Someone above mentioned Bandcamp.com; check them out, as they sell in lossless formats w/ archiveable media. You get your choice of formats. A few labels (Merge/Beggars, perhaps, I know Warp does/used-to?) also sell online in real files and lossless compression, at your option. Some cost no more than the mp3 version.
Wouldn't you expect darker skin color--at least on faces--in areas with strong reflected light? Living on permanent ice and snow cover is like living on a mirror. I've been sunburned (no, not just windburned) skiing before.
It seems to me much more likely that the stimulant properties of caffiene probably bring to coffee drinkers more waking hours as well as nervous muscle twitching/etc... and that it's the extra labor of the body which discourages horrendous liver damage... Hasn't good exercise already been shown to decrease the effects of this (and most other) disease?
There's a sort of experimental terminal in e17 cvs called enterminus which seems to be lightweight and EFL-goodness... however, it's quite buggy, lacks features, and hasn't been updated for a while, I don't think... but maybe something is on the way... besides, what more do you need to get from your terminal that eterm doesn't give you? damn, all those fun porthole/fake-trans/font-shadows/etc features outnumber any fanatasies I have about terminals... of course there's tabbed terms (which sort of works with etwin support)... eh.
Sure, gnome is a lot like windows... but if the contest was between which DE (gnome or KDE) looked more like which commercial WM, it's pretty obvious that gnome resembles OSX more than KDE resembles OSX and that KDE resembles windows more than gnome resembles Windows...
This is why it's easy to compare the two as people do...Perhaps the ways in which gnome is more like osx and kde is more like windows are few, but they are also quite obvious, methinks:
- gnome...er metacity or whatever has a bar at the top; windows has never done so standard, neither has KDE (to my knowledge)... but OSX has and gnome has.
- gnome presents fewer options that "clutter" the screen, like OSX. Look at the doc in osx, it's pretty simple. Look at the menus in gnome, pretty simple. KDE presents every option on the face of the earth in some distributions... windows can be awfully cluttery, too.... ESPECIALLY on a new install loaded with dell/hp/gateway/whatever-company bullshit applications. Macs simply don't come loaded with all that crap visible, and Gnome keeps it to a minimum.
There are other similarities, too, but these are the most obvious and therefore the most important... once you get much further than this, you start nit-picking into things people don't even notice.
The closest thing to an official e17 file manager, evidence (http://evidence.sf.net/ inherited the typebuffer and it's quite helpful. you just hit ESC to open it up and start doing your thing... there are other options/capabilities for it, but you can check the man pages for that info. Evidence is an awesome, if somewhat buggy, file manager (I've had problems with mime types and stability issues with the default theme)...but it's also pretty groundbreaking...or at least it was when first released. I'd recommend it, and I hope to see a version someday that swaps out the GTK code for more nice EFL stuff!
a good percentage of the heavy project contributors are 64-bit users, so they're pretty good about bottling up 64 bit problems, methinks. You might wanna check with an updated build (bugs, of course, always float through live cvs versions) or perhaps pick up a recent asparagus/micro-release.
I doubt it. If you've looked at what they're doing, there's an excellent base of graphics and graphics manipulation libraries (the EFL) and a few smart function and themeing libraries (also part of the EFL) that wrap everything together, but e17 doesn't actually come bundled with any non-necessary apps... Sure there's the EFL-based file manager Evidence, which is great, but it doesn't "ship" with enlightenment, and I don't even think all the devs use it. There are also image viewers (entice), audio players (eclair, euphoria), and a hell of a lot more, but they're all just EFL apps akin to the peripheral QT apps that don't actually ship with KDE.
Ultimately, the core libs are what links everything together, and there are different apps built off of those. True, EFL apps go quite well together (because they use the same libs and themes), but ultimately, everything's still separate... even all of the "modules" for the desktop aren't loaded by default. The e-team has done an amazing job at cutting out bloat while pushing beaty (or, if you don't like their themes, at least opening the doorway to it).
I should also mention that wavpack support on linux is thusfar limited to only a few small, experimental media players as far as I know... namely xmms2 (support is currently broken) and lamip (takes a bit of work to install, and it doesn't install properly for me yet)...so perhaps it's not the greatest solution if you're a linux dude...at least not yet.
