Creepy is what the 4chan crowd are going to do to these poor people, and then post screen caps for LOLs. I hope they're well paid for what they're probably about to go thru.
After you think you've created a unified field theory of all three types of bacon in the universe, you find that weird vegetarian bacon made out of strips of fried bean flour in the freezer case at the health food store, resulting in Nobel prizes for all.
Complete would probably mean "it works for everything we know about" and consistent means "we've not found out anything yet that yields a contradiction".
Turns out that both are time dependent. You meant to say "it works for everything we CURRENTLY know about".
Example: Newtons laws of motion were perfectly complete until the 1800s, to the best of my knowledge. Then some weirdness was discovered as relates to thermal emission specra, electron emission from hot metals, some radioactivity issues, etc.
You could probably simplify your argument to logical theories are simple enough to be believed unmodifiable over time, but physics is not. No puttering around with test tubes will ever falsify a math equation, although historically is has falsified physics and chemistry equations.
For example, take the commonly known Math equation 1+1=2. This appears to be correct to the Math student, but then the Physics student comes along and says "Umm, exactly HOW do you expect me to believe that 1 apple + 1 orange = 2 slashdot Trolls?". It's how the equation is applied that determines if it is correct or not.
Not a proof because you're mixing units.
No better than trying to convince a math major that 1 + 1 = 2 is wrong because 1 degree of arc + 1 radian of arc does not equal 2 gradients of arc. Or that stating binary 1 plus binary 1 actually equals binary 10 so 1 + 1 = 2 is false.
but at some point I accepted that we'll never get to the bottom. It's an infinite regress.
Two other scientific models exist.
Maybe it'll end up more like the early days of chemistry, where it was finally determined there are only a hundred or so elements and even counting individual isotopes there are only a couple hundred unique atoms, and individual atoms have a certain finite, although very small, size. At least from the standpoint of chemistry, its practical to talk about minimum theoretical concentrations being "one per beaker", or everything is based on just a couple hundred types of atoms, and no smaller exists, at least as long as you want to call it "chemistry".
Or maybe more like biology, where the number of species that exist, or even ever have existed, is extremely large, way beyond what "we" could ever know, but as long as we limit ourselves to Earth-based biology it's obviously inherently finite (just infinite on a practical basis). An "infinite" regress would definitely terminate as long as the research happened faster than evolution made new species.
(deleted plan to spend hundreds of dollars to talk on the phone)
... what would you recommend?"
My other post gave a technical recommendation to answer your exact question.
My "real" recommendation is your priorities are totally screwed up. Hundreds of dollars equals about a hundred six-packs of tolerable beer or bottles of cheap booze, and college girls like parties with alcohol. Hundreds of dollars equals around a hundred or so keg parties (you know, a plastic cup costs $5, and the keg is over there surrounded by lonely college girls). Trust me that "traditional dating" of college girls is somewhat cheaper than post-college girls, so hundreds of dollars equals at least dozens of traditional movie and dinner dates. Hundreds of dollars equals some nice wardrobe additions, and college girls like a well dressed stylish man (but don't go all overboard). Hundreds of dollars would easily pay for a year long gym membership, and college girls like a healthy looking guy and they like to talk to guys at the gym. You may notice a common theme to my numerous examples of better ways to spend your money. Now decades later, you can reminisce about all the fun you had with your numerous girlfriends in those wild and crazy college years, or you can have an obsolete broken phone with a dead battery in a box in the basement, your choice... And if you're trying to meet guys, my advice stays the same, with different pronoun genders or whatever.
I am looking for something that can make and receive calls to and from landlines with incoming call notification.
You'll have problems tunneling thru the marketing, which in the telecom industry is slathered on very thickly with a spatula, kind of like paint on a Chinese made machine tool. A WIFI phone? Oh you mean a Skype phone. Or do you mean UMA or UBA or whatever the heck? Its more formally known as a confuse-opoly, where the market colludes to confuse the customers into being ripped off. Be careful, those guys aren't much above used car salesmen when it comes to ethics and marketing.
