No one goes out for american food either. Unless you count hamburgers and deep fried meat related products. AKA junk food. American may be good at exporting culture, but your 'cuisine' doesn't compare well.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Try again.
slow cooked pork bar-be-que in a whiskey and brown sugar sauce.
Ye olde Maine Lobster Roll
Baaaaahhstan style baked beans (that would be boston, with a incomprehensible accent)
Most "italian" food is not "italian" but actually American. Spaghetti and meatballs. Deep dish pizza. Mac n Cheese.
Philly Cheese steak
New England Fruit Cobblers.
Texas Chilli
California sushi roll.
Shrimp Tacos from San Diego or LA or Valley Girls or whatever.
You'll open a huge can of worms if you claim that most of an American "Chinese restaurant menu" was invented here in the US, not China. Yeah, I think they probably fried rice before we did, but lots of the weirder stuff on the menu is pure American. If you go to China their food is not exactly like the "Chinese food" we have here. Of course I could probably say the same thing about Mexico and Taco Bell.
Pretty much when it comes to "American foods" the goofier the local accent the better the cuisine. If you're hearing midwestern network news anchor speak, you're lucky to get Applebees or Culvers (which is pretty tasty food, anyway).
Nobody says, "Hey lets go out for some Canadian tonight."
Here's some real answers, knowing that there will be 100 joke posts about canadian bacon.
One word, "poutine". Its an experience. It actually tastes pretty good. Gravy and cheese hashbrowns, more or less.
Butter Tarts and Donair are close runners up. Both are ripoffs of other nation cuisines... a Butter Tart is just a particular flavor of tart, that being the flavor of grease (big deal), and a Donair if I recall correctly, is a really tasty copy of a greek gyro but with garlic salad dressing instead of cucumber sauce, and the meat is "something else" like beef or something (caribou?), note that beef and onions with garlic seasoning on bread is not all that innovative.
The mysterious part is I can't think of any "canadian food" that is not fast food or junk food. Don't ya'll have anything unique that is not served at a drive-thru?
I make infrequent, but regular trips of > 400 miles.
Rental. Been there, done that. Frankly, if I'm moving something big and heavy I'd prefer to mess up the heavily insured rental rather than my daily driver anyway. Besides its fun to drive something new once in a while. I've rented and driven a giant F-350 duallie, the GMC equivalent diesel truck, and several different "moving vans".
If you're just moving yourself, you're better off taking public transport like a plane, and renting a car at the site. Or, if available, rent a completely impractical but fun car, like a convertible (impracticality depends on your local climate)
The coolest thing about rentals is for practically no money they provide all the insurance and AAA service you can imagine. I'd much rather have a rental break down half way thru a 400 mile trip than my daily driver.
Having worked with large industrial scale battery chargers for forklifts and telco C.O.s in the past, I see there is around a 5x to 10x corruption level going on there.
I'm sure its possible for there to be $5K of profit on the table ready to be taken, but corruption doesn't prove the actual cost is that high.
The malls/some stores around here have special parking spots for hybrid/electric cars that are closer to the entrance than the handicapped spots in some cases..... Driving an EV does not make you more worthy of a parking spot than anyone else.
It does. You/everyone is paying a couple bucks per foot for that buried heavy gauge wire, so the closer the charger is to the entrance, the less you are paying the electrician, who is paid by the mall owner, who is paid by the shopkeeper, who is paid by... you.
So its in everyones financial best interests to have the charger as close to the building as possible. Even if you drive a gas guzzler.
The only people who benefit by putting it further away are the copper wire manufacturers.
Well lets get the standard arguments out of the way so newer, more interesting discussions can happen
1) It ONLY GOES 150 MILES? I always drive 151 miles per trip, even if its only to the corner store I drive around the block 604 times because I love to drive! Why my commute is over 5 hours per day, each way, because I'm a True American (TM) and you "30 minute commute" people are wimps, democrats, terrorists, or whatever..
2) If it can't charge in 5 minutes its dead to me. I only sleep in 3 hour shifts before moving to a new location because the T9000 is after me, so it would never get a chance to charge and I only travel to and from places that have no AC power service because otherwise my tinfoil hat sparks excessively.
3) One model vehicle cannot meet the needs of all buyers, therefore all electric vehicles are useless, because one model of gasoline car meets all human needs. What you say, there are more than one model of gas vehicle? Oh.
