Finally, a rational answer, thanks for that. I'm all for paying 100% to have schools, hospitals, libraries and even local doctors offices to have the utmost in communications ability, just not individual houses.
I can answer those! woot. I drink water to survive, I use a sewer to to keep diseases from spreading (latrine in the backyard is illegal here). I ask again, what are they going to use the broadband for again? Oh, and yes, checking the ole' W-2, paying my share for water/sewage. Now answer my question please.
I am an ass, no arguement there, but please answer the question. What makes broadband internet access to someones house a necessity for life in the United States? It's a very simple question, I'm sorry I made it complicated with a rant, but here it is: "I'm being asked to pay for it, What are they going to use it for, that dial up in not providing?"
Okay, fine, I give up. Raise the taxes on the rich to 100%. I did my part, now it's your turn. Find the other 80% in spending cuts that are needed. Calling me a teabagger you brainwashed little piece of shit (since we are now reduced to school yard name calling). No teaparty person is calling for cuts in social security. Chopping block for Medicare? What the hell are you smoking? Instead of it increasing 8% next year, we only want to increase it by 7%? What in the blue fuck part of "we're broke" don't you understand? You honestly believe that raising taxes on rich people will pay for all this shit? Are you out of your fucking mind??? It's not even hard math, just the addition and subtraction kind...
Define Necessity please? What does broadband give them that dial up does not? Your asking me to pay for it, so I don't think the quesiton is unreasonable.
Your asking me to pay for your in-laws broadband internet access. Please tell me why they *need* it, thanks. I mean, you gotta come up with something better than, "I need to raise your taxes so it's faster to fix my in-laws laptop... heh.
My debate, I reckon, is unreasonable. If it's not a right, where does the government get the authority? Seriously. Please provide a link. How can you just, all of a sudden, under not justification deem something that 5 years ago (broadband) was considered bragging rights, to a neccesity? What does broadband provide that dial up can't? Faster click throughs on youporn? If folks NEED (I will debate the words "Need internet access") broadband, why don't they hook up a satilite dish, or go to the library I paid for? My problem is thus: I'm being forced to subsidize someone elses personal choice. If i CHOOSE to move out into the middle of the desert, or the boonies off some swamp, is it my right to have water, gas, and electric run to my shack?
Broadband internet access is a necessity? Why do people in the sticks need broadband, what the hell are they going to do with it? Everquest?? Can't use broadband without a computer (if it's not profitable for a company to provide internet access, you think those folks out there can afford a computer?, so I guess I'll be buying one of those for folks. If somone lives/moves out to the boonies with no high speed access, wouldn't one assume they are choosing to NOT participate in society? Where did (does) the government get the authority? Seriously. I'm buying houses, food, clothing, cell phones, roads, cars, phones, healthcare, abortions, dishwashers, insulation, HVAC systems. and now highspeed internet access? People ask me why I don't donate to charity, I just want to show them a copy of my W-2. I'm okay with food/shelter/clothing. That's a necessity. Everything else is a luxury. I'm so sick and tired of not being able to listen to the radio for more than 20 minutes without another government program/subsidy/tax break for every god damn product you can imagine.
The problem is when you run out of other peoples money. To over simplify, do you want a space probe or half the country (USA) not get thier government assitance checks? I think science and education should be staggeringly funded, but most people are missing a very basic concept. We're broke. Eating our seed stock...
This is my major beef with $country debt. Spend a billion on space travel? Nah, we could have spent that money on cancer research. Here is a thought, and I'm just spit balling here.. How about not spend it at all? Here in Columbus Ohio, we approved a casino deal to increase school funding and infrastructure projects because we're broke. Yesterday I found out that that casino money is going to buy the Blue Jackets sport stadium. My thought would be, take in taxes, pay your bills, take what's left for science, research, art, etc... There is absolutely NO MATH that supports government creating jobs.
