The Key manufacturers could also vote for a TAX on blank keys and key copiers in order to recoup the losses that they have from people not buying NEW locks to replace the ones they had. Getting a new key made!?! That's PIRACY!
I think Schlage should start the BLA (Business Lock Alliance) and send people notices:
ACT NOW and we won't fine you for illegal copies of your keys. When you lose your keys, you MUST buy a new lock! If you buy this shiny new lock, we will not bring the police to your house and imprison your family.
Cellphones don't use the same phone switches. YOu don't _ever_ need to dial a "1" with my (Verizon) cell phone. If you dial it, it's ignored. The Cell phones only step down to the local phone switches after the cellular stuff has decoded the phone number.
although they are advertising a '1' is mandatory, it will actually possible to just dial 10 digits instead of the full 11.
Usually there is a transition period where they _allow_ the old way while people get used to it. They will stop allowing it after the transition is over.
Well, AFAIK, most switches support 10 digit dialing even if you don't _have_ to. The error message you're getting is stupid... my switch (AT&T 5E) just routes it anyway (ignores the 1).
Actually no. Just like some places have 10 digits now, not everywhere would need to use 11 digits. If NYC, for instance adds the "123" area code and requires everyone to use 11 digits, that's fine.
Of course, when the rest of the country calls there they _already_ have to dial 11 digits to get there. So, it's just a minor modification (if any) to the switch. Actually, most of these moves aren't even made until most modern switches can handle it. Even the really ancient ones can be changed to do it.
That and I didn't want anyone heckling me if my caffeine-induced hazy state caused me to make an error... god forbid! I'd be modded down as Overrated, Flamebait, etc.;-)
They want to add the "1" to the front so that they can add new area codes. Area codes USED to be: [2-9][0,1][1-9] Exchanges were: [2-9][2-9][0-9] ( i think - foggy memory )
This made them easily recognizable to the switch.
Recently, many areas of the US switched to 10 digit dialing. The new area codes are: [2-9][0-9][0-9] (many more) the new exchanges are: [0-9][0-9][0-9] (many more)
NOW, they're setting up for MORE area codes so that we can have: 1 - [0-9][0-9][0-9] - [0-9][0-9][0-9] - [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]
I'm not doing the math for you , but that's a lot more numbers than previously allowed.
1) Is it me or is everyone in this thread mathematically challenged? Philly doesn't have 11 digit dialing, neither does Massachusetts. They have 10 digit dialing, right?
2) And, if you add the SAME number to the beginning of everything, that gives you nothing. Why would they do that?
3) I used to work on phone switch software, and the only reason I can see is that they don't want to have to differentiate between a local (i.e. 10 digit) call and a long distance (i.e. 11 digit) call. This way, the switch can run less code. No need to wait before it starts routing the call. It can start routing as soon as you start typing numbers. This, and the use of reserved area codes (\d[0,1]\d) as exchanges, was the big motivator behind the 10 digit move.
And socialism proposes to feed everyone because everyone is human after all, while capitalism says that only a priveleged few should eat.
No, it says that you should have to compete for marketshare. This creates varying levels of income based on skills, knowledge and drive to succeed (amongst other things).
Yes. I am a socialist. It is not a bad word. And yes, I will sacrifice one dollar or many to feed you, if you are in need. I will not tell you that if you're starving, it's because you're a lazy bum who should get a job.
The problem is that socialism is in direct conflict with Capitalism. A tough situation. I also give money to charities and support homeless. I have worked in soup kitchens. NONE of that is socialist. It is charity. It is helping your fellow man. I have no problem with that.
What I have a problem with is being _forced_ to help some lazy auto union worker who comes to work, punches his clock and does the minimum work he can without getting in trouble. Since all the cars made in the US are made this way, I don't buy US cars. Thus, the free market works for me. Have you ever seen the piece of shit cars they had in the USSR? I have. I love Capitalism.