4) It doesn't work too well below -40 degrees C/F so I can't buy it. Sure, I live in southern Florida, but I'm worried about resale value. Oh you say my gas vehicle doesn't work too well at -40 either? So what, everyone knows that, I just felt the need to point this out about electrical cars, because I'm sure none of you lowly serfs would think of that yourselves.
5) My gas car's SLI battery was carefully engineered to fail in 3 years to maximize corporate profits, and surprise, surprise, it fails every 3 years. I'm sure an electric car will fail in 3 years too, and I don't care if the average Prius battery was engineered to last the life of the car, and in fact it does last the life of the car, you can't force me to think so I won't. Nahh naahhh nahhhhhh! I don't believe in engineering and you shouldn't either.
6) I will not be satisfied until an automated robot tentacle snakes out of the wall and plugs itself into the charger socket, mostly because I want to watch youtube videos of what the tentacle inserts in women wearing miniskirts. I don't care if everyone north of the mason dixon line already has a block heater and battery heater and battery trickle charger and they perfectly successfully use it every time it gets below zero, because I'm certain no one will ever be able to plug a car in when they park, after all, I don't, so no one in the whole universe every has, can, or will.
7) What is the charger connector going to be, there is no standard. I don't care if there actually is a perfectly good deployed standard which I could find on wikipedia if I wanted, I just like to post this every singe time there is an electric car article. Also, did you know there is no standard low voltage DC connector? Oh wait, there is. Oh how I love to post this over and over.
8) Thousands of american military personnel have died for oil, and its disrespectful of their memory not to burn as much gasoline as humanly possible, after all you don't want their relatives to think they died for nothing. My Chinese imported yellow support the troops ribbon sticker on the trunk of my 8 MPG SUV absolves me of all guilt, much like purchasing a pre-reformation indulgence.
I think that'll do it, does anyone have anything NEW to offer to the standard lineup of/. electric car stories?
Marketing? It's maybe not the _last_ of RIM's problems, but it's pretty low on the list.
when my new workplace issued me with one
RIM... its the microsoft of cellphones. Absolutely no one wants it and would never, ever, buy it for themselves, but they "need it for work".
They don't NEED traditional marketing at all in that environment. All they need to do is convince about 500 people at about 500 fortune 500 companies... etc
In the field, a microcontroller is just a processor with onboard usually static memory, so this thing is pretty close to a microcontroller. Anyone know of any other microcontroller type chipsets that use dynamic ram?
Besides, Buddhism does teach bizarre things about rebirth and such, and as an atheist I don't understand how that makes any sense at all.
I was thinking of Stephen Batchelor and his books about sort-of-secular Buddhism... you'd probably like some of his books, I do. Quoting his "confessions of an buddhist atheist" would appear to be completely unclear under their law.
The future is already here, its just unevenly distributed. This will be coming to the USA soon, although with christian PR, its just not here yet. Give it time.
Also the guy is an idiot. Don't just make a statement, issue a challenge, like "If god existed he would strike me with lightning". That makes for a much more entertaining court trial.
In particular, will the neighbors enjoy the continuous howling of the AC fans?
That and the dual 1 megawatt diesel generators, which are test run once a week for an hour during 3rd shift, mostly to keep 3rd shift awake... They're a little bit quieter than a locomotive at full throttle, but not much.
Another important point is this is only a couple hundred miles from my home, and unless things are wildly different there than here, the "urban skyscraper area", hospital, police dept, etc are snowplowed out every 30 minutes during storms, but residential? Eh, maybe an hour or two after the storm ends, they'll think of plowing it out. So they have no access in or out of the building during a snow storm. Whoops.
Finally all the DCs I've worked with/at had underground feeders. No big deal in the urban area or farmland, but in McMansion-ville you're going to seriously annoy the neighbors constantly digging up their rosebushes.
Of course, they are probably not installing a "real" data center, because a FTTH provider does not require one, my guess is they're probably installing a single rack (or less) of gear as part of some tax or zoning or building code dodge. Maybe zoning doesn't allow a sales office, tech center, or warehouse, but they Really Want one, so they'll install a "data center" instead which happens to coincidentally have a sales dept, warehouse. tech dispatch center, etc, located in the same building.
Luckily thru a combination of ageism and contract law, those problems are almost gone already. Lets say you've got a decade window of productivity between "too young and inexperienced" and "too old". If housing prices have been in a freefall for "around 5 years" we're already halfway thru that crisis.
