I don't text FB or tweet, but wouldn't the destroyer of SMS be the twitter smartphone app, not FB? Isn't twitter via app closer in concept to SMS than FB?
Could be an argument for the FB borg adsorbing everything trivial and mundane, this specifically looking at messaging being adsorbed..
"just" makes it sounds like thats a bad thing. That's excellent science. Professional and respectable and my hats off to Dr Masters
Part 2
and does not surmise anything about the causes
Well, I think there's little disagreement that a "large" fraction is human caused, although obviously some small fraction is natural variation. "natural climate" is not a flat horizontal line as some demand.
Part 3
or what should be done about it.
Excellent. Usually part 3 is the establishment of a neo-pol pot regime, or national socialism, or some financial scam to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, or most commonly meaningless feel good frippery that will do absolutely nothing but "raise awareness".
I'm opposed to most of those solutions, along with a HUGE percentage of people who are in, or in my case have been abandoned by, the Republican party. Despite my/our disagreement being with Part 3, we get slandered and our words are twisted around into being deniers of Part 1 or Part 2. Very annoying. I will admit that at least some of us basically troll for fun by denying part 1 and part 2 above, because we hate the "solutions" to part 3.
OK... a waveguide is exactly like a single mode optical fiber, but for much lower frequencies. If the waveguide is too small for the wave you wanna shove into it, it doesn't fit (cutoff). Look into your microwave oven... the microwaves don't stay inside because of the glass, but because they can't fit thru the holes in the screen door inside the glass.
Pitiful analogy is its like walking around in a funhouse full of mirrors while expecting wall power to radiate out of a power cord like a laser into the laptop charger on the other side of the room. Maybe a better analogy is find the crappiest most echo filled architecture you've ever experienced and try to have a conversation next to a loud generator.
Filling your walls with BBQ charcoal and grounding it would probably work "OK", or at least better than nothing.
At microwave-range freqs finding a good absorber is no picnic as they tend to be annoyingly freq dependent. I had one piece of comm gear operating around 3 GHz that insisted on oscillating whenever I placed the cover on the enclosure... I tried all the usual conductive foams on the cover and it just wouldn't work. I ended up repackaging the amplifiers into smaller enclosures inside the main system enclosure with a cutoff freq much higher than 3 GHz. PITA and expensive.
Bring in the healthy stuff. A lot of it tastes like crap.. but occasionally you find something that is either acceptable or in some cases better than the unhealthy stuff.
"healthy substitute" for junk food like a "healthy cookie-like substitute" or a "healthy ice cream-like substitute" or a "tofu-turkey" is always going to taste unbelievably awful.
Food that is more or less evolutionarily similar to what our ancient ancestors ate, like maybe a grilled steak with a side salad, or a nice stir fry, or perhaps a fresh orange, apple, grape and berry salad tastes mind numbingly delicious.
The standard/. car analogy is 50K people die in car accidents annually, its illegal to drive without seatbelts, therefore seatbelts are a waste of money.
The cost of a whole home UPS/surge protectors is going to be rather more than the equipment it protects.
Whole house UPS, yes, thats some dough. Whole house surge protector, absolutely not. You're looking at about $200 for the device, maybe 2-3 times that for installation (to do it RIGHT). Even retail home depot it would be hard to blow more than $400 total for the device plus all parts.
I suppose if you go by the/.er stereotype where mom's basement has a 5 gallon drum as a chair, a $89 special monitor with a bare incandescent bulb over the monitor hanging by the wires for illumination and a $899 graphics card that is probably not going to get blown out by lightning, then whole house is probably not worth it.
One huge problem is its not "buy it and forget it" you will have to replace it eventually, where eventually depends on how much lighting you get.
They get installed inline with the main house circuit breaker panel. Expensive.
Most people budget for the $$$ for the device. Then they forget the labor to do it right, and always forget to spend the $$$ for a good ground connection.
Talk to your local RF/microwave EE about waveguides and cutoff freqs and operating way the heck above cutoff. You won't like what you'll hear.
I almost guarantee you'll be constructing an efficient waveguide system in the lower VHF region, maybe UHF in hallways, depends on design. My open plan bachelor pad probably would have made a decent 20 meter ham band waveguide, but my little dorm room in college would have been more like 6M waveguide. Anyway this is probably going to increase noise levels. Even worse, because its cutoff is so low, you're going to multimode like hell and probably not be able to receive anything, even strong local signals. So an extra 20 dB of noise in the SNR plus massive multipath? no thanks..
