Does anyone have a map/categorization type product of the seemingly uncountable UIs?
To the best of my limited knowledge theres a huge correlation in "the UI gets in your face" with CPU/memory/size requirements. There are very few (no?) UIs in the corners of "just gets out of your way but uses huge resources" and "kinda like a 3-d screensaver except its not a screensaver and it uses no resources".
"Usefulness" / "Productivity" seems to correlate with absolutely nothing at all on a global scale, although individuals scream for their own specific favorite.
The continuum of UIs, in order of light to heavy seems to be:
CLI dash and emergency recovery statically linked shells, etc CLI screen and bash in virtual consoles CLI emacs in virtual consoles Ratpoison (I'm toying with RP, it is Very nice) XFCE (my current desktop of choice) (I think cinnamon goes in this spot, not entirely sure) Gnome KDE
99% of my work (no exaggeration) both at work and home currently is "something small and nearby" with XFCE running a tabbed console/terminal which is SSHed into "something really big and far away" in one virtual window/tab/whatever and another virt window/tab/whatever with firefox + a lot of FF addons/extensions, although I've used everything in the list above at some time in the past 18 or 19 years of linux. Yeah that emacs era was a little awkward...
Did I put cinnamon in the right spot in my little 1-d graph? I'm curious if its actually lighter than XFCE.
How does someone of distantly European ancestry upgrade by moving back? Figure an average/.er, in other words highly skilled/educated but no Nobel prize, plenty of money but not a billionaire, etc. I liked visiting Ireland, although that was before the economic collapse...
You have to specify something that looks like a real name, and select a gender, you mean. They don't run a background check on you or require a notarized sig. The other problem is we're back to... so they know my name, or at least they think they do... um... whatever?
I can summarize that long post to nothing ever gets accomplished in meetings, non-criminal or criminal.
Maybe you'll get to stare at a hot intern. Speaking of which, your best hope is "attending" some all-male meetings (not hard to find in the STEM fields) and then hope to catch some higher up making a "questionable" joke. Another possibility is catching people making fun of others, customers, clients, competitors, etc.
A lot of meetings are about primate dominance rituals, a sociology student Might find them interesting, but otherwise... For example maybe two decades ago I had a completely non-technical female boss in a 99% male highly technical industry who felt extreme need to assert dominance, so once a week we sat down in front of the then new ISDN video conferencing system and blew hundreds of dollars on LD costs listening to her cross examine people far away talking about stuff no one cared about which she didn't understand anyway. This was back when LD was like ten cents per minute per channel, and we used something like 8 ISDN B channels over a PRI to videoconference, which works out to something like $48/hour... per site... in addition to the spectacular labor cost of shutting down the entire multi-site department for hours on end. I figured once that with overhead each meeting was well into the 4 figure cost range, yet nothing ever really happened.
Where do you get the public key? Why is that source more trusted than the source of the SSID?
There was a fad a couple years back of handing out little circuit boards with "stuff" on them at cons. I could see the next HOPE conference handing out ID necklaces with a little cheap USB flash drive as the "I paid my entrance fee" physical token.
At work its simpler, you preload your standard system image with the key.
So you point your 3-d printer's camera at the QR code on the Jenna centerfold, little do you know I stuck a sticker over the real code, and your 3-d printer squirts out (ewww) Mr Goatse...
That's the one thing I'm not sure of. I'm all for downloading one, but where can I get a VIN to make it street legal?
In most states you'll not be surprised to learn there is a form and a nominal fee to have the state assign you one.
Happens ALL the time for homemade custom boat trailers and to a much lesser extent homemade motorcycles and cars.
Its not usually much of an issue. "Red states" stereotypically seem to have a half page form and want like $5, "Blue states" stereotypically seem to have a 30 page form and want $100, but its always possible...
The biggest "problem" you'll encounter is most states have a certain location, size, and technique required to permanently deface the vehicle with the new VIN. Usually engraving a part of the frame meets the legal obligation, but how you engrave the frame ranges from "hold my beer and watch what I do with a dremel" all the way up to strange photoetching techniques.
I've never seen BSD as something that really attracts new users so much as retains existing ones.