Actually, I would rather have the market drive it. If the building is important, good money would be spent on it. Good workers would be hired because of their REPUTATION, not because they're old or have "seniority" or they are just "not busy" at the time. You might as well pull up to a street corner and hire migrant workers!
My assertion is neither wrong, nor an assertion: it is an opinion.
The "lazy-piece-of-shit-can't-survive-in-a-free-market -because-I-suck-union-worker" has a job because he fulfills a consumer demand. "lazy-parasite-owners" on the otherhand, inflate their heads, blow their own horns and otherwise pretend that they are nescessary while looking down on the people that actually do work.
Wait until you get a little money in your pocket. See if you're still spouting this shit. Maybe, you'll even have enough money to sign in and not post as a Coward.
Consumers pay "lazy-parasite-owners" for products and services instead of the workers because the "lazy-parasite-owners' have managed to insert themselves between the workers and the consumer. Period.
The worker can leave and get a new job. It is a market economy, you jackass. People hop into the unions because they can get good pay when they're young. They take advantage of the system. Then, when they get older, all they do is bitch about how they can't get any more money when they're doing the SAME FUCKING JOB they were doing 20 years ago!
I'm a union member. My union provides me with affordable health care and travel insurance when I'm traveling, legal representation when I get screwed (I'm a freelance writer/journalist; sometimes companies or publications use what I write, then don't pay up at all), and gives me a voice in government (because -- and lets be honest -- how often to national governments bother to hear the voice of a single citizen?)
Good for you... I buy that stuff myself. (you do have a point with the government listening, but it's only because of threats of "strikes" which I believe should be illegal)
All of these things might conceivably raise costs for the people that buy my work. But what you're arguing is that I should have no health care or insurance, that I should be easily screwable and that I should have no voice in government, all so the products you buy might be a little cheaper. This is a very selfish attitude on your part and does not tend to lead to quality products for your consumpution.
It is not selfish, it is CAPITALISM. Unions are socialist. I'm not arguing that you should have no insurance or health care. That has nothing to do with Unions. Insurance and health care is available (at a cost) to everyone on the planet.
I know nothing about you, but who knows, you might be able to afford a little price increase for quality and to protect the humanity of those who serve you if you also had a union going to bat to keep your wages fair for what you do.
I can afford the things I need. Frankly, if I was in a Union, I would make less money than I do now. From what I know of them, there are fixed rates for positions. I am not near the average for rates for my industry, so I would get screwed.
We can all either be economic slaves or valued workers together. I choose the latter; I will continue to pay my union dues and vote in my union elections!
This sounds word-for-word like the kind of spiel Amway gives at Baptist churches. Maybe you should post "Work at home, be your own boss!" flyers on lampposts.
No, it's the words of respectable American people that don't want shit handed to them.
You like when a worker has to be better than every other worker? So every worker has to be better than every other worker?
Yes, it's called "competition". It's a hell of a lot better than the go-to-school-for-6-weeks-and-never-learn-a-damned- new-thing-for-30-years-and-expect-great-money approach.
This sounds paradoxical, maybe you see the world like a Escher sketch where everyone sits in the so-called high seat.
Put down the crack pipe. Have you ever had a job?
As far as trying harder, productivity skyrocketed in the US over the past three decades, all of the extra wealth went not to the workers creating the wealth, but to the owners.
Productivity != Hard Work
Just because people have been more _productive_ doesn't mean they're working harder. My professor in school had to flip binary switches to program! I was more productive in school than he was. Was I working harder? NO. I had _better_ _tools_.
And as far as the Marxist "wealth going to the owners" thing, I started with nothing and was making more per year than both my parents ever made combined by the time I was 26. So, pick up your bootstraps and get a fucking job. Work hard. Get ahead. Stop sticking your hand out and NO, McDonald's is not responsible if you dump hot coffee on your crotch.
This is the USA. Start your own business if you don't like your current position. It's called grabbing your sack and doing something for yourself rather than having someone hand it to you. Otherwise, move to a Socialist country.
