I'd thought about this and I think it may be relevant however there is no sustained effect for space probes. Stuff launched into Earth orbit still really counts as Earth mass for orbital purposes, it's only if it really leaves Earth's orbit that it matters and not much stuff has actually done that and the resulting impulse of departure would be negligible. However something sitting at the Lagrange point has an ongoing effect, at least in my opinion.
Whether it ammounts to a second a year is another question, seems pretty unlikely but I'd run it by someone with the capacity to do the math on the 3 body problem.
Just a thought and I know it's a miniscule mass by comparrison but we have sent some of Earth's mass to the Earth Sun L1 lagrange point which should slightly speed our orbit shouldn't it. The dates may coincide, it was launched in 95 but when it reached it's current orbit is unclear, some time towards the end of 1998 seems to be when some the instruments were first switched on. The on orbit dry mass of SOHO is 1350 kg.
So how about some back of the envelope calculations. How much mass at the Earth Sun L1 Lagrange point would it take to influence our orbit by one second per year?
I fully expect to be out by several orders of magnitude but can anyone answer?
This isn't a problem, the freeloaders don't cost anyone anything when it comes to copying opensource software, infact they help it by broadening the base for potential services, applications and general viability. It's the contributors who make he product great. How many people have contributed to Linux, or do you just use it? Did you pay for it or get a free download.
The point is that copying software is almost free, there's no harm done when you take. It doesn't subtract from what is already created, sure contributing helps it get written, but merely using the software helps it grow in many ways and it's no skin of anyone's nose.
This guy is just amazing, he still thinks it's not a scam. I can't help but wonder if the article is being a bit fast & loose with the facts. I mean how dumb can the guy be?
Correct, however someone might chose to implement with a signed int in which case you lose a bit of sign and only 31 bits to count positive seconds from epoch. So it's not a nasty hack or anything it could be something as trivial as supporting a feature with a signed vs unsigned type, and that could just be an omission leaving out "unsigned" in C code which many programmers do.
This is all a non issue except for really old legacy unix systems. In all versions of contemporary Unix and Unix like OSs folks have been using 64bit types to count seconds for years now. That should keep us ticking for a few hundred billion years.
You just demonstrated your complete lack of engineering knowledge. I suggest you research component MTBF and get a clue before posting again on the subject.
Oh, and what would they write docs in?.... StarOffice? Which GUI does that use then.... Oh! Well it'll work on a Gnome desktop OK, but if I want to compile it on UserLinux I have to do extra downloada from TrollTech or somewhere and hope it works... Hmm... something's very wrong with this picture.
This simply ingores the realities of making a useful distro.
Many developers need KDE, plain and simple. Unfortunately it has caught hold, but that's because it is a well written functional GUI.
The desktop is less of an issue but the current user base has it's preferences, for many developers it means userlinux will be ignored as a development platform I for one want a one stop distro I can use for development, ignoring key components means that for some it won't be UserLinux. The claims about downloading the components yourself is nonsense, the whole point of a distro is that you don't have to download the key packages separately.
Yes the desktops and GUIs are complex, but that's the current situation. That these are large major components is a reason to include both, not ignore one, that's just crazy.
When I first heard about Perens' plans I thought 'great' something to save us from RH's abandonment, but I had my concerns. Now it looks like I was right to, Perens has managed to stuff this up royally with one decision "by fiat".
A lack of consensus should have told the guy something, but he completely ignored the message and is now claiming it doesn't restrict anyone supporting it themselves, rubbish! You could make ths same case about Fedora.
Well in the book the orcs do all kill each other, in fact most of the fight isn't really described in the book. They're fighting over the mithril coat if I remember, but what happened is better explained with fleeing orcs getting shot with arrows etc. and two groups of orcs fighting each other. The film hints at it but there's just not enough info there. After Shelob there's a scene in the book where Sam decides to continue the quest taking Frodo's stuff then Sam puts the ring on to hide when the orcs come and find Frodo (and to sneak into the tower (I forget)). However he doesn't wear the ring to kill orcs AFAIK, he clutches the ring and it makes him look big to the surviving orcs who are already scared of a great elven warrior they assume wounded Shelob.
I can understand PJ not wanting us to know Sam has the ring, so don't expect to see anything like that. He went for the idea of the reversal of the ring being taken. The shadow on the wall is an obvious nod to the orcs fearing an enlarged Sam so the fans can enjoy the knowledge of the book.
The timing doesn't work to have the voice of Sauron at the black gate presenting the Mithril coat etc of Frodo before Sam tells Frodo he has the ring. The audience has to know that the ring isn't in the hands of the enemy unless you jump back in time which is a bit of a shame really. Dramatically that would be the best way for the film to thrill the audience but Cirith Ungol isn't close enough to Mount Doom.
The final product is amazing and that is largely down to his will and dedication. You seem to define the role of a director is very narrow. The scope of this film is immense and his role in making it happen was absolutely crucial.
A director does not just show up on the day of the shoot and yell action and cut.
I disagree. I thought the character acting was very compelling especially given the content and his direction of the actors amazing. Some of the edits and pacing in the final film left a lot to be desired, but there was a lot of stuff to get through.