While I haven't had too much experience with the format yet, wavepack might suit you dandy. (http://www.wavpack.com/). It's open, transcodable, and better yet, essentially has it's own immediate-conversion to the lossy-wavepack format (Because it's made up of two parts, a lossy "file" and a correction "file", and you can just splice off the lossy version, as far as I understand it).
it's much easier than that... they check to see if the referrer site is a male-gay porn site, a female-featured porn site, a lesbian porn site, or a male-featuring porn site meant for women...If it was any of those, the visitor is male; if not, it was a female.
it's pretty logical, really.... enlightenment has always been one of those not-officially-final sorts of applications that never dips above the version 0.x stages; e users have come to accept by now that e-0.15 will be followed by e-0.16 and e-0.17 in succession. It's kind of like gaim used to be up until about.66 or something where they decided to change it to 1.0.
Anyway, the 999 was to symbolize the approach to e17, and it works well with things like portage's method of versioning as well, i think...but, the earlier versions of releases were also labeled with a _pre* suffix. This suffix got in the way, so recently the team dropped it and replaced it with the *.001, giving them plenty of room (999 releases) before they have to call it e17. All this, of course, barring a rewrite.
after using e17 since the day it hit cvs (for probably the past month, it's been the default wm on my desktop machine and the *only* wm on my laptop), I've found it surprisingly beautiful and impressively stable (for cvs). There's a lot of magic coming up to e. It's also true that you have to use it to really understand what I mean about the beauty. Try some of the new apps built off the EFL (there's a file manager, image viewer, rss feeder, etc, etc), but cvs is very active, and I can't wait to see this wm armed and fully operational.
gentoo is only bloated if you make it bloated. if you set your USE flags conservatively, you'll install nothing but the absolute minimum required to run a system...hell, it wont even install cron unless you do it yourself.
""it'll be interesting to see which of the two.. x.org or enlightenment have the better performance.""
I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is "e". If i recall correctly, there was an irc discussion posted on xcomputerman's site that showed a few stats...EFL murdered xorg. I wish i could get back at the site to doublecheck the results, but it's been slashdotted.
way over ornamented? -- try a new theme.
Wasteful of desktop real estate -- that's about the last charge I'd consider e guilty of. I'm a desktop real-estate nutcase, which is why i cannot stand using gnome, kde, or windows.
distracting -- again, try a new theme. Take a look at the e16 default theme "winter" and tell me that it's distracting...hardly. My current e16 theme is nothing more than small text on thin black backrgounds with white text... it looks almost like a fluxbox interface (if it weren't for my pagers and engage).
non-user-centric -- I don't know what you mean by this, but it's exactly what I want in a window manager...which to me seems mighty user-centric.
since you've brought it up, and we're talking about e17 cvs, I might as well mention that the misc/ cvs of e contains a OSX-docker application that functions almost exactly like the OSX dock (though this form and function can change drastically if you change themes and settings.). anyway, it requires e17's EFL, and it's called engage. I've been using it for a few months now... it's effective and stable for me.
enlightenment runs faster on my both of my x86 machines than xfce4...hell, it's almost as quick as fluxbox, depending on settings. I think i remember seeing some comparisons done on the gentoo forums where a lot of users actually had it running quicker than fluxbox.
These screenshots, if you could see them, do not represent e17 in its current form last I checked (a day or two ago). They reflect, at best, legacy e17. The new e17 does not in any way resemble those teaser e17 screenshots we were seeing 2+ years ago or so. There are quite a few enthusiasts out there hosting videos and pictures, but out of respect for them and their home servers, I'll not link to any of their sites. Those who are desperate enough to seek out the real thing will hopefully find images and sources without bogging down those who've donated their bandwidth.
Anyway, the real treat in e17 isn't what is apparent in the wm cvs... as the team has emphasized time and again, the beauty right now is in the EFL (the enlightenment foundation LIBRARIES) and the beautiful potential they hold for applications, including the upcoming desktop environment. e17 is pretty (i have it "running" on my gentoo box), but completely impractical for use now...the current e17-based apps are also beautiful and impressively useful and stable for me (including elicit, entice, engage, entrance, evidence, and a host of other great apps!). It's exciting to see the beginnings of e17 in cvs, indeed, but I expect a lot of changes and a good deal of time before the next e17 even makes it to beta-level.
