As I have stated previously, SCO may have a case here. Spewing vitrol against SCO won't reveal the truth any faster.
Now SGI is ADMITTING that they put SYSV code in the Linux codebase. Whether or not it has been removed is IMMATERIAL for purposes of this case. SGI caveats that the code had "been previously released into the public domain" though. However, that may just be wishful thinking on their part.
Well in this case keeping an open mind in regards to the moderation doesn't hold in my opinion. The post was clearly factually incorrect in regards to the GPL. To mod it as "+5 Informative" is incorrect. It could be moderated as "Interesting", but certainly was not Informative.
My above post was an intentional troll. It is to prove a few points about the ridiculous nature of the moderation system on slashdot.
1) If you post quickly, you will have a chance to be read and moderated. This system rewards those who post without spending time to think about or read the article(s) involved. I think at least an hour should pass before any posts are made public, and those posts should be posted in random order. The main problem is that the posts at the "top" get modded, while the others get ignored.
2) The most ridiculous assertions (our proprietary code is not licensed under the GPL and is therefore not released) is modded up a 4-INFORMATIVE??? already?
3) You cannot trust anything that is said on an anonymous forum such as this. Don't take it so seriously.
Hi, we believe this to be a non-issue. The "static linking" vs. "modules" requirement is frequently misunderstood by the community. All modified source code has been released back as the GPL requires. Any complaints should be addressed to Mr. Kuhn as he understands the nuances of the agreement.
Hello, I would like to offer an explanation of this before this blows up into a big mess.
Our code that is "missing" is not covered under the GPL. It is proprietary code which we cannot share for strategic reasons, and also it is covered under binding third-party agreements. We cannot release it even if we wished to.
However, the code base that was released is the COMPLETE GPL code base that we modified for use in the product.
Yes, thats a good solution then - especially if he wants to run an apache server along with it.
The only issue then is keeping up with the patches. I prefer a hardware (firmware, whatever) based solution myself, just because of the simplicity...but in your case it looks like the added flexibility was important.
Well, the cost of the "extra" electricity required and hardware if it breaks. Plus the time value of learning the new system (nmap, etc). Just seems like overkill to me. A heck of a lot more can go wrong with a FreeBSD installation than a simple Linksys router.
Of course, the BSD solution is more flexible I guess.
I can tell you are a learned man by reading the above text. You have studied this topic for 20 years and don't know the difference between "their" and "there"? Put down the airbrush and roach clip dude, and stop calling other people who are obviously much better educated than you, "morons".
Why do guys wear this crap on their belt? It looks so ridiculous, it doesn't make you look professional or important. You end up looking like someones lackey always on call. It seems to be most prevalent in the U.S.
Put your phone and PDA in your pockets for gods sake. Buy a smartphone and merge them into one device.
And a PAGER? What he hell are the point of those anymore?
"Now, you can imagine building something to change the world, you can even imagine how to build it, but if someone has previously thought of it, you are in for a losing legal battle"
Aw, so you can't (supposedly) profit from something that someone already patented? So sad. How about you license the patent from them, or allow them to have first chance at making it go?
The U.S. has a very strong IP system that dates back over a century. It is why we produce so much IP.
Agreed. What is the difference between patenting an idea for a "hardware invention" (such as the cotton gin) and an idea for a "software invention"?
What people object to is the INCORRECT APPLICATION of the software patent law. The feeling is that too many obvious ideas are getting patented due to the lack of knowledge of patent officers.
Wow, those systems must not be used for much if you can change the OS and the architecture at the drop of a hat, and still have those systems provide the same services.
imov Messenger (http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm ) works like you describe. Unfortunately it is for Windows CE devices only. I use it on my Windows cell phone.
"If they want to do business with you, then you shouldn't have to buy over-priced software." says the college student who has never worked a corporate job in his life.
What makes you think the relationship between the ISP and the individual citizen is confidential, even disregarding the DMCA? I can assure you it is not, and never was.
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SGI says code MAY have been public domain. The fact that SGI removed it anyway, indicates that there is SOME DOUBT about that.
As I have stated previously, SCO may have a case here. Spewing vitrol against SCO won't reveal the truth any faster.
Now SGI is ADMITTING that they put SYSV code in the Linux codebase. Whether or not it has been removed is IMMATERIAL for purposes of this case. SGI caveats that the code had "been previously released into the public domain" though. However, that may just be wishful thinking on their part.
Give me a break, in this day and age, are Americans still blinded by calls of "communist"?
Yeah, its almost as ridiculous as those blinded by those people who scream about global warming and how we are destroying the Earth. Almost.
