Easy. Western intervention made the very things the West claims to stand for seem unpalatable to those being intervened against. It's not accurate, but it's hardly a mystery that it happens. The west claims to love freedom and democracy, yet all many Muslims have seen of the West is occupying armies, toppling of democratic governments, massive aid to countries which certainly act like they don't deserve it, etc. etc. etc. No wonder many people turn their backs on the good things the west has to offer, if their introduction is so fucked up.
We can see that before the west started heavily fucking up places, those offensive acts you rightly point out were in the decline, and indeed were eradicated from massive swathes of the Muslim world. But then the west started fucking with people, and the ideas of Mullahs, Islamic doctrine, and independence became confused, leading to massive abuses.
Yes, this is clearly just my opinion, but if we swapped Christianity and Islam overnight, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw the exact same thing happening, but the "bad guys" were wearing different hats and saying different prayers. A people who perceive themselves to be threatened will turn to whatever gives them hope, and immerse themselves in it. For folks who are religious, their last hope will be religion.
Oh for fuck's sake. You are blinded by your hatred.
You are conflating radical, extremist Islam with all of Islam. The two are not the same. Just as Christianity has a shit-tonne of laws in its holy books that call for all sorts of nut-case hatred, so does Islam. The difference is that Christianity has a very solid grip on the world, and most predominately-Christian countries have not been fucked with, repeatedly, for decades, meaning there is not a false assumption that there is a war against them.
So no, I'm not talking appeasement with radical/extremist Islam, just to take a look at the grievances listed by one single group - Al Qaeda - and seeing how they stack up against reality. That's not appeasement - that's learning.
You assume Christianity and Islam's supporters are equal across the world. Clearly they are not. If only you could open your eyes one iota more to see that, you'd be able to have a slight understanding of what you're talking about. But you won't, as it's all to easy to just sink into a well of hatred, get your hubris all Astroglided up, and refuse to learn anything about your world which might make you feel a bit uncomfortable, such as the incessant wars and conflicts that have been waged in your name, against countries that are predominantly Muslim, the effects of which are still being felt to this day.
I've already highlighted how learning is not appeasement, but you seem to willingly want to ignore that - a great hallmark of ignorance if ever I've seen one.
Wasn't the original idea that the constitution would be rewritten every generation? It's not as if massive amounts of changes haven't already been made to it.
So justice is an idea you disagree with, I take it. That's what you're preaching. You seem to imagine the western world is somehow immune from being wrong. Western infallibility? Is that it?
I'm not talking appeasement. I never once mentioned it. I'm talking figuring out exactly what's being claimed by both sides. Surely you're in favour of actually learning, rather than just assuming? If we don't take that first step, how do you expect anyone, on either side, to be able to have constructive dialogue? You don't even know what's being argued, and you don't seem to even care. You have assumed that Islam is bad, and needs to be eradicated, hopefully based on a bullshit education of Islam and a disgusting dose of hubris, rather than the only other alternative, which for the sake of brevity I will describe below:
Your staggering misrepresentation of Islam, most likely due to your ridiculous ignorance of Islam (either that or you're some sort of hate-filled bigoted cunt), doesn't help your argument. Anyone with a passing knowledge of Islam and world politics can see your points are full of shit. If people with your ridiculously naive understanding of Islam are defining the policy on this subject, no wonder the western world is treating Islamic extremism this way.
But if you at least admit that they have grievances, they can be addressed and shown to be either legitimate or not. That's what happened in Northern Ireland, and it's working.
You seemed to have missed the point entirely. You can eradicate a group of people holding an idea, but the idea will still persist - especially if said idea (in this case the fucking of Muslims by the west) is clearly demonstrably after said group is eradicated. If you killed all the terrorists in the world in a heart-beat, tomorrow there would be more, as the grievances the original terrorists had would still not be addressed.
Hardly. You seem to be making the same mistakes as a whole bunch of important people - the problem isn't Islam, or even the teachings of Mullahs, but of the persecution of Islam perceived by Muslims. It's not hard to figure out why so many perceive such issues, what with the support of Israel, wars on Muslim soil, the foreign military bases across Muslim holy land, and so on. Just read the Al Qaeda manifesto, and you'll see what they're on about. Pretending they don't have legitimate grievances and just labelling them "whackos" is never going to solve the actual problems. Hatred is taught in some mosques, as there is legitimate reason for many Muslims to really, really, really not appreciate all that the western world has done "for" them. Unfortunately for the US, the western world's doctrine of simply not owning up to selfish behaviour encourages dislike to turn to hatred as each generation passes.
There will be no peace until people are stopped being fucked with. It doesn't matter what religion said people hold (be it Islam in the middle east, or Catholicism in Northern Ireland), as long as they perceive themselves as being brutally fucked, they will act that way. Peace in Northern Ireland wasn't attained by wiping out Catholicism, but by simply talking to those with grievances, realising that everyone's shit stinks to various degrees, highlighting actual grievances, and also highlighting bullshit grievances that are simply not true. Refusing to even admit the possibility of being wrong is clearly not going to help that.
