If you could do that while drunk perhaps you should choose to take it up again. You're powerless after all. What's stopping you? The flying spaghetti monster?
Only it's not a "thetan meter" at first. At first it's to measure your mental clarity (supposedly). It's much more plausible, especially when it's demonstrated to you and it does provide a sort of reaction which is reframed by the auditor. Only when you hit OTV are you using it to clear yourself of "body thetans" (bits of dead alien stuck to your body).
But you have an informed choice to believe in Zombie Jesus or not to. In Scientology, by the time you find out what it's really about, you've spent hundreds of thousands, all your friends and contacts are Scientology, and leaving means cutting off contact with all of them (starting an entire new life). Generally, Christians won't shun you if you leave (but they might try and convert you back, which is just persuasion).
There is also the fact that scientology practices thought reform (brainwashing) and ericsonian hypnosis, something that does not happen in legitimate religions. The difference, again, is that there is a lack of informed consent. They modify your thinking in ways you do not realize.
film grain is black and white, yes, but the print media is what i'm talking about. The actual paper supports an infinite amount of values. How it gets there (whether by film negative or digital negative on transparency) is not what I was talking about... I agree with the rest of your post, though, especially how real word results are most important.
Read Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe, or many others if you want a good comparison of religion and cults. The key thing is that cults deceive people into joining so there is no real informed consent. People join under false pretenses and are conned out of their money (basically by false advertising / fradulent misrepresentation). No cults are ever upfront about all their beliefs because nobody would ever join if they knew about the wacky shit higher up the ladder. You have to be good and brainwashed before you even find out about the space alien stuff. Christians are at least up front about what they believe (often annoyingly so). People have a right to believe what they want, sure... but fraud is another story.
Read Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe, or many others if you want a good comparison of religion and cults. The key thing is that cults deceive people into joining so there is no real informed consent. People join under false pretenses and are conned out of their money (basically by false advertising / fradulent misrepresentation). No cults are ever upfront about all their beliefs because nobody would ever join if they knew about the wacky shit higher up the ladder. You have to be good and brainwashed before you even find out about the space alien stuff.
It also means that people might blame OSX for quirks in the hardware compatablity. That is something Apple, a company very much concerned about reputation, does not want. As long as Apple controls both the hardware and software, they are able to eliminate a large portion of things that can go wrong and thus nothing threatens people's perception of the "mac experience".
Yup. I think a lot of people who are so fanatical about digital might open their minds just a little bit if they bothered to take a photo class and play around in the darkroom. It's different, yes, and in some ways is inferior, but in many ways the quality you get is superior, especially in the B&W dept. Even a dye sub will only print 256 increments of grey, which is nothing compared to the infinite value possibilities you get in the darkroom. You lose out on the blacks with digital, especially.
Nicotine replacement therapy works, though. Same concept too. Nicotine is delivered so slowly so as not to cause a pleasurable reaction, but in enough quantity that smokers won't get a buzz if they decide to smoke (and the cravings go away too). You eventually un-learn the bad habits while the drug takes care of the physical aspect.
Lots of "statistics" that aren't cited there. You claim it works? Prove it! Also, 12 step is religious. The courts are quite clear on that. There isn't a single case where the "we're spiritual not religious" argument has won, and rather than rehash it here, I suggest you read the caselaw. What you choose to call your higher power is irrelevant. There is one thing it cannot be: yourself. And regardless of your higher power you choose, it's directives are dictated by the organization/sponsor, and not directly. You might think you're anti-cult and anti-religion, but, sorry, bud... you most likely got conned. You got sucked in for "recovery" and ended up staying with the believe that if you quit, you'll inevitably die. Admit it. If you stop going, you fear for your sobriety and very life. That's not freedom. That's a prison of the mind. Religious or not, you become dependent on the group. Cults and cult-like groups don't necessary have to be overtly religious. All that is required is some sort of sacred teaching that is held up to be perfect and without flaw from which deviation is fatal.
The problem is the cheap camera, not the film or process. You can get polaroid backs for all sorts of cameras which provide pretty high quality prints. Consider that the negative is the printing surface, so there is no enlargment.
