The net result is still less disposible income for most people
Is this true?
Even if it were, if goods are less expensive what does it matter? Has standard-of-living decreased? I find it very hard to find decent numbers on this. Certainly we live better than we did in the 50s as a whole. There were the Leave It to Beaver idyllic families, to be sure, but most people didn't live like that.
Better than the 50's but worse than the 90's.
Yes I know that they're are all kinds of reasons for this but outsourceing is certainly one of them.
Things admittedly aren't that bad yet but the trend is headed that way.
Be careful not to generalize... not all computer related positions qualify for expemptions... only those where your PRIMARY responsibility is:
1) The application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software or system functional specifications;
It's this wonderfuly vague first part that sucks in all the support positions even though it's clear that it wasn't the makers intent. Your not doing network support your consulting with users to determine fuctional specifications.
You'd need a root cert, not just control of the domain. You wouldn't even be able to revoke certs.
Watch thte power point.
Once you've hijacked the domain you can intercept email. Then all you have to do is say you forgot your password on the cerficate authority website. Which will promptly email you a new one.
Login and have the cert reissued to work with your nefarious fake website.
And yet this has failed to materialize. Industrial jobs in the US have been shrinking in proportion to productivity gains for a long time - yet we have record industrial output. Meanwhile, the service sector has grown to more than make up for lost assembly line jobs.
I think what gets people wound up is that the service sector jobs do not appear to be as good as the old assembly line jobs. They are generally not unionized and do not include pensions and benefits. I think this is true, but is also becoming true of manufacturing jobs. I think the trends are independent.
The net result is still less disposible income for most people which could be avoided by not shipping those jobs over seas in the first place.
Protecting a domestic job artificially costs the entire society in productivity lost and higher cost of goods sold. It's like enacting a tax to benefit the factory worker.
Besides the economic mumbo-jumbo, the choices aren't "$50/month for an iPod maker in China vs. $2500/month for an iPod maker in the west". In reality, the production line would include a lot more automation if it had to be produced in the west. Just look at western vs. Chinese coal mines. Also, if products cost more, fewer would be sold and so even fewer workers would be needed. How many iPods do you think Apple would sell if the price doubled or tripled?
True the problem is at some point the system turns on itself. How many people can afford a ipod when they are unemployed
remember that China's population is measured in BILLIONS- there's just not enough work to go around.
Now your being overly simplistic.
Economy can scale indefinately in the right conditions.
More people means more businesses can be openend and in turn employee more people,
Lack of small businesses (arguably the source of employment growth) is usually a sign of poor government. Having a culture that doesn't try to improve itself doesn't help either but this at least seems to be changeing.
It's the same thing with planets and Pluto; early in school you need simple classifications. Unfortunately, some people will never really outgrow this level and continue to need them throughout their lives.
If they're using the setup I think they are the guy giving the presentation can't see the holograms from his angle. He's most likely looking at a tv pointed at him, Making this cool but mostly useless.
Tell tale has been pouring our point and click puzzles for years now. The only real changes from the old lucas art games is the switch to episodic content which works wonderfully with the genere.
->Played through all the seasons of Sam& Max
->Waiting for Strong Bads Cool Game for Attrative People.
Point and click puzzles are alive and well.
The author needs to go get a gametap account.
"If architects were like programmers, a woodpecker would destroy civilization."
And if IT project managers oversaw architects Rome would have been built in a day, followed by several patches of course. Rome 8.6 would finally be stable. The real problem isn't programmers it's the insane schedules we are expected to keep. Companies simply do not allow enough time for testing.
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The net result is still less disposible income for most people
Is this true?
Even if it were, if goods are less expensive what does it matter? Has standard-of-living decreased? I find it very hard to find decent numbers on this. Certainly we live better than we did in the 50s as a whole. There were the Leave It to Beaver idyllic families, to be sure, but most people didn't live like that.
Better than the 50's but worse than the 90's. Yes I know that they're are all kinds of reasons for this but outsourceing is certainly one of them. Things admittedly aren't that bad yet but the trend is headed that way.
Be careful not to generalize... not all computer related positions qualify for expemptions... only those where your PRIMARY responsibility is:
1) The application of systems analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine hardware, software or system functional specifications;
It's this wonderfuly vague first part that sucks in all the support positions even though it's clear that it wasn't the makers intent. Your not doing network support your consulting with users to determine fuctional specifications.
You'd need a root cert, not just control of the domain. You wouldn't even be able to revoke certs.