OOo has always been swift and speedy for me...okay, the 1.0 release (as with the StarOffice versions put out by stardivision) were bulky and slow, but as early as 1.0.3, speed was delicious for me. Perhaps I am an unusual case.
I have only used the 1.* branch OOo on gentoo (though I used staroffice on windows 95) with relatively speedy compile options, but I don't think OOo uses those (if i recall correctly, it gives me a "open office is a delicate build, so I'm ignoring your flags" message whenever i upgrade. I do prelink on my P4 machine (not on my laptop), but prelinking has not improved startup speed by more than 2 or 3 seconds maximum.
Also, I have tested out the 2.0 test builds, starting with build 48, on winXP machines with RAM as low as 256, and it has been just as responsive.
no, it is trademarkable... the problem is that someone else already owns the trademark (though i don't recall who...). See the FAQ:
http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#10
What's with all the talk about OOo being so damned slow? I find it incredibly responsive on my machines. The machine I'm using now (Gentoo on P4@700MHz + 512MB RAM) takes less than 3-4 seconds to load up (ximianized) OOo 1.1.3! My laptop (Gentoo on PIII@400MHz + 256MB) still only takes 10-15 seconds to load OOo entirely (non-ximianized, OOo 1.1.3, i think).
Give them a break, it's a damned good application and it runs almost as smoothly as Abiword for me.
I keep all of my file-data on a separate partition (lets just say/dev/hda6) which I mount on/home/jackson/data. Then, i fill the data category with every type of file I use, and a few special folders for certain functions, like these:./audio/music./audio/sfx./audio/spoken./video/film./video/flash./video/clips./text/notes./text/assignments./text/poetry./img/web./img/design./img/portfolio./dev/(project name)./temp/download./temp/burn./temp/audacity
and similar. Then, I just place symbolic links for the ones that I use the most ~/data/music and ~/img/design for example, in $HOME. The method is a hybrid of the logical order of organized subfoldering system, and easy accessability/practicality.
Slashdot Mirror
Someone above mentioned Bandcamp.com; check them out, as they sell in lossless formats w/ archiveable media. You get your choice of formats. A few labels (Merge/Beggars, perhaps, I know Warp does/used-to?) also sell online in real files and lossless compression, at your option. Some cost no more than the mp3 version.
Wouldn't you expect darker skin color--at least on faces--in areas with strong reflected light? Living on permanent ice and snow cover is like living on a mirror. I've been sunburned (no, not just windburned) skiing before.
It seems to me much more likely that the stimulant properties of caffiene probably bring to coffee drinkers more waking hours as well as nervous muscle twitching/etc... and that it's the extra labor of the body which discourages horrendous liver damage... Hasn't good exercise already been shown to decrease the effects of this (and most other) disease?
There's a sort of experimental terminal in e17 cvs called enterminus which seems to be lightweight and EFL-goodness... however, it's quite buggy, lacks features, and hasn't been updated for a while, I don't think... but maybe something is on the way... besides, what more do you need to get from your terminal that eterm doesn't give you? damn, all those fun porthole/fake-trans/font-shadows/etc features outnumber any fanatasies I have about terminals... of course there's tabbed terms (which sort of works with etwin support)... eh.
Sure, gnome is a lot like windows... but if the contest was between which DE (gnome or KDE) looked more like which commercial WM, it's pretty obvious that gnome resembles OSX more than KDE resembles OSX and that KDE resembles windows more than gnome resembles Windows... This is why it's easy to compare the two as people do...Perhaps the ways in which gnome is more like osx and kde is more like windows are few, but they are also quite obvious, methinks: - gnome...er metacity or whatever has a bar at the top; windows has never done so standard, neither has KDE (to my knowledge)... but OSX has and gnome has. - gnome presents fewer options that "clutter" the screen, like OSX. Look at the doc in osx, it's pretty simple. Look at the menus in gnome, pretty simple. KDE presents every option on the face of the earth in some distributions... windows can be awfully cluttery, too.... ESPECIALLY on a new install loaded with dell/hp/gateway/whatever-company bullshit applications. Macs simply don't come loaded with all that crap visible, and Gnome keeps it to a minimum. There are other similarities, too, but these are the most obvious and therefore the most important... once you get much further than this, you start nit-picking into things people don't even notice.