BTW, If we get rid of publishers, we lose the editor.
No, the prof becomes the editor. I had a microwave RF class where the prof gave us a page of this, a page of that, etc etc. Probably did add up to 1000 pages by the end of class. He did extort a $20 bill from each of us to pay for the photocopier, but it was better than buying a textbook.
I would like to see a mashup app where the textbook could be created out of little sources. Here's a 10 page article about smith charts that'll be 50 cents. Click here to add the free 3 page wikipedia article about basic microstripline design. Click here to add a 3 page standardized set of smith chart practical exercises...
limited it to 128K. If I calculate the numbers its only using about 20K which is weird. I have I2P and freenet and VOIP and a ton of other things trying to share the same bandwidth.
I was in a class with about 5 other people I could relate to, 20 people that were basically just running out the clock until they could go home, and 5 criminals that really shouldn't have even been there if attendance wasn't compulsory. It was pretty miserable...
In other words, diversity in peers is a good thing.
At least 20 years ago, and maybe even today, they worked hard to eliminate that in regular high school.
Everyone who wanted to be an engineer took 3st hour second year physics together. Everyone who wanted to go into hard sciences took 1st hour calculus together. You get the idea. Even "non-academic" classes like gym class ended up with the same crowd... you'd think it would be a cross section but we can't take gym 1st hour because we're all in calc, and can't take gym 3rd hour because we're all in physics, so everyone in 2nd hour gym was going to university into the hard sciences blah blah blah. Guess the subcultural makeup of the sci-fi class? The only people gadget-geekier than computer people in ye olde days was the photography people and we all seemed to be in that class together too. I had one or two hours free for electives, took an intro to drafting class, you'd expect that to be vo-tech but half the class was wanna-be future mech-engs.
Go to a big enough school and you do not even have physical contact with the jocks, thugs, idiots, etc. Maybe you'd see them in the halls once?
Of-course a real trade school would have real masters of trade teaching, and since masters of trade prefer to do trade, rather than to waste time teaching doofuses, there won't be any real masters in that 'trade school', which automatically means it won't be worth it
Having been there, and obviously met many "masters of trade" while there, most of them were frankly handicapped or had more of a "parental" or "teacher" personality than the stereotypical psychopath "manager" personality, so in an "up or out" company they got the "out". Or they ran their own business into the ground, in which case I wouldn't take entrepreneur classes off them, but they were expert techs. Or they had "family problems" and thats the end of 60 hour work weeks, hmm, here is a nice 30 hour per week teaching gig... Or stress problems, doc says chill out or die, hmm maybe I'll calmly lecture about dBmV vs dB vs dBmW till I die hopefully much further in the future. Handicapped doesn't necessarily mean you're missing a leg, but includes things like back problems that eliminate ability to stand, hearing problems, vision problems... You can become a master electrician around age 30, but the average age of my instructors was probably about 60.
The intense ageism thing we have going in C.S and here on/. doesn't really apply in the real world outside of C.S. Supposedly something biochemical happens such that a guy over the age of 25 could never dream of learning Ruby, but vo-tech people seem to learn new stuff well into their 80s, so...
I'm curious nobody mentioned STEM schools... we have those in my district, I won't let my kids go, other than future employment opportunities not existing, there seems to be nothing terribly wrong with them.
This school sounds an awful lot like a STEM school without the "S" and "E". A "TM" school. Does this sound about correct? I wonder if they already have STEM schools in NYC?
Oh, I've seen jobs for BSCS grads. Pulling cat-5 cable for $8/hr (union electricians can do it, but want $30/hr), helpdesk replacing broken keyboards for $9/hr... Just awesome.
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No one goes out for american food either. Unless you count hamburgers and deep fried meat related products. AKA junk food. American may be good at exporting culture, but your 'cuisine' doesn't compare well.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt. Try again.
slow cooked pork bar-be-que in a whiskey and brown sugar sauce.
Ye olde Maine Lobster Roll
Baaaaahhstan style baked beans (that would be boston, with a incomprehensible accent)
Most "italian" food is not "italian" but actually American. Spaghetti and meatballs. Deep dish pizza. Mac n Cheese.
Philly Cheese steak
New England Fruit Cobblers.
Texas Chilli
California sushi roll.
Shrimp Tacos from San Diego or LA or Valley Girls or whatever.