Watch thte power point. Once you've hijacked the domain you can intercept email. Then all you have to do is say you forgot your password on the cerficate authority website. Which will promptly email you a new one. Login and have the cert reissued to work with your nefarious fake website.
And yet this has failed to materialize. Industrial jobs in the US have been shrinking in proportion to productivity gains for a long time - yet we have record industrial output. Meanwhile, the service sector has grown to more than make up for lost assembly line jobs.
I think what gets people wound up is that the service sector jobs do not appear to be as good as the old assembly line jobs. They are generally not unionized and do not include pensions and benefits. I think this is true, but is also becoming true of manufacturing jobs. I think the trends are independent.
The net result is still less disposible income for most people which could be avoided by not shipping those jobs over seas in the first place.
IT workers fall into the exempt catagory. Most everyone here is out of luck.
Thank god for PBS.....
Amen, Bristish sitcoms are infinately more interesting than Miss Spears.
Protecting a domestic job artificially costs the entire society in productivity lost and higher cost of goods sold. It's like enacting a tax to benefit the factory worker.
Besides the economic mumbo-jumbo, the choices aren't "$50/month for an iPod maker in China vs. $2500/month for an iPod maker in the west". In reality, the production line would include a lot more automation if it had to be produced in the west. Just look at western vs. Chinese coal mines. Also, if products cost more, fewer would be sold and so even fewer workers would be needed. How many iPods do you think Apple would sell if the price doubled or tripled?
True the problem is at some point the system turns on itself. How many people can afford a ipod when they are unemployed
remember that China's population is measured in BILLIONS- there's just not enough work to go around.
Now your being overly simplistic. Economy can scale indefinately in the right conditions. More people means more businesses can be openend and in turn employee more people, Lack of small businesses (arguably the source of employment growth) is usually a sign of poor government. Having a culture that doesn't try to improve itself doesn't help either but this at least seems to be changeing.
Thats because BMW builds all their cars over in the U.S.
Smallpox only exists in captivity and Polio is definitely on the endangered list! Both are a bit less cuddly than Giant Pandas, however.
Not true. Look at this plush toy
warehouse23.com
So cuddley.
It's the same thing with planets and Pluto; early in school you need simple classifications. Unfortunately, some people will never really outgrow this level and continue to need them throughout their lives.
How would you classify these people?
makes it fairly easy for humans to "create life" in the form of self-reproducing machines.
What's so easy about that? It's never been done! It would be a stupendous thing if it were.
Easy is a realtive term. It certainly seems more obtainable than creating a macheine with Metabolic function and Physical Growth
Not everything in life is about geeking out constantly.
We are sick of your lies sir!
If they're using the setup I think they are the guy giving the presentation can't see the holograms from his angle. He's most likely looking at a tv pointed at him, Making this cool but mostly useless.
Maybe I'm Captain Obvious, but who wouldn't want to talk to creative people doing exciting things?
Futurama had it right.
"Smart thing make people feel dumb, and unexpected things make people feel scared."
We geeks go against the grain that way.
> Like the patriot graph.
No. The Patriot Tree (Yes, I know it isn't a tree, but we're talking marketing now. Details don't matter.)
Exactly.
Everybody wants to support trees. If you haven't written your congressman already you must really hate the planet.
It's THAT SIMPLE!
You've never studied public policy, have you?
I have and it could work.
First youy have to give it a marketable name. Like the patriot graph.
Then you have to scare people. If you don't memorize your patriot graph the terroists have won.
For heaven's sake: even Diablo II had a secret cow level!
Yes but it was dark secret cow level.
That's how you know it's evil.
Matthew 7:5 applies to you too, there, beam-eye.
I want this on a t-shirt.
, I think we just reverse the polarity.
or wait for him to regenerate, or use emergency temporal shift.......wait I think we both have the wrong show.
Tell tale has been pouring our point and click puzzles for years now. The only real changes from the old lucas art games is the switch to episodic content which works wonderfully with the genere.
->Played through all the seasons of Sam& Max
->Waiting for Strong Bads Cool Game for Attrative People.
Point and click puzzles are alive and well. The author needs to go get a gametap account.
"If architects were like programmers, a woodpecker would destroy civilization."
And if IT project managers oversaw architects Rome would have been built in a day, followed by several patches of course. Rome 8.6 would finally be stable. The real problem isn't programmers it's the insane schedules we are expected to keep. Companies simply do not allow enough time for testing.
Maybe he got replaced by another alternate Rimmer.
I just moved from Wisconsin. Who knew there was a reason to stay,
Hooray....Now I only have to hate one company,