That said:
I've bought stuff from voipsupply and they're a reputable dealer. They have an entire freaking category for WIFI sip phones, I'm sure you'll like one of them. Eventually I'll buy one of them for my asterisk PBX at home. I've been saying that for at least half a decade now, but I will eventually buy one, I promise.
Voicepulse's antifraud techniques are a bit of a pain to deal with, even a simple credit card change requires signed FAXes, etc. And their porting process required documentation reminded me of when I got my passport. Their dumbed down residential service did not seem to meet my needs, so I signed up as a "small business", where they just give me SIP trunks and otherwise leave me alone, which is exactly what I wanted. Also, speaking of SIP, those bastards lured me in by providing IAX which worked great over my NAT and firewall, and then promptly discontinued IAX and forced conversion to SIP which is a huge pain to NAT and firewall. The main (only?) reason I chose them over their competitors was IAX support, so I was quite pissed off. Other than that, I have nothing else to complain about, they're a reliable provider, it "just works", etc. The only reason I didn't dump them like a hot potato when they dropped IAX was their service has been reliable. God help me if I so much as have the smallest excuse I'm off to an IAX provider. But so far so good.
One big problem is my "pay as you go" cellphone provider nickel and dimes me, but it ends up only being about $10/month long term average. So, replacing my cellphone with a decent industrial/commercial grade wifi sip phone, costs around 2 or 3 years of cellphone service. So its hard to justify, except in the original poster's situation (or mine) where there is poor cell service at home. Also quite frankly, if I'm at home, I have my wired and cordless SIP phones, and if I'm at work I have work phones, and if I'm in my car I'm not supposed to be talking, and most places I go I'm not supposed to be talking on the phone (movie theater, etc) so paying hundreds of dollars to add another 9 to 99.9% coverage is a total waste for me.
I've been waiting to connect to my 8M Cable modem with 100GE for a while now. Finally, no more bottleneck!
The inter-router links that connect your CMTS back at the headend might, eventually, be 100GE. 100GE would be about 12K customers at full blast. With reasonable oversubscription ratios, figure the headend for a small city, or "a major portion" of a large city.
On the other hand moon colonies "sub earth longitude" only varies about a degree every two hours.
Err, if the earth didn't rotate, I mean. More like 15 degrees per hour plus or minus some rounding error for all non-earth orbit colonies. Pluto closest to 15 degrees/hr, moon furthest off.
In HTML5, the browser returns the latitude and longitude of the user to Javascript. Shouldn't the browser also return the planet, local star etc?
How will ISS visitors browse?
They have a lattitude and longitude just like the rest of us. It just varies rather quickly, a degree of longitude every twenty seconds, or so.. On the other hand moon colonies "sub earth longitude" only varies about a degree every two hours.
Do sailors, without adblock, get endless banner ads "hot girls in The Middle Of The Atlantic Ocean want to meet YOU!"
capability of the new technology compared to 80s technology is worlds apart.
Other than because you say so, can you come up with any details to your argument or any concrete example? Just one?
The address bus has more bits. The clock cycle time is shorter. Oh wow man I'll never be able to wrap my ancient mind around that. Oh wait, I've been doing just that, every year, for decades.
Like I posted, find me a NEW technology. You can't.
Is it? Or do the old-timers just not get new technology?
The kids think some rehashed ancient concept from the 70s or 80s with a new marketing campaign, or same old stuff tweaked by the engineers now with improved specs, is "new technology".
I know about IBM VM OS from the 80s, so I know everything about Xen/KVM/etc except the new marketing spin and the command line syntax.
I know pascal p-code virtual machine system from the 70s, so I know everything about the java virtual machine concept except the new marketing spin and the command line syntax.
The kids are trying to wrap their heads around the very concept of virtual machines, or the very concept of clustering, or the very basic concept of parallelization/threading. I did that back in the 80s, its old technology to me, not new.
Same &#!^ different day with "high level language of the week (tm)", client-server processing, middleware, packetized data networks, etc.
Is there any "new technology" out there to get, that I didn't get decades ago with a different marketing campaign and different command line syntax?
So, what are typical age discrimination activities?
I've worked myself into a pleasant niche position, with literally most of my fellow employees being older than I am, and I'm rapidly approaching the big 40, so I literally don't know.