You'll open a huge can of worms if you claim that most of an American "Chinese restaurant menu" was invented here in the US, not China. Yeah, I think they probably fried rice before we did, but lots of the weirder stuff on the menu is pure American. If you go to China their food is not exactly like the "Chinese food" we have here. Of course I could probably say the same thing about Mexico and Taco Bell.
Pretty much when it comes to "American foods" the goofier the local accent the better the cuisine. If you're hearing midwestern network news anchor speak, you're lucky to get Applebees or Culvers (which is pretty tasty food, anyway).
Now look, you've made me hungry.
Nobody says, "Hey lets go out for some Canadian tonight."
Here's some real answers, knowing that there will be 100 joke posts about canadian bacon.
One word, "poutine". Its an experience. It actually tastes pretty good. Gravy and cheese hashbrowns, more or less.
Butter Tarts and Donair are close runners up. Both are ripoffs of other nation cuisines... a Butter Tart is just a particular flavor of tart, that being the flavor of grease (big deal), and a Donair if I recall correctly, is a really tasty copy of a greek gyro but with garlic salad dressing instead of cucumber sauce, and the meat is "something else" like beef or something (caribou?), note that beef and onions with garlic seasoning on bread is not all that innovative.
The mysterious part is I can't think of any "canadian food" that is not fast food or junk food. Don't ya'll have anything unique that is not served at a drive-thru?
I make infrequent, but regular trips of > 400 miles.
Rental. Been there, done that. Frankly, if I'm moving something big and heavy I'd prefer to mess up the heavily insured rental rather than my daily driver anyway. Besides its fun to drive something new once in a while. I've rented and driven a giant F-350 duallie, the GMC equivalent diesel truck, and several different "moving vans".
If you're just moving yourself, you're better off taking public transport like a plane, and renting a car at the site. Or, if available, rent a completely impractical but fun car, like a convertible (impracticality depends on your local climate)
The coolest thing about rentals is for practically no money they provide all the insurance and AAA service you can imagine. I'd much rather have a rental break down half way thru a 400 mile trip than my daily driver.
which can run $2,000 - 7,000 per charger,
Having worked with large industrial scale battery chargers for forklifts and telco C.O.s in the past, I see there is around a 5x to 10x corruption level going on there.
I'm sure its possible for there to be $5K of profit on the table ready to be taken, but corruption doesn't prove the actual cost is that high.
Leonid Ksanfomaliti, ...claims to have found signs of life...objects resembling ... a scorpion
I haven't heard the Scorpions since the 80s. They were pretty good in their niche. Is this a reunion tour?
The malls/some stores around here have special parking spots for hybrid/electric cars that are closer to the entrance than the handicapped spots in some cases. .... Driving an EV does not make you more worthy of a parking spot than anyone else.
It does. You/everyone is paying a couple bucks per foot for that buried heavy gauge wire, so the closer the charger is to the entrance, the less you are paying the electrician, who is paid by the mall owner, who is paid by the shopkeeper, who is paid by ... you.
So its in everyones financial best interests to have the charger as close to the building as possible. Even if you drive a gas guzzler.
The only people who benefit by putting it further away are the copper wire manufacturers.
Well lets get the standard arguments out of the way so newer, more interesting discussions can happen
1) It ONLY GOES 150 MILES? I always drive 151 miles per trip, even if its only to the corner store I drive around the block 604 times because I love to drive! Why my commute is over 5 hours per day, each way, because I'm a True American (TM) and you "30 minute commute" people are wimps, democrats, terrorists, or whatever..
2) If it can't charge in 5 minutes its dead to me. I only sleep in 3 hour shifts before moving to a new location because the T9000 is after me, so it would never get a chance to charge and I only travel to and from places that have no AC power service because otherwise my tinfoil hat sparks excessively.
3) One model vehicle cannot meet the needs of all buyers, therefore all electric vehicles are useless, because one model of gasoline car meets all human needs. What you say, there are more than one model of gas vehicle? Oh.
4) It doesn't work too well below -40 degrees C/F so I can't buy it. Sure, I live in southern Florida, but I'm worried about resale value. Oh you say my gas vehicle doesn't work too well at -40 either? So what, everyone knows that, I just felt the need to point this out about electrical cars, because I'm sure none of you lowly serfs would think of that yourselves.