I don't think he does make it sound like that. Using an ORM means that you essentially have a common API for interacting with databases of any variety. Change the database, and you get to keep the vaaaast majority of your code, if not all of it.
So basically you don't have evidence, you just have your opinion of what's normal and what isn't, all of which is based on your own personal experience and nothing more.
Planes change course for many different reasons. Engine difficulty, being re-routed, problems on board, weather patterns changing, or even military action, just to name a few. You have to show how none of those was responsible for the change in course of the plane that caused that contrail, before you can start attributing weird and exotic explanations for an otherwise mundane phenomenon.
Trails can linger for hours/days, and spread vast distances, simply due to the nature of what a contrail is. Heck, it's even covered in the article.
So, to sum up:
You don't know about planes or contrails, so therefore they must be some massive, ridiculously complicated and even more ridiculously pointless conspiracy that there is no evidence of.
No, it's basic fucking physics that causes lasting contrails. Basic. Fucking. Physics. Using high-altitude jets to disperse chemicals over populations is about the worst way you can do it - anything jettisoned from the plane would land thousands of miles away from where the plane was, and in an entirely unpredictable direction. The whole "idea" of chemtrails is born from abject ignorance coupled with paranoid hubris. It's despicable.
Yes, aircraft changing course is totally normal. Heck, large circles are even perfectly normal. Can you provide evidence as to how they are not normal? That's how critical thinking works. Apparently you don't understand that, which is why you believe this bullshit.
Chemtrails = bullshit. Abject, horrific bullshit, spread by idiots who don't have a fucking clue about meteorology, basic physics, and more importantly that a few documents mentioning cloud seeding do not instantly mean that even one single witnessed contrail is anything other than a contrail. Critical thinking - it works, bitches.
Turboprop engines are used all over the world, in very large numbers. The US military alone has over 2,421 active aircraft with propellers (not including helicopters, before you ask).
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Easy. Western intervention made the very things the West claims to stand for seem unpalatable to those being intervened against. It's not accurate, but it's hardly a mystery that it happens. The west claims to love freedom and democracy, yet all many Muslims have seen of the West is occupying armies, toppling of democratic governments, massive aid to countries which certainly act like they don't deserve it, etc. etc. etc. No wonder many people turn their backs on the good things the west has to offer, if their introduction is so fucked up.
We can see that before the west started heavily fucking up places, those offensive acts you rightly point out were in the decline, and indeed were eradicated from massive swathes of the Muslim world. But then the west started fucking with people, and the ideas of Mullahs, Islamic doctrine, and independence became confused, leading to massive abuses.
Yes, this is clearly just my opinion, but if we swapped Christianity and Islam overnight, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw the exact same thing happening, but the "bad guys" were wearing different hats and saying different prayers. A people who perceive themselves to be threatened will turn to whatever gives them hope, and immerse themselves in it. For folks who are religious, their last hope will be religion.
Oh for fuck's sake. You are blinded by your hatred.
You are conflating radical, extremist Islam with all of Islam. The two are not the same. Just as Christianity has a shit-tonne of laws in its holy books that call for all sorts of nut-case hatred, so does Islam. The difference is that Christianity has a very solid grip on the world, and most predominately-Christian countries have not been fucked with, repeatedly, for decades, meaning there is not a false assumption that there is a war against them.
So no, I'm not talking appeasement with radical/extremist Islam, just to take a look at the grievances listed by one single group - Al Qaeda - and seeing how they stack up against reality. That's not appeasement - that's learning.
You assume Christianity and Islam's supporters are equal across the world. Clearly they are not. If only you could open your eyes one iota more to see that, you'd be able to have a slight understanding of what you're talking about. But you won't, as it's all to easy to just sink into a well of hatred, get your hubris all Astroglided up, and refuse to learn anything about your world which might make you feel a bit uncomfortable, such as the incessant wars and conflicts that have been waged in your name, against countries that are predominantly Muslim, the effects of which are still being felt to this day.
I've already highlighted how learning is not appeasement, but you seem to willingly want to ignore that - a great hallmark of ignorance if ever I've seen one.
Wasn't the original idea that the constitution would be rewritten every generation? It's not as if massive amounts of changes haven't already been made to it.
I miss the 1990s.
So justice is an idea you disagree with, I take it. That's what you're preaching. You seem to imagine the western world is somehow immune from being wrong. Western infallibility? Is that it?
I'm not talking appeasement. I never once mentioned it. I'm talking figuring out exactly what's being claimed by both sides. Surely you're in favour of actually learning, rather than just assuming? If we don't take that first step, how do you expect anyone, on either side, to be able to have constructive dialogue? You don't even know what's being argued, and you don't seem to even care. You have assumed that Islam is bad, and needs to be eradicated, hopefully based on a bullshit education of Islam and a disgusting dose of hubris, rather than the only other alternative, which for the sake of brevity I will describe below:
Your staggering misrepresentation of Islam, most likely due to your ridiculous ignorance of Islam (either that or you're some sort of hate-filled bigoted cunt), doesn't help your argument. Anyone with a passing knowledge of Islam and world politics can see your points are full of shit. If people with your ridiculously naive understanding of Islam are defining the policy on this subject, no wonder the western world is treating Islamic extremism this way.