Other than blatant stupidity, like kids walking around chanting "old people suck! old people suck!" or refusal to hired based on grayness, what exactly is a culture for 40-year-olds?
The 20s I have worked with whine like little punks about how management wants them clean and sober and on time early in the morning, don't they know they "had to" close the bar last night? They don't even get it that whining to me is a waste of time since I don't do stupid stuff anymore. They don't whine about age discrimination, but bad judgment / bad time management like that is pretty much a kid thing, so its pseudo-age discrimination.
The 30s that I'm in and work with are constantly taking sick days because of their kids, and holidays/summer-time/snow days are absolute chaos with those folks. Again they don't whine about age discrimination, but kids interfering with work is mostly a 30s problem, plus or minus a decade or so.
As for the old folks... I don't really know how the company hassles them / soon to be me... Like... removing the 401K match contribution? or company wide crappy catastrophe only health insurance, which does seem oriented toward the kids? No free geritol in the lunchroom although there's free coffee?
Perhaps MSM likes Twitter because it's the equivalent of 1,000 monkeys with 1,000 typewriters. There are so many people saying so many things, that they can likely find a quote that states whatever they want to state, but they then get to claim somebody else said it.
I disagree. Look at the timeline for a story. Read about the shoutcast/VLC issue today on slashdot, it might hit mainstream in a week, then a day or two later someone I'm following tweets the "breaking news". Thanks dude. That's right up there with the guy who just noticed the Darth Vader is Lukes father, for those of us who don't know.
The car market has gone the same way - they all look pretty much the same - dictated by the laws of aerodynamics
Laws of marketing, definitely not laws of aerodynamics. Combined with a desperate desire for conformity, same end result, so it doesn't matter too much.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that changing marketing trends over the years means the laws of aerodynamics are evolving or something.
In order to stay in Apple's graces, Infineon must do everything necessary to help the hardware and software play well together, including staffing permanent engineers in Cupertino or sending a team overnight from Germany. Do you think Intel does this for Dell?"
To the best of my knowledge, dell is at most an assembler of parts, at their least they're a rebrander. I would agree there is utterly no point in stationing VLSI engineers and RF analysts at Dell, because those guys belong at the board level designers and board manufacturers.
It would be pointless overkill; like GM stationing a permanent automotive engineer at my local car dealership to oversee oil changes.
I also thought it interesting that Dell is closing the last of their assembly plants in the USA. Kind of hard to call it an American company if everything they do is overseas, except the expensive overhead of upper management. I would not anticipate a bright future for Dell because their only differentiation against their foreign competition would be extremely expensive upper management compared to their competitors.
My thinking is that NATing on IPv6 will continue to be OK for security reasons
My thinking is we're going to see massive namespace pollution in the marketing world. Since most people use "nat security" as basically a complicated as heck one way valve, and its "expensive" to do nat compared to simple state based firewalls, I suspect the marketing droids are going to get simple state based firewalls that only allow outgoing connections from engineering, and then sell them as "ipv6 NAT" even though theres no address translation going on.
After all, its the same as ipv6 NAT because it allows you to connect your lan to the internet and it only allows outgoing connections, so it must be marketed with the same name.
Who cares if the engineers know that NAT actually means something.
And when it happens, you can say you saw it here on slashdot, first.
Slashdot Mirror
1D cellular automata? Otherwise known as "Mathematician's Plaid".
http://psoup.math.wisc.edu/mcell/ca_gallery.html
Speaking of "Mathematician's Plaid" does anyone in the wonderful world of slashdot know where I could get fabric with a CA pattern?
Facebook's 400 million users
Nice word selection. Like "crack user" or "inhalant user".
I tried facebook for 6 months, I really tried hard. Then I evaluated what I got out of it. Which was absolutely nothing. Deleted account.
Creepy is what the 4chan crowd are going to do to these poor people, and then post screen caps for LOLs. I hope they're well paid for what they're probably about to go thru.
o it would be worth $30-$40 for someone to show you around for a couple of hours.
In vegas, I'm told the cab drivers perform this function. Seriously.
And, on the internet, theres a wiki for everything:
http://wikitravel.org/en/Main_Page
Overall, they have a healthier and less conflicted society.