I agree the pacing after Shelob is horrible, and unless you've read the books you wonder what happened to all the orcs killing each other. It's only hinted at then they're all dead. WFT?
EE will obviously be better with extra material in there.
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Do you even know what Troll is. It obviously wasn't Troll, geeze!
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Modded as troll, you have my sympathy. Moderation around here has gone to hell lately. There's endless crud modded as funny and insightful yet any thoughtful post not fitting with someone's canned views they've dutifully been indoctrinated with by Barney the purple dinosaur is modded as troll or flamebait.
No, there is no pressing need to see SCO's codebase. Knowing what parts of Linux are disputed would be enough to trace where it came from using CVS logs and other archives. That's more than enough to be getting on with for now.
What nonsense. This cannot result from a small hole in the ozone layer. Sunburn maybe, but even then this whole thing is based on numerous ludicrous pretexts. Sci-fi is at it's best when the "Sci" part is plausible.
Well if you want to know, it's the Gandalf confrontation with Sauroman at Isenguard followed by Wormtongue killing Sauroman (at Isenguard). Apparently it's a 7 more minutes scene.
Yes it is representative of the scouring, Jackson says so in his commentary on the extended edition. He also says it is not going to be in the third movie, so this has been known for over a year now.
He did film some of it, that's what Frodo sees in Galadriel's mirror in the first film (although Sam is in it:-/). It's kinda difficult to claim the scouring of the shire was never filmed when it's actually there on screen. Jackson discusses this in the commentary on the EE 4 disc set of the first movie. You are right that it won't be in the third film and Jackson never planned it to be.
In the movies Sauroman was intended to be killed at Isenguard and probably will in the extended edition. So he can't go scour the shire.
99% of my email is spam. Instead of taking a couple of seconds to get email over broadband I have to contact spam list servers etc and risk false positives from Bayesian filters and blocked addresses, it takes minutes and STILL >50% of the email that gets through is spam. So please don't give me your pap about how innocent spam is. SPAM is pure abuse, and should be criminalized
People who call you are obliged to remove you from their lists of callers and have a valit and traceable return number. SPAM has no such thing, most of it has forged headers and is sent from hijacked machines. To unsubscribe is to invite more spam.
Your analogy is specious and frankly you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
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I'd thought about this and I think it may be relevant however there is no sustained effect for space probes. Stuff launched into Earth orbit still really counts as Earth mass for orbital purposes, it's only if it really leaves Earth's orbit that it matters and not much stuff has actually done that and the resulting impulse of departure would be negligible. However something sitting at the Lagrange point has an ongoing effect, at least in my opinion.
Whether it ammounts to a second a year is another question, seems pretty unlikely but I'd run it by someone with the capacity to do the math on the 3 body problem.
I disagree, the orbital period will be affected, there are more than two bodies involved.
Just a thought and I know it's a miniscule mass by comparrison but we have sent some of Earth's mass to the Earth Sun L1 lagrange point which should slightly speed our orbit shouldn't it. The dates may coincide, it was launched in 95 but when it reached it's current orbit is unclear, some time towards the end of 1998 seems to be when some the instruments were first switched on. The on orbit dry mass of SOHO is 1350 kg.
So how about some back of the envelope calculations. How much mass at the Earth Sun L1 Lagrange point would it take to influence our orbit by one second per year?
I fully expect to be out by several orders of magnitude but can anyone answer?
This isn't a problem, the freeloaders don't cost anyone anything when it comes to copying opensource software, infact they help it by broadening the base for potential services, applications and general viability. It's the contributors who make he product great. How many people have contributed to Linux, or do you just use it? Did you pay for it or get a free download.
The point is that copying software is almost free, there's no harm done when you take. It doesn't subtract from what is already created, sure contributing helps it get written, but merely using the software helps it grow in many ways and it's no skin of anyone's nose.
This guy is just amazing, he still thinks it's not a scam. I can't help but wonder if the article is being a bit fast & loose with the facts. I mean how dumb can the guy be?
Correct, however someone might chose to implement with a signed int in which case you lose a bit of sign and only 31 bits to count positive seconds from epoch. So it's not a nasty hack or anything it could be something as trivial as supporting a feature with a signed vs unsigned type, and that could just be an omission leaving out "unsigned" in C code which many programmers do.
This is all a non issue except for really old legacy unix systems. In all versions of contemporary Unix and Unix like OSs folks have been using 64bit types to count seconds for years now. That should keep us ticking for a few hundred billion years.
You just demonstrated your complete lack of engineering knowledge. I suggest you research component MTBF and get a clue before posting again on the subject.
Oh, and what would they write docs in? .... StarOffice? Which GUI does that use then.... Oh! Well it'll work on a Gnome desktop OK, but if I want to compile it on UserLinux I have to do extra downloada from TrollTech or somewhere and hope it works... Hmm... something's very wrong with this picture.
This simply ingores the realities of making a useful distro.
Many developers need KDE, plain and simple. Unfortunately it has caught hold, but that's because it is a well written functional GUI.