Check the address of the linked website. In the midwest, Bar/Restaurants vastly outnumber bars-only plus restaurants-only combined. Alcohol only facilities are extremely rare in my area, even if all they offer is fryer food and sandwiches, they sell at least some chow.
1) You aren't likely to get any if you're in the socioeconomic class that can only afford McD or taco bell. Coffee shop is infinitely more culturally acceptable. 2) You almost certainly are not in the $150/plate steakhouse socioeconomic class if you're in high school, unless its prom night. 3) Therefore two high school kids on a date, in the midwest, are almost certainly dining at a Bar/Restaurant.
I guess in some parts of the country its illegal for underage people to be on the premises of a bar? That must cut into sales even worse than smoking bans.
The linked "tavern" (copyright 2004 so the prices are only 8 years out of date) seems to be a restaurant/bar. Fairly common in the midwest for "casual family dining". I would further extend that to I've only seen 3 classes of restaurants here in the midwest, the $50+/seat with no bar but full bar service for the diners, the $20/seat casual family dining eatery with a bar nearby the entrance, and the dollar menu fast food joints (mc donalds, etc)
If you're "out with a date on friday night" (stereotypically unlikely here on/.) and there's a wait to be seated, the bar is always open for a quick drink and some (occasionally free) appetizers... If you're having a going away party at the bar, or surprisingly meet up with your best friend at the bar, or pick up a chick at the bar but she wants to eat before going to your bachelor pad(stereotypically unlikely here on/.), you walk over to a restaurant booth and have dinner. I am not a sports guy but I'm told some guys spend an entire football sunday walking from restaurant table for lunch, bar for afternoon game, and dinner at the restaurant again, followed sometimes by more drinking at the bar. So bar/restaurants are pretty convenient.
Often the separation between bar, cocktail table, and restaurant tables/booths is very flexible. You can order and eat a burger at the bar, or just drink at a restaurant table, or either at a cocktail table, and the staff are cool with it, as long as the money rolls in.
It is a huge headache for the servers to figure out who is allowed to drink and who is not allowed to drink.
Could simply lock out the selection button for 24 hours. That eliminates all refund issues because for the next 24 hours no one can select that song. This does open the considerable risk of having to hear an annoying song exactly once every 24 hours.
Music is by far the most boring application of this "media banishment system", especially at an exercise club or waiting room.
I would love to see this applied to TV News and the financial news shills and the weather channel. Oh god not another "it bleeds it leads" hit skip. Not another kitten in tree saved by firefighters. The commentator on CNBC right now is a real estate shill.... flushing sound.... Onsight live broadcast breathlessly reporting "its raining" zapped.
The main problem is there's a million recorded songs out there, the bar flies cannot possibly block them all even if they were sober and cooperated. But unleash this on the financial news channels and a small team could literally wipe the slate clean of all stories leaving a blank screen or test pattern. Its very likely that if you zap all the video news releases, and network entertainment news self promotions, and celebrity news, and pointless human interest stories, there is nothing left in a typical newscast.
I'm worried about the shovelware. Will ten antiviruses and junk like that be in a removable ubuntu package or will it be too deeply embedded into the OS to remove?
Your party is not always right. The other party is not always wrong. Politics should not be a "my team's better than yours" shouting match.
If the strategy is divide and conquer, that's going to go against the grain of the entire sociopolitical system.
There is only one party, the rich guys party. There are two totally different PR campaigns with wildly different strategies, but once one or the other works (doesn't matter which) then its back to one party rule.
Here is a simpler question: when can I, an individual citizen, shut down wireless communication?
That's easy, just call in an anonymous tip that there's something that goes "boom" attached to a cellphone, obviously.
This in itself is an interesting attack vector. You see, this will train people that when the cell service goes down, that means they are in extremely close proximity to a bomb thats about to go off, TSA goons are about to swoop in and beat everyone in sight, etc.