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But if you at least admit that they have grievances, they can be addressed and shown to be either legitimate or not. That's what happened in Northern Ireland, and it's working.
Idiot. At least wait for the new governments to find their footing before claiming with 100% certainty what that footing will be.
You seemed to have missed the point entirely. You can eradicate a group of people holding an idea, but the idea will still persist - especially if said idea (in this case the fucking of Muslims by the west) is clearly demonstrably after said group is eradicated. If you killed all the terrorists in the world in a heart-beat, tomorrow there would be more, as the grievances the original terrorists had would still not be addressed.
Hardly. You seem to be making the same mistakes as a whole bunch of important people - the problem isn't Islam, or even the teachings of Mullahs, but of the persecution of Islam perceived by Muslims. It's not hard to figure out why so many perceive such issues, what with the support of Israel, wars on Muslim soil, the foreign military bases across Muslim holy land, and so on. Just read the Al Qaeda manifesto, and you'll see what they're on about. Pretending they don't have legitimate grievances and just labelling them "whackos" is never going to solve the actual problems. Hatred is taught in some mosques, as there is legitimate reason for many Muslims to really, really, really not appreciate all that the western world has done "for" them. Unfortunately for the US, the western world's doctrine of simply not owning up to selfish behaviour encourages dislike to turn to hatred as each generation passes.
There will be no peace until people are stopped being fucked with. It doesn't matter what religion said people hold (be it Islam in the middle east, or Catholicism in Northern Ireland), as long as they perceive themselves as being brutally fucked, they will act that way. Peace in Northern Ireland wasn't attained by wiping out Catholicism, but by simply talking to those with grievances, realising that everyone's shit stinks to various degrees, highlighting actual grievances, and also highlighting bullshit grievances that are simply not true. Refusing to even admit the possibility of being wrong is clearly not going to help that.
I don't think he does make it sound like that. Using an ORM means that you essentially have a common API for interacting with databases of any variety. Change the database, and you get to keep the vaaaast majority of your code, if not all of it.
It does matter. If you knew what Ofcom was, you'd not say such a ridiculous thing.
But since it didn't happen for 400 years before the one 20 years ago, it does seem rather indicative of "change".
You just described most places in the western world. Congratulations.
Thanks for proving my point. You clearly don't understand how contrails are formed. You are ignorant, but you somehow can't see it. You fucking idiot.
So basically you don't have evidence, you just have your opinion of what's normal and what isn't, all of which is based on your own personal experience and nothing more.
Planes change course for many different reasons. Engine difficulty, being re-routed, problems on board, weather patterns changing, or even military action, just to name a few. You have to show how none of those was responsible for the change in course of the plane that caused that contrail, before you can start attributing weird and exotic explanations for an otherwise mundane phenomenon.
Trails can linger for hours/days, and spread vast distances, simply due to the nature of what a contrail is. Heck, it's even covered in the article.
So, to sum up:
You don't know about planes or contrails, so therefore they must be some massive, ridiculously complicated and even more ridiculously pointless conspiracy that there is no evidence of.
Idiot.
Well, technically that's a phony record of bitcoins, not phony bitcoins themselves.
No, it's basic fucking physics that causes lasting contrails. Basic. Fucking. Physics. Using high-altitude jets to disperse chemicals over populations is about the worst way you can do it - anything jettisoned from the plane would land thousands of miles away from where the plane was, and in an entirely unpredictable direction. The whole "idea" of chemtrails is born from abject ignorance coupled with paranoid hubris. It's despicable.
Delusional? Then please explain the swastikas that are perfectly visible over here in Germany, without people getting arrested.
Yes, aircraft changing course is totally normal. Heck, large circles are even perfectly normal. Can you provide evidence as to how they are not normal? That's how critical thinking works. Apparently you don't understand that, which is why you believe this bullshit.
Nice try. Swastikas are not banned in Germany.
What are you talking about? You claimed propellers are nearly extinct, but clearly they are not.
Yes - in *plenty*. It amazes me that people don't know that. There are a shit-tonne of turboprop aircraft the world over, including the US.
Chemtrails = bullshit. Abject, horrific bullshit, spread by idiots who don't have a fucking clue about meteorology, basic physics, and more importantly that a few documents mentioning cloud seeding do not instantly mean that even one single witnessed contrail is anything other than a contrail. Critical thinking - it works, bitches.
Turboprop engines are used all over the world, in very large numbers. The US military alone has over 2,421 active aircraft with propellers (not including helicopters, before you ask).
Ever heard of a Turboprop engine? They're extremely common.