I wasn't defending the US, and the US's faults don't justify India's faults.
You are right. What i meant to say was that the scenario is similar to a standoff in which both parties have the gun pointed at each other. A free trade agreement would be equivalent to both agreeing to drop their guns at the same time. Sounds fair, right? What if one of the guys is a giant, and the other is a dwarf? In the dwarf opinion, a standoff with guns makes him more of a equal to the giant than a no-guns-only-hands situation.
In a gist, smaller countries are scared of the larger ones in a free for all. Though i support India's stance, i am sure (though i have not read/heard it yet) that there are countries smaller than India which India is trying to bully. That is the sad reality...i don't think we are going to see an "every body is equal" world anytime in our lifetimes.
Second...an IT-metaphor for what the US+EU is saying about their agri-industry:
We will not protect/subsidize microsoft, you do not protect/subsidize your software stars, let 'em slug it out...the best one wins.
I cannot believe/. editors can be so naive, and/or biased. Most sincerely, the heading of the/. story not only misrepresents, but blows out of proportion a hearsay from another site! Even if we assume that the person in the story is speaking the truth, it is one SINGLE non-official response from the country. I have to ask/. editors, would you report if such an incident occured in the US to a single Indian person?
Here is a CREDITABLE story of a french citizen to made it big in India. The holy frenchman
Just wondering, how do they figure out how many illegal software copies are being used ?
I cannot vouch for the numbers, but software piracy is indeed rampant in India. I would be surprised, though, if the software companies use pirated versions.
> possibly benefit a backward, barbaric village?
> more important things like improving their culture?
> First, introduce modern culture and modern notions of morality;
Aren't we the self-declared pundits on barbarism and modernism. If you mean not having an MTV culture, not wiping out the indegenous people but co-existing with them, not having hate groups like KKK (don't winch) mean India has a barbaric culture, then you must be right. Unlike some countries, civilization in India has been around for more than 5000 years, so it has to be barbaric, right?
But first, please get some basic facts about India straight:
1. Despite being exploited and oppressed by the British for more than 200 years, India is not going astray. She has one of the strongest democracies in the world. For example, when the Prime Minister of India declared that he wanted to help US out with troops in Iraq, major public disapproval forced the govt. to act otherwise. In 50 years after independence, India has managed to put up more than a handful of industries. Excess food is exported, and donated to UN. There is a burgeoning middle class, which is now threatening to take jobs away from countries like US. All this in FIFTY years, starting from the uneducated, impoverished, totally undeveloped state that the British managed to keep India in.
2. India does not have one culture. There are more cultures co-existing in India than you can find in Europe.
3. Unlike some cultures which like to fry criminals, Indian society is very tolerant. Which is probably why people committing anti-female atrocities still walk around.
There are plenty of areas where the country is performing fairly pitifully, i agree. Like female infanticide, as you mentioned. Let me assure you it is not as widespread as you think it is. But that is not the point. The point is why infanticide is present in the first place ? Because parents think girls will be a burden to them: they cannot earn a living doing physical labor. Which is why technology is so important. You have to show the older generation that it is possible to make a living without becomming a construction laborer or working on a farm. You have to show them that in the modern world, females have as much chance of sustaining themselves as the males.
I am saying this most respectfully-- most westerners, including those writers sitting in air-conditioned rooms at WSJ, do not know $hit about the third world. If you want a better understanding of the workings of a very complex society like India's, please drop by sometime. We will even have plenty of bottled water for you, don't worry. Till then, adios with a parting message:
We do not eat frog brains, we do not make soup with monkey eyes floating in it, and we do not jump around from tree to tree.
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Occam's razor: Simplest explanation rulez.
Linus sleeps more soundly than Bill, not becuase of the complicated dynamics that the author dissected, but simply because of Shakespeare.
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Exactly... i am still smiling :-)
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You are right. What i meant to say was that the scenario is similar to a standoff in which both parties have the gun pointed at each other. A free trade agreement would be equivalent to both agreeing to drop their guns at the same time. Sounds fair, right? What if one of the guys is a giant, and the other is a dwarf? In the dwarf opinion, a standoff with guns makes him more of a equal to the giant than a no-guns-only-hands situation.
In a gist, smaller countries are scared of the larger ones in a free for all. Though i support India's stance, i am sure (though i have not read/heard it yet) that there are countries smaller than India which India is trying to bully. That is the sad reality...i don't think we are going to see an "every body is equal" world anytime in our lifetimes.
Appreciate your balanced viewpoints.
Second...an IT-metaphor for what the US+EU is saying about their agri-industry:
We will not protect/subsidize microsoft, you do not protect/subsidize your software stars, let 'em slug it out...the best one wins.
Yeah, right!
Here is a CREDITABLE story of a french citizen to made it big in India. The holy frenchman
Another viewpoint of H1 visas. Visas vs. jobs
Just wondering, how do they figure out how many illegal software copies are being used ?
I cannot vouch for the numbers, but software piracy is indeed rampant in India. I would be surprised, though, if the software companies use pirated versions.
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/colum
The speed with which things have changed is amazing. Malls and multiplexes were unheard of six-seven years ago.
> more important things like improving their culture?
> First, introduce modern culture and modern notions of morality;
Aren't we the self-declared pundits on barbarism and modernism. If you mean not having an MTV culture, not wiping out the indegenous people but co-existing with them, not having hate groups like KKK (don't winch) mean India has a barbaric culture, then you must be right. Unlike some countries, civilization in India has been around for more than 5000 years, so it has to be barbaric, right?
But first, please get some basic facts about India straight:
1. Despite being exploited and oppressed by the British for more than 200 years, India is not going astray. She has one of the strongest democracies in the world. For example, when the Prime Minister of India declared that he wanted to help US out with troops in Iraq, major public disapproval forced the govt. to act otherwise. In 50 years after independence, India has managed to put up more than a handful of industries. Excess food is exported, and donated to UN. There is a burgeoning middle class, which is now threatening to take jobs away from countries like US. All this in FIFTY years, starting from the uneducated, impoverished, totally undeveloped state that the British managed to keep India in.
2. India does not have one culture. There are more cultures co-existing in India than you can find in Europe.
3. Unlike some cultures which like to fry criminals, Indian society is very tolerant. Which is probably why people committing anti-female atrocities still walk around.
There are plenty of areas where the country is performing fairly pitifully, i agree. Like female infanticide, as you mentioned. Let me assure you it is not as widespread as you think it is. But that is not the point. The point is why infanticide is present in the first place ? Because parents think girls will be a burden to them: they cannot earn a living doing physical labor. Which is why technology is so important. You have to show the older generation that it is possible to make a living without becomming a construction laborer or working on a farm. You have to show them that in the modern world, females have as much chance of sustaining themselves as the males.
I am saying this most respectfully-- most westerners, including those writers sitting in air-conditioned rooms at WSJ, do not know $hit about the third world. If you want a better understanding of the workings of a very complex society like India's, please drop by sometime. We will even have plenty of bottled water for you, don't worry. Till then, adios with a parting message:
We do not eat frog brains, we do not make soup with monkey eyes floating in it, and we do not jump around from tree to tree.