Thats nice, but the US is the #2 manufacturing nation on the planet with $8 trillion in yearly output. Manufacturing has increased 300% in the least 30 years. But OK. You know best.
I totally agree. Greed ruined computing when the sociopathic MBAs moved in and pushed the geeks out of the decision making. Pretty sad, but fairly typical. Once money is to be made, the MBAs move in.
The computing industry has gone downhill fast. It had a promising start with open systems and software, but now everything is about proprietary crap and hiding what the computer is doing.
Show me your "simple terraforming solution". You Space Nutters always say things are "simple". Unbelievable. You don't even listen to yourselves. If you could "terraform" a planet why not start with Earth? We have a CO2 problem right now. Why not deploy your "simple solution" to solve THAT problem before terraforming Venus?
The challenges of a Venetian floating "thing" isn't the floating in the atmosphere.
Wow, a typical Space Nutter response. Why would anyone possibly think that FLOATING SOMETHING IN VENUS' ATMOSPHERE isn't a challenge? You guys really take the cake. And why I say "do it on Earth first" is because I want you to build a floating city in the sky on Earth first. Then you might learn how "challenging" it is. You guys don't think that anything is "challenging" because you are software guys and you think "just recompile" and it if it doesn't work "recompile it again and push the update".
You forgot that I am a "troll". Basically, if you point out that you don't agree that putting a city on Venus is possible you are "trolling" and a "moron". Welcome to Space Nuttery.
"The real issue is changing the rotation of the planet, maybe its orbit, and starting plate tectonics. These are all theoretically possible but would not be very easy to accomplish"
What theories have you put forward that would allow us to change the rotation and/or orbit of a planet and starting plate tectonics? I am not aware of these theories. Are they a government secret or something, or did someone write it on their blog?
Yes. Like a greenhouse. Go build one in the harshest desert and terraform it and make it self sustaining. Let us know how it works out. Then you can build one in spaaaaaaaaace! It will only be about 1,000,000x harder, but you Space Nutters have wikipedia to help you figure it out.
That is the same tired Space Nutter argument of "since one thing is possible, all things are possible". I mean, since we can put a probe on Venus, it is possible to put a manned craft in Venus, and colony/city is "conceptually probable" (whatever that means). Space Nutters need to learn just because one thing is possible, not all things are possible. Just because you can create a vehicle that can go the speed of sound doesn't mean you can create one that can go the speed of light, or even 0.0001% the speed of light. Just because you can put a probe on Mars, doesn't mean you can live on Mars. They are completely different problems. People worked very hard to build probes and get them where they need to go. It doesn't mean it follows that people can put a manned craft or a CITY on Venus! That is where Space Nutters go off the rails.
You misunderstand me. I want YOU Mr. Space Nutter to do it. Not just read about it, or watch someone else do it. I want YOU TO DO IT. Then you will learn what is "technologically possible". What you are talking about is complete utter nonsense. When you say "putting a craft, city, probe in Venus' atmosphere is possible technologically" you are stating a fact. A fact that is clearly not true. Have you ever put a city on Venus? What technology would you use to put a city on Venus? I don't know of any technology like that and I just browed the entire Mouser catalog.
Another truth: I am a coder too. The difference is I don't think being able to write software MAKES ME SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. I don't claim to be able to know how to colonize Venus because I can write C++ programs (badly)!
Yeah, right. I knew you were a coder. To a coder, everything is "easy". Just change the code, recompile, *boom* and we have a Mars Colony! Didn't work? Recompile and try again. Want to try Venus? Just change "std::string planet="mars" to std::string planet="venus". Enough with your "reading". What you are "reading" is Space Nutter scifi fantasies. Things like Dyson Motors (whatever that is) DON'T EXIST. They are thought experiments. You are never, ever, never, ever going to move a planet from orbit using one.
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Seems unlikely. The Earth's climate stayed at the same optimal temperature throughout history, until after the Industrial Revolution.
They found one in 2018 and now another one in 2019. At this rate the entire Earth will be a complete crater by 2030.
What is it now? Seventh Elon story in three days?
Rei has been busy!
I dub thee: "Space Nutter #1".
Thats nice, but the US is the #2 manufacturing nation on the planet with $8 trillion in yearly output. Manufacturing has increased 300% in the least 30 years. But OK. You know best.
