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Nokia 7600 All-in-One Phone
prostoalex writes "The new Nokia 7600, reviewed by people at MobileMag is a 3G/GSM phone with radically new design and built-in functionality of an MP3 player, multimedia browser and digital camera. The phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM 900/1800. Some pictures of the product are available at Nokia's site. This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor."
You're breaking up! Can you hear me now? Hello? Can you heare me? Hello?
Aw screw it, I'll just sit here and snap pictures or play a lame game!
Does it have a Kitchen sink? How about Xwindows? What about a full video-confrencing suite? Is it bluetooth enabled?
The top question: Emacs or VI?
AFAIR Nokia was the first cellular phone maker, who introduced combined phone and PDA (Nokia Communicator). It wasn't maybe "lightweight and thin", but the times were different.
Regards
I have seen these before, and yet never understood why it's necessary to combine the two? Both are small enough to be insignificant, and to be honest, if I was on the 'phone to a client, then I'd want to be able to use my PDA without having to stop talking. Isn't this a bit of a niche market?
However, doesn't really look much like a phone.
I'd feel pretty stupid holding it up against my face to talk. Although, a bluetooth headset might make a nice addition... Handset's a bit counter intuitive too.
Not that I really need a 3G phone anyhow.
He tried to kill me with a forklift!
after a first glance at the pictures, can someone tell me how to hold it so you are not listening to the microphone and talking to the speaker?
It's looks like a woman's compact for makeup. Maybe that's who're they're targeting(?)...
I already fail to use my PDA as much as I might do because its slightly too big to fit in my pockets. This thing is over 3 inches wide, which is half as much again, and surely isn't going to be comfortable to hold in one hand.
As much as part of me finds it an amusing gadget, this really does seem to be part of Nokia's drive to add so many other applications to phones that they stop being any good at phone calls. I wish my 3510i was as good at the phone basics as the old 3210.
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english summary:
buy siemens instead
...where the buttons are laid out like an actual phone? Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I like the old style where the buttons are laid out in a grid. I know that because it's also a PDA that it's design might preclude it from having such a layout, but it sure doesn't look like a phone.
Does anyone else thinks this looks like a $600 football?
Can anyone explain to me what a "toddler" is? I'm from France.
Makes me feel a little better for buying the 3650. Now I own the second ugliest phone in the universe.
"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." - Jack Nicholson
wheres the GPS mode? the full functional PDA features? maybe even a radio tuner? with 29MB of memory how useful is this as a mp3 player? more than all that what i'd kill for in a phone/phone service is better quality call sound. if 3G services have such a high data rate for better video capabilities, then why dont they use that to make calls sound less like a phone call and more like your sitting next to the person your talking to.
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Quorum also has a detailed report of this on their website. Truly, he will be missed.
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Nokia 7600, 3G/GSM, MP3, WCDMA, GSM 900/1800, PDA
Apparently, Nokia joined the AOEWLTAFE. (Asso. of Engineers Who Like to Use Acronyms for Everything)
Personally, I think it's very G. (good)
This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor.
What gives you the idea that this is supposed to be a foray into the PDA arena by Nokia? The tiny display doesn't make it seem like a PDA. The lack of a stylus input doesn't make it seem like a PDA.
It looks like a repackaged 7650, designed to sell to rich German kids with more money than sense.
Can this thing fit in my nose?
well, i wouldn't say that it failing to resemble a PDA necessarily makes it ugly, but yes, it certainly is. it looks vaguely like a simon (that's what that game is called) designed by someone who's read one too many ikea catalogs.
but this leads to an interesting question: what really is the ideal form factor for a PDA/phone? does it necessarily resemble something we've seen before? is the clamshell/ST: OS model the right direction?
the nokia designers appear to think that the compact CD player is a reasonable format but it's unwieldy, would be hard to hold to your ear for any period of time, and if you answer a phone too fast, you stand a chance of KOing yourself. i can just see it now:
[ring]
"doh!" [as owner accidentally smites self]
you know, i hope this thing is popular: maybe that way, my train ride will be quieter...
ed
Sorry about the rant.