The desktop is less of an issue but the current user base has it's preferences, for many developers it means userlinux will be ignored as a development platform I for one want a one stop distro I can use for development, ignoring key components means that for some it won't be UserLinux. The claims about downloading the components yourself is nonsense, the whole point of a distro is that you don't have to download the key packages separately.
Yes the desktops and GUIs are complex, but that's the current situation. That these are large major components is a reason to include both, not ignore one, that's just crazy.
When I first heard about Perens' plans I thought 'great' something to save us from RH's abandonment, but I had my concerns. Now it looks like I was right to, Perens has managed to stuff this up royally with one decision "by fiat".
A lack of consensus should have told the guy something, but he completely ignored the message and is now claiming it doesn't restrict anyone supporting it themselves, rubbish! You could make ths same case about Fedora.
Well in the book the orcs do all kill each other, in fact most of the fight isn't really described in the book. They're fighting over the mithril coat if I remember, but what happened is better explained with fleeing orcs getting shot with arrows etc. and two groups of orcs fighting each other. The film hints at it but there's just not enough info there. After Shelob there's a scene in the book where Sam decides to continue the quest taking Frodo's stuff then Sam puts the ring on to hide when the orcs come and find Frodo (and to sneak into the tower (I forget)). However he doesn't wear the ring to kill orcs AFAIK, he clutches the ring and it makes him look big to the surviving orcs who are already scared of a great elven warrior they assume wounded Shelob.
I can understand PJ not wanting us to know Sam has the ring, so don't expect to see anything like that. He went for the idea of the reversal of the ring being taken. The shadow on the wall is an obvious nod to the orcs fearing an enlarged Sam so the fans can enjoy the knowledge of the book.
The timing doesn't work to have the voice of Sauron at the black gate presenting the Mithril coat etc of Frodo before Sam tells Frodo he has the ring. The audience has to know that the ring isn't in the hands of the enemy unless you jump back in time which is a bit of a shame really. Dramatically that would be the best way for the film to thrill the audience but Cirith Ungol isn't close enough to Mount Doom.
Oh well.
The final product is amazing and that is largely down to his will and dedication. You seem to define the role of a director is very narrow. The scope of this film is immense and his role in making it happen was absolutely crucial.
A director does not just show up on the day of the shoot and yell action and cut.
I disagree. I thought the character acting was very compelling especially given the content and his direction of the actors amazing. Some of the edits and pacing in the final film left a lot to be desired, but there was a lot of stuff to get through.
I agree the pacing after Shelob is horrible, and unless you've read the books you wonder what happened to all the orcs killing each other. It's only hinted at then they're all dead. WFT?
EE will obviously be better with extra material in there.
Do you even know what Troll is. It obviously wasn't Troll, geeze!
Modded as troll, you have my sympathy. Moderation around here has gone to hell lately. There's endless crud modded as funny and insightful yet any thoughtful post not fitting with someone's canned views they've dutifully been indoctrinated with by Barney the purple dinosaur is modded as troll or flamebait.
No, there is no pressing need to see SCO's codebase. Knowing what parts of Linux are disputed would be enough to trace where it came from using CVS logs and other archives. That's more than enough to be getting on with for now.
What nonsense. This cannot result from a small hole in the ozone layer. Sunburn maybe, but even then this whole thing is based on numerous ludicrous pretexts. Sci-fi is at it's best when the "Sci" part is plausible.
Well can we at least see the code in the Linux tree that they claim infringes even if we don't see their tree?
Nobody is asking to see SCO's code, just point at the code everyone already has in Linux and say what parts are claimed to infringe.
There is absolutely no excuse for not making at least this portion fo the evidence available.
Well if you want to know, it's the Gandalf confrontation with Sauroman at Isenguard followed by Wormtongue killing Sauroman (at Isenguard). Apparently it's a 7 more minutes scene.
Yes it is representative of the scouring, Jackson says so in his commentary on the extended edition. He also says it is not going to be in the third movie, so this has been known for over a year now.
He did film some of it, that's what Frodo sees in Galadriel's mirror in the first film (although Sam is in it :-/). It's kinda difficult to claim the scouring of the shire was never filmed when it's actually there on screen. Jackson discusses this in the commentary on the EE 4 disc set of the first movie. You are right that it won't be in the third film and Jackson never planned it to be.
In the movies Sauroman was intended to be killed at Isenguard and probably will in the extended edition. So he can't go scour the shire.
No I don't, I train my filter and it works it captures MOST of the spam, but still more than half the **remaining** emails are spam.
Excellent!
99% of my email is spam. Instead of taking a couple of seconds to get email over broadband I have to contact spam list servers etc and risk false positives from Bayesian filters and blocked addresses, it takes minutes and STILL >50% of the email that gets through is spam. So please don't give me your pap about how innocent spam is. SPAM is pure abuse, and should be criminalized
People who call you are obliged to remove you from their lists of callers and have a valit and traceable return number. SPAM has no such thing, most of it has forged headers and is sent from hijacked machines. To unsubscribe is to invite more spam.
Your analogy is specious and frankly you don't know what the heck you're talking about.
Could this fraudulent DoS claim be an attempt to build a case for delaying discovery?