So the "real" attack vector is to build and plant absolutely nothing, select a nice crowded area, call in a completely fake threat, get wireless service shut off, resulting panic by 80K football fans all trying to instantly simultaneously frantically escape a stadium thats about to go boom or whatever, results in dozens if not hundreds of deaths by trampling... and the beauty of it is the government did it to themselves by fearmongering to gain power, and the attackers can be sitting on the other side of the planet using the wonders of modern telecommunications. Or it can be a false flag operation, of course, which is probably the largest source of terrorist attacks anyway.
Once you teach people and the government that cell outages mean nothing by doing this a couple times, then you start doing it for real, of course, which adds to the excitement.
Do you think I should quit my day job and become a hollywood writer or maybe a security consultant? Both jobs just seem to boil down to streaming out some scarey bs in exchange for piles of money.
How, exactly, do you know they work that way? That makes no sense to me. One intelligent design is every time the phone rx a txt message, the reset button on a 5 minute timer is pushed. So 5 minutes after they decide to stop sending texts, or 5 minutes after the phone network is shut down, boom. Seems blindingly obvious to a programmer type. No reason the boom can't be a "OR" function of the txt timer OR a plain ole phone call.
All I can say is cellphone telemarketers must be a headache for people who design and deploy the real thing...
7. The Western governments are not fascist. You should learn a little more before speaking on that topic. The USA has nude beaches, Casinos, no secret police that check if people are married or correct gendered, alcohol and tobacco laws are enforced by locals not the feds. In short this is more nonsense you are spewing.
LOL don't know much about the US, well that's OK. Some of your stuff is actually pretty funny, but some is dangerously wrong to someone who doesn't know any better like the bit about there being no federal alcohol and tobacco laws, as a warning to anyone who doesn't know, that kind of stuff is hyper regulated by the feds and pretty heavily enforced too (all the locals do is check IDs to see if you're old enough, and occasionally have weird zoning type laws about when and where you can sell) Maybe a better way to describe it is the cruise ship experience would horrify a paleoconservative from Utarrrh yet simultaneously also bore the heck out of someone from Vegas. Can't please everyone all the time.
I don't think vlm was espousing the list as his opinion, he was just summarizing..
Yeah I was making fun of them too. Lots of people who've clearly never been on a non-cruiseship boat, but are none the less naval experts, naval engineers, navy sailors, admiralty law laywers... I'm certainly also no expert, but I've met and hung out with experts like that enough to absolutely laugh at some of the strange ideas I've seen in these posts.
The funniest one was some dude implying that a life in what amounts to a floating hackerspace is going to result in endless exepnsive helicopter medivacs, as if it'll be more dangerous than living on a oil drilling platform. "mayday mayday pan pan sos sos and all that shite help us coast guard we need a medivac because my buddy got a papercut and I ran out of energy drinks and the caffeine withdrawal headache is killing me!" Somehow, I'm thinking they'll be just fine.
I admit I'm torn... you're going to have the best and the brightest and most motiviated.. on the other hand they'll probably be from poor countries... on the other hand you'll have plenty of people that don't want the well known USA "warm welcome" of treating every visitor as a terrorist criminal so they'll be plenty of wealthy Europeans on board its not all going to be 3rd world sweatshop conditions... on the other hand they'll probably be scratching for every dollar they can get... on the other hand have you seen the insane dumps that some nerds/geeks/freaks turn their homes into... On the other hand the purpose of living nearby the VCs is obviously for the VCs to visit, and they aren't going to want to meet in the town dump or the middle of the town sewage treatment plant, so its gotta be at least kinda nice.
At that point the cramped conditions, poor maintenance, foul sanitation
I LOLed, lets face it, we all know plenty of rich american landlubber, never set foot off american dirt,/.er types who would also miserably fail a health inspection of their apartment, or, heck, their workspace. Yet also plenty of ex-mil/.ers who still make hospital corners on their beds every morning. Thats before we get started with the OCD types who run "sync" three times before every reboot and wash their hands 50 times per day. I think it'll probably all end up as "not a whole hell of a lot different than living on land".
I don't text FB or tweet, but wouldn't the destroyer of SMS be the twitter smartphone app, not FB? Isn't twitter via app closer in concept to SMS than FB?
Could be an argument for the FB borg adsorbing everything trivial and mundane, this specifically looking at messaging being adsorbed..