5) My gas car's SLI battery was carefully engineered to fail in 3 years to maximize corporate profits, and surprise, surprise, it fails every 3 years. I'm sure an electric car will fail in 3 years too, and I don't care if the average Prius battery was engineered to last the life of the car, and in fact it does last the life of the car, you can't force me to think so I won't. Nahh naahhh nahhhhhh! I don't believe in engineering and you shouldn't either.
6) I will not be satisfied until an automated robot tentacle snakes out of the wall and plugs itself into the charger socket, mostly because I want to watch youtube videos of what the tentacle inserts in women wearing miniskirts. I don't care if everyone north of the mason dixon line already has a block heater and battery heater and battery trickle charger and they perfectly successfully use it every time it gets below zero, because I'm certain no one will ever be able to plug a car in when they park, after all, I don't, so no one in the whole universe every has, can, or will.
7) What is the charger connector going to be, there is no standard. I don't care if there actually is a perfectly good deployed standard which I could find on wikipedia if I wanted, I just like to post this every singe time there is an electric car article. Also, did you know there is no standard low voltage DC connector? Oh wait, there is. Oh how I love to post this over and over.
8) Thousands of american military personnel have died for oil, and its disrespectful of their memory not to burn as much gasoline as humanly possible, after all you don't want their relatives to think they died for nothing. My Chinese imported yellow support the troops ribbon sticker on the trunk of my 8 MPG SUV absolves me of all guilt, much like purchasing a pre-reformation indulgence.
I think that'll do it, does anyone have anything NEW to offer to the standard lineup of /. electric car stories?
that Google does this for altruistic reasons. Where is the snake under the grass ?
Profit. They don't want to be known as the search provider to be avoided because they point to link farmers / aggregators / web spammers.
If 90% of power users actively decide to block site X because it completely sucks when logged in using
http://www.google.com/reviews/t?hl=en
Then they may as well block that site for everybody.
Marketing? It's maybe not the _last_ of RIM's problems, but it's pretty low on the list.
when my new workplace issued me with one
RIM... its the microsoft of cellphones. Absolutely no one wants it and would never, ever, buy it for themselves, but they "need it for work".
They don't NEED traditional marketing at all in that environment. All they need to do is convince about 500 people at about 500 fortune 500 companies... etc
In the field, a microcontroller is just a processor with onboard usually static memory, so this thing is pretty close to a microcontroller.
Anyone know of any other microcontroller type chipsets that use dynamic ram?
Besides, Buddhism does teach bizarre things about rebirth and such, and as an atheist I don't understand how that makes any sense at all.
I was thinking of Stephen Batchelor and his books about sort-of-secular Buddhism ... you'd probably like some of his books, I do. Quoting his "confessions of an buddhist atheist" would appear to be completely unclear under their law.
"If God existed, he would teach you compassion." Seriously, play to win.
Why post that as AC?
Oh wait I just figured it out, he lives in freaking Indonesia. That makes sense now.
"If God existed, he would teach you compassion." Seriously, play to win.
Why post that as AC? That's freaking brilliant. Would it be an improvement on yours to suggest he would teach tolerance or forgiveness?
Indonesia ... recognises the right to practice six religions ... Buddhism ... Atheism is, however, illegal.
Isn't this kind of contradictory?
The future is already here, its just unevenly distributed. This will be coming to the USA soon, although with christian PR, its just not here yet. Give it time.
Also the guy is an idiot. Don't just make a statement, issue a challenge, like "If god existed he would strike me with lightning". That makes for a much more entertaining court trial.
In particular, will the neighbors enjoy the continuous howling of the AC fans?
That and the dual 1 megawatt diesel generators, which are test run once a week for an hour during 3rd shift, mostly to keep 3rd shift awake... They're a little bit quieter than a locomotive at full throttle, but not much.
Another important point is this is only a couple hundred miles from my home, and unless things are wildly different there than here, the "urban skyscraper area", hospital, police dept, etc are snowplowed out every 30 minutes during storms, but residential? Eh, maybe an hour or two after the storm ends, they'll think of plowing it out. So they have no access in or out of the building during a snow storm. Whoops.
Finally all the DCs I've worked with/at had underground feeders. No big deal in the urban area or farmland, but in McMansion-ville you're going to seriously annoy the neighbors constantly digging up their rosebushes.