Oh it gains users, they just don't know they're using BSD. BSD license instead of GPL means its an anti-social community, where you don't have to contribute back, which is why its much smaller and weaker than the GPL community. But if legal demands that your embedded whatchamacallit be distributed under the BSD instead of GPL then that's how it goes. Usually the best reason you'd "need" the BSD license if you can't figure out a way to decouple a trade secret from the modified source code. The worst reason would be you're violating software patents, know it, and hope that not releasing the source will keep it quiet. Sometimes there's weird philosophical stuff like hating the idea of helping others.
There is a strange "security thru psuedo-obscurity" thing going on too, since BSD is not overly popular.
I never understood how some people were so incredibly aggressively against the team that made the claim. This is how science works!
Its sounds like a classic theorist vs experimentalist battle. The experimentalists are trying to think up all kinds of fun ways to disprove her new theory, because its a pretty wide ranging theory so there is an extremely wide front to attack.
You see a theorist "makes points" by coming up with interesting theories, which she has certainly done. But an experimentalist "makes points" by coming up with interesting experiments, and there sure are a lot of interesting possible experiments to perform in this very wide ranging theory...
Exactly. People with the proper equipment and money fail at this regularly.
I think it is important to arrive at the correct mindset. This has never stopped people from snapping pix at weddings and sporting events and tourist traps, even if their pix look like garbage compared to a pro photo on a postcard or whatever.
If you want to do it for fun, heck yes go for it. Go Go Go. You don't need help just try it.
If you think you'll turn out something that means anything to anyone else in the world, you'll probably be disappointed. Insert stereotype of goans when someone wants to show you old fashioned slides of their vacation. Although that old tech is getting kind of retro cool now.
Ultimately, the goal might be to offer degrees themselves, but that would require significant resources for supervising exams all over the world in order to prevent cheating.
Having taken quite a few accredited online courses and also some certification tests (CCNA, CCNP, stuff like that) they simply push the cost onto the student.
Either drive to a free campus testing center an hour or so away (the proctor was a receptionist) or pay a cert mill testing center $200 for the privilege of using their computer to log into a website for an hour or two while their receptionist watches you.
The student of the future may stop whining about paying $100 for a textbook and start whining about paying $100 for a midterm and final exam proctor.
Several of my online classes were project or essay based and no testing was done...
There are plenty of business education companies that charge thousands of dollars to teach you about any number of proprietary software packages for a few days to a week. You can even get Certified(TM).
I was thinking more along the lines of "buy more than $25 million of our new DEXCS / firewall / router and receive a week of free training for everyone in your engineering department". For some reason the city name Romeoville IL which was for all intents and purposes "suburban Chicago" rings a bell.
In "the good ole days" this was pretty standard. I sat in many a "free" class from Tellabs, Fortinet, DSC, a couple others. Fortinet had a bar in their training room and after class they'd serve you a drink and release the hounds err I mean salespeople. The DSC people came on site which kind of sucked because you didn't get to travel and coworkers would pull you out of class, after all, "you're at work, not away at training". Tellabs had this strange restaurant nearby which mostly served antelope, or was it buffalo, but it wasn't fine dining it was just regular sit down family dining, and I'd never seen an antelope themed restaurant before.
They had no interest what so ever in teaching you basic OSI model or the SDH or TCP window mechanisms, but they would spend all week teaching you the crazy details of their proprietary software.
Sometimes I wonder if the proprietary vendors whining about piracy would make more money if they gave away their software and went full on training and certifying mode. I'm fairly certain the total dollar value of CAD education nationwide exceeds the revenue of CAD vendors nationwide....
Replacing the 30 year old GUI with the 40 year old CLI*.
(*plus autocomplete, yay)
Everything in IT is relentlessly cyclical. In 20 years we'll be scrapping the new CLIs for GUIs, again.
To some extent the "information bandwidth" and/or productivity of GUIs has dropped so low, that trying something like a CLI can only be an improvement.
Also CLIs are a LOT older than 40 years. That barely takes you back to the early 70s.
how will it be monetized, and I don't mean that in a negative way. (also, bad first link in summary)
I have an idea for an interesting, although evil, business model. No idea if these guys are doing this or not. In fact they probably are not.
None the less... there is a long standing business model of giving away or subsidizing training for copyrighted trademarked patented software. What if we had education, but only for certain business method patents? For example, a free crypto class that only taught patented licensed expensive algorithms, and forgot to mention that free algorithms exist? Admittedly this borders on "training" as opposed to "education" but its still possible.