There is no spoon or sig.
Review in The Register here.
Nokia page about the phone, with a better listing of fetures here.
Making it unusable for most 3G vendors so who is gonna sell it? The main selling point of 3G IS videocalling, despite what Nokia says. And just 28 Mb memory making it a crappy mp3-player (and that memory is for storing pictures as well).
on the new nokias being in funny layouts?! I know I'm not the only one, but sometimes, I only know phone numbers by pattern recognition on a proper numeric pad! :) If I use a phone with a different layout, man, there goes a bunch of my friends! :)
... admit it!
I know you do it too
AirSpeak - http://itunes.com/apps/AirSpeak
nuff said.
That sounds like a press release if I ever read one.
I have no problem with press releases, but the submitter should *not* have claimed it was a review.
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It won't go in my Nokia car kit. I've stuck with a relaible but boring 6310i because it does. I was hoping that when Nokia got around to maiing a modern device (Like the Sony Erricsson one) that it would be plug compatible and fit in the cradle.
Guess I'll have to get the car re-plumbed.
It has a built-in MP3/AAC player* but no removable memory. It says it holds "up to 50 minutes" of music which by most companies' gauges means that it can hold 45 minutes of mono 64kpbs files.
*obligitory "waaaaah no OGG support!" comment included here at no extra cost.
...but I've never understood the purpose of 'phones which can play music yet only have enough room for "up to 50 minutes of near CD-quality music". Go-betweens rarely turn out well and what's the point in having to convert your music to 96kb/s just to fit a whole album on there?
Mobile 'phones often suffer from poor battery life as it is and I can only see this feature reducing it yet more. Why include an additional "feature" that is detrimental to the device's main function? It's a pain having to switch the music on a player at the best of times, but why would you consider it when you've only got fifty minutes and no upgradabilty? I can't help thinking it's only bloated for the sake of it and to appear more trendy. I dread to learn the ways in which Nokia have organised music downloads straight into the 'phone from mobile services...Finally, I'm sure I'm not the only one to lament the lack of Vorbis compatibility. As for LAME, I bet you could barely even fit one song on there...
Turkeyphant
Every time there's a converged device, we get comments like this. Likewise, every time we hear about a new gadget of some sort, we get comments suggesting it would be better if we tried cross-breeding it with a laptop.
Just stop for a second and realize that not everybody has the same tastes as you. Variety is good! People who want all that and a bag of chips can go buy a PDA/Phone/Camera/MP3/GPS, and people who just want a phone can get one of the simple no-nonsense Nokia models. People who like to have their pants stuffed with electronics can buy it all separately so they can practice juggling it all while simultaneously talking to clients on the phone.
In the end, we all benefit when there's choices. Quit complaining when a product isn't the same as the products you like-- and just go buy those instead.
And yes, I should probably heed my own advice.
is a 3G/GSM phone with radically new design and built-in functionality of an MP3 player, multimedia browser and digital camera. The phone supports WCDMA as well as GSM 900/1800
Wake me up when it's possible to have a cluster of these. Until then, I'm not impressed.
-B
Bah!
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I remember a suprising amount of my phone numbers by pattern. (That's just me) I would have a very hard time transposing the shapes in my head to the new vertical alignment of the number keys on this thing. No thanks.
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It appears to me to be a rather intelligent design. Both hands can be used to quickly manipulate buttons (as opposed to palming while pecking) without obstructing the screen. As for answering a call, that's what headphones are for. As to the 1st poster concerning Bluetooth... RTFA!
First off, it's ugly. Second, how in the WORLD am I supposed to dial with one hand???? Third IT'S UGLY!
What's wrong Nokia? regular looking (and useful) keypad too good for you? No wonder many Nokia users have all of their numbers in the phone instead of thier head! It's faster to hit a speed dial then a 7 digit phone number.
