A GMO with an artificial chromosome would not be able to possibly pass on the new genes to wild plants, as it is in effect a new species. There can be no recombination of chromosomes during sexual reproduction (ie pollen) when the two parents do not have the same number of chromosomes.
Depends on whether the chromosome or gene counts have radically changed. If you just swap out genes on a one-to-one basis, it won't be a new species and would be able to interbreed with the nonmodified parent. If you tack on a pair of chromosomes, then yeah, I'd say you have a new species on your hands that won't interbreed with the nonmodified parent.
No it's not the same. Genetic Engineering involves manipulating genes in such a way that the original plant would likely not have evolved. What you have described is natural selection. We select those plants that have desired traits.
Selective breeding is still genetic manipulation. You select the specimens with the proper genetic background based on what you see as a desirable trait and allow only that gene line to reproduce. The two differences are, first, you don't have to go directly into the cells to carve on the genes, and two, it takes a lot longer to reduce the gene pool to reliably return the results you want. As in, on the order of centuries in some cases.
The 'natural selection' by selective breeding just isn't there. Don't believe me? Take a look at 'Indian corn', which is still fairly close to the original maize gene pool, compared to pre-GMO sweet corn. They produced the first sweet corns by selective breeding, evolving it to something that likely wouldn't have evolved in nature.
It could only take over from wild varieties if the manipulation gave an evolutionary advantage in the wild.
I'll be happy when they come up with a breed of corn that will grow out here in Arizona with minimal watering. Corn's pretty water-intensive, and it doesn't really like the heat out here either...
One seed can germinate to a corn plant. The corn cob has many new seeds on it. Thus, your crop does not 'half' every year. If there's 200 seeds per cob, you can pick the best 3 or 4 cobs for planting, and eat the rest. You'll still have a good crop next year.
I spent like 25 years living in Cleveland. We know 'Dennis the Menace'. He kept Cleveland electric bills a bit lower by NOT selling Muni Light out to CEI and rigging the deal to where CEI had to provide Muni Light with electricity at a discount. Fun guy, but constantly had run-ins with the head of the City Council, 'King George'.
On the plus side, at least the Cuyahoga didn't catch fire and spark up his hair like it did to Ralph Pirk.
The next election, of course. Even though Dodd has told the Elections Committee he's not running for Senate in '10, that's just because he's trying for president in '08. Doesn't have a hope in Hell of getting the nod, though.
A lot of the reason Democratic Party politicians voted for such abominations as the USA PATRIOT Act & the bill to authorise the Iraq War is simple. They vote against it for whatever reason, the Repubican spin machine shithammers them in the next election cycle with "Hey, this guy wants the terrerrerrerrists to win, he voted AGAINST The President and your security. Vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Interesting that said Democratic senator is running for president in '08.
He's got an interesting record. First votes for the Iraq War, then against it ever since. Voted against the Vitter Amendment which, if I'm reading it right, says you cannot confiscate legally-owned firearms in a disaster area and leave the lawful inhabitants helpless. Wants marijuana decriminalised. Took lots of money from Enron, among others.
Not the greatest candidate in the race, but by far not the worst either. I'm wondering about his motivation here.
Regardless I would always allow the police access to my house to search it without a warrant to help them in an investigation. However if I had the keys to me neighbor's house I wouldn't give the police access to that house as it would infringe on someone else's privacy. Perhaps you shouldn't be so willing to give up the constitutionally protected privacy of others.
Personally, I wanna see that warrant first. Show me the warrant, signed by the judge, examined by my lawyer, and I have no probs with it. No warrant? So sorry.
I'm just curious when refusing to allow a search of my property without a warrant will get me arrested for obstruction of 'justice'...
Since NTSC countries record TV programs at 29.97 and EURO zone TV programs record programs for 25fps there is an inherent problem with requiring either one of the other group to finalize on a different standard. The end result is something that just doesn't look right. The 'better' compromise would be to force support for both standards going ahead in the future or drop both standards and use film's standard 24fps =)
Or do what I did when I got a couple PAL DVDs here in the states. 89679 to avi, convert to whatever at will.
That post was from memory. As of the mid-70's (pretty much when I stopped watching the space program), the Russians weren't admitting anything other than successful missions. To get any info on them at the time, you hadda go talk with your friendly local CIA analyst.
Sorry, but in our democracy you haven't committed a felony unless you've been found guilty of committing a felony. And, the impeachment vote FAILED. His law license was suspended for misleading testimony, that's as far as it went.
Um, no. You don't need a felony conviction to have committed a felony. Look at that 'second strike' registration they tried instituting in Ohio for priests whose crimes were past the statute of limitations. They still had committed felonies. They just couldn't be convicted of felonies. It doesn't make the deed "didn't happen". Tell that to the victims involved. Then duck, some of them might be armed.