What is their business model? I checked out their page, they've got a couple employees, they're offering stock options to new hires... I'm seeing this as one of those/. jokes: 1. teach a free class at a profitable school 2. quit and teach a free class at a startup 3. ??? 4. Profit!!!!!
"We try to steer clear of things that would attract scrutiny," Labian said. "If people are pirating on our service, we don’t want those people to use it."
So what you're openly admitting is that you just don't know the extent of piracy on your service?
I read it as his service looks at the hosted files to verify they are not pirated material, which would imply his service is inappropriate for internal business use, which is too bad. I'd like a "business fileserver" provider for a little project I'm working on. Obviously I can roll my own with a virtual box provider like linode and sshfs but it would have been nice to just cut someone a check to handle backups and upgrades and general maintenance for us.
here's the brilliant part of that equation: someone had come up with a "login script" idea, that used ntpdate to set the time. So all they had to do was log in to the system and the time would be automatically set.
Now what would be funnier, that login name having to be "root" or having ntpdate SUID root...
i find it more likely that you don't realize that costs you're calling 'corruption' likely include the costs of the support infrastructure (I.E. new power drops, new wiring, etc...) as well as the costs of the charger.
Well yeah, its probably a lot of "this garage is too small for the charger. Lets build a new garage and file it as a charger project expense" and "The owner would just as well hang it on the wall, but my brother owns a trenching company and there's an open spot 50 feet away"
I redid a bunch of plumbing in my basement (heck, most of it) about a decade ago to install a new bathroom while installing an instant hot water heater. That does not mean it costs $2000 to install a hot water heater, but a hack trying a hack job against instant hot water heaters would probably use that stat to "prove"... blah blah. Or a hack trying to prove instant hot water heaters are great would use it as a stat to prove the installation cost was zero, after all, I was remodeling the basement anyway...
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Does anyone have a map/categorization type product of the seemingly uncountable UIs?
To the best of my limited knowledge theres a huge correlation in "the UI gets in your face" with CPU/memory/size requirements. There are very few (no?) UIs in the corners of "just gets out of your way but uses huge resources" and "kinda like a 3-d screensaver except its not a screensaver and it uses no resources".
"Usefulness" / "Productivity" seems to correlate with absolutely nothing at all on a global scale, although individuals scream for their own specific favorite.
The continuum of UIs, in order of light to heavy seems to be:
CLI dash and emergency recovery statically linked shells, etc
CLI screen and bash in virtual consoles
CLI emacs in virtual consoles
Ratpoison (I'm toying with RP, it is Very nice)
XFCE (my current desktop of choice)
(I think cinnamon goes in this spot, not entirely sure)
Gnome
KDE
99% of my work (no exaggeration) both at work and home currently is "something small and nearby" with XFCE running a tabbed console/terminal which is SSHed into "something really big and far away" in one virtual window/tab/whatever and another virt window/tab/whatever with firefox + a lot of FF addons/extensions, although I've used everything in the list above at some time in the past 18 or 19 years of linux. Yeah that emacs era was a little awkward...
Did I put cinnamon in the right spot in my little 1-d graph? I'm curious if its actually lighter than XFCE.
Where do I sign up to vote "yes please"?
How does someone of distantly European ancestry upgrade by moving back? Figure an average /.er, in other words highly skilled/educated but no Nobel prize, plenty of money but not a billionaire, etc. I liked visiting Ireland, although that was before the economic collapse...
You have to specify something that looks like a real name, and select a gender, you mean. They don't run a background check on you or require a notarized sig. ... so they know my name, or at least they think they do... um... whatever?
The other problem is we're back to
I can summarize that long post to nothing ever gets accomplished in meetings, non-criminal or criminal.
Maybe you'll get to stare at a hot intern. Speaking of which, your best hope is "attending" some all-male meetings (not hard to find in the STEM fields) and then hope to catch some higher up making a "questionable" joke. Another possibility is catching people making fun of others, customers, clients, competitors, etc.
A lot of meetings are about primate dominance rituals, a sociology student Might find them interesting, but otherwise... For example maybe two decades ago I had a completely non-technical female boss in a 99% male highly technical industry who felt extreme need to assert dominance, so once a week we sat down in front of the then new ISDN video conferencing system and blew hundreds of dollars on LD costs listening to her cross examine people far away talking about stuff no one cared about which she didn't understand anyway. This was back when LD was like ten cents per minute per channel, and we used something like 8 ISDN B channels over a PRI to videoconference, which works out to something like $48/hour... per site... in addition to the spectacular labor cost of shutting down the entire multi-site department for hours on end. I figured once that with overhead each meeting was well into the 4 figure cost range, yet nothing ever really happened.