Of course, they are probably not installing a "real" data center, because a FTTH provider does not require one, my guess is they're probably installing a single rack (or less) of gear as part of some tax or zoning or building code dodge. Maybe zoning doesn't allow a sales office, tech center, or warehouse, but they Really Want one, so they'll install a "data center" instead which happens to coincidentally have a sales dept, warehouse. tech dispatch center, etc, located in the same building.
Luckily thru a combination of ageism and contract law, those problems are almost gone already. Lets say you've got a decade window of productivity between "too young and inexperienced" and "too old". If housing prices have been in a freefall for "around 5 years" we're already halfway thru that crisis.
BTW, If we get rid of publishers, we lose the editor.
No, the prof becomes the editor. I had a microwave RF class where the prof gave us a page of this, a page of that, etc etc.
Probably did add up to 1000 pages by the end of class. He did extort a $20 bill from each of us to pay for the photocopier, but it was better than buying a textbook.
I would like to see a mashup app where the textbook could be created out of little sources. Here's a 10 page article about smith charts that'll be 50 cents. Click here to add the free 3 page wikipedia article about basic microstripline design. Click here to add a 3 page standardized set of smith chart practical exercises...
limited it to 128K. If I calculate the numbers its only using about 20K which is weird.
I have I2P and freenet and VOIP and a ton of other things trying to share the same bandwidth.
I was in a class with about 5 other people I could relate to, 20 people that were basically just running out the clock until they could go home, and 5 criminals that really shouldn't have even been there if attendance wasn't compulsory. It was pretty miserable...
Good preparation for the workplace?
In other words, diversity in peers is a good thing.
At least 20 years ago, and maybe even today, they worked hard to eliminate that in regular high school.
Everyone who wanted to be an engineer took 3st hour second year physics together. Everyone who wanted to go into hard sciences took 1st hour calculus together. You get the idea. Even "non-academic" classes like gym class ended up with the same crowd... you'd think it would be a cross section but we can't take gym 1st hour because we're all in calc, and can't take gym 3rd hour because we're all in physics, so everyone in 2nd hour gym was going to university into the hard sciences blah blah blah. Guess the subcultural makeup of the sci-fi class? The only people gadget-geekier than computer people in ye olde days was the photography people and we all seemed to be in that class together too. I had one or two hours free for electives, took an intro to drafting class, you'd expect that to be vo-tech but half the class was wanna-be future mech-engs.
Go to a big enough school and you do not even have physical contact with the jocks, thugs, idiots, etc. Maybe you'd see them in the halls once?
Of-course a real trade school would have real masters of trade teaching, and since masters of trade prefer to do trade, rather than to waste time teaching doofuses, there won't be any real masters in that 'trade school', which automatically means it won't be worth it
Having been there, and obviously met many "masters of trade" while there, most of them were frankly handicapped or had more of a "parental" or "teacher" personality than the stereotypical psychopath "manager" personality, so in an "up or out" company they got the "out". Or they ran their own business into the ground, in which case I wouldn't take entrepreneur classes off them, but they were expert techs. Or they had "family problems" and thats the end of 60 hour work weeks, hmm, here is a nice 30 hour per week teaching gig... Or stress problems, doc says chill out or die, hmm maybe I'll calmly lecture about dBmV vs dB vs dBmW till I die hopefully much further in the future. Handicapped doesn't necessarily mean you're missing a leg, but includes things like back problems that eliminate ability to stand, hearing problems, vision problems... You can become a master electrician around age 30, but the average age of my instructors was probably about 60.
The intense ageism thing we have going in C.S and here on /. doesn't really apply in the real world outside of C.S. Supposedly something biochemical happens such that a guy over the age of 25 could never dream of learning Ruby, but vo-tech people seem to learn new stuff well into their 80s, so...
I'm curious nobody mentioned STEM schools... we have those in my district, I won't let my kids go, other than future employment opportunities not existing, there seems to be nothing terribly wrong with them.
This school sounds an awful lot like a STEM school without the "S" and "E". A "TM" school. Does this sound about correct? I wonder if they already have STEM schools in NYC?
Second oldest is prepping for law school, even though at the moment I know more law than he does.
Prepare for him to move back into the basement after graduation... placement rates are worse than C.S. if you can believe that.
Maybe its not too late to switch over to forensic accounting or something like that?
Oh, I've seen jobs for BSCS grads. Pulling cat-5 cable for $8/hr (union electricians can do it, but want $30/hr), helpdesk replacing broken keyboards for $9/hr... Just awesome.