The impeachment vote failed because everybody voted along party lines. By all rights, every single goddamned one of them shoulda lost their reelection, but it's an imperfect world we live in. So be it.
Firstly, you're insane or ignorant if you think the Watergate Hearings were some sort of witch hunt. I suggest you read some transcripts of the Nixon archive tapes before regurgitating that BS. Nixon decided to leave office when his OWN PARTY told him the game was over. I wish he still would have been criminally prosecuted for his REAL abuses of the Constitution.
OK, where'd I say that going after Nixon was a witch hunt? I didn't. Thank you for playing.
Nixon was a thug. But was he guilty of masterminding the Watergate breakins? Dunno, don't care. At the end of the day, he took the hit and resigned, saying it didn't matter if he did or didn't, what mattered was he was responsible for the actions of his staff. Did he know ahead of time? Again, dunno, don't care. I happen to agree with him that he was responsible for the actions of his staff. And yeah, if he would have fought it, he should have been impeached. He chose to step down for the good of the country. So be it.
Secondly, steering a Senate investigation into a President's extramarital affair is damned straight a witch hunt, especially in the context of the "Arkansas Group" and the BS Troopergate story. And, the Clinton impeachment vote wasn't along party lines. Even some Republicans weren't stupid enough to vote for it.
The Senate trial wasn't about extramarital sex. It was about perjury. The Democrats keep spinning that it's all about the sex, and blow off the perjury by claiming oral sex isn't sex and neither are cigars when used as sex toys. It wasn't about the sex. It was about the lying about the sex under oath during a trial. It was about the attitude he had that as president, he was above the law, and couldn't be touched, couldn't be sued, couldn't be prosecuted. Per the Constitution, he's a citizen that holds the office, nothing special. And no citizen is above the law, irregardless of political affiliation. That includes Nixon, that includes Clinton, and that includes Bush.
Third, Clinton didn't perjure himself. Go research the Clinton perjury myth.
Well, I'm no expert on the sex laws of Washington DC, but if they're anything similar to what's still on the books but never prosecuted in the Deep South, oral sex is a count of sodomy, good for some prison time. So is inserting any object into a woman's genetalia. Adultry is just a civil offense, good for forking over a significant amount of your paychecks for the next zillion years as well as getting the privilege of paying for a house you're not allowed to live in.
But thanks for rehashing the same uninformed myths about our political history that reveal the widespread ignorance that gets us into debacles like Iraq.
And thank you for respinning the myth that if Bush is evilevilevil then the Clintons are saints. They're not. At best they're the lesser of two evils. Problem of course is, the lesser of two evils is STILL evil.
I find 2 things interesting. First, I get a 404 File Not Found on that link. Second, the name of the file, gop-targeting-clinton-on-phone-call-snooping-2007-10-16.html, which highly suggests a Republican hatchet job coming out just in time to smear the elections before the campaign season gets fully underway. Kind of reminds me of 'the Arkansas Project' where the GOP went digging for dirt against Clinton in an effort to knock him out of office.
The Democrats are hardly innocents, either. St Hillary was Democratic counsel to the Watergate Hearings when they tried to oust Nixon and was so fired up on getting an impeachment rammed through she couldn't see straight. Strange that when Bill came under the gun for perjury she was the first to cry 'Witch hunt'.
While I have no problems with politicians indulging in extramarital sex while in office, I do have a problem when they commit perjury about it. Perjury is a felony, plain and simple. Bill was under oath both times. He lied once. For perjury, once is enough. The impeachment trial was a sham, everybody knew the vote would come down along party lines, politics overriding the issue, which made any possible impeachment of Bush for unconstitutional powergrabs out of the question, the spin being 'We went after your boy, you're just wanting revenge'. A shocking display of American politics at its worst.
What I'd love to see, and I know it's just wishful thinking, is a few real candidates for this goaround. Ain't gonna happen, though. Real candidates haven't won an election since Ike.
I'm thinking it's relatively close to even. We lost 3 on the pad (early Apollo, where we learned that a full oxygen mix in a capsual with burnable stuff in it is Almost A Good Idea), & a pair of crewed space shuttles. Officially, the Russians haven't lost anybody but rumor around the water cooler is, they lost a couple when they couldn't deorbit a capsual in time and the cosmonauts ran out of oxygen, couple died on the pad in explosions, and a couple parachute failures pancaked a couple Vostoks into the Siberian tundra.
I can tell you that the day I or anyone I need to travel with winds up on that "DUBBL SUPAR SEKRIT!" list is the day I look in to leaving for Canada.
Except by then, it'll be too late. There's about 750,000 on the 'watch list'. Nobody knows how they got on it, or how to get off it. One might suggest that a lot of irate neighbors called the Feds and got some of them put on. Hey, it's job security for TSA & DHS...