I'm a little unclear on the failure mode here. If I am forced to create a G+ page using my real name that I won't use, then, um... well, uh...
Can't the city start a private company and be the sole customer? Are there laws preventing that?
That private company wouldn't be much of a municipal public broadband provider, they'd merely be a really small ISP.
Where do you get the public key? Why is that source more trusted than the source of the SSID?
There was a fad a couple years back of handing out little circuit boards with "stuff" on them at cons. I could see the next HOPE conference handing out ID necklaces with a little cheap USB flash drive as the "I paid my entrance fee" physical token.
At work its simpler, you preload your standard system image with the key.
Note for next revision of the protocol... public key signed SSID names. Or SSL certed SSIDs
When can I download Jenna Haze?
So you point your 3-d printer's camera at the QR code on the Jenna centerfold, little do you know I stuck a sticker over the real code, and your 3-d printer squirts out (ewww) Mr Goatse...
That's the one thing I'm not sure of. I'm all for downloading one, but where can I get a VIN to make it street legal?
In most states you'll not be surprised to learn there is a form and a nominal fee to have the state assign you one.
Happens ALL the time for homemade custom boat trailers and to a much lesser extent homemade motorcycles and cars.
Its not usually much of an issue. "Red states" stereotypically seem to have a half page form and want like $5, "Blue states" stereotypically seem to have a 30 page form and want $100, but its always possible...
The biggest "problem" you'll encounter is most states have a certain location, size, and technique required to permanently deface the vehicle with the new VIN. Usually engraving a part of the frame meets the legal obligation, but how you engrave the frame ranges from "hold my beer and watch what I do with a dremel" all the way up to strange photoetching techniques.
I've never seen BSD as something that really attracts new users so much as retains existing ones.
Oh it gains users, they just don't know they're using BSD. BSD license instead of GPL means its an anti-social community, where you don't have to contribute back, which is why its much smaller and weaker than the GPL community. But if legal demands that your embedded whatchamacallit be distributed under the BSD instead of GPL then that's how it goes. Usually the best reason you'd "need" the BSD license if you can't figure out a way to decouple a trade secret from the modified source code. The worst reason would be you're violating software patents, know it, and hope that not releasing the source will keep it quiet. Sometimes there's weird philosophical stuff like hating the idea of helping others.
There is a strange "security thru psuedo-obscurity" thing going on too, since BSD is not overly popular.
I never understood how some people were so incredibly aggressively against the team that made the claim. This is how science works!
Its sounds like a classic theorist vs experimentalist battle. The experimentalists are trying to think up all kinds of fun ways to disprove her new theory, because its a pretty wide ranging theory so there is an extremely wide front to attack.
You see a theorist "makes points" by coming up with interesting theories, which she has certainly done. But an experimentalist "makes points" by coming up with interesting experiments, and there sure are a lot of interesting possible experiments to perform in this very wide ranging theory...
Exactly. People with the proper equipment and money fail at this regularly.
I think it is important to arrive at the correct mindset. This has never stopped people from snapping pix at weddings and sporting events and tourist traps, even if their pix look like garbage compared to a pro photo on a postcard or whatever.
If you want to do it for fun, heck yes go for it. Go Go Go. You don't need help just try it.
If you think you'll turn out something that means anything to anyone else in the world, you'll probably be disappointed. Insert stereotype of goans when someone wants to show you old fashioned slides of their vacation. Although that old tech is getting kind of retro cool now.
Ultimately, the goal might be to offer degrees themselves, but that would require significant resources for supervising exams all over the world in order to prevent cheating.
Having taken quite a few accredited online courses and also some certification tests (CCNA, CCNP, stuff like that) they simply push the cost onto the student.
Either drive to a free campus testing center an hour or so away (the proctor was a receptionist) or pay a cert mill testing center $200 for the privilege of using their computer to log into a website for an hour or two while their receptionist watches you.
The student of the future may stop whining about paying $100 for a textbook and start whining about paying $100 for a midterm and final exam proctor.
Several of my online classes were project or essay based and no testing was done...
