There is still a lot of hardware that BSD doesn't support. In December, I had to migrate my BSD email server to a Compaq system with the Compaq SMART RAID controller. BSD didn't support the controller at the time, so the decision was a no-brainer. The Linux "hype" does get real vendor participation, which translates into a larger suite of higher-quality device drivers.
There is the issue of how you feel on the whole GPL versus BSD license thing.
OpenBSD is incredibly slow in implementing the latest standards. They are still on Bind 4 (and yes, I know there was a root vulnerability, but everybody else is using Bind 8).
The BSD people are great, and Linux owes a lot to them. BSD continues to make great contributions to the world of Linux. It would be the best of all possible worlds if each had the same capabilities. But, because of the hype factor and the real development it brings, BSD has no hope of being as flexible as Linux in the near future.
I guess it is a question of what you grew into, the level of risk you are willing to tolerate, and the hardware that you need to support. The decision of BSD or Linux starts there.
These guys are buying AMD K6-2 3D 450 processors, which they say work in a variety of motherboards. Do these work in non-MMX (single voltage) motherboards?
I'm using an old Gateway P75 as a masquerade box for my cable modem. It would sure be nice to upgrade it to 450 on the cheap.
I am looking for the best way to squeeze a little more life out of this box.
These systems are really picky about memory. I went through two different Micron 128MB PC-100 modules before I insisted that the vendor send me NEC memory.
My Athlon 650 with a Biostar (Irongate) board works great with Red Hat 6.2. It does complain about an unrecognized IDE chipset, though.
I guess that a lot of these people who are complaining about Linux incompatibility really just have memory problems.
I as a UNIX user will no longer be tolerant of Windows in any way. I will remove it from any machine to which I have access, and I will refuse to work for an employer or client that maintains it in my immediate working environment.
More of the IT industry is preparing to do to Microsoft what they have done to us - no tolerance for their views or their products.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
IANAL, but it seems pretty clear-cut to me.
Slashdot, take this to court. You may lose, but imagine the publicity, and the awesome responsibility of demonstrating how perverted our legislative and legal system have become.
Let me know if you need a contribution to your legal defense fund.
It is most certainly not the easiest sql.
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When you need to use a subquery, you need to use a subquery. If they aren't available, you've got to take several steps to emulate them.
Just imagine if someone built a Linux distribution like MySQL built their database. "fsck is too hard to implement, so we are leaving it out. We didn't have time to implement all the options to ls. Shared libraries don't perform well, so we don't use them, and we don't like glibc.
The problem is that many open-source developers choose MySQL. Linux administrators that hate it are constantly forced to install it to obtain required functionality.
Also notice that MySQL hasn't made it into Red Hat (or Caldera?). They also don't use shared libraries, their redistribution license isn't GPL or BSD like everybody else, and they just do things differently.
You have a situation where those that hate it are forced to hate it more, and those who love it grow more infatuated by the moment.
Not good for the community.
Interbase, but it isn't here yet.
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Borland/Inprise said it was mostly-SQL92 compliant.
<p>Interbase also used a postgres-like server model, with many server processes communicating via IPC. They recently switched to the single threaded process model similar to Sybase (you can configure your Sybase server to use only one process and still get reasonable performance).</p>
<p>Right now, there are lots of free DBMSes to choose from, but none can serve all needs.</p>
What do I hate about MySQL? Let me count the ways:
No procedural extensions to SQL, and no stored procedures.
A permissions structure from hell.
No triggers, no views.
No transaction consistency.
Basically, if you want a SQL interface to Windows Notepad, MySQL is for you.
From a functionality standpoint, Postgres has fantastic integration with Red Hat at the moment if you want an open-source database. If you need scalability, use the free Sybase and upgrade to the commercial version when you have the need and the money.
The basis of Ayn Rand's philosophy is the assumption that the most valuable commodities within a culture are the individuals that compose it. I am comfortable with this assumption, and I need no proof.
Each individual within the culture commits a crime against themselves if they fail to realize and honor the value of others or of self.
To call such an attitude sophomoric is to commit an act of self-immolation. I have no interest in such people.
Cultures that do not value the individual transfer both achievement and blame to the unworthy. I have no interest in such cultures.
The extent of the failure of her philosophy is its failure to realize the value of other individuals. Her catastrophic breakup with Nathaniel Branden will attest to this.
Have you discussed with IBM the possibility of including Linux components in your joint Monteray UNIX venture, or making Monteray essentially a SCO-IBM Linux distribution?
Since IBM has recently open-sourced their own JFS file system, is there any hope of a completely open-sourced Monteray, or open-sourced components of AIX?
