I have this mouse and it does not interfere whatsoever with my wireless access points. From what I've read it was specifically engineered not to interfere at reasonable distances from the receiver.
Overall, it is a very nice mouse albeit a bit sensitive under Linux/Xorg
While I agree that this may give it the *perception* of being unstable, this is probably not the case. The discussion of the future of the suite is public domain, and therefore anyone is free to eavesdrop on
the latest news (as obviously happened here) and spread all kinds of rumours or silly what-if's. Remember, that corporate entities probably go through the same discussion, but behind closed doors, so the client is left in the dark.(Microsoft sure as hell hasn't maintained IE....)
I am confident that the Mozilla foundation will find an appropriate solution. And if not,
I'm sure someone else will. If they drop the ball completely (not likely), it sounds like an excellent way for another entity (company or other) to swoop in and gain some credibility by maintaining the suite.
* Used the posted ebuild (from rage forums) to compile/install the driver * changed "Keyboard" to "kbd" in config file * ran "opengl-update ati" * Detects the card correctly: (--) Chipset RADEON 9800 XT (R360 4E4A) found * Attempted to get working with InternalAGPGart "yes" - No luck here, the desktop will come up, but machine will hard lock after a few seconds or when trying to drag a window. Made that the chipset specific AGP module (intel-agp.ko in my case) was NOT loaded via lsmod; also moved the module to a different location so it would not autoload. * Recompiled kernel with chipset specific AGP module compiled in - No luck here either. Desktop comes up and fglrxinfo reports DRI enabled and opengl implentation to be ATI's. Running glxgears hard locks the machine again. Nothing in the Xorg.0.log files.
I have an ASUS P5B533-E and P4 2.4/533 with Radeon 9800XT, Running Gentoo Linux 2.6.10. I have officially given up on ever getting this card to work in linux. Anyone want to buy a Radeon 9800XT?
ATI claims to be developing a new driver every
two months, but considering this release was a
month late and doesn't improve on the old drivers
from what I've been hearing, I frankly don't believe them. Another thing, considering they are touting Xorg 6.8 support, how could they possibly
forget to update the fglrxconfig program to produce a working config for it!?! Sure it will work with XFree86, but how hard is it to check
whether the user has xfree or xorg (or ask) and change the keyboard driver and output filename approriately? Jesus.
The problem I have with this is that IMAP spam filtering is not supported for my main email account . So I'm stuck hand filtering everything, after the campus' crappy spamassassin installation removes about 1/3 of the spam.
One of the benefits to a _synchronous_ design is that you only have to be concerned that your logic levels are correct during clock edges which is a very small percentage of the time. Your logic can be bouncing all over the place before and after a clock edge
Not to nitpick, but don't forget about hold times
after the rising edge of the clock pulse. I took
introductory digital design last year, and IIRC these are significant so that you don't skip through several states in a moore/mealy state machine in a single clock cycle.
Really, how many of you would willingly use X11 if it was not free?
Not fair. If X11 was not free, it would have
the possibility of being a better/different product. It is open source, and therefore it discloses all kinds of information to the general public, including video hardware details. If X11 was not-free they could enter into all kinds of NDAs with hardware vendors, and provide both better support for video cards and a more rapid
development cycle.
I would absolutely consider buying a card like this after my experience with ATI's drivers in linux. In fact, I've often wondered why there hasn't been a company like this years ago. The user base for linux has grown substantially in the last few years, and considering the hoops you have to jump through to get 3d graphics support working in certain cases, I think there is definitely a market for such a video card. Let's remember that there are many users out there using older/legacy machines to run linux, and don't necessarily need the latest and greatest [read: 6800GT/X300] as their graphics card.
I would be THRILLED if there was a card out there for $150, where I could compile the drivers from source and run OpenGL-based games at a decent speed on this computer.
Like some others have said though, while I don't expect them to be competitive with nVidia and ATi's higher end products, I WOULD like them to provide moderate performance, perhaps on par with a lower end radeon cards. The lower end ATi Radeon 9200 provided excellent performace per dollar, and I would be willing to purchase a similar open-source'd card for well over the amount I paid for that card ($89). I realize that this would require quite of bit of investment though, since the company would probably need to use top-of-line or nearly top-of-line device process flows to achieve this type of chip.