Gorkman
Sure, the new 7600 from Nokia has everything. But if we all just wait, we can get the Nokia 7800, with all the features of the 7600 plus the ability to turn into a car or jet plane and fight evil robots and dinosaurs and stuff.
And while I'm waiting, I'll get the NGage instead, because the last thing I need is a cellphone that's just a cellphone. I need to spend way too much money on something that has tons of awesome features, but as a phone has bad reception and drops calls all the time.
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A damd fine machine, I might add !
When will I end this grieving ? When will my future begin ?
Toddler == young child
But please be aware that you can get unlimited data plans (for very little more) so that all that picture sending and whatnot is cheaper than actually talking. Data minutes on modern cell networks (GSM/GPRS or 1xRTT) do not require the phone to occupy a voice circuit.
I might also recommend the Nokia 3565 and 3390 as phones that appear to be relatively simple. T-Mobile has both for $50 with no contract, which is outside your range-- but I don't recall *ever* being able to buy a $40 cell phone without signing something.
Your point is well taken, though-- there are customers enough for both types of phones. I hope you find one that suits your tastes and your wallet, and i'll continue looking for one that will let me quit carrying 4 devices around with me.
I like it: it's small, but they didn't try to shoehorn in a full keyboard for my sausage-like fingers to mash. The goofy key layout looks pretty optimal for texting with thumbs, actually.
Regarding "How do I use the PDA and talk at the same time?" -- use a $60 bluetooth headset.
What is it missing to make my perfect convergence unit?
a) Higher-res screen. According to the specs at Nokia, it's only 128x160, less than an older-generation Palm. Give me at least 320x240, and we're talking useful
b) Memory slot. I'm not terribly fussy. My camera is CF, my Palm is SD (but I don't own any devices for it, because it doesn't have good enough sound for me to want to download MP3s), my laptop supports SD and MS but not CF (which is solved with a PCMCIA card)
c) Maybe a stylus. I've gotten very used to touchscreen on my Palm -- it's sorely missed on my GPSr for selecting items and text entry.
d) Oh yeah, GPS receiver.
(a), (c) and (d) are mainly price issues. (b) means they want you to keep paying to download over the phone lines.
Design for Use, not Construction!
My dream phone is small, lightweight,and has a long battery life. Combining multiple features tkaes away from all three of these characteristics. Am I weird for wanting a phone that is just a phone?
Here's a link to Nokia's official product-page for it:
Nokia 7600
The new Nokia 7600 Phone, the latest in our line of products that we'll tell you that you love but you'll hate anyway!
At least this product's announcement didn't include as much BLATANT STUPIDITY as previous ones...
P.S. I accidentally smashed the faceplate all to hell on my 5165 two days ago... Any sugggestions as to a good/inexpensive brand/model to go with besides Nokia? Preferably a Gate phone?
Maxim: People cannot follow directions.
Increases in truth directly with the length of time spent explaining them
Perhaps, if Nokia plans on continuing the trend of High Feature/Low Quality phones, they should concentrate on making one with a smooth contoured design so that it will hurt less when I tell them to shove it up their ass. 51XX was the last good phone they made.
I don't know what your situation in the US might be (sorry if I'm making an incorrect assumption) but here in Australia, an option is to buy a pre-paid mobile phone, use the service that comes with it until it expires and then take out a flat-rate pay-per-call plan using the handset which you now own outright.
It isn't what I did, since I wanted a slightly groovier handset, but it is a potentially very cheap option.
Why would you Americans want to vomit on them? That does not make sense!
Appearently Nokia doesn't understand that most sane people don't want to talk on giant crappy looking things. First a taco then this new atrocity, a laptop phone? (and no I don't mean a peripheral I mean holding a laptop up to your head and talking) Besides regular phones are getting more and more PDA like all the time, storing to do lists, memos, etc why don't they work on improving that?
