The Dice that owns slashdot was originally a job listings site. The C compiler called Dice (http://www.binarydevotion.com/?p=76) was written by Matt Dillon, who now works on DragonflyBSD. No relation.
It may be worse than I thought. Our last few stories seem suspicious. I think perhaps slashdot has been at least partially compromised. Hopefully the new management notices soon.......
*waits impatiently*
This is a perfect use case for AltME, which is set up specifically for running your own private, secure server, that logs all messages. It is very easy to install, set up and to maintain (I've been running servers with no problems for a few years now).
I have mod points right now but your post was so misguided that I feel obligated to post here instead of using them...
He goes so far in the article to try to confuse the meaning of 'free' versus 'open', implying they are essentially the same thing. They aren't, and never will be.
The only person confusing 'free' and 'open' here is you. TFA contains only a single occurrence of the word 'open' and then only in relation to standards, not software. RMS has never been a proponent of 'open source' software per se, and takes every opportunity he gets to distinguish the difference between the OSS movement and the free software movement.
Now that OSS has become even slightly accepted his usefulness as a supporter of OSS is diminished, so he's taking it to the next level and trying to say all non-free software is bad. Read that carefully, 'non-free'. Not open. In this article he in a round about way attacks 'open' standards that are not 'free' by his definition.
He was never a supporter of OSS, he is a supporter of "free software". Nor is he now "taking it to the next level"; he has been at that same level for longer than many of the people reading this have been alive. He has always said that all non-free software is a bad thing. His goals have been clearly stated since the original announcement of the GNU project in 1983. The only reason the attacks on standards that are 'open' but not 'free' are roundabout in this article is that it is a minor side issue to his main point about web applications; if he were writing about standards I expect he would be quite direct on his opposition to any standard that is 'non-free'.
All of that having been said, I do not personally agree with RMS about the inherent wrongness of using or working on 'non-free' software. In fact I have made my living working on a commercial web application for the last several years. Despite this, I fully support his idea of making it easy to know how the software you run is licensed (even in the browser) and giving users the choice of whether or not to allow software licensed in a way they do not appove of to be run on their machines. With regard to the idea of allowing modified Javascript code to be used, I like the idea in principle, but having worked on a large web app and having had to debug issues caused by cached obsolete Javascript, I have concerns about the practicality of ever using such a feature.
Finally, I think you are a jerk and a troll. Comparing RMS to the Church of Scientology? Really? Get a life.
I agree that this is a great idea, and with your criticism of the implementation. I would like to see this as a website, compatible with the existing tool, funded by Google, and written by someone other than me (although I am willing to help).
It could be sort of like MySpace for science;-)
The deepening of your voice due to testosterone is irreversible, so when going through a sex-change your voice doesn't change. Most of us just practice changing our voices the same way you would if you were faking it.
Good question. I would love to see everyone standardize on S-expressions instead. The only real advantage that I know of that XML has is namespaces, and that could be fixed with a single short RFC describing a standard structure on top of S-expressions instead.
Now that I think about it, I think maybe I'll set up a website after work tonight to promote this idea...
My grandmother had an old diesel Mercedes... It was the worst car she ever owned; broke down all the time. Only someone who doesn't know better would drive an old diesel Mercedes.
I actually used to do that a lot. At the time I used Lynx most of the time, but when I wanted to view a site that used frames (which Lynx didn't support), I'd just telnet to port 80, type in the request and read the HTML it sent back.
I still check my POP3 email accounts that way when I'm away from home...
Slashdot Mirror
The Dice that owns slashdot was originally a job listings site. The C compiler called Dice (http://www.binarydevotion.com/?p=76) was written by Matt Dillon, who now works on DragonflyBSD. No relation.
We should, but I don't think anyone has it well organized so far. This book is a good start though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Things_Work
I really dislike the fact that we can't undo an unintentional mod here =-(
No, I think fetlife already has that covered...
I've been wondering that since the 90s... SMS is a crude hack that was past due for replacement before most people ever heard of it.