Economics has *ZERO* to do with buying hybrid cars. You have no return on investment before the car falls out of warranty. Buying $10,000 in replacement batteries after 3 years.. yeah, that's going to sting a bit.
You spend $40,000 for the hybrid, I spend $10,000 to subsidize, the manufacturer loses money and there is zero return. This could possibly explain why it is impossible for hybrid cars to survive in a free market economy (at this point). I'm all about hybrid/effiecient cars, I hope someday they actually become affordable.
I mean really, we're only 14 Trillion in debt, clearly we need to make it harder and more expensive to do business in the United States.
Any other solution is just ludicrous. We'll just buy things made in another country and resell it here. I mean, thier poluted air will never make it ALL THE WAY over here... No chance. Let the other side of the globe burn to cinders under global warming. Technically, we already have carbon credits... They are called fines.
I know it it has some merit, but I would think establishing a perm. moon base would be "what's next". Your only three or four days out, can work out the logistics, effects, communication, etc... See if people really do turn into jellyfish after 6 months in what 1/6 gravity. The only reason I can see for colonizing mars (at this point) is "because". Let's bet on black before we bet on green zero.
It was said he would be tested. Not by a big time republican, it was a democrat (May have heard of him, the vice president of the United States Joe Biden)... ""It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. " Not your fault though, I'm sure Rachael Maddow remembers it that way and just passed it on...
No mention of terror attacks. It was more like a foreign leader (Iran in this case) bowing up on the US. I'll not offer an opinion as to wether or not the administration caved or not with Iran (or most countries for that matter).
Also to note that the point of terrorism isn't to kill people, it's to remove our freedoms and way of life. Killing people is just an addded bonus. Every few weeks, maybe monthly, we stand in line to remove our own freedoms one at a time. There is very little reason to attack us right now. Until we stop removing our own freedoms, then it's time to step it up again. I'm with you on the fat guys though.
For those that are in favor, answer me this.. Why shouldn't ALL income go to the government first, have all programs paid for, and then (if anything is left over) divided by 340 million is our "new" income. What is your argument against that? Everyone is dancing around the most obvious. We simply can't afford everything we want.
They are used on your behalf to defend the United States which is required by our constitution. If they are misused, then you would have (and probably do) have a point.
Get WOW, Everquest, Star Wars (Knights), all those folks ported over to IPads, then maybe (Tens of millions of folks)...
Then get those to work well on wireless with less than 2g's of video memory...... MMO's will keep the PC world alive for at least another 3-5 years.
Hence the 2nd amendment. Folks, it's not there to protect us from things that go bump in the night. It's to protect the citizens from thier governement. There are MILLIONS of handguns alone in the country, shotguns, rifles everywhere. "Wherever the army is willing to kill the *UNARMED* protesters the state wins. " Libya.
Sedition
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic . rebellious disorder.
1: Tea party folks or democrats that have signed the pledge are involved in the process doing nothing illegal. They were voted in by the folks they govern.
2: Maybe this is where your coming from, it's the closest I can come. Poverty (as defined in the US) is way up. Our current jails hold 2.5 million people. The murder rate would be approx 5X of what is currently reported if it wasn't for major advances in medical technology and 911. We are going broke rapidly. Contemplate the "rebellion" if just one day, 45 million folks didn't get thier food stamps. The government is spread too thin and we're up to borrowing $.43 to quell our masses. They are actually PART of the government.. not sure how you rebel against yourself.
3: Mostly, that's what the teaparty is trying to avert.
Curious, how does a balanced budget subvert democracy?
The tea party got WAY off track, it was suppose to be a social movement around personal responsibility. I used to be a tea party member until there were tea party leaders. At that point, I bailed.
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Finally, a rational answer, thanks for that. I'm all for paying 100% to have schools, hospitals, libraries and even local doctors offices to have the utmost in communications ability, just not individual houses.