My only fear is that if this becomes a reality and catches on, we will see ATi/nVidia step up their support for Linux JUST enough to pull away any consumer base this company might gain.
Regardless, I agree that to get from concept -> implementation requires $$$, so I would recommend that this company come to some kind of decision and allow the consumer to "prepurchase" or otherwise finance such a card.
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I have this mouse and it does not interfere whatsoever with my wireless access points. From what I've read it was specifically engineered not to interfere at reasonable distances from the receiver.
Overall, it is a very nice mouse albeit a bit sensitive under Linux/Xorg
You don't necessarily have to reinstall if you forget your Administrator password. Check out the following utility:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/While I agree that this may give it the *perception* of being unstable, this is probably not the case. The discussion of the future of the suite is public domain, and therefore anyone is free to eavesdrop on the latest news (as obviously happened here) and spread all kinds of rumours or silly what-if's. Remember, that corporate entities probably go through the same discussion, but behind closed doors, so the client is left in the dark.(Microsoft sure as hell hasn't maintained IE....)
I am confident that the Mozilla foundation will find an appropriate solution. And if not, I'm sure someone else will. If they drop the ball completely (not likely), it sounds like an excellent way for another entity (company or other) to swoop in and gain some credibility by maintaining the suite.
My $0.02.
I have an ASUS P5B533-E and P4 2.4/533 with Radeon 9800XT, Running Gentoo Linux 2.6.10. I have officially given up on ever getting this card to work in linux. Anyone want to buy a Radeon 9800XT?
ATI claims to be developing a new driver every two months, but considering this release was a month late and doesn't improve on the old drivers from what I've been hearing, I frankly don't believe them. Another thing, considering they are touting Xorg 6.8 support, how could they possibly forget to update the fglrxconfig program to produce a working config for it!?! Sure it will work with XFree86, but how hard is it to check whether the user has xfree or xorg (or ask) and change the keyboard driver and output filename approriately? Jesus.
The problem I have with this is that IMAP spam filtering is not supported for my main email account . So I'm stuck hand filtering everything, after the campus' crappy spamassassin installation removes about 1/3 of the spam.
One of the benefits to a _synchronous_ design is that you only have to be concerned that your logic levels are correct during clock edges which is a very small percentage of the time. Your logic can be bouncing all over the place before and after a clock edge
Not to nitpick, but don't forget about hold times after the rising edge of the clock pulse. I took introductory digital design last year, and IIRC these are significant so that you don't skip through several states in a moore/mealy state machine in a single clock cycle.
Really, how many of you would willingly use X11 if it was not free?
Not fair. If X11 was not free, it would have the possibility of being a better/different product. It is open source, and therefore it discloses all kinds of information to the general public, including video hardware details. If X11 was not-free they could enter into all kinds of NDAs with hardware vendors, and provide both better support for video cards and a more rapid development cycle.I would absolutely consider buying a card like this after my experience with ATI's drivers in linux. In fact, I've often wondered why there hasn't been a company like this years ago. The user base for linux has grown substantially in the last few years, and considering the hoops you have to jump through to get 3d graphics support working in certain cases, I think there is definitely a market for such a video card. Let's remember that there are many users out there using older/legacy machines to run linux, and don't necessarily need the latest and greatest [read: 6800GT/X300] as their graphics card.
I would be THRILLED if there was a card out there for $150, where I could compile the drivers from source and run OpenGL-based games at a decent speed on this computer.
Like some others have said though, while I don't expect them to be competitive with nVidia and ATi's higher end products, I WOULD like them to provide moderate performance, perhaps on par with a lower end radeon cards. The lower end ATi Radeon 9200 provided excellent performace per dollar, and I would be willing to purchase a similar open-source'd card for well over the amount I paid for that card ($89). I realize that this would require quite of bit of investment though, since the company would probably need to use top-of-line or nearly top-of-line device process flows to achieve this type of chip.
My only fear is that if this becomes a reality and catches on, we will see ATi/nVidia step up their support for Linux JUST enough to pull away any consumer base this company might gain.
Regardless, I agree that to get from concept -> implementation requires $$$, so I would recommend that this company come to some kind of decision and allow the consumer to "prepurchase" or otherwise finance such a card.