I, for one, like it when the worker actually has to be better than everyone else, has to sell himself a little more, try harder. It's called "getting ahead". I don't seem to have any problem doing it and I came from nothing (no money, no inheritance, just hard work)
And, coincidentally, I went to college with him, so I have to give him a plug
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I think Schlage should start the BLA (Business Lock Alliance) and send people notices:
ACT NOW and we won't fine you for illegal copies of your keys. When you lose your keys, you MUST buy a new lock! If you buy this shiny new lock, we will not bring the police to your house and imprison your family.
This is a LIMITED TIME offer of amnesty! ACT NOW!
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Cellphones don't use the same phone switches. YOu don't _ever_ need to dial a "1" with my (Verizon) cell phone. If you dial it, it's ignored. The Cell phones only step down to the local phone switches after the cellular stuff has decoded the phone number.
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Usually there is a transition period where they _allow_ the old way while people get used to it. They will stop allowing it after the transition is over.
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Actually no. Just like some places have 10 digits now, not everywhere would need to use 11 digits.
If NYC, for instance adds the "123" area code and requires everyone to use 11 digits, that's fine.
Of course, when the rest of the country calls there they _already_ have to dial 11 digits to get there. So, it's just a minor modification (if any) to the switch. Actually, most of these moves aren't even made until most modern switches can handle it. Even the really ancient ones can be changed to do it.
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Actually it would just have to NOT be 1-010-xxx-xxxx
:-)
So, it only cuts out 10,000,000 phone numbers
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Not yet, but I believe that's the plan.
Yeah, that's why many places already have 10 digit dialing. I was working on the software to support it in 1994 :-)
That and I didn't want anyone heckling me if my caffeine-induced hazy state caused me to make an error... god forbid! I'd be modded down as Overrated, Flamebait, etc.
Good point
<sarcasm> But I'm sure they wouldn't do this just to make more money... </sarcasm>
Area codes USED to be: [2-9][0,1][1-9]
Exchanges were: [2-9][2-9][0-9] ( i think - foggy memory )
This made them easily recognizable to the switch.
Recently, many areas of the US switched to 10 digit dialing.
The new area codes are: [2-9][0-9][0-9] (many more)
the new exchanges are: [0-9][0-9][0-9] (many more)
NOW, they're setting up for MORE area codes so that we can have:
1 - [0-9][0-9][0-9] - [0-9][0-9][0-9] - [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]
I'm not doing the math for you , but that's a lot more numbers than previously allowed.
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2) And, if you add the SAME number to the beginning of everything, that gives you nothing. Why would they do that?
3) I used to work on phone switch software, and the only reason I can see is that they don't want to have to differentiate between a local (i.e. 10 digit) call and a long distance (i.e. 11 digit) call. This way, the switch can run less code. No need to wait before it starts routing the call. It can start routing as soon as you start typing numbers. This, and the use of reserved area codes (\d[0,1]\d) as exchanges, was the big motivator behind the 10 digit move.
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Haven't you seen that little gizmo that looks like a drill? AFAIK, it opens pretty much anything with the old style tumbler locks.
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;-)
And socialism proposes to feed everyone because everyone is human after all, while capitalism says that only a priveleged few should eat.
No, it says that you should have to compete for marketshare. This creates varying levels of income based on skills, knowledge and drive to succeed (amongst other things).
Yes. I am a socialist. It is not a bad word. And yes, I will sacrifice one dollar or many to feed you, if you are in need. I will not tell you that if you're starving, it's because you're a lazy bum who should get a job.
The problem is that socialism is in direct conflict with Capitalism. A tough situation. I also give money to charities and support homeless. I have worked in soup kitchens. NONE of that is socialist. It is charity. It is helping your fellow man. I have no problem with that.
What I have a problem with is being _forced_ to help some lazy auto union worker who comes to work, punches his clock and does the minimum work he can without getting in trouble. Since all the cars made in the US are made this way, I don't buy US cars. Thus, the free market works for me.
Have you ever seen the piece of shit cars they had in the USSR? I have. I love Capitalism.
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My assertion is neither wrong, nor an assertion: it is an opinion.