SCO had also agreed to work with HP on a combined x86-PARISC UNIX for Merced(Itanium). Is there any life left in a SCO-HP association from a Linux perspective?
If SGI follows through on open sourcing their journaled XFS file system, is there a possibility that SCO would include it in their commercial products (OpenServer, UNIXWare)?
Also, SCO has said some pretty disparaging things about Linux in the past. Who is responsible for this sea-change within SCO, and why?
I guess that you have at least a little something to say about this.
Is the 586 optimization enough to justify Mandrake's position? Are you especially proud of any of the architectural differences between the distributions (from what I have been told, the Apache-PHP layout is quite a bit different).
How do feel about the steps that Red Hat has taken to change their distribution in reaction to yours?
Would you think it wise to roll alternatives to the Lempel-Ziv algorithms into gzip to make other compression utilities less attractive?
It seems that this approach is adopted by other applications (ssh uses multiple encryption engines, and TIFF has allowed several compression techniques for quite a long time).
Would you support an effort to implement bzip2 within gzip? Do you think such a thing could be done while maintaining gzip's stability?
Does Andover have you involved in the management of its other websites or sundry holdings? Do you have any major plans in the works other than the maintenance and growth of Slashdot?
In other words, what is the Andover plan for world domination?
Gosh, Rob, I wish that I had set up a news website like you rather than writing the book on Red Hat administration.
Maybe one more question: did you suffer heart failure on the day of the IPO when you realized how much you are worth, or did you just scream a lot?
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If so, they will be emperiled when you are taken to court.
Are you doing everything possible to preserve the "corporate veil" which will protect you and your employees from personal liability?
In other words, are you receiving good legal council from someone versed in international trade?
Yes, I know why Bind 8 isn't included. Red Hat changed Bind to run under the non-priviledged "named" user precisely because of this problem in 6.2.
I guess I probably feel the same about BSD and SunOS 4.1.3 - classic operating systems, but these days a little behind the times.
But it takes so long to install the operating system.
I also like to run sendmail, apache, name server, nfs, samba, etc.
When I use any of this while I playing mp3s through its sound card, my stereo sound awful.
You know, this 75mhz Pentium probably does more than my 650mhz Athlon.
Or why not Linux? A couple of reasons each way:
The BSD people are great, and Linux owes a lot to them. BSD continues to make great contributions to the world of Linux. It would be the best of all possible worlds if each had the same capabilities. But, because of the hype factor and the real development it brings, BSD has no hope of being as flexible as Linux in the near future.
I guess it is a question of what you grew into, the level of risk you are willing to tolerate, and the hardware that you need to support. The decision of BSD or Linux starts there.
These guys are buying AMD K6-2 3D 450 processors, which they say work in a variety of motherboards. Do these work in non-MMX (single voltage) motherboards?
I'm using an old Gateway P75 as a masquerade box for my cable modem. It would sure be nice to upgrade it to 450 on the cheap.
I am looking for the best way to squeeze a little more life out of this box.
These systems are really picky about memory. I went through two different Micron 128MB PC-100 modules before I insisted that the vendor send me NEC memory.
My Athlon 650 with a Biostar (Irongate) board works great with Red Hat 6.2. It does complain about an unrecognized IDE chipset, though.
I guess that a lot of these people who are complaining about Linux incompatibility really just have memory problems.
Je suis un american, mais j'espere que la bon nation de France succede en vigueur des Américains abandonner leur postion.
Pardonnez-moi si mon Francais n'est pas tres bon...
We shouldn't start making this kind of noise until Andover's attorneys say that it won't hurt their position.
I as a UNIX user will no longer be tolerant of Windows in any way. I will remove it from any machine to which I have access, and I will refuse to work for an employer or client that maintains it in my immediate working environment.
More of the IT industry is preparing to do to Microsoft what they have done to us - no tolerance for their views or their products.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
IANAL, but it seems pretty clear-cut to me.
Slashdot, take this to court. You may lose, but imagine the publicity, and the awesome responsibility of demonstrating how perverted our legislative and legal system have become.
Let me know if you need a contribution to your legal defense fund.
When you need to use a subquery, you need to use a subquery. If they aren't available, you've got to take several steps to emulate them.
Just imagine if someone built a Linux distribution like MySQL built their database. "fsck is too hard to implement, so we are leaving it out. We didn't have time to implement all the options to ls. Shared libraries don't perform well, so we don't use them, and we don't like glibc.
Oh, wait, that's Slackware!
The problem is that many open-source developers choose MySQL. Linux administrators that hate it are constantly forced to install it to obtain required functionality.