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Bear in mind this is from the company which brought us the N-Gage, a device which has been described as looking like a taco and requires you to remove the battery to change game. Nokia make fine phones but something seems to have gone wonky of late with their work in other areas.
Did anybody see anything about US availability? Looks like it is being released about every place but here.
Hmm. You sound like the sort of guy who'd chop a lady's feet off and jizz on her bleeding stumps. Get away from me you pervert.
For some reason all of this reminds me of SouthPark: 105
...
"Kyle plans to cross breed his elephant with Cartman's pig" ... "Terrence presents a five-assed monkey and Cartman's pig gives birth. Only the result looks nothing like a elephant-pig combination..."
"This is perhaps Nokia's first attempt to marry mobile phone and PDA in a lightweight and thin formfactor."
"The elephant is much too much big for Kyle to keep in the house, so he tries to bring it to school. Cartman mentions that he got a pot-bellied pig which is small enough to keep in the house"
Why oh why are 3G phones so ugly...
But does it run Linux ???
I think one of this babies running linux would be
a better pda.
Is this unit going to be compatible with N-Gage games?
A variety of N-gage compatible phones - and a cheaper game only device with no phone attached.
That's the only thing that could prevent N-gage being stillborn, imo.
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
Is it just me, or has Nokia topped itself in making the ugliest phones known to man? Good LORD, I wouldn't want to be caught with that thing as my communication's device. Ugh!
By far my favorite so far is the Samsung SPH-i500 (see it here), and it's upcoming successor, the SGH-i500, which will be the GSM version, with Palm OS 5 and other goodies.
This is what I've been waiting for, for some time - a cell phone, with a Palm OS PDA built in, and complete integration between the two. You can manage one address book, click on your Palm address book and dial from there, search Zagat.com with a Palm web browser to find restaurants while walking the streets of New York, and pretty much do all the stuff I've always wanted to do with a PDA, but couldn't because it didn't have an internet connection, and getting one added on was too bulky/expensive, and browsing on your cell phone was waaaay too awkward for anything other than the simplest polling of your email to see any new subject lines, maybe reading a short email from a friend.
The CNET reviews are definitely mixed, but I spent an hour or two playing with my friend's SPH-i500 and I'm totally hooked. Now I just need to convince myself to spend 600 bucks on it, after my last large PDA expenditure on a Clie that I use once every month or two.
First off, let me say that I'm suprised how vehement the reaction to this design. Come on! You don't have to buy it people! Second I'm suprised at the luddite reaction to the numbering arrangement. Doesn't anyone have any interest in trying something new out to see if it's better? Honestly I though /. had more forward thinking people! Where are the dvorak people when you need defense for doing something different? Finally, I don't think it's ugly, it's actually quite svelt. I'd get one if it had a qwerty on it. Then again, I have an odd taste in phones, I have a Danger Hiptop (Tmobile Sidekick) afterall.
The next remark is false. The previous remark is true.
For anyone who lives and dies by their palm, take a look at KeySuite. It blows everything else away. The sync NEVER fails and it can have as many cals, address books, and todo's as you want, even from public exchange folders! YES! MULTIPLE!
PS. I am no shill. I just LOVE that program. And every time I hear that "SomethingXYZ(TM) can replace your palm!" I fear my time is being wasted by a reviewer who is younger than than Palm OS itself.
it looks exciting but how can you have a useful PDA in a 128 x 160 screen?!
I hope they'd find a way to make a screen much bigger.
Well, I haven't seen much of a review on the site, but you can get the specs here: Nokia 7600 specs
Aside from the WCDMA support it does noto seem to offer much more than the 7650 or the 7250i (oh, 7250i doesn't have Bluetooth, and there's no radio in the 7600), so I don't get the bit about "Nokia's first attempt", it's just the next phone in Nokia's high-end line - nothing to get too excited about.
Real life is overrated.
