For german geeks I can only recommend "Linux Kernelarchitektur" by Wolfgang Mauerer - it is a good introduction and well written. The only thing annoying is that it has a few typos and sometimes skips some details (like Reiserfs) - although this is obviously unavoidable - the book still has 770 pages.
You can use it with gentoo right now(tm).
However I get the feeling that the new scheduler still needs some finetuning for desktop apps.
It seems to be great already for servers.
But glxgears dropped by almost 50% for me - and tvtime drops frames all the time. Surprisingly the kernel is even SLOWER, when I disable powermanagement and framebuffer support.
I also looked forward for the Sis 746 AGP support - but it is still very unstable. Unfortunatly, Dave Jones, the main agpgart developer does not seem to be too interested in improving the support soon - and I am just beginning to understand how the kernel works internally and am not able to fix things myself right now.
by the default it comes with nano...
you cant use a KNOPPIX CD for the install or generate your own Live CD without nano using catalyst if you are a real zealot for vi....
It would probably be the only distro shipping only with vi;-)
After all the Live cd just boots the system...
there is no magic on it, so you could even install gentoo from an existing Linux installation using your loved vi....
Gentoo, every package update must be recompiled.
not true.
There are preompiled packages available now optimized for most archs and packages. See here
Also in a production enviroment with multiple gentoo boxes you can compile once, test and then run anywhere - with the support of distcc compiling is very fast... and that is easy to setup.
Note that gentoo is evolving pretty fast and not compareable with the gentoo from a year ago...
Greetz,Bjorn
did get the idea too it seems. Their new CD will be released without copy protection. From a recent TV-interview (translation mine):
Interviewer: You new CD is released without copy protection... Farin Urlaub: Yes, we though we could release the copy protection seperately and cash in twice...
I am using gentoo and fluxbox and find it most annoying that even small gtk-based apps use a *lot* of other framework-libs like (example gnome): [ebuild N ] gnome-base/ORBit-0.5.17 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.35-r3 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/bonobo-1.0.22 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/ORBit2-2.6.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.2.0 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/bonobo-activation-2.2.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.2.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-2.0.1 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.2.0.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.2.0 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.2.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.2.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.2.1 [ebuild N ] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.4 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.2.1.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.2.1.2 [ebuild N ] gnome-extra/gal-1.99.8 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gail-1.2.1 [ebuild N ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.0.7 [ebuild N ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.2.3 [ebuild N ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r3 [ebuild N ] app-doc/ebook-libgnome-1.2
although I dont intend to use gnome. Are these really needed for these simple apps? I just would like to enjoy a lightweight desktop. To make it worse, these libs for the same task are existent for QT/KDE and GTK/Gnome. Are the KDE/Gnome libs really making it significantly easier to develop a app - or would it be better to just use the toolkit (QT/GTK) , like for example lyx did with qt and leave the desktop libs alone. I dont think a KDE or QT app would use gconf for example anyway (I am guessing here...) Greetz, Bjorn
/* Insert the
It's here: the Gentoo Zealot Translator!
here because noone reading slashdot ever read it. */
Oh, the irony ...
You are celebrating this event with a song mostly forbidden in Germany.
Freedesktop X server
y windows
For german geeks I can only recommend "Linux Kernelarchitektur" by Wolfgang Mauerer - it is a good introduction and well written. The only thing annoying is that it has a few typos and sometimes skips some details (like Reiserfs) - although this is obviously unavoidable - the book still has 770 pages.
You can use it with gentoo right now(tm).
However I get the feeling that the new scheduler still needs some finetuning for desktop apps.
It seems to be great already for servers.
But glxgears dropped by almost 50% for me - and tvtime drops frames all the time.
Surprisingly the kernel is even SLOWER, when I disable powermanagement and framebuffer support.
I also looked forward for the Sis 746 AGP support - but it is still very unstable.
Unfortunatly, Dave Jones, the main agpgart developer does not seem to be too interested in improving the support soon - and I am just beginning to understand how the kernel works internally and am not able to fix things myself right now.
Kissinger? Hearst? Updike? Kaczynski? Love Story?
.... ....
but
but
NATALIE PORTMAN !!!!
Slashdot conflict! Good or evil?
by the default it comes with nano... ;-)
After all the Live cd just boots the system ...
...
you cant use a KNOPPIX CD for the install or generate your own Live CD without nano using catalyst if you are a real zealot for vi....
It would probably be the only distro shipping only with vi
there is no magic on it, so you could even install gentoo from an existing Linux installation using your loved vi....
BTW, I use vi too
Gentoo, every package update must be recompiled. ... and that is easy to setup. ...
not true.
There are preompiled packages available now optimized for most archs and packages.
See here Also in a production enviroment with multiple gentoo boxes you can compile once, test and then run anywhere - with the support of distcc compiling is very fast
Note that gentoo is evolving pretty fast and not compareable with the gentoo from a year ago
Greetz,Bjorn
I wonder how cheap broadband is around the world...
What is the best broadband deal you can get where you live?
Here in Hamburg, Germany, EU you get:
2MBit d/l, 192KBit u/l for 62EUR/month
4MBit d/l, 384KBit u/l for 97EUR/month
no other limits
With p2p-apps the upload is already the limiting factor!! Even the http-traffic is lagging with to much p2p on the line
did get the idea too it seems. Their new CD will be released without copy protection. From a recent TV-interview (translation mine):
... ...
Interviewer: You new CD is released without copy protection
Farin Urlaub: Yes, we though we could release the copy protection seperately and cash in twice
Bjorn
(Sorry for getting a bit OT.)
I am using gentoo and fluxbox and find it most annoying that even small gtk-based apps use a *lot* of other framework-libs like (example gnome):
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/ORBit-0.5.17
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/oaf-0.6.10
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-libs-1.4.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-print-0.35-r3
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/bonobo-1.0.22
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-0.17-r6
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/ORBit2-2.6.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.2.0
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/bonobo-activation-2.2.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.2.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-2.0.1
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.2.0.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.2.0
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.2.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.2.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.2.1
[ebuild N ] app-text/gnome-spell-1.0.4
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.2.1.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.2.1.2
[ebuild N ] gnome-extra/gal-1.99.8
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/gail-1.2.1
[ebuild N ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-3.0.7
[ebuild N ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.2.3
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r3
[ebuild N ] app-doc/ebook-libgnome-1.2
although I dont intend to use gnome.
Are these really needed for these simple apps? I just would like to enjoy a lightweight desktop. To make it worse, these libs for the same task are existent for QT/KDE and GTK/Gnome.
Are the KDE/Gnome libs really making it significantly easier to develop a app - or would it be better to just use the toolkit (QT/GTK) , like for example lyx did with qt and leave the desktop libs alone.
I dont think a KDE or QT app would use gconf for example anyway (I am guessing here...)
Greetz, Bjorn