I can answer those! woot. I drink water to survive, I use a sewer to to keep diseases from spreading (latrine in the backyard is illegal here). I ask again, what are they going to use the broadband for again? Oh, and yes, checking the ole' W-2, paying my share for water/sewage. Now answer my question please.
I am an ass, no arguement there, but please answer the question. What makes broadband internet access to someones house a necessity for life in the United States? It's a very simple question, I'm sorry I made it complicated with a rant, but here it is: "I'm being asked to pay for it, What are they going to use it for, that dial up in not providing?"
Okay, fine, I give up. Raise the taxes on the rich to 100%. I did my part, now it's your turn. Find the other 80% in spending cuts that are needed. Calling me a teabagger you brainwashed little piece of shit (since we are now reduced to school yard name calling). No teaparty person is calling for cuts in social security. Chopping block for Medicare? What the hell are you smoking? Instead of it increasing 8% next year, we only want to increase it by 7%? What in the blue fuck part of "we're broke" don't you understand? You honestly believe that raising taxes on rich people will pay for all this shit? Are you out of your fucking mind??? It's not even hard math, just the addition and subtraction kind...
Define Necessity please? What does broadband give them that dial up does not? Your asking me to pay for it, so I don't think the quesiton is unreasonable.
Your asking me to pay for your in-laws broadband internet access. Please tell me why they *need* it, thanks. I mean, you gotta come up with something better than, "I need to raise your taxes so it's faster to fix my in-laws laptop... heh.
My debate, I reckon, is unreasonable. If it's not a right, where does the government get the authority? Seriously. Please provide a link. How can you just, all of a sudden, under not justification deem something that 5 years ago (broadband) was considered bragging rights, to a neccesity? What does broadband provide that dial up can't? Faster click throughs on youporn? If folks NEED (I will debate the words "Need internet access") broadband, why don't they hook up a satilite dish, or go to the library I paid for? My problem is thus: I'm being forced to subsidize someone elses personal choice. If i CHOOSE to move out into the middle of the desert, or the boonies off some swamp, is it my right to have water, gas, and electric run to my shack?
Broadband internet access is a necessity? Why do people in the sticks need broadband, what the hell are they going to do with it? Everquest?? Can't use broadband without a computer (if it's not profitable for a company to provide internet access, you think those folks out there can afford a computer?, so I guess I'll be buying one of those for folks. If somone lives/moves out to the boonies with no high speed access, wouldn't one assume they are choosing to NOT participate in society? Where did (does) the government get the authority? Seriously. I'm buying houses, food, clothing, cell phones, roads, cars, phones, healthcare, abortions, dishwashers, insulation, HVAC systems. and now highspeed internet access? People ask me why I don't donate to charity, I just want to show them a copy of my W-2. I'm okay with food/shelter/clothing. That's a necessity. Everything else is a luxury. I'm so sick and tired of not being able to listen to the radio for more than 20 minutes without another government program/subsidy/tax break for every god damn product you can imagine.
Still in use actually. I was on a carrier in 93 and 95. Degaussed both years during sea trials.
The problem is when you run out of other peoples money. To over simplify, do you want a space probe or half the country (USA) not get thier government assitance checks? I think science and education should be staggeringly funded, but most people are missing a very basic concept. We're broke. Eating our seed stock...
This is my major beef with $country debt. Spend a billion on space travel? Nah, we could have spent that money on cancer research. Here is a thought, and I'm just spit balling here.. How about not spend it at all? Here in Columbus Ohio, we approved a casino deal to increase school funding and infrastructure projects because we're broke. Yesterday I found out that that casino money is going to buy the Blue Jackets sport stadium. My thought would be, take in taxes, pay your bills, take what's left for science, research, art, etc... There is absolutely NO MATH that supports government creating jobs.
Economics has *ZERO* to do with buying hybrid cars. You have no return on investment before the car falls out of warranty. Buying $10,000 in replacement batteries after 3 years.. yeah, that's going to sting a bit. You spend $40,000 for the hybrid, I spend $10,000 to subsidize, the manufacturer loses money and there is zero return. This could possibly explain why it is impossible for hybrid cars to survive in a free market economy (at this point). I'm all about hybrid/effiecient cars, I hope someday they actually become affordable.