I don't know about other people, but Nokia have moved away from traditional keypads of late and it's really put me off their phones.
Sure I can see design benefits from moving away from the 1-9 + 0 arrangement, but this design seems to be taking it a little too far. It actually seems to make the phone incredibly bulky and fat. I don't know why the story-poster suggested that it was their first attempt at a 'thin' PDA-cum-phone, because in certainly doesn't look like it!
I've just got a T610 and am very happy with it. Chocolatee bar form factor, small and very useable. I don't have a PDA as it performs all the functions I need, so as far as I'm concerned, a phone with a PDA in it that looks and functions like neither is a bit of a novelty and not something I could ever see there being a huge market for.
That said, the N-gage looks interesting, but what is it about adding game consoles/PDAs/kitchen sink to phones all of a sudden?
That wasn't a review. It was a press release.
:)
Interesting design. Looks like your typical skinned mp3 player
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EEEEWWWWWWwww.
If any of my co-workers pulls this out at a buisness meeting, I'm going to punch them in the face.
I'll do it.
-n-
...shit that thing is ugly.
No amount of cool features and interoperability can make up for that fact that I'd rather be seen masturbating in public than holding this thing up to my face.
BFL
There's one thing computing teaches you, and that's that there's no point to remembering everything.
--Doug Copland
Sure, the new 7600 from Nokia has everything.
It doesn't have everything. It's a 3G phone but lacks Videocalls (due to placement of camera/lack of 2nd camera). The MP3 abilities also seems like crap (28MB come on, I thought 128MB was minimum today). I can't believe people still buys Nokia phones considering this mindnumbingly stupid attemt. I've owned 2 Nokias before (had big troubles with the batteries on both) switched to SE and never ever going back.
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What the hell is wrong with Nokia's designs lately? I know they are trying to innovate, but jesus christ, reign those designers in. Just cause someone can create a Winamp skin, doesn't mean they can design a phone.
Imagine a bewolf cluster of...
well whatever
A cell phone that converts to a wrap around display that fits over my eyes like oversized goggles and lets me watch movies.
Bip Bip Beep Beep
<Operator> The fingers you have used to dial are too fat. To order a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now.
Even with the current cell-phones that have lot's of cool games inside, internet connection, and on some even video, talking is one of the last thing you do with it. You might even get annoyed that someone actually calls you and disrupts your snake game...
It should just be called a portable mini-computer, also having the option for voice communication!
The reason why Nokia got to the dominant market position they enjoy today is because their phones were simple and intuitive to use, and looked sort of cute and non-threatening and accessible, but not to the extent that they came over as toy-like. In a world of disgustingly ugly Ericssons with awful interfaces and Motorolas that were just downright embarrassing, they cleaned up because they appealed to the masses.
Now, though, they seem to be forgetting everything that made them popular. Their devices are becoming ever more contrived in both appearance and functionality, and they're blatantly chasing the zeitgeist instead of telling us all what it was.
Meanwhile, the companies that they so thoroughly trounced have really raised their game, and phones like the Sony Ericsson T610 are exactly the sort of thing you might have expected from Nokia before they started producing phones that look like they've melted in an effort to appeal to tha kidz.
This stupid gadget's yet another example of this silliness. Amazingly, it actually uses elements of a UI layout that Nokia had previously binned because users hated it - well, OK, admittely it's been updated, but several years ago they played with a prototype of a device with the buttons in a row down the side, thinking that it would increase speed of text input for SMS messages, but it turned out it was much worse. There's ample detail about it in this book. Here, instead of one row, they've got two, but apart from that, it's pretty much the same idea they've already rejected. Now tell me they aren't going for form over function.
Oh, and it's a crap shape for putting in your pocket. By my reckoning it's about the size of a 3.5" floppy, maybe a bit smaller. Now look at the way you'll have to hold it in your hand - the broadest diagonal will go right across the palm of your hand. Try picking up a floppy and hold it that way and tell me it's comfortable. And in all likelihood you've got big ol' Western hands - how's it going to go down in Japan? Remember how small those original designed-for-Japan Playstation joypads without the analogue bits felt in your mitts?