Ashcroft advocated a program to get 1 in every 50 Americans as a paid informant to the government. Sanity abounded at the time, and it got shot down. Makes you wonder whyat they came up with in its place. After all, most of the USA PATRIOT Act was shot down for years as parts of other bills before raked up and shoveled at Congress in the form of USA PATRIOT Act. And the Real ID provision of an $80b (yes, 80 BILLION) appropriations bill, tailgated onto the main legislation to provide body armor to troops in Iraq, had been shot down since the 60's as 'The Greatest Generation' kept telling people, "Hey, that's why we fought WW2, dammit! NO!". As an aside, my nephew came back from Iraq a year ago as a combat medic, and nobody'd seen the body armor that appropriation was to supply THREE years ago.
No, when the airlines start bleeding profits like a sieve, Congress will pass a law giving them some of your tax dollars as a subsidy, like they did with the savings & loans industry.
Which makes me wonder wtf ever happened to an armed air marshall on every flight back in the 70's & 80's to stop hijackings. Or the requirement way back then to keep that cockpit door LOCKED any time any passenger was onboard the plane. Come to think of it, howcome the aircraft designers didn't do the design so that cockpit crew had ZERO access to the body of the plane and their own seperate crew door?
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Depends on whether the chromosome or gene counts have radically changed. If you just swap out genes on a one-to-one basis, it won't be a new species and would be able to interbreed with the nonmodified parent. If you tack on a pair of chromosomes, then yeah, I'd say you have a new species on your hands that won't interbreed with the nonmodified parent.
Selective breeding is still genetic manipulation. You select the specimens with the proper genetic background based on what you see as a desirable trait and allow only that gene line to reproduce. The two differences are, first, you don't have to go directly into the cells to carve on the genes, and two, it takes a lot longer to reduce the gene pool to reliably return the results you want. As in, on the order of centuries in some cases. The 'natural selection' by selective breeding just isn't there. Don't believe me? Take a look at 'Indian corn', which is still fairly close to the original maize gene pool, compared to pre-GMO sweet corn. They produced the first sweet corns by selective breeding, evolving it to something that likely wouldn't have evolved in nature.
I'll be happy when they come up with a breed of corn that will grow out here in Arizona with minimal watering. Corn's pretty water-intensive, and it doesn't really like the heat out here either...
One seed can germinate to a corn plant. The corn cob has many new seeds on it. Thus, your crop does not 'half' every year. If there's 200 seeds per cob, you can pick the best 3 or 4 cobs for planting, and eat the rest. You'll still have a good crop next year.
Except that Senator Dodd doesn't want you to have a gun. Neither do most in his party.
On the plus side, at least the Cuyahoga didn't catch fire and spark up his hair like it did to Ralph Pirk.
Thought it was against the law to sue the government without its permission. I don't see the government giving permission to be sued.
A lot of the reason Democratic Party politicians voted for such abominations as the USA PATRIOT Act & the bill to authorise the Iraq War is simple. They vote against it for whatever reason, the Repubican spin machine shithammers them in the next election cycle with "Hey, this guy wants the terrerrerrerrists to win, he voted AGAINST The President and your security. Vote Republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
He's got an interesting record. First votes for the Iraq War, then against it ever since. Voted against the Vitter Amendment which, if I'm reading it right, says you cannot confiscate legally-owned firearms in a disaster area and leave the lawful inhabitants helpless. Wants marijuana decriminalised. Took lots of money from Enron, among others.
Not the greatest candidate in the race, but by far not the worst either. I'm wondering about his motivation here.
Personally, I wanna see that warrant first. Show me the warrant, signed by the judge, examined by my lawyer, and I have no probs with it. No warrant? So sorry.
I'm just curious when refusing to allow a search of my property without a warrant will get me arrested for obstruction of 'justice'...
Didn't it get driven off a bridge?
Or do what I did when I got a couple PAL DVDs here in the states. 89679 to avi, convert to whatever at will.
That post was from memory. As of the mid-70's (pretty much when I stopped watching the space program), the Russians weren't admitting anything other than successful missions. To get any info on them at the time, you hadda go talk with your friendly local CIA analyst.
Um, no. You don't need a felony conviction to have committed a felony. Look at that 'second strike' registration they tried instituting in Ohio for priests whose crimes were past the statute of limitations. They still had committed felonies. They just couldn't be convicted of felonies. It doesn't make the deed "didn't happen". Tell that to the victims involved. Then duck, some of them might be armed.
The impeachment vote failed because everybody voted along party lines. By all rights, every single goddamned one of them shoulda lost their reelection, but it's an imperfect world we live in. So be it.