I mean really, we're only 14 Trillion in debt, clearly we need to make it harder and more expensive to do business in the United States. Any other solution is just ludicrous. We'll just buy things made in another country and resell it here. I mean, thier poluted air will never make it ALL THE WAY over here... No chance. Let the other side of the globe burn to cinders under global warming. Technically, we already have carbon credits... They are called fines.
Get a concealed carry permit.. At least then you have options you didn't have before.
I know it it has some merit, but I would think establishing a perm. moon base would be "what's next". Your only three or four days out, can work out the logistics, effects, communication, etc... See if people really do turn into jellyfish after 6 months in what 1/6 gravity. The only reason I can see for colonizing mars (at this point) is "because". Let's bet on black before we bet on green zero.
It's actually free. Just using interest on all the money that they've loaned out.. So hey, why not? heh.
MOD up. I can't believe most people do not grasp this VERY SIMPLE fact.
It was said he would be tested. Not by a big time republican, it was a democrat (May have heard of him, the vice president of the United States Joe Biden)... ""It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. " Not your fault though, I'm sure Rachael Maddow remembers it that way and just passed it on... No mention of terror attacks. It was more like a foreign leader (Iran in this case) bowing up on the US. I'll not offer an opinion as to wether or not the administration caved or not with Iran (or most countries for that matter). Also to note that the point of terrorism isn't to kill people, it's to remove our freedoms and way of life. Killing people is just an addded bonus. Every few weeks, maybe monthly, we stand in line to remove our own freedoms one at a time. There is very little reason to attack us right now. Until we stop removing our own freedoms, then it's time to step it up again. I'm with you on the fat guys though.
For those that are in favor, answer me this.. Why shouldn't ALL income go to the government first, have all programs paid for, and then (if anything is left over) divided by 340 million is our "new" income. What is your argument against that? Everyone is dancing around the most obvious. We simply can't afford everything we want.
They are used on your behalf to defend the United States which is required by our constitution. If they are misused, then you would have (and probably do) have a point.
My aunts household (2 adults, 1 child). Welfare, social security and food stamps for over 20 years. How are they paying taxes again?
Get WOW, Everquest, Star Wars (Knights), all those folks ported over to IPads, then maybe (Tens of millions of folks)... Then get those to work well on wireless with less than 2g's of video memory...... MMO's will keep the PC world alive for at least another 3-5 years.
Hence the 2nd amendment. Folks, it's not there to protect us from things that go bump in the night. It's to protect the citizens from thier governement. There are MILLIONS of handguns alone in the country, shotguns, rifles everywhere. "Wherever the army is willing to kill the *UNARMED* protesters the state wins. " Libya.
By the way, it wasn't a pledge to Gover Norquist. Niether himself or any group is mentioned in the pledge.
Sedition 1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government. 2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion. 3. Archaic . rebellious disorder. 1: Tea party folks or democrats that have signed the pledge are involved in the process doing nothing illegal. They were voted in by the folks they govern. 2: Maybe this is where your coming from, it's the closest I can come. Poverty (as defined in the US) is way up. Our current jails hold 2.5 million people. The murder rate would be approx 5X of what is currently reported if it wasn't for major advances in medical technology and 911. We are going broke rapidly. Contemplate the "rebellion" if just one day, 45 million folks didn't get thier food stamps. The government is spread too thin and we're up to borrowing $.43 to quell our masses. They are actually PART of the government.. not sure how you rebel against yourself. 3: Mostly, that's what the teaparty is trying to avert. Curious, how does a balanced budget subvert democracy? The tea party got WAY off track, it was suppose to be a social movement around personal responsibility. I used to be a tea party member until there were tea party leaders. At that point, I bailed.