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Please explain what you're talking about. I can't tell from the contex... oh wait... you didn't put any context in there... nevermind...
The "lazy-piece-of-shit-can't-survive-in-a-free-market -because-I-suck-union-worker" has a job because he fulfills a consumer demand. "lazy-parasite-owners" on the otherhand, inflate their heads, blow their own horns and otherwise pretend that they are nescessary while looking down on the people that actually do work.
Wait until you get a little money in your pocket. See if you're still spouting this shit. Maybe, you'll even have enough money to sign in and not post as a Coward.
Consumers pay "lazy-parasite-owners" for products and services instead of the workers because the "lazy-parasite-owners' have managed to insert themselves between the workers and the consumer. Period.
The worker can leave and get a new job. It is a market economy, you jackass. People hop into the unions because they can get good pay when they're young. They take advantage of the system. Then, when they get older, all they do is bitch about how they can't get any more money when they're doing the SAME FUCKING JOB they were doing 20 years ago!
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I'm a union member. My union provides me with affordable health care and travel insurance when I'm traveling, legal representation when I get screwed (I'm a freelance writer/journalist; sometimes companies or publications use what I write, then don't pay up at all), and gives me a voice in government (because -- and lets be honest -- how often to national governments bother to hear the voice of a single citizen?)
Good for you... I buy that stuff myself. (you do have a point with the government listening, but it's only because of threats of "strikes" which I believe should be illegal)
All of these things might conceivably raise costs for the people that buy my work. But what you're arguing is that I should have no health care or insurance, that I should be easily screwable and that I should have no voice in government, all so the products you buy might be a little cheaper. This is a very selfish attitude on your part and does not tend to lead to quality products for your consumpution.
It is not selfish, it is CAPITALISM. Unions are socialist.
I'm not arguing that you should have no insurance or health care. That has nothing to do with Unions. Insurance and health care is available (at a cost) to everyone on the planet.
I know nothing about you, but who knows, you might be able to afford a little price increase for quality and to protect the humanity of those who serve you if you also had a union going to bat to keep your wages fair for what you do.
I can afford the things I need. Frankly, if I was in a Union, I would make less money than I do now. From what I know of them, there are fixed rates for positions. I am not near the average for rates for my industry, so I would get screwed.
We can all either be economic slaves or valued workers together. I choose the latter; I will continue to pay my union dues and vote in my union elections!
Read any Marx lately?
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This sounds word-for-word like the kind of spiel Amway gives at Baptist churches. Maybe you should post "Work at home, be your own boss!" flyers on lampposts.
No, it's the words of respectable American people that don't want shit handed to them.
You like when a worker has to be better than every other worker? So every worker has to be better than every other worker?
Yes, it's called "competition". It's a hell of a lot better than the go-to-school-for-6-weeks-and-never-learn-a-damned
This sounds paradoxical, maybe you see the world like a Escher sketch where everyone sits in the so-called high seat.
Put down the crack pipe. Have you ever had a job?
As far as trying harder, productivity skyrocketed in the US over the past three decades, all of the extra wealth went not to the workers creating the wealth, but to the owners.
Productivity != Hard Work
Just because people have been more _productive_ doesn't mean they're working harder. My professor in school had to flip binary switches to program! I was more productive in school than he was. Was I working harder? NO. I had _better_ _tools_.
And as far as the Marxist "wealth going to the owners" thing, I started with nothing and was making more per year than both my parents ever made combined by the time I was 26. So, pick up your bootstraps and get a fucking job. Work hard. Get ahead. Stop sticking your hand out and NO, McDonald's is not responsible if you dump hot coffee on your crotch.
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I, for one, like it when the worker actually has to be better than everyone else, has to sell himself a little more, try harder. It's called "getting ahead". I don't seem to have any problem doing it and I came from nothing (no money, no inheritance, just hard work)
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I really only got into software for the money (maybe I'd fall into the category of accountants that you hate).
*bang* (sound of hitting nail on head.. hehe)
Hope things work out for you
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