OK, where'd I say that going after Nixon was a witch hunt? I didn't. Thank you for playing.
Nixon was a thug. But was he guilty of masterminding the Watergate breakins? Dunno, don't care. At the end of the day, he took the hit and resigned, saying it didn't matter if he did or didn't, what mattered was he was responsible for the actions of his staff. Did he know ahead of time? Again, dunno, don't care. I happen to agree with him that he was responsible for the actions of his staff. And yeah, if he would have fought it, he should have been impeached. He chose to step down for the good of the country. So be it.
The Senate trial wasn't about extramarital sex. It was about perjury. The Democrats keep spinning that it's all about the sex, and blow off the perjury by claiming oral sex isn't sex and neither are cigars when used as sex toys. It wasn't about the sex. It was about the lying about the sex under oath during a trial. It was about the attitude he had that as president, he was above the law, and couldn't be touched, couldn't be sued, couldn't be prosecuted. Per the Constitution, he's a citizen that holds the office, nothing special. And no citizen is above the law, irregardless of political affiliation. That includes Nixon, that includes Clinton, and that includes Bush.
Well, I'm no expert on the sex laws of Washington DC, but if they're anything similar to what's still on the books but never prosecuted in the Deep South, oral sex is a count of sodomy, good for some prison time. So is inserting any object into a woman's genetalia. Adultry is just a civil offense, good for forking over a significant amount of your paychecks for the next zillion years as well as getting the privilege of paying for a house you're not allowed to live in.
And thank you for respinning the myth that if Bush is evilevilevil then the Clintons are saints. They're not. At best they're the lesser of two evils. Problem of course is, the lesser of two evils is STILL evil.
The Democrats are hardly innocents, either. St Hillary was Democratic counsel to the Watergate Hearings when they tried to oust Nixon and was so fired up on getting an impeachment rammed through she couldn't see straight. Strange that when Bill came under the gun for perjury she was the first to cry 'Witch hunt'.
While I have no problems with politicians indulging in extramarital sex while in office, I do have a problem when they commit perjury about it. Perjury is a felony, plain and simple. Bill was under oath both times. He lied once. For perjury, once is enough. The impeachment trial was a sham, everybody knew the vote would come down along party lines, politics overriding the issue, which made any possible impeachment of Bush for unconstitutional powergrabs out of the question, the spin being 'We went after your boy, you're just wanting revenge'. A shocking display of American politics at its worst.
What I'd love to see, and I know it's just wishful thinking, is a few real candidates for this goaround. Ain't gonna happen, though. Real candidates haven't won an election since Ike.
I'm thinking it's relatively close to even. We lost 3 on the pad (early Apollo, where we learned that a full oxygen mix in a capsual with burnable stuff in it is Almost A Good Idea), & a pair of crewed space shuttles. Officially, the Russians haven't lost anybody but rumor around the water cooler is, they lost a couple when they couldn't deorbit a capsual in time and the cosmonauts ran out of oxygen, couple died on the pad in explosions, and a couple parachute failures pancaked a couple Vostoks into the Siberian tundra.
I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that...
You're thinking Levi Strauss. Leo Strauss was the inspiration for the NeoCon movement.
Let's hope it works. Some of the things 'medications' are being advertised for are just plain silly. I mean, come on, 'restless leg syndrome'????
This is a step in the right direction.
Except by then, it'll be too late. There's about 750,000 on the 'watch list'. Nobody knows how they got on it, or how to get off it. One might suggest that a lot of irate neighbors called the Feds and got some of them put on. Hey, it's job security for TSA & DHS...
Ashcroft advocated a program to get 1 in every 50 Americans as a paid informant to the government. Sanity abounded at the time, and it got shot down. Makes you wonder whyat they came up with in its place. After all, most of the USA PATRIOT Act was shot down for years as parts of other bills before raked up and shoveled at Congress in the form of USA PATRIOT Act. And the Real ID provision of an $80b (yes, 80 BILLION) appropriations bill, tailgated onto the main legislation to provide body armor to troops in Iraq, had been shot down since the 60's as 'The Greatest Generation' kept telling people, "Hey, that's why we fought WW2, dammit! NO!". As an aside, my nephew came back from Iraq a year ago as a combat medic, and nobody'd seen the body armor that appropriation was to supply THREE years ago.
No, when the airlines start bleeding profits like a sieve, Congress will pass a law giving them some of your tax dollars as a subsidy, like they did with the savings & loans industry.
Which makes me wonder wtf ever happened to an armed air marshall on every flight back in the 70's & 80's to stop hijackings. Or the requirement way back then to keep that cockpit door LOCKED any time any passenger was onboard the plane. Come to think of it, howcome the aircraft designers didn't do the design so that cockpit crew had ZERO access to the body of the plane and their own seperate crew door?