The closest thing to an official e17 file manager, evidence (http://evidence.sf.net/ inherited the typebuffer and it's quite helpful. you just hit ESC to open it up and start doing your thing... there are other options/capabilities for it, but you can check the man pages for that info. Evidence is an awesome, if somewhat buggy, file manager (I've had problems with mime types and stability issues with the default theme)...but it's also pretty groundbreaking...or at least it was when first released. I'd recommend it, and I hope to see a version someday that swaps out the GTK code for more nice EFL stuff!
a good percentage of the heavy project contributors are 64-bit users, so they're pretty good about bottling up 64 bit problems, methinks. You might wanna check with an updated build (bugs, of course, always float through live cvs versions) or perhaps pick up a recent asparagus/micro-release.
I doubt it. If you've looked at what they're doing, there's an excellent base of graphics and graphics manipulation libraries (the EFL) and a few smart function and themeing libraries (also part of the EFL) that wrap everything together, but e17 doesn't actually come bundled with any non-necessary apps... Sure there's the EFL-based file manager Evidence, which is great, but it doesn't "ship" with enlightenment, and I don't even think all the devs use it. There are also image viewers (entice), audio players (eclair, euphoria), and a hell of a lot more, but they're all just EFL apps akin to the peripheral QT apps that don't actually ship with KDE. Ultimately, the core libs are what links everything together, and there are different apps built off of those. True, EFL apps go quite well together (because they use the same libs and themes), but ultimately, everything's still separate... even all of the "modules" for the desktop aren't loaded by default. The e-team has done an amazing job at cutting out bloat while pushing beaty (or, if you don't like their themes, at least opening the doorway to it).
with only 24 MB ram, I pray it doesn't even attempt to load flash plugins.
I should also mention that wavpack support on linux is thusfar limited to only a few small, experimental media players as far as I know... namely xmms2 (support is currently broken) and lamip (takes a bit of work to install, and it doesn't install properly for me yet)...so perhaps it's not the greatest solution if you're a linux dude...at least not yet.
While I haven't had too much experience with the format yet, wavepack might suit you dandy. (http://www.wavpack.com/). It's open, transcodable, and better yet, essentially has it's own immediate-conversion to the lossy-wavepack format (Because it's made up of two parts, a lossy "file" and a correction "file", and you can just splice off the lossy version, as far as I understand it).
it's much easier than that... they check to see if the referrer site is a male-gay porn site, a female-featured porn site, a lesbian porn site, or a male-featuring porn site meant for women...If it was any of those, the visitor is male; if not, it was a female.
it's pretty logical, really.... .66 or something where they decided to change it to 1.0.
enlightenment has always been one of those not-officially-final sorts of applications that never dips above the version 0.x stages; e users have come to accept by now that e-0.15 will be followed by e-0.16 and e-0.17 in succession. It's kind of like gaim used to be up until about
Anyway, the 999 was to symbolize the approach to e17, and it works well with things like portage's method of versioning as well, i think...but, the earlier versions of releases were also labeled with a _pre* suffix. This suffix got in the way, so recently the team dropped it and replaced it with the *.001, giving them plenty of room (999 releases) before they have to call it e17. All this, of course, barring a rewrite.
got it?
after using e17 since the day it hit cvs (for probably the past month, it's been the default wm on my desktop machine and the *only* wm on my laptop), I've found it surprisingly beautiful and impressively stable (for cvs). There's a lot of magic coming up to e. It's also true that you have to use it to really understand what I mean about the beauty. Try some of the new apps built off the EFL (there's a file manager, image viewer, rss feeder, etc, etc), but cvs is very active, and I can't wait to see this wm armed and fully operational.
gentoo is only bloated if you make it bloated. if you set your USE flags conservatively, you'll install nothing but the absolute minimum required to run a system...hell, it wont even install cron unless you do it yourself.
""it'll be interesting to see which of the two.. x.org or enlightenment have the better performance.""
