There are fewer female kernel contributors because Linus is really mean on the LKML. If he would be nicer, there would be more females contributing to the kernel. And the kernel would be much better as a result.
"resort to anything that would violate those community standards in order to it then your points probably aren't that valid"
Classic. So the validity of a statement is measured against how it aligns with a CoC. Amazing. Linus better hope they don't adopt such a CoC for the kernel. He will no longer be a great coder and all of his points will probably no longer be valid.
You are missing his point. It is about him being associated with an organization (through his association with LLVM) that he thinks discriminates based on sex and ancestry. Not that he was afraid of being discriminated against.
I took that to mean "projects and companies" in the context of what the article was actually about not "the world". But you are right, the world isn't fair. Your Mommy should have told you that when you were 5 or so. Time to grow up.
There is a big difference between murder and being rude. You have a right to be rude. You don't have a right to murder. That is what laws are for. That is "how things work". Once thing I have noticed is that young people think they have the right to be "respected" and "not offended". Well guess what? You don't.
If that is "the point" then why doesn't it say that in the CoC? I do love your addition about "slightly more so" though. We are all equal, but some people are more equal than others I guess. Truly Orwellian.
"If you can't effectively call out someone's idiocy without mentioning their their race or gender"
Huh? Who said anything about doing that?
"In addition, if you can't call someone's idiocy in a social setting without being unnecessarily cruel and disrespectful"
Huh? Who said anything about that? You SJW types are really truly scary.
"I was asked for a citation about the world not being about merit alone,"
No, you weren't asked that. But you are right. Life isn't fair and not based on merit alone. So it sounds like you want a universal CoC to fix that problem. Scary.
I am pointing out that you are going on about "Brett Bigham" which is completely irrelevant to this story. Unless you are proposing some sort of CoC that encompasses all facets of life.
What project did "Brett Bingham" contribute to? It sounds like you want to have a new universal "Code of Conduct" that applies across projects and companies. You people are very scary.
You are missing the point. How does a LLVM CoC fix that issue with people being treated badly across other "projects, companies, etc"? Unless there is an issue with LLVM. Does a LLVM CoC help "Brett Bigham" in any way?
Why would you treat someone as an equal or with respect just because they have boobs or have a certain skin color? Very odd. People should be treated as equals and/or with respect if they deserve to be based on their behavior. I wouldn't treat Donald Trump with respect, because he doesn't deserve it. It doesn't matter if he has boobs or if his skin color was different.
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Hopefully "equally welcoming" means a lot more than that. We should all be equally welcoming no matter what, right?
Exactly. I am just a troll. Just ignore me and avoid any critical thought in your echo chamber.
There are fewer female kernel contributors because Linus is really mean on the LKML. If he would be nicer, there would be more females contributing to the kernel. And the kernel would be much better as a result.
What does "equally welcoming" have to do with anything we are talking about? The words never even appeared in this thread. You guys are totally nuts.
Wow. There is a lot of "I think" in that post. Good job calling him a liar though. You guys are unbelievable. Despicable.
"resort to anything that would violate those community standards in order to it then your points probably aren't that valid"
Classic. So the validity of a statement is measured against how it aligns with a CoC. Amazing. Linus better hope they don't adopt such a CoC for the kernel. He will no longer be a great coder and all of his points will probably no longer be valid.
Insincerity is a violation of my CoC.
You are missing his point. It is about him being associated with an organization (through his association with LLVM) that he thinks discriminates based on sex and ancestry. Not that he was afraid of being discriminated against.
I took that to mean "projects and companies" in the context of what the article was actually about not "the world". But you are right, the world isn't fair. Your Mommy should have told you that when you were 5 or so. Time to grow up.
There is a big difference between murder and being rude. You have a right to be rude. You don't have a right to murder. That is what laws are for. That is "how things work". Once thing I have noticed is that young people think they have the right to be "respected" and "not offended". Well guess what? You don't.
If that is "the point" then why doesn't it say that in the CoC? I do love your addition about "slightly more so" though. We are all equal, but some people are more equal than others I guess. Truly Orwellian.
"If you can't effectively call out someone's idiocy without mentioning their their race or gender"
Huh? Who said anything about doing that?
"In addition, if you can't call someone's idiocy in a social setting without being unnecessarily cruel and disrespectful"
Huh? Who said anything about that? You SJW types are really truly scary.
"I was asked for a citation about the world not being about merit alone,"
No, you weren't asked that. But you are right. Life isn't fair and not based on merit alone. So it sounds like you want a universal CoC to fix that problem. Scary.
You should make those old white guys sign a piece of paper and that will fix THAT problem.
Probably true. I am just feeling argumentative today. I need to take my meds.
Your first example was "Brett Bigham" and "when you look across companies and projects". So yeah, it sounds like you do!
I am pointing out that you are going on about "Brett Bigham" which is completely irrelevant to this story. Unless you are proposing some sort of CoC that encompasses all facets of life.
What project did "Brett Bingham" contribute to? It sounds like you want to have a new universal "Code of Conduct" that applies across projects and companies. You people are very scary.
Yes, compound sentences are amazing things. I am glad you have made up some rules to exclude people who don't like your rules. The irony is delicious.
" And that makes better code"
Maybe it does produce better code. How do you know it doesn't?
"We shouldn't just be tolerating people, we should be welcoming."
I love statements like this. Why do people think they have the right to tell others what they "should" do? Arrogance.
You are missing the point. How does a LLVM CoC fix that issue with people being treated badly across other "projects, companies, etc"? Unless there is an issue with LLVM. Does a LLVM CoC help "Brett Bigham" in any way?
Why would you treat someone as an equal or with respect just because they have boobs or have a certain skin color? Very odd. People should be treated as equals and/or with respect if they deserve to be based on their behavior. I wouldn't treat Donald Trump with respect, because he doesn't deserve it. It doesn't matter if he has boobs or if his skin color was different.
It is tools that helps make the software you use every day. Now go back to watching Youtube like a good consumer.
Was Brett Bigham involved with LLVM?
How does a LLVM CoC affect other companies or projects? It only affects LLVM. Are you saying that LLVM has a problem that a CoC would help fix?