It may be worse than I thought. Our last few stories seem suspicious. I think perhaps slashdot has been at least partially compromised. Hopefully the new management notices soon....... *waits impatiently*
I read /. uncensored for the trolls and such. Usually there's some larfs
Perhaps, not today.
Same here. This may be the lamest troll thread I've ever seen on /.
Ivory. If you can make convincing fake ivory and sell it you might save elephants.
This is a perfect use case for AltME, which is set up specifically for running your own private, secure server, that logs all messages. It is very easy to install, set up and to maintain (I've been running servers with no problems for a few years now).
I have mod points right now but your post was so misguided that I feel obligated to post here instead of using them...
He goes so far in the article to try to confuse the meaning of 'free' versus 'open', implying they are essentially the same thing. They aren't, and never will be.
The only person confusing 'free' and 'open' here is you. TFA contains only a single occurrence of the word 'open' and then only in relation to standards, not software. RMS has never been a proponent of 'open source' software per se, and takes every opportunity he gets to distinguish the difference between the OSS movement and the free software movement.
Now that OSS has become even slightly accepted his usefulness as a supporter of OSS is diminished, so he's taking it to the next level and trying to say all non-free software is bad. Read that carefully, 'non-free'. Not open. In this article he in a round about way attacks 'open' standards that are not 'free' by his definition.
He was never a supporter of OSS, he is a supporter of "free software". Nor is he now "taking it to the next level"; he has been at that same level for longer than many of the people reading this have been alive. He has always said that all non-free software is a bad thing. His goals have been clearly stated since the original announcement of the GNU project in 1983. The only reason the attacks on standards that are 'open' but not 'free' are roundabout in this article is that it is a minor side issue to his main point about web applications; if he were writing about standards I expect he would be quite direct on his opposition to any standard that is 'non-free'.
If anyone is the unclear on what the difference between 'free' and 'open' is in this context, I suggest reading 'Why âoeOpen Sourceâ misses the point of Free Software'.
All of that having been said, I do not personally agree with RMS about the inherent wrongness of using or working on 'non-free' software. In fact I have made my living working on a commercial web application for the last several years. Despite this, I fully support his idea of making it easy to know how the software you run is licensed (even in the browser) and giving users the choice of whether or not to allow software licensed in a way they do not appove of to be run on their machines. With regard to the idea of allowing modified Javascript code to be used, I like the idea in principle, but having worked on a large web app and having had to debug issues caused by cached obsolete Javascript, I have concerns about the practicality of ever using such a feature.
Finally, I think you are a jerk and a troll. Comparing RMS to the Church of Scientology? Really? Get a life.
I agree that this is a great idea, and with your criticism of the implementation. I would like to see this as a website, compatible with the existing tool, funded by Google, and written by someone other than me (although I am willing to help). It could be sort of like MySpace for science ;-)
The deepening of your voice due to testosterone is irreversible, so when going through a sex-change your voice doesn't change. Most of us just practice changing our voices the same way you would if you were faking it.
Very, very old idea. The first worm of this type was called "Reaper" and was created to kill the "Creeper" worm. http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encyclopedia?chapter=153310937
Good question. I would love to see everyone standardize on S-expressions instead. The only real advantage that I know of that XML has is namespaces, and that could be fixed with a single short RFC describing a standard structure on top of S-expressions instead.
Now that I think about it, I think maybe I'll set up a website after work tonight to promote this idea...
My grandmother had an old diesel Mercedes... It was the worst car she ever owned; broke down all the time. Only someone who doesn't know better would drive an old diesel Mercedes.
This is the funniest link I've seen on slashdot in a quite a while, thanks!
3) Customers want a button they can click to win the game. Should Blizzard provide it?
yes
I actually used to do that a lot. At the time I used Lynx most of the time, but when I wanted to view a site that used frames (which Lynx didn't support), I'd just telnet to port 80, type in the request and read the HTML it sent back.
I still check my POP3 email accounts that way when I'm away from home...
It's currently in alpha and available by invite only, but QTask is by far the best I've ever used.
Odd, I got my name on the first try...
Actually, the commercial software business was first started by CSC (Computer Sciences Corporation), who produced software for mainframes.