What could possibly make you think our leadership elite has those goals for us proles?
After you think you've created a unified field theory of all three types of bacon in the universe, you find that weird vegetarian bacon made out of strips of fried bean flour in the freezer case at the health food store, resulting in Nobel prizes for all.
Complete would probably mean "it works for everything we know about" and consistent means "we've not found out anything yet that yields a contradiction".
Turns out that both are time dependent. You meant to say "it works for everything we CURRENTLY know about".
Example: Newtons laws of motion were perfectly complete until the 1800s, to the best of my knowledge. Then some weirdness was discovered as relates to thermal emission specra, electron emission from hot metals, some radioactivity issues, etc.
You could probably simplify your argument to logical theories are simple enough to be believed unmodifiable over time, but physics is not. No puttering around with test tubes will ever falsify a math equation, although historically is has falsified physics and chemistry equations.
For example, take the commonly known Math equation 1+1=2. This appears to be correct to the Math student, but then the Physics student comes along and says "Umm, exactly HOW do you expect me to believe that 1 apple + 1 orange = 2 slashdot Trolls?". It's how the equation is applied that determines if it is correct or not.
Not a proof because you're mixing units.
No better than trying to convince a math major that 1 + 1 = 2 is wrong because 1 degree of arc + 1 radian of arc does not equal 2 gradients of arc. Or that stating binary 1 plus binary 1 actually equals binary 10 so 1 + 1 = 2 is false.
but at some point I accepted that we'll never get to the bottom. It's an infinite regress.
Two other scientific models exist.
Maybe it'll end up more like the early days of chemistry, where it was finally determined there are only a hundred or so elements and even counting individual isotopes there are only a couple hundred unique atoms, and individual atoms have a certain finite, although very small, size. At least from the standpoint of chemistry, its practical to talk about minimum theoretical concentrations being "one per beaker", or everything is based on just a couple hundred types of atoms, and no smaller exists, at least as long as you want to call it "chemistry".
Or maybe more like biology, where the number of species that exist, or even ever have existed, is extremely large, way beyond what "we" could ever know, but as long as we limit ourselves to Earth-based biology it's obviously inherently finite (just infinite on a practical basis). An "infinite" regress would definitely terminate as long as the research happened faster than evolution made new species.
"I am planning on heading to a university ...
(deleted plan to spend hundreds of dollars to talk on the phone)
... what would you recommend?"
My other post gave a technical recommendation to answer your exact question.
My "real" recommendation is your priorities are totally screwed up. Hundreds of dollars equals about a hundred six-packs of tolerable beer or bottles of cheap booze, and college girls like parties with alcohol. Hundreds of dollars equals around a hundred or so keg parties (you know, a plastic cup costs $5, and the keg is over there surrounded by lonely college girls). Trust me that "traditional dating" of college girls is somewhat cheaper than post-college girls, so hundreds of dollars equals at least dozens of traditional movie and dinner dates. Hundreds of dollars equals some nice wardrobe additions, and college girls like a well dressed stylish man (but don't go all overboard). Hundreds of dollars would easily pay for a year long gym membership, and college girls like a healthy looking guy and they like to talk to guys at the gym. You may notice a common theme to my numerous examples of better ways to spend your money. Now decades later, you can reminisce about all the fun you had with your numerous girlfriends in those wild and crazy college years, or you can have an obsolete broken phone with a dead battery in a box in the basement, your choice... And if you're trying to meet guys, my advice stays the same, with different pronoun genders or whatever.
I am looking for something that can make and receive calls to and from landlines with incoming call notification.
You'll have problems tunneling thru the marketing, which in the telecom industry is slathered on very thickly with a spatula, kind of like paint on a Chinese made machine tool. A WIFI phone? Oh you mean a Skype phone. Or do you mean UMA or UBA or whatever the heck? Its more formally known as a confuse-opoly, where the market colludes to confuse the customers into being ripped off. Be careful, those guys aren't much above used car salesmen when it comes to ethics and marketing.