Part 1
It just presents the data
"just" makes it sounds like thats a bad thing. That's excellent science. Professional and respectable and my hats off to Dr Masters
Part 2
and does not surmise anything about the causes
Well, I think there's little disagreement that a "large" fraction is human caused, although obviously some small fraction is natural variation. "natural climate" is not a flat horizontal line as some demand.
Part 3
or what should be done about it.
Excellent. Usually part 3 is the establishment of a neo-pol pot regime, or national socialism, or some financial scam to make the rich richer and the poor poorer, or most commonly meaningless feel good frippery that will do absolutely nothing but "raise awareness".
I'm opposed to most of those solutions, along with a HUGE percentage of people who are in, or in my case have been abandoned by, the Republican party. Despite my/our disagreement being with Part 3, we get slandered and our words are twisted around into being deniers of Part 1 or Part 2. Very annoying. I will admit that at least some of us basically troll for fun by denying part 1 and part 2 above, because we hate the "solutions" to part 3.
OK... a waveguide is exactly like a single mode optical fiber, but for much lower frequencies. If the waveguide is too small for the wave you wanna shove into it, it doesn't fit (cutoff). Look into your microwave oven... the microwaves don't stay inside because of the glass, but because they can't fit thru the holes in the screen door inside the glass.
Pitiful analogy is its like walking around in a funhouse full of mirrors while expecting wall power to radiate out of a power cord like a laser into the laptop charger on the other side of the room. Maybe a better analogy is find the crappiest most echo filled architecture you've ever experienced and try to have a conversation next to a loud generator.
Filling your walls with BBQ charcoal and grounding it would probably work "OK", or at least better than nothing.
At microwave-range freqs finding a good absorber is no picnic as they tend to be annoyingly freq dependent. I had one piece of comm gear operating around 3 GHz that insisted on oscillating whenever I placed the cover on the enclosure... I tried all the usual conductive foams on the cover and it just wouldn't work. I ended up repackaging the amplifiers into smaller enclosures inside the main system enclosure with a cutoff freq much higher than 3 GHz. PITA and expensive.
Apples help you poop.
Eat an apple, clean your colon.
Yeah, the hard part is having to wait in line at the iStore for 24 hours to buy one. Be sure to set the phone ring to "vibrate" for extra fun.
Bring in the healthy stuff. A lot of it tastes like crap.. but occasionally you find something that is either acceptable or in some cases better than the unhealthy stuff.
"healthy substitute" for junk food like a "healthy cookie-like substitute" or a "healthy ice cream-like substitute" or a "tofu-turkey" is always going to taste unbelievably awful.
Food that is more or less evolutionarily similar to what our ancient ancestors ate, like maybe a grilled steak with a side salad, or a nice stir fry, or perhaps a fresh orange, apple, grape and berry salad tastes mind numbingly delicious.
The standard /. car analogy is 50K people die in car accidents annually, its illegal to drive without seatbelts, therefore seatbelts are a waste of money.
often even come with offers of an 'insurance policy/guarantee' built in for the value of your home electronics if they do get fried
Those are carefully written to be absolutely unclaimable. You'd have better luck just using the best buy replacement program (sarc tag)
The cost of a whole home UPS/surge protectors is going to be rather more than the equipment it protects.
Whole house UPS, yes, thats some dough. Whole house surge protector, absolutely not. You're looking at about $200 for the device, maybe 2-3 times that for installation (to do it RIGHT). Even retail home depot it would be hard to blow more than $400 total for the device plus all parts.
I suppose if you go by the /.er stereotype where mom's basement has a 5 gallon drum as a chair, a $89 special monitor with a bare incandescent bulb over the monitor hanging by the wires for illumination and a $899 graphics card that is probably not going to get blown out by lightning, then whole house is probably not worth it.
One huge problem is its not "buy it and forget it" you will have to replace it eventually, where eventually depends on how much lighting you get.
They get installed inline with the main house circuit breaker panel. Expensive.
Most people budget for the $$$ for the device. Then they forget the labor to do it right, and always forget to spend the $$$ for a good ground connection.
Dell is not that stupid.
LOL !
finally, a reality TV show I'd want to watch.
Ungrounded Faraday cage aka antenna just makes it worse. Just close the steel rack door and you'll be all good.
Talk to your local RF/microwave EE about waveguides and cutoff freqs and operating way the heck above cutoff. You won't like what you'll hear.
