"It is a difficult concept to get one's head around. Parasites, to us, are derivative, necessarily descendant from the biological entities they depend on for life. But simple does not always mean less evolved. Mimi's outsize complement of genes--so large that the virus is tantalizingly close to being an independent organism--suggest to many scientists that Mimivirus underwent reductive evolution early on and shed some of its genome, including the genes necessary to replicate on its own."
"The implications of that finding are truly radical: that Mimi, or a Mimi-like ancestor, emerged prior to the three other domains and played a key role in inventing the very cells of which humans and all complex cellular life-forms are made."
"No, no I don't. I'm yet to see a single ajax feature I couldn't live without."
That's absurd. So, who cares about progress? Screw HDTV then, it's just fancy TV. Forget about Java, it's just fancy C++. The internet is just fancy radio.
Like the terminology or not, "Web 2.0" is progress. Progress is good. God bless America, and so on.
There's nothing wrong with bringing the investors back. We NEED investors. If they get their kicks from clever marketing, so be it. It keeps us employed.
The key to URU was immersion... but, unfortunately, not everyone got to see this.
I was one of the few players who got to actually interact with the story they were building.
Imagine if in WOW the King of Ironforge got up and wandered around organizing Raid groups.. think Dev-controlled NPCs. This is what was really unique about URU... the characters even read your forum posts and treated you differently in the game because of things you said offline.
If they can bring this back and do it right, it could be really major.
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Using this reasoning, you just invalidated both Java and C#.
Java was a bandaid for people who liked C++.
C# was a bandaid for people who liked Java...
What would you propose? Something entirely new? Why introduce a learning curve when you can build on existing knowledge?
If you'll notice i certainly did not imply change for change's sake. What I'm saying is that as a programming language ages, it has to grow and adapt to new technologies. As it grows, it begins to incorporate complexy involved in both supporting new ways of writing software, and keeping backward compatibility. After large periods of time, the breadth of the language (and supporting libraries) is sprawling and complex. It is usually then when someone starts from scratch to address the leading methods of writing applications of the time. They don't have to worry as much about backward compatibilty and usually create simpler frameworks and methods. They also have the benefit of writing for newer hardware, which may allow for additional abstraction of things (memory management, strong typing) that were usually necessary to worry about before.
To say that C# is the closest thing to Java is accurate. To say that C# will supplant Java is probably wrong, though, because C# is already so much like Java (it was designed that way).
JSF has been around for a while, but unfortunately they have faced some adoption pains... They are certainly promising, but my feeling is they are much like EJBs in that they are far more complex and broad in scope than is generally need for most cases.
I agree that the supposition that servlets are too complex is a bit of a stretch, but it seems you might be missing the point when you say that Java is a bad language.
The book doesn't seem to be saying that Java is a bad language, that that it has reached its peak of usefulness and will be supplanted by some new technology in the future. This is the inevitable progression of programming technology - increase in abstraction moving away from low level details.
Assembly -> C -> C++ -> Java -> something new.
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Enterprise Integration - PHP Frameworks like WASP (and Zend's own) are on their way there.
I would say that I'm certainly not using slash for self promotion. I'm not promoting myself for any consulting services or anything of that nature. I simply made available code that people might possibly be useful to people and wanted to let people know about it. Is't that the spirit of open source?
Wouldn't it be great if we could all work for companies where the bottom line wasn't the most important thing.
I personally think the cost factor is *the* reason OSS has gotten as far as it has. When the bubble burst, companies were hooked on their expensive software packages and products but couldn't afford the licensing anymore. OSS came to the rescue and along the way showed people that paying a lot for your software doesn't mean it's any better. People have found bottom line gains with OSS even excluding the cost savings through such things as increased stability, uptime, etc.
Cue a flow of comments on how AJAX isn't secure/safe/etc.
But we already knew that, didn't we?
Personally, I'd be glad to see AJAX take this kind of hit. Keeping cross browser compatibility is hard enough as it is.
Actually, there's nothing that would prevent you from being killed on your journey to the past. You just couldn't kill your past self.
Your present future is unknown, so you may not survive your trip to the past.
"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."
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"It is a difficult concept to get one's head around. Parasites, to us, are derivative, necessarily descendant from the biological entities they depend on for life. But simple does not always mean less evolved. Mimi's outsize complement of genes--so large that the virus is tantalizingly close to being an independent organism--suggest to many scientists that Mimivirus underwent reductive evolution early on and shed some of its genome, including the genes necessary to replicate on its own."