The US is the #2 manufacturing nation on the planet.
The investors are MBAs too. Trust me, I have worked in the industry and know all about private investment funds coming in and changing everything.
I did make my own. What do you think of that "lol"?
I totally agree. Greed ruined computing when the sociopathic MBAs moved in and pushed the geeks out of the decision making. Pretty sad, but fairly typical. Once money is to be made, the MBAs move in.
Exactly. This is what it was designed for. More restrictions.
The computing industry has gone downhill fast. It had a promising start with open systems and software, but now everything is about proprietary crap and hiding what the computer is doing.
Agreed...but I haven't commented yet, so hang on!
Is that BASIC?
Show me your "simple terraforming solution". You Space Nutters always say things are "simple". Unbelievable. You don't even listen to yourselves. If you could "terraform" a planet why not start with Earth? We have a CO2 problem right now. Why not deploy your "simple solution" to solve THAT problem before terraforming Venus?
The challenges of a Venetian floating "thing" isn't the floating in the atmosphere.
Wow, a typical Space Nutter response. Why would anyone possibly think that FLOATING SOMETHING IN VENUS' ATMOSPHERE isn't a challenge? You guys really take the cake. And why I say "do it on Earth first" is because I want you to build a floating city in the sky on Earth first. Then you might learn how "challenging" it is. You guys don't think that anything is "challenging" because you are software guys and you think "just recompile" and it if it doesn't work "recompile it again and push the update".
You forgot that I am a "troll". Basically, if you point out that you don't agree that putting a city on Venus is possible you are "trolling" and a "moron". Welcome to Space Nuttery.
"The real issue is changing the rotation of the planet, maybe its orbit, and starting plate tectonics. These are all theoretically possible but would not be very easy to accomplish"
What theories have you put forward that would allow us to change the rotation and/or orbit of a planet and starting plate tectonics? I am not aware of these theories. Are they a government secret or something, or did someone write it on their blog?
Yes. Like a greenhouse. Go build one in the harshest desert and terraform it and make it self sustaining. Let us know how it works out. Then you can build one in spaaaaaaaaace! It will only be about 1,000,000x harder, but you Space Nutters have wikipedia to help you figure it out.
That is the same tired Space Nutter argument of "since one thing is possible, all things are possible". I mean, since we can put a probe on Venus, it is possible to put a manned craft in Venus, and colony/city is "conceptually probable" (whatever that means). Space Nutters need to learn just because one thing is possible, not all things are possible. Just because you can create a vehicle that can go the speed of sound doesn't mean you can create one that can go the speed of light, or even 0.0001% the speed of light. Just because you can put a probe on Mars, doesn't mean you can live on Mars. They are completely different problems. People worked very hard to build probes and get them where they need to go. It doesn't mean it follows that people can put a manned craft or a CITY on Venus! That is where Space Nutters go off the rails.
Don't bother. Just call me a "troll" and move on. It is what you types do when you can't handle criticism.
You misunderstand me. I want YOU Mr. Space Nutter to do it. Not just read about it, or watch someone else do it. I want YOU TO DO IT. Then you will learn what is "technologically possible". What you are talking about is complete utter nonsense. When you say "putting a craft, city, probe in Venus' atmosphere is possible technologically" you are stating a fact. A fact that is clearly not true. Have you ever put a city on Venus? What technology would you use to put a city on Venus? I don't know of any technology like that and I just browed the entire Mouser catalog.
Another truth: I am a coder too. The difference is I don't think being able to write software MAKES ME SMARTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. I don't claim to be able to know how to colonize Venus because I can write C++ programs (badly)!
Containers are just computer programs. I never understood the hipster fascination with it.
Yeah, right. I knew you were a coder. To a coder, everything is "easy". Just change the code, recompile, *boom* and we have a Mars Colony! Didn't work? Recompile and try again. Want to try Venus? Just change "std::string planet="mars" to std::string planet="venus". Enough with your "reading". What you are "reading" is Space Nutter scifi fantasies. Things like Dyson Motors (whatever that is) DON'T EXIST. They are thought experiments. You are never, ever, never, ever going to move a planet from orbit using one.
No, I am the type of asshole to tell Jesus to go fuck himself.