I almost guarantee you'll be constructing an efficient waveguide system in the lower VHF region, maybe UHF in hallways, depends on design. My open plan bachelor pad probably would have made a decent 20 meter ham band waveguide, but my little dorm room in college would have been more like 6M waveguide. Anyway this is probably going to increase noise levels. Even worse, because its cutoff is so low, you're going to multimode like hell and probably not be able to receive anything, even strong local signals. So an extra 20 dB of noise in the SNR plus massive multipath? no thanks..
Check the address of the linked website. In the midwest, Bar/Restaurants vastly outnumber bars-only plus restaurants-only combined. Alcohol only facilities are extremely rare in my area, even if all they offer is fryer food and sandwiches, they sell at least some chow.
1) You aren't likely to get any if you're in the socioeconomic class that can only afford McD or taco bell. Coffee shop is infinitely more culturally acceptable.
2) You almost certainly are not in the $150/plate steakhouse socioeconomic class if you're in high school, unless its prom night.
3) Therefore two high school kids on a date, in the midwest, are almost certainly dining at a Bar/Restaurant.
I guess in some parts of the country its illegal for underage people to be on the premises of a bar? That must cut into sales even worse than smoking bans.
The linked "tavern" (copyright 2004 so the prices are only 8 years out of date) seems to be a restaurant/bar. Fairly common in the midwest for "casual family dining". I would further extend that to I've only seen 3 classes of restaurants here in the midwest, the $50+/seat with no bar but full bar service for the diners, the $20/seat casual family dining eatery with a bar nearby the entrance, and the dollar menu fast food joints (mc donalds, etc)
If you're "out with a date on friday night" (stereotypically unlikely here on /.) and there's a wait to be seated, the bar is always open for a quick drink and some (occasionally free) appetizers... If you're having a going away party at the bar, or surprisingly meet up with your best friend at the bar, or pick up a chick at the bar but she wants to eat before going to your bachelor pad(stereotypically unlikely here on /.), you walk over to a restaurant booth and have dinner. I am not a sports guy but I'm told some guys spend an entire football sunday walking from restaurant table for lunch, bar for afternoon game, and dinner at the restaurant again, followed sometimes by more drinking at the bar. So bar/restaurants are pretty convenient.
Often the separation between bar, cocktail table, and restaurant tables/booths is very flexible. You can order and eat a burger at the bar, or just drink at a restaurant table, or either at a cocktail table, and the staff are cool with it, as long as the money rolls in.
It is a huge headache for the servers to figure out who is allowed to drink and who is not allowed to drink.
Could simply lock out the selection button for 24 hours. That eliminates all refund issues because for the next 24 hours no one can select that song. This does open the considerable risk of having to hear an annoying song exactly once every 24 hours.
Music is by far the most boring application of this "media banishment system", especially at an exercise club or waiting room.
I would love to see this applied to TV News and the financial news shills and the weather channel. Oh god not another "it bleeds it leads" hit skip. Not another kitten in tree saved by firefighters. The commentator on CNBC right now is a real estate shill .... flushing sound .... Onsight live broadcast breathlessly reporting "its raining" zapped.
The main problem is there's a million recorded songs out there, the bar flies cannot possibly block them all even if they were sober and cooperated. But unleash this on the financial news channels and a small team could literally wipe the slate clean of all stories leaving a blank screen or test pattern. Its very likely that if you zap all the video news releases, and network entertainment news self promotions, and celebrity news, and pointless human interest stories, there is nothing left in a typical newscast.
I'm worried about the shovelware. Will ten antiviruses and junk like that be in a removable ubuntu package or will it be too deeply embedded into the OS to remove?
I though they had enough cameras to see everything everyone sends or reads anyway?
Your party is not always right. The other party is not always wrong. Politics should not be a "my team's better than yours" shouting match.
If the strategy is divide and conquer, that's going to go against the grain of the entire sociopolitical system.
There is only one party, the rich guys party. There are two totally different PR campaigns with wildly different strategies, but once one or the other works (doesn't matter which) then its back to one party rule.
Here is a simpler question: when can I, an individual citizen, shut down wireless communication?
That's easy, just call in an anonymous tip that there's something that goes "boom" attached to a cellphone, obviously.