There are plenty of business education companies that charge thousands of dollars to teach you about any number of proprietary software packages for a few days to a week. You can even get Certified(TM).
I was thinking more along the lines of "buy more than $25 million of our new DEXCS / firewall / router and receive a week of free training for everyone in your engineering department". For some reason the city name Romeoville IL which was for all intents and purposes "suburban Chicago" rings a bell.
In "the good ole days" this was pretty standard. I sat in many a "free" class from Tellabs, Fortinet, DSC, a couple others. Fortinet had a bar in their training room and after class they'd serve you a drink and release the hounds err I mean salespeople. The DSC people came on site which kind of sucked because you didn't get to travel and coworkers would pull you out of class, after all, "you're at work, not away at training". Tellabs had this strange restaurant nearby which mostly served antelope, or was it buffalo, but it wasn't fine dining it was just regular sit down family dining, and I'd never seen an antelope themed restaurant before.
They had no interest what so ever in teaching you basic OSI model or the SDH or TCP window mechanisms, but they would spend all week teaching you the crazy details of their proprietary software.
Sometimes I wonder if the proprietary vendors whining about piracy would make more money if they gave away their software and went full on training and certifying mode. I'm fairly certain the total dollar value of CAD education nationwide exceeds the revenue of CAD vendors nationwide....
Replacing the 30 year old GUI with the 40 year old CLI*.
(*plus autocomplete, yay)
Everything in IT is relentlessly cyclical. In 20 years we'll be scrapping the new CLIs for GUIs, again.
To some extent the "information bandwidth" and/or productivity of GUIs has dropped so low, that trying something like a CLI can only be an improvement.
Also CLIs are a LOT older than 40 years. That barely takes you back to the early 70s.
how will it be monetized, and I don't mean that in a negative way. (also, bad first link in summary)
I have an idea for an interesting, although evil, business model. No idea if these guys are doing this or not. In fact they probably are not.
None the less... there is a long standing business model of giving away or subsidizing training for copyrighted trademarked patented software.
What if we had education, but only for certain business method patents?
For example, a free crypto class that only taught patented licensed expensive algorithms, and forgot to mention that free algorithms exist?
Admittedly this borders on "training" as opposed to "education" but its still possible.
What is their business model? I checked out their page, they've got a couple employees, they're offering stock options to new hires... I'm seeing this as one of those /. jokes:
1. teach a free class at a profitable school
2. quit and teach a free class at a startup
3. ???
4. Profit!!!!!
Is the plan to operate on donations, or ... ?
Like... Professional pirates?
Somalians?
"We try to steer clear of things that would attract scrutiny," Labian said. "If people are pirating on our service, we don’t want those people to use it."
So what you're openly admitting is that you just don't know the extent of piracy on your service?
I read it as his service looks at the hosted files to verify they are not pirated material, which would imply his service is inappropriate for internal business use, which is too bad. I'd like a "business fileserver" provider for a little project I'm working on. Obviously I can roll my own with a virtual box provider like linode and sshfs but it would have been nice to just cut someone a check to handle backups and upgrades and general maintenance for us.
Cookies should require warrants.
It would have been a funny ending if the whole thing had been encouraged by a 3rd party.
here's the brilliant part of that equation: someone had come up with a "login script" idea, that used ntpdate to set the time. So all they had to do was log in to the system and the time would be automatically set.
Now what would be funnier, that login name having to be "root" or having ntpdate SUID root...
i find it more likely that you don't realize that costs you're calling 'corruption' likely include the costs of the support infrastructure (I.E. new power drops, new wiring, etc...) as well as the costs of the charger.
Well yeah, its probably a lot of "this garage is too small for the charger. Lets build a new garage and file it as a charger project expense" and "The owner would just as well hang it on the wall, but my brother owns a trenching company and there's an open spot 50 feet away"
I redid a bunch of plumbing in my basement (heck, most of it) about a decade ago to install a new bathroom while installing an instant hot water heater. That does not mean it costs $2000 to install a hot water heater, but a hack trying a hack job against instant hot water heaters would probably use that stat to "prove" ... blah blah. Or a hack trying to prove instant hot water heaters are great would use it as a stat to prove the installation cost was zero, after all, I was remodeling the basement anyway...
-8 Drinking heavily and its not phasing out
-9 Ridiculously hot women and its not phasing out
-10 Draft dodging and its phased out.