Wow, he must be an incredibly clever fella to fool us all like that (except you apparently).
I would say he would make a good leader, being that he is so much more intelligent than the rest of us.
You know that is what all you conspiracy nuts imply, don't you?
Well in this case keeping an open mind in regards to the moderation doesn't hold in my opinion. The post was clearly factually incorrect in regards to the GPL. To mod it as "+5 Informative" is incorrect. It could be moderated as "Interesting", but certainly was not Informative.
Everyone:
My above post was an intentional troll. It is to prove a few points about the ridiculous nature of the moderation system on slashdot.
1) If you post quickly, you will have a chance to be read and moderated. This system rewards those who post without spending time to think about or read the article(s) involved. I think at least an hour should pass before any posts are made public, and those posts should be posted in random order. The main problem is that the posts at the "top" get modded, while the others get ignored.
2) The most ridiculous assertions (our proprietary code is not licensed under the GPL and is therefore not released) is modded up a 4-INFORMATIVE??? already?
3) You cannot trust anything that is said on an anonymous forum such as this. Don't take it so seriously.
Thank You,
Bill Gates
Hi, we believe this to be a non-issue. The "static linking" vs. "modules" requirement is frequently misunderstood by the community. All modified source code has been released back as the GPL requires. Any complaints should be addressed to Mr. Kuhn as he understands the nuances of the agreement.
Hello, I would like to offer an explanation of this before this blows up into a big mess.
Our code that is "missing" is not covered under the GPL. It is proprietary code which we cannot share for strategic reasons, and also it is covered under binding third-party agreements. We cannot release it even if we wished to.
However, the code base that was released is the COMPLETE GPL code base that we modified for use in the product.
I hope this clears a few things up.
Yes, thats a good solution then - especially if he wants to run an apache server along with it.
The only issue then is keeping up with the patches. I prefer a hardware (firmware, whatever) based solution myself, just because of the simplicity...but in your case it looks like the added flexibility was important.
Well, the cost of the "extra" electricity required and hardware if it breaks. Plus the time value of learning the new system (nmap, etc). Just seems like overkill to me. A heck of a lot more can go wrong with a FreeBSD installation than a simple Linksys router.
Of course, the BSD solution is more flexible I guess.
I can tell you are a learned man by reading the above text. You have studied this topic for 20 years and don't know the difference between "their" and "there"? Put down the airbrush and roach clip dude, and stop calling other people who are obviously much better educated than you, "morons".
Er. Why not just buy a new Linksys router for $40 or so? It would cost less to operate and maintain.
Why do guys wear this crap on their belt? It looks so ridiculous, it doesn't make you look professional or important. You end up looking like someones lackey always on call. It seems to be most prevalent in the U.S.
Put your phone and PDA in your pockets for gods sake. Buy a smartphone and merge them into one device.
And a PAGER? What he hell are the point of those anymore?
You must be kidding. A *few* apps? You think you can switch from Solaris to Linux easily because most of the Solaris apps are available on Linux?
Jesus. Try working in the real world once.
"I work at a government institution."
What? Aren't you Tom Copeland who works for InfoEther???
"It sucks to loose"
It sucks to not know how to spell "lose".
Gawd, I can't believe the NYT fell for this one...
"When someone patents something, nobody else is permitted to use that technology."
Wrong. You can use the technology via a license agreement with the owner of the patent.
Oh yeah, BTW, engines are patented all the time.
"Now, you can imagine building something to change the world, you can even imagine how to build it, but if someone has previously thought of it, you are in for a losing legal battle"
Aw, so you can't (supposedly) profit from something that someone already patented? So sad. How about you license the patent from them, or allow them to have first chance at making it go?
The U.S. has a very strong IP system that dates back over a century. It is why we produce so much IP.
Agreed. What is the difference between patenting an idea for a "hardware invention" (such as the cotton gin) and an idea for a "software invention"?
What people object to is the INCORRECT APPLICATION of the software patent law. The feeling is that too many obvious ideas are getting patented due to the lack of knowledge of patent officers.
Wow, those systems must not be used for much if you can change the OS and the architecture at the drop of a hat, and still have those systems provide the same services.
Maybe he is an old fart in a young farts body?
imov Messenger (http://www.movsoftware.com/products/imov/imov.htm ) works like you describe. Unfortunately it is for Windows CE devices only. I use it on my Windows cell phone.
"If they want to do business with you, then you shouldn't have to buy over-priced software." says the college student who has never worked a corporate job in his life.
What makes you think the relationship between the ISP and the individual citizen is confidential, even disregarding the DMCA? I can assure you it is not, and never was.