"The implications of that finding are truly radical: that Mimi, or a Mimi-like ancestor, emerged prior to the three other domains and played a key role in inventing the very cells of which humans and all complex cellular life-forms are made."
I was being satirical...
I'm with you. I have mod points, but I already posted in here. Drat.
That's absurd. So, who cares about progress? Screw HDTV then, it's just fancy TV. Forget about Java, it's just fancy C++. The internet is just fancy radio.
Like the terminology or not, "Web 2.0" is progress. Progress is good. God bless America, and so on.
There's nothing wrong with bringing the investors back. We NEED investors. If they get their kicks from clever marketing, so be it. It keeps us employed.
the stodgiest comments I've ever seen. This isn't flamebait, it's informative.
I was one of the few players who got to actually interact with the story they were building.
Imagine if in WOW the King of Ironforge got up and wandered around organizing Raid groups.. think Dev-controlled NPCs. This is what was really unique about URU... the characters even read your forum posts and treated you differently in the game because of things you said offline.
If they can bring this back and do it right, it could be really major.
Java was a bandaid for people who liked C++.
C# was a bandaid for people who liked Java...
What would you propose? Something entirely new? Why introduce a learning curve when you can build on existing knowledge?
To say that C# is the closest thing to Java is accurate. To say that C# will supplant Java is probably wrong, though, because C# is already so much like Java (it was designed that way).
JSF has been around for a while, but unfortunately they have faced some adoption pains... They are certainly promising, but my feeling is they are much like EJBs in that they are far more complex and broad in scope than is generally need for most cases.
The book doesn't seem to be saying that Java is a bad language, that that it has reached its peak of usefulness and will be supplanted by some new technology in the future. This is the inevitable progression of programming technology - increase in abstraction moving away from low level details.
Assembly -> C -> C++ -> Java -> something new.
Enterprise Integration - PHP Frameworks like WASP (and Zend's own) are on their way there.
Internet Focus - PHP is certainly that.
Interoperability - PHP Frameworks are very abstracted, and PHP has PECL connectivity to Java
Dynamic typing, OO, reflection - PHP 5 has all of those.
PHP itself may be too close to HTML, but that's what frameworks are for... You could say the same things about JSP/ASP. read this for more info on PHP frameworks
I would say that I'm certainly not using slash for self promotion. I'm not promoting myself for any consulting services or anything of that nature. I simply made available code that people might possibly be useful to people and wanted to let people know about it. Is't that the spirit of open source?
I personally think the cost factor is *the* reason OSS has gotten as far as it has. When the bubble burst, companies were hooked on their expensive software packages and products but couldn't afford the licensing anymore. OSS came to the rescue and along the way showed people that paying a lot for your software doesn't mean it's any better. People have found bottom line gains with OSS even excluding the cost savings through such things as increased stability, uptime, etc.
It's called WASP it uses the Flexy template engine (which is even better at logic separation than Smarty) and DB DataObjects.
Here's an article comparing WASP in PHP to Java.
Cue a flow of comments on how AJAX isn't secure/safe/etc. But we already knew that, didn't we? Personally, I'd be glad to see AJAX take this kind of hit. Keeping cross browser compatibility is hard enough as it is.
Why is the Goatse guy all over the page? Is this a real article or was it hacked?
Yes, they do. IBM Global Services Class Lab Engineering. They use Token Ring EVERYWHERE. It's frustrating.
I'm impressed. That actually looks .... ok.
(even speaking as a mac user)
Actually, there's nothing that would prevent you from being killed on your journey to the past. You just couldn't kill your past self. Your present future is unknown, so you may not survive your trip to the past.
http://www.theonion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatents .html
My favorite quote:
"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."
the answer to both of your questions is that people are stupid, plain and simple.
So why do we non-stupid people have to pay for their stupidity?
It's time we rise up and rule the world!
First objective: become telemarketers and profit from the stupid people.
Two Questions:
-why do companies use frustratingly annoying marketing techniques?
-why do people continue to fall for them?
typo... :)
I probably wouldn't be reading /. right now...
I learned how to program on one when I was 7.
LOAD "*",8,8
RUN
or even
SYS49152