Also notice that MySQL hasn't made it into Red Hat (or Caldera?). They also don't use shared libraries, their redistribution license isn't GPL or BSD like everybody else, and they just do things differently.
You have a situation where those that hate it are forced to hate it more, and those who love it grow more infatuated by the moment.
Not good for the community.
Borland/Inprise said it was mostly-SQL92 compliant.
<p>Interbase also used a postgres-like server model, with many server processes communicating via IPC. They recently switched to the single threaded process model similar to Sybase (you can configure your Sybase server to use only one process and still get reasonable performance).</p>
<p>Right now, there are lots of free DBMSes to choose from, but none can serve all needs.</p>
What do I hate about MySQL? Let me count the ways:
Basically, if you want a SQL interface to Windows Notepad, MySQL is for you.
From a functionality standpoint, Postgres has fantastic integration with Red Hat at the moment if you want an open-source database. If you need scalability, use the free Sybase and upgrade to the commercial version when you have the need and the money.
The basis of Ayn Rand's philosophy is the assumption that the most valuable commodities within a culture are the individuals that compose it. I am comfortable with this assumption, and I need no proof.
Each individual within the culture commits a crime against themselves if they fail to realize and honor the value of others or of self.
To call such an attitude sophomoric is to commit an act of self-immolation. I have no interest in such people.
Cultures that do not value the individual transfer both achievement and blame to the unworthy. I have no interest in such cultures.
The extent of the failure of her philosophy is its failure to realize the value of other individuals. Her catastrophic breakup with Nathaniel Branden will attest to this.
She had a great philosophy that doesn't deserve to be reduced to a stereotype.
Yes, it has its weaknesses, but let he who is blameless cast the first stone.
Have you discussed with IBM the possibility of including Linux components in your joint Monteray UNIX venture, or making Monteray essentially a SCO-IBM Linux distribution?
Since IBM has recently open-sourced their own JFS file system, is there any hope of a completely open-sourced Monteray, or open-sourced components of AIX?
SCO had also agreed to work with HP on a combined x86-PARISC UNIX for Merced(Itanium). Is there any life left in a SCO-HP association from a Linux perspective?
If SGI follows through on open sourcing their journaled XFS file system, is there a possibility that SCO would include it in their commercial products (OpenServer, UNIXWare)?
Also, SCO has said some pretty disparaging things about Linux in the past. Who is responsible for this sea-change within SCO, and why?
I read sometime ago that you coded so much that your hands gave out.
Has the medical condition of your hands changed at all?
Alternately, is there anything that we can do to help if the condition has not improved?
We heard news recently that Trolltech plans to release a Linux Qt that does not require X. To me, this sounds like a great idea.
Will Gnome follow? Has Cygnus/RedHat expressed any interest?
I also noticed that svgalib is depreciated in Red Hat 6.2 and will be removed. Does this leave the frame buffer as the only non-X device?
I think that the RPM package format relies upon cpio, as evidenced by the "rpm2cpio" utility.
I think I've seen .cgz files lying around Red Hat's FTP server. I think they are in the install images as well.
cpio is much more akward to use. Perhaps this poster should be sentenced to it for a few months?
I guess that you have at least a little something to say about this.
Is the 586 optimization enough to justify Mandrake's position? Are you especially proud of any of the architectural differences between the distributions (from what I have been told, the Apache-PHP layout is quite a bit different).
How do feel about the steps that Red Hat has taken to change their distribution in reaction to yours?
Would you think it wise to roll alternatives to the Lempel-Ziv algorithms into gzip to make other compression utilities less attractive?
It seems that this approach is adopted by other applications (ssh uses multiple encryption engines, and TIFF has allowed several compression techniques for quite a long time).
Would you support an effort to implement bzip2 within gzip? Do you think such a thing could be done while maintaining gzip's stability?
IMHO, whenever the errata exceeds 50MB, an automatic version increment should occur.
Let's face it: not everybody is on a T1. This will also encourage Red Hat to do it right the first time (witness the Apache upgrades for 6.1).
It's Linux port is in every Linux distribution that I've checked.
Even old Mac games are going to make Linux better.
Does Andover have you involved in the management of its other websites or sundry holdings? Do you have any major plans in the works other than the maintenance and growth of Slashdot?
In other words, what is the Andover plan for world domination?
Gosh, Rob, I wish that I had set up a news website like you rather than writing the book on Red Hat administration.
Maybe one more question: did you suffer heart failure on the day of the IPO when you realized how much you are worth, or did you just scream a lot?
Oh, and should I buy shares?