Ooh, but isn't it pretty?
You hvae to wonder how long it will get use to being able to text fast on that keyboard layout. I'm not saying the classic layout is ideal but everyone knows where the keys are
Rus
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Of course, this from a company that hired models to pose as tourists and ask people to take their picture when the company introduced a camera phone.
Who's surprised they have a few tame news outlets?
If it's a PDA manufacturer that adds a phone, you end up with a great PDA and a sucky phone. And vice versa.
As much as both phone and PDA manufacturers would like to marry these two products to make one less thing to carry, I'm convinced that from a mform factor & UI perspective that it will always be a trade-off. It's easier to just wear a jacket or vest for the extra pockets and carry both.
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
"Simon"
This phone is nothing but a fashion item for the European teens. For those of you familiar with the Nokia phone system, it is a Series 40 phone (Like the 7210), and not a Series 60 (7650, 3650, N-Gage, etc) or a Series 80 (9110, 9210, 9210i) which are the PDA style phones.
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SIGERR: laziness exceeds quota
I was prejudiced against Nokia for the longest time because of their emphasis on being cute. I recently got a "normal" Nokia phone (8265), on which the only non-normal item is the buttons, which are somewhat oddly-shaped and laid out. I like the phone a lot on the whole. Still, it seems that they refuse to make a "normal" phone that isn't the size of a brick. Weird button feel or layout seems to be the biggest problem. But judging by the pictures linked to in the article, it looks as though this thing might be difficult to even talk on.
I realize that looks sell, and I'm not one of those "give me just a phone, dammit" people. But let function rule over looks for at least some things. Don't put the buttons in a circle, for chrissake.
I am all for the revolution that merges all of these devices into one useful device that I just carry around with me.
:)
I enjoy carrying around my 3650 and being able to snap pictures all the time. They aren't super high 5 megapixel pictures, but I also don't carry my super high 5 megapixel camera with me all the time. It would be nice if the image quality for these babies reached 1 megapixel.
This phone however suffers from some flaws that make it a bit unfriendly. The dialing interface is worse than that of the 3650. If you're going to go through all that trouble (and have an expensive phone to boot) - you might as well go touchscreen and put the keys on the interface.
The phone simply doesn't have enough memory to truly be useful in its stock configuration. Hopefully information floating around about lack of memory upgradability are false as its somewhat pointless to have an integrated device going around with such a trivially small amount of memory.
Its about time that a good Nokia phone gets voice dialing though
If you buy a regular smartphone or a proprietary-OS PDA/Phone, your cell phone company decides for you what it can do.
If you buy a Palm/Windows/Symbian based phone, YOU get to decide what the thing does.
Do I like my phone's fat email client, native-format attachment reader/editor, VNC client and USB modem app? Of course I do: I'm the one who put them there.
on purpose. Man they must have been under some tight deadline or under the influnence of some bad drugs to come up with that and think it's the best design for their hot new product.
That's not a review! That is quite literally a cut-and-paste from the Nokia press release!
Here's the original
Here's the copy.
Spot the difference.
If you look, they even include the asterisk from the Press Release, without copying the footnote it links to!
Your comments were not buttock-related.
Pls fix k thx
Fundamentally I want one of two discrete solutions;
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At least it's a quick sell to the "gotta have the latest gadget" crowd...
For those of you bitching about the 3650... don't worry, this 7600 is as available in the US (GSM 1900, remember?) as the 7650, the grown-up older brother of the 3650.
Which is to say, we're not getting any of the better phones.
--Matthew
Any phone manufacturer who thinks lots of people want a phone with keys in anything other than the familiar
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pattern is on crack.
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I am the only one that find this mobile phone to be the ugliest ever developed?