That said:
I've bought stuff from voipsupply and they're a reputable dealer. They have an entire freaking category for WIFI sip phones, I'm sure you'll like one of them. Eventually I'll buy one of them for my asterisk PBX at home. I've been saying that for at least half a decade now, but I will eventually buy one, I promise.
http://www.voipsupply.com/ip-phones/wi-fi
And the upstream SIP provider my asterisk PBX connects to is voicepulse. I would assume any "SIP wifi phone" could connect to voicepulse.
http://voicepulse.com/
Voicepulse's antifraud techniques are a bit of a pain to deal with, even a simple credit card change requires signed FAXes, etc. And their porting process required documentation reminded me of when I got my passport. Their dumbed down residential service did not seem to meet my needs, so I signed up as a "small business", where they just give me SIP trunks and otherwise leave me alone, which is exactly what I wanted. Also, speaking of SIP, those bastards lured me in by providing IAX which worked great over my NAT and firewall, and then promptly discontinued IAX and forced conversion to SIP which is a huge pain to NAT and firewall. The main (only?) reason I chose them over their competitors was IAX support, so I was quite pissed off. Other than that, I have nothing else to complain about, they're a reliable provider, it "just works", etc. The only reason I didn't dump them like a hot potato when they dropped IAX was their service has been reliable. God help me if I so much as have the smallest excuse I'm off to an IAX provider. But so far so good.
One big problem is my "pay as you go" cellphone provider nickel and dimes me, but it ends up only being about $10/month long term average. So, replacing my cellphone with a decent industrial/commercial grade wifi sip phone, costs around 2 or 3 years of cellphone service. So its hard to justify, except in the original poster's situation (or mine) where there is poor cell service at home. Also quite frankly, if I'm at home, I have my wired and cordless SIP phones, and if I'm at work I have work phones, and if I'm in my car I'm not supposed to be talking, and most places I go I'm not supposed to be talking on the phone (movie theater, etc) so paying hundreds of dollars to add another 9 to 99.9% coverage is a total waste for me.
You'd be insane to do a project like this with a SQL backend
Why? His spec was for "a few thousand" locations.
There is probably a way to provide some "job security" by making it extremely complicated to develop and deploy, but thats not necessarily sane.
I've been waiting to connect to my 8M Cable modem with 100GE for a while now. Finally, no more bottleneck!
The inter-router links that connect your CMTS back at the headend might, eventually, be 100GE. 100GE would be about 12K customers at full blast. With reasonable oversubscription ratios, figure the headend for a small city, or "a major portion" of a large city.
On the other hand moon colonies "sub earth longitude" only varies about a degree every two hours.
Err, if the earth didn't rotate, I mean. More like 15 degrees per hour plus or minus some rounding error for all non-earth orbit colonies. Pluto closest to 15 degrees/hr, moon furthest off.
In HTML5, the browser returns the latitude and longitude of the user to Javascript. Shouldn't the browser also return the planet, local star etc?
How will ISS visitors browse?
They have a lattitude and longitude just like the rest of us. It just varies rather quickly, a degree of longitude every twenty seconds, or so.. On the other hand moon colonies "sub earth longitude" only varies about a degree every two hours.
Do sailors, without adblock, get endless banner ads "hot girls in The Middle Of The Atlantic Ocean want to meet YOU!"
capability of the new technology compared to 80s technology is worlds apart.
Other than because you say so, can you come up with any details to your argument or any concrete example? Just one?
The address bus has more bits. The clock cycle time is shorter. Oh wow man I'll never be able to wrap my ancient mind around that. Oh wait, I've been doing just that, every year, for decades.
Like I posted, find me a NEW technology. You can't.
It'll get you a lot further than the kids whom have no clue about the nature of a multi-tier system, especially when it comes to troubleshooting time.
Is it? Or do the old-timers just not get new technology?
The kids think some rehashed ancient concept from the 70s or 80s with a new marketing campaign, or same old stuff tweaked by the engineers now with improved specs, is "new technology".
I know about IBM VM OS from the 80s, so I know everything about Xen/KVM/etc except the new marketing spin and the command line syntax.
I know pascal p-code virtual machine system from the 70s, so I know everything about the java virtual machine concept except the new marketing spin and the command line syntax.