This in itself is an interesting attack vector. You see, this will train people that when the cell service goes down, that means they are in extremely close proximity to a bomb thats about to go off, TSA goons are about to swoop in and beat everyone in sight, etc.
So the "real" attack vector is to build and plant absolutely nothing, select a nice crowded area, call in a completely fake threat, get wireless service shut off, resulting panic by 80K football fans all trying to instantly simultaneously frantically escape a stadium thats about to go boom or whatever, results in dozens if not hundreds of deaths by trampling... and the beauty of it is the government did it to themselves by fearmongering to gain power, and the attackers can be sitting on the other side of the planet using the wonders of modern telecommunications. Or it can be a false flag operation, of course, which is probably the largest source of terrorist attacks anyway.
Once you teach people and the government that cell outages mean nothing by doing this a couple times, then you start doing it for real, of course, which adds to the excitement.
Do you think I should quit my day job and become a hollywood writer or maybe a security consultant? Both jobs just seem to boil down to streaming out some scarey bs in exchange for piles of money.
How, exactly, do you know they work that way? That makes no sense to me. One intelligent design is every time the phone rx a txt message, the reset button on a 5 minute timer is pushed. So 5 minutes after they decide to stop sending texts, or 5 minutes after the phone network is shut down, boom. Seems blindingly obvious to a programmer type. No reason the boom can't be a "OR" function of the txt timer OR a plain ole phone call.
All I can say is cellphone telemarketers must be a headache for people who design and deploy the real thing...
7. The Western governments are not fascist. You should learn a little more before speaking on that topic. The USA has nude beaches, Casinos, no secret police that check if people are married or correct gendered, alcohol and tobacco laws are enforced by locals not the feds. In short this is more nonsense you are spewing.
LOL don't know much about the US, well that's OK. Some of your stuff is actually pretty funny, but some is dangerously wrong to someone who doesn't know any better like the bit about there being no federal alcohol and tobacco laws, as a warning to anyone who doesn't know, that kind of stuff is hyper regulated by the feds and pretty heavily enforced too (all the locals do is check IDs to see if you're old enough, and occasionally have weird zoning type laws about when and where you can sell) Maybe a better way to describe it is the cruise ship experience would horrify a paleoconservative from Utarrrh yet simultaneously also bore the heck out of someone from Vegas. Can't please everyone all the time.
I don't think vlm was espousing the list as his opinion, he was just summarizing..
Yeah I was making fun of them too. Lots of people who've clearly never been on a non-cruiseship boat, but are none the less naval experts, naval engineers, navy sailors, admiralty law laywers... I'm certainly also no expert, but I've met and hung out with experts like that enough to absolutely laugh at some of the strange ideas I've seen in these posts.
The funniest one was some dude implying that a life in what amounts to a floating hackerspace is going to result in endless exepnsive helicopter medivacs, as if it'll be more dangerous than living on a oil drilling platform. "mayday mayday pan pan sos sos and all that shite help us coast guard we need a medivac because my buddy got a papercut and I ran out of energy drinks and the caffeine withdrawal headache is killing me!" Somehow, I'm thinking they'll be just fine.
I admit I'm torn... you're going to have the best and the brightest and most motiviated .. on the other hand they'll probably be from poor countries ... on the other hand you'll have plenty of people that don't want the well known USA "warm welcome" of treating every visitor as a terrorist criminal so they'll be plenty of wealthy Europeans on board its not all going to be 3rd world sweatshop conditions ... on the other hand they'll probably be scratching for every dollar they can get ... on the other hand have you seen the insane dumps that some nerds/geeks/freaks turn their homes into... On the other hand the purpose of living nearby the VCs is obviously for the VCs to visit, and they aren't going to want to meet in the town dump or the middle of the town sewage treatment plant, so its gotta be at least kinda nice.
At that point the cramped conditions, poor maintenance, foul sanitation
I LOLed, lets face it, we all know plenty of rich american landlubber, never set foot off american dirt, /.er types who would also miserably fail a health inspection of their apartment, or, heck, their workspace. Yet also plenty of ex-mil /.ers who still make hospital corners on their beds every morning. Thats before we get started with the OCD types who run "sync" three times before every reboot and wash their hands 50 times per day. I think it'll probably all end up as "not a whole hell of a lot different than living on land".