Bet this
Has nobody said anything yet about the mention of AAC in the review? This is the first I've heard of any other device playing the same format that iPods play... Are there any other MP3 players that also play AAC? Will we see more AAC support cropping up, and faster than Ogg Vorbis support seems to be coming along? I hope so! (Well, I hope for more AAC support in other devices, I don't really care if it comes along faster than Vorbis support...)
...yet another phone designed for us to lose them, prompting us to buy the next design which will be ugly, unintuitive, and even easier to lose.
The P800 has *excellent* handwriting recognition. I can knock out long text messages in seconds. I really don't understand why anyone wouldn't buy a P800. If for no other reason than PalmOS sucks and SymbianOS rules.
How about instead of cramming this device with as much as digitally possible, they put the money into towers and bandwidth. I've been through three different carriers (Verizon, Sprint, and now Cingular), with five different cellphones (Samsungs and Nokias) in Washington, DC. I have yet to find anyone who can give me a strong signal within every acre of the beltway, and/or consistently make and hold a phone call.
That is UNACCEPTABLE, when all this money is thrown into shit a vast majority of the mobile public does not care about.
Smaller phones would be more nuisance than gain - the keys and screen are as small as they can get and still remain useful for most people. What we need is lighter and more ergonomic phones - same general size, but a better and less bulky shape. Consider the fact that many clip their phone to their belt, yet it isn't in any way designed for such a purpose - you always have a box jutting out from your side. Why not make it crescent-shaped? It could hug your belt, remain closer to your body, and be less likely to smash into things (rounded outside, more like a dome-shape than present).
GL
Dude, this is so going to kick the Treo 600s butt! Same for the highend Sony Ericcson! ... not. There are phones out there with better integrated cameras and *real* PDAs as well as MP3 players. This is a halfassed try and doesn't offer anything above a number of other phones which already offer these features apart from a whacky design.
...but does that mean it can "Sync"??
:-(
I'm looking into getting my first cell phone, but I want one that I'll be able to sync with my calendar, address book, etc... I don't care if it's not a full PDA - but if it has a calendar or whatnot built in to begin with, I want to be able to sync it.
It seems that all the new phones only sync with the providers servers and there's no direct connection method...
Wiwi
"I trust in my abilities,
but I want more then they offer"
You might take alook at the Kyocera 7135. It is a phone first, with PDA functionality. MP3 player too. And, unlike the Samsung i500, it has a Secure Digital card slot and speakerphone. Another cool feature is the pager style display on the top of the phone. It runs on Palm OS 4.1 and so far works great for me. Here is a review from PC Magazine.
Phones are neat because you can dial with one hand - in the dark.
PDA's were held back because they took two hands.
Finally, palm/handspring came up with that little joystick thingy that allows one handed use.
Yeah, PDA/Phones are finally one-handeable, but they're probably still a little hard to use without looking.
Enter this beast which splits the number pad in two vertical rows on either side of the display.
You now need to look and use two hands, just to DIAL the phone.
because I have been enjoined by this Holy Office to abandon the false opinion which maintains that the Sun is the centre
Looks more like a $600 contraceptive case.
If it becomes availble in pink, the young ladies can make a frantic dash to answer that important call only to discover they're answering a rubber diaphragm!
Agree about the ugliness, like the 3650, but have a look at http://www.mphone.co.uk/Ericsson/z1010.html for a SonyEricsson phone that at least doesn't look too bad.
and mod me down. but don't claim that's gw bush's quote. he didn't make it up. his press guys did. he doesn't have the brains for that.
I have always wanted a cell phone that's an MP3 player. 29 megs of memory obviously won't cut it, but they're only going to get better from here on.
I'm eagerly waiting for the day when we'll have a small device that's a cell phone, mp3 player, and full web browser, WITH a reasonable input interface. I applaud each step closer to that day.