I'm pretty sure the answer to that question is "e". If i recall correctly, there was an irc discussion posted on xcomputerman's site that showed a few stats...EFL murdered xorg. I wish i could get back at the site to doublecheck the results, but it's been slashdotted.
way over ornamented? -- try a new theme. Wasteful of desktop real estate -- that's about the last charge I'd consider e guilty of. I'm a desktop real-estate nutcase, which is why i cannot stand using gnome, kde, or windows. distracting -- again, try a new theme. Take a look at the e16 default theme "winter" and tell me that it's distracting...hardly. My current e16 theme is nothing more than small text on thin black backrgounds with white text... it looks almost like a fluxbox interface (if it weren't for my pagers and engage). non-user-centric -- I don't know what you mean by this, but it's exactly what I want in a window manager...which to me seems mighty user-centric.
actually, you don't even have to restart... clicking on "regenerate menus" will get you the same result without restarting the wm.
since you've brought it up, and we're talking about e17 cvs, I might as well mention that the misc/ cvs of e contains a OSX-docker application that functions almost exactly like the OSX dock (though this form and function can change drastically if you change themes and settings.). anyway, it requires e17's EFL, and it's called engage. I've been using it for a few months now... it's effective and stable for me.
enlightenment runs faster on my both of my x86 machines than xfce4...hell, it's almost as quick as fluxbox, depending on settings. I think i remember seeing some comparisons done on the gentoo forums where a lot of users actually had it running quicker than fluxbox.
These screenshots, if you could see them, do not represent e17 in its current form last I checked (a day or two ago). They reflect, at best, legacy e17. The new e17 does not in any way resemble those teaser e17 screenshots we were seeing 2+ years ago or so. There are quite a few enthusiasts out there hosting videos and pictures, but out of respect for them and their home servers, I'll not link to any of their sites. Those who are desperate enough to seek out the real thing will hopefully find images and sources without bogging down those who've donated their bandwidth.
Anyway, the real treat in e17 isn't what is apparent in the wm cvs... as the team has emphasized time and again, the beauty right now is in the EFL (the enlightenment foundation LIBRARIES) and the beautiful potential they hold for applications, including the upcoming desktop environment. e17 is pretty (i have it "running" on my gentoo box), but completely impractical for use now...the current e17-based apps are also beautiful and impressively useful and stable for me (including elicit, entice, engage, entrance, evidence, and a host of other great apps!). It's exciting to see the beginnings of e17 in cvs, indeed, but I expect a lot of changes and a good deal of time before the next e17 even makes it to beta-level.
OOo has always been swift and speedy for me...okay, the 1.0 release (as with the StarOffice versions put out by stardivision) were bulky and slow, but as early as 1.0.3, speed was delicious for me. Perhaps I am an unusual case. I have only used the 1.* branch OOo on gentoo (though I used staroffice on windows 95) with relatively speedy compile options, but I don't think OOo uses those (if i recall correctly, it gives me a "open office is a delicate build, so I'm ignoring your flags" message whenever i upgrade. I do prelink on my P4 machine (not on my laptop), but prelinking has not improved startup speed by more than 2 or 3 seconds maximum. Also, I have tested out the 2.0 test builds, starting with build 48, on winXP machines with RAM as low as 256, and it has been just as responsive.
no, it is trademarkable... the problem is that someone else already owns the trademark (though i don't recall who...). See the FAQ: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html#10
What's with all the talk about OOo being so damned slow? I find it incredibly responsive on my machines. The machine I'm using now (Gentoo on P4@700MHz + 512MB RAM) takes less than 3-4 seconds to load up (ximianized) OOo 1.1.3! My laptop (Gentoo on PIII@400MHz + 256MB) still only takes 10-15 seconds to load OOo entirely (non-ximianized, OOo 1.1.3, i think). Give them a break, it's a damned good application and it runs almost as smoothly as Abiword for me.
I keep all of my file-data on a separate partition (lets just say /dev/hda6) which I mount on /home/jackson/data. Then, i fill the data category with every type of file I use, and a few special folders for certain functions, like these: ./audio/music ./audio/sfx ./audio/spoken ./video/film ./video/flash ./video/clips ./text/notes ./text/assignments ./text/poetry ./img/web ./img/design ./img/portfolio ./dev/(project name) ./temp/download ./temp/burn ./temp/audacity
and similar. Then, I just place symbolic links for the ones that I use the most ~/data/music and ~/img/design for example, in $HOME. The method is a hybrid of the logical order of organized subfoldering system, and easy accessability/practicality.