The kids are trying to wrap their heads around the very concept of virtual machines, or the very concept of clustering, or the very basic concept of parallelization/threading. I did that back in the 80s, its old technology to me, not new.
Same &#!^ different day with "high level language of the week (tm)", client-server processing, middleware, packetized data networks, etc.
Is there any "new technology" out there to get, that I didn't get decades ago with a different marketing campaign and different command line syntax?
So, what are typical age discrimination activities?
I've worked myself into a pleasant niche position, with literally most of my fellow employees being older than I am, and I'm rapidly approaching the big 40, so I literally don't know.
Other than blatant stupidity, like kids walking around chanting "old people suck! old people suck!" or refusal to hired based on grayness, what exactly is a culture for 40-year-olds?
The 20s I have worked with whine like little punks about how management wants them clean and sober and on time early in the morning, don't they know they "had to" close the bar last night? They don't even get it that whining to me is a waste of time since I don't do stupid stuff anymore. They don't whine about age discrimination, but bad judgment / bad time management like that is pretty much a kid thing, so its pseudo-age discrimination.
The 30s that I'm in and work with are constantly taking sick days because of their kids, and holidays/summer-time/snow days are absolute chaos with those folks. Again they don't whine about age discrimination, but kids interfering with work is mostly a 30s problem, plus or minus a decade or so.
As for the old folks ... I don't really know how the company hassles them / soon to be me ... Like... removing the 401K match contribution? or company wide crappy catastrophe only health insurance, which does seem oriented toward the kids? No free geritol in the lunchroom although there's free coffee?
And they probably think that Jesse James was an outlaw from the 1800's.
Jesse Jane? Oh we know her. Oh, you said Jesse James. My mistake.
Perhaps MSM likes Twitter because it's the equivalent of 1,000 monkeys with 1,000 typewriters. There are so many people saying so many things, that they can likely find a quote that states whatever they want to state, but they then get to claim somebody else said it.
I disagree. Look at the timeline for a story. Read about the shoutcast/VLC issue today on slashdot, it might hit mainstream in a week, then a day or two later someone I'm following tweets the "breaking news". Thanks dude. That's right up there with the guy who just noticed the Darth Vader is Lukes father, for those of us who don't know.
A better reason to hate Twitter is the obsolete 140-character limit
which in most cases also makes them vapid.
There is a large industry focused around making vapid two hour long movies.
The problem is not brevity.
The car market has gone the same way - they all look pretty much the same - dictated by the laws of aerodynamics
Laws of marketing, definitely not laws of aerodynamics. Combined with a desperate desire for conformity, same end result, so it doesn't matter too much.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that changing marketing trends over the years means the laws of aerodynamics are evolving or something.
In order to stay in Apple's graces, Infineon must do everything necessary to help the hardware and software play well together, including staffing permanent engineers in Cupertino or sending a team overnight from Germany. Do you think Intel does this for Dell?"
To the best of my knowledge, dell is at most an assembler of parts, at their least they're a rebrander. I would agree there is utterly no point in stationing VLSI engineers and RF analysts at Dell, because those guys belong at the board level designers and board manufacturers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#Manufacturing
It would be pointless overkill; like GM stationing a permanent automotive engineer at my local car dealership to oversee oil changes.
I also thought it interesting that Dell is closing the last of their assembly plants in the USA. Kind of hard to call it an American company if everything they do is overseas, except the expensive overhead of upper management. I would not anticipate a bright future for Dell because their only differentiation against their foreign competition would be extremely expensive upper management compared to their competitors.
My thinking is that NATing on IPv6 will continue to be OK for security reasons
My thinking is we're going to see massive namespace pollution in the marketing world. Since most people use "nat security" as basically a complicated as heck one way valve, and its "expensive" to do nat compared to simple state based firewalls, I suspect the marketing droids are going to get simple state based firewalls that only allow outgoing connections from engineering, and then sell them as "ipv6 NAT" even though theres no address translation going on.
After all, its the same as ipv6 NAT because it allows you to connect your lan to the internet and it only allows outgoing connections, so it must be marketed with the same name.
Who cares if the engineers know that NAT actually means something.
And when it happens, you can say you saw it here on slashdot, first.