Nokia 7600 looks good but I am getting this one:
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Handspring/Palm has a preview of the new 600 series [1]. Since I'm very "PalmCentric", this is the kind of direction I want to go -- a PalmOS device that's a good phone and lets me drop one device (and its travel charger, cradle, etc etc). It also has a built in camera for pinhole pictures.
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Problem is, I doubt it's really wearable. I need something that clips on my belt. If they dumped the keyboard from this one and used a Tungsten T like slider to extend the device for use I think they could make it wearable.
In other words, I want a slightly skinnier cross between the Treo 600 and the Tungsten T, with a well designed cradle that will attach firmly to be my belt.
Is that too much to ask
I suspect that I won't get it until late next year, more's the shame.
john
[1]http://www.handspring.com/treo600
John Faughnan
jfaughnan@spamcop.net
... but can I use it as a phone?
We're almost there...with bluetooth interfaces to implanted cochlear implants, and to visual cortex direct neural simulation stimulators, we can do away with the clumsy spinal taps with which Neo and friends have to put up.
Now, if we can just figure out how to teach the damn things to be suspicious of new acquaintances, we can beat the Borg via free-market alternatives to the one, monopolizing collective!
Especially the first point is what I'd be most interested in.
Nokia has made several mistakes with this phone. First of all, the most obvious thing is that it's _so_ ugly.
Secondly, it's a UMTS phone, which could be a good think except Nokia doesn't think video chat is important.
Third - Nokias track record when it comes to quality in their products sure as hell won't pursuade me buy this phone.
No, Motorolas A920 is the way to go. It looks great.
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If I use a phone with a different layout, man, there goes a bunch of my friends! :)
If they were REALLY your friends, you would store their numbers in the phonebook and never have to dial again.
mmmm.... no ... Nokia's sales are sliding too. That design is impractical and ugly ... not to mention COMPLETELY boring - like the parent said, it looks like a WinAMP (in my case Audion) Skin - one I wouldn't download.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
That phone is fugly.
What!!!!????
It makes phone calls, takes pictures, plays music, has games... and you can't dry you hair with it?
Sorry, but until they come up with a device that AT LEAST lets you talk on the phone, take pictures, play music, play games, dry my hair, press my clothes, clean my room, and check for new porn on the net, I'm not interested. Thank you very much.
As ugly as it is, if it doesn't come back by itself, someone will surely return it to you. No one would want to keep it.
You were 80% angel, 10% demon. The rest was hard to explain. - Over The Rhine
"Math in a song is good."-Linford
Selectable 900/1800/1900 MHz? Makes you wonder why they didn't go with 1900 MHz in the first place. Oh, maybe there are there games which run too fast on 1900 MHz?
I should hope young ladies of today would use something more effective than a diaphragm.
This device looks really snazzy and I like the jewelry, but I'm pretty happy with my hiptop, which now supports SSH for free after this week's over-the-air firmware update, and it has a full keyboard. I've written a spreadsheet and a peer-to-peer sharing app, hacked on an IRC app, and written some other stuff for it, all with their Java SDK.
Why on earth don't mobile phone camera lenses have some sort of lens cover. The screen on my phone is covered in scratches, I asume the lens on my camera phone would be to after a short while.
Sindri Traustason.
...what's wrong with cell phones these days isn't the insane, impractical designs (although that's mostly Nokia) or the fact that they're trying to make a phone that does everything for you - I don't like the way service providers rip off their customers at every opporunity. You know.
" High quality streaming video!*
Digital camera and video recorder!
XHTML browser!
Multimedia messaging!
Built in JAVA!~
* Cost: $0.10/second
Phone doesn't have enough memory to make this worthwhile. It can't be upgraded.
Cost: $0.10/page
Cost: $0.15/KB
~ Not activated until you give us your firstborn."
Agh.
My ass was once voted 'Third best ass at Criterion Studios Ltd'
I kid you not.
It could be that the center section has really fine pixels, but nah...