil hat brigade stuff. What happens if a political party decides they want to stay in power and delete/alter the records of enough registered voters of the opposition party to make sure that happens? Hell, they gerrymander districts now. A few people in the right place can alter the records to ensure that anybody voting for Party X gets swept up for voter fraud long enough for Party Z to get into power and stay there. If it's all on a computer it can get manipulated; that's what computers are for. Will they provide provisions to set aside an election to verify everything went down nice and kosher, or will they Florida it like they did with the hanging chad? These kind of questions should be asked. If you say you're going to protect the people, you damned well better at least glance at issues such as these as they will come up.
And when this database is breached and suddenly you find that YOU aren't you?
Then you get sued by some corporation for unauthorised use of your own genetics.
Four cases of voter fraud in a decade? Send your county officials to Chicago, let the Machine teach them how to do it right.
That's really kind of an emotional reaction. There's a lot of value in having a way to undeniably prove your identity in the eyes of the law. It could help a lot with identity theft and identification wipe-out(like your house burning down). I don't think the benefits outweigh the costs in this case, but not everything that represents more information is bad.
Agreed, there are circumstances you may need an indeniable way to prove your identity. What happens, though, if your driver's license gets old and worn and the scanner can't pick up the proper reference points on the picture and the mag strip on back is worn out to an unreadable state? You can't prove your identity then. An RFID chip implanted on you someplace? It'd have to be reprogrammable, and being reprogrammable without it being removed means it's vulnerable to, shall we say, 'unauthorised reprogramming by non-State entities', as well as being capable of being read by said unauthorised non-State entities for purposes of their own.
Reason I bring this up is, my Arizona driver's license was issued over 10 years ago when I moved back home, and isn't due for renewal for another 8 years. Typically, you get your 'permenant' license at 21 here and it expires when you hit 65. Address changes are printed on a little sticker they put on the back. They reissue them for women who get married and take their husband's name at a prorated cost. 40+ years of wear on a piece of plastic kept in a wallet? Serious fade even after 10 years.
Now, watch this: The rate of firearm-related deaths per capita [wikipedia.org] is 10.23 in the US and 0.25 in the UK. The only countries (of the 75 listed) with higher rates than the US are: Panama, Mexico, Columbia, South Africa, Brazil, Swaziland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Jamaica. Interestingly, the country with the lowest rate, Japan, has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world [google.com]. Of course, I'm not suggesting a causal relationship, but I will point out that the presence of a gun is a prerequisite to any form of gun violence.
Kinda hard to have gun-related deaths in societies that actively ban guns, you know. Got any stats on non-gun-related violent deaths in those countries? The numbers would probably surprise you as people tend to use weapons of opportunity.
Sure, here you go. (Hint: its still a factor of four or five higher, depending on if you include Eastern Europe.) And yes, in fact, it's impossible to have gun violence without guns, which is why they should be licensed and registered and people should have to have background checks and pass competency tests to own them.
We already have gun registration and background checks (unless you cop an AK off the street or at a gunshow), what the normal everyday citizen needs is a bit of training in gun handling if he intends to exercise his 2nd Ammendment rights.
Hell, give everybody in the US a few weeks of military training while we're at it. Some time crawling through the mud, blood and puke would give the chickenhawks an idea of what they're asking our kids to put up with.
Now, watch this: The rate of firearm-related deaths per capita [wikipedia.org] is 10.23 in the US and 0.25 in the UK. The only countries (of the 75 listed) with higher rates than the US are: Panama, Mexico, Columbia, South Africa, Brazil, Swaziland, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Jamaica. Interestingly, the country with the lowest rate, Japan, has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world [google.com]. Of course, I'm not suggesting a causal relationship, but I will point out that the presence of a gun is a prerequisite to any form of gun violence.
Kinda hard to have gun-related deaths in societies that actively ban guns, you know. Got any stats on non-gun-related violent deaths in those countries? The numbers would probably surprise you as people tend to use weapons of opportunity.