That method already exists. It's called making a digital negative. Basically you use a high-dpi inkjet (with lightfast ink) to print a negative onto a transparency. Then all you do is place the transparency directly over photo paper, expose to light, and develop. There are specially made transparencies (without patterns) you can get for this express purpose. There is nothing quite like a silver gelatin print. Inkjet can't even get close to the blacks you can get.
Ya think!?!?! The problem is that although the SC has ruled on the matter, nobody seems to care. Unless you have an attorney who knows what he's doing in this area, you can be sentenced to a religious organization for "treatment". Universities and Jobs coerce AA too, and good luck fighting them on it. There are too many members out there, and unlike most religions, you don't know who they are. What's so bad about it, other than principle? Well. despite the fact that AA gets 70% of it's membership from the health care and justice systems, there is the problem of people getting sucked in by cult-like means of deception.
Put yourself in the position of some shmo who for whatever reason (maybe with cause, maybe not) gets sent to a 12 step "recovery" group. Well. The "recovery" thing is sort of deceptive as they don't actually cure anything. There is frighteningly little in 12 step groups about actually quitting much of anything (save critical thinking which is referred to as "stinking thinking" in AA). "Recovery" in AA means lifelong meetings, relationship with a higher power, and strict adherence to AA doctrine which 12 steppers believe is "god inspired" through Bill Wilson (who was actually not that nice a charachter). I have no problem with religions if they advertise accurately, but AA masquerads as something it isn't, and loads it's language to decieve outsiders into believing it's something it's not. The lack of informed consent is what makes AA more cult-like than religion. People come in looking for help to quit drinking (or not) and are told that the *only* way is with AA and it's religious principles... or you *will die*.
So how did AA get so popular? Well. Couple reasons. 12th step, for one, is built in evangelism. You don't always know who they are. They don't advertise. They're anonymous after all. Secondly, oodles of people believing they have been helped, when often they're worse off. It's anecdotal evidence. What else do you expect. Thirdly, AA front groups like Hazelden have actively lobbied judges and others in authority.
End result of all this is religion in government and science gone down the pan.
You make a very good case, but I was talking scheme of things. 72 tons is well off that graph. A large fertilizer truck bomb could probably do the same damage minus radiation (or plus radiation if it was dispersed in the explosion).
Cool cool. I'd be interested in hearing how this works as people often ask me for alternatives to AA and it's good to have another. Email me (psyborgue@mac.com).
People have been telling me that for a long time but I've never really had a problem with it. Either apple filters it with my.mac address or... I just don't know. I'm pretty careless with my email and I just don't get much spam. When I do, i make it a practice to bounce my emails.
Ok. So it's naltrexone therapy. Good option. Did you know AA actively lobbied against Naltrexone. There was a Penn and Teller episode on AA that told the story briefly. See this video at about 7:50. The whole episode is fantastic, but they're a bit brief on the statistics. Stanton Peele covers those in depth in his books in which he takes a look at George Vaillant's original data. It's rare to find somebody else who is interested in the study of addiction. Feel free to shoot me an email sometime at psyborgue@mac.com. I'd love to know what you're background in this is if you feel comfortable.
Not that I'm endorsing the cure this man purports to sell, but the 12 steppers are a cultic bunch who attack anybody who dares critize their authority over the addiction treatment industry. Check out the end of this book chapter written by Stanton Peele. Stanton Peele is a man who has been pushing for a more scientific and less religious (12 step) approach to alcohol and addiction treatment. 12 steppers believe, for instance that the 12 steps were given to Bill Wilson by God. This is what's passed off as science in the addiction industry. AA is very very hostile towards any drug based treatment of alcoholism and has lobbied against drugs that treat alcohol dependence. They do this because they believe alcohoism is a "spiritual disease" and that the only true treatment is through god as interpred through the 12 steps. It's just about the only religion (and it has been ruled a religious organization by the courts) that the state mandates people attend. Does it work? No, and in some cases may actually cause harm (Brandsma study), but that's whole other can of worms.
I can't stand steppers, but what exactly is the alternative you're pushing? If it's a good book I might add it to the amazon book rotation on my site (fornits.com/phpbb). What is the basic premise? Life Process model (Peele)? Addiction is a choice (Schaler)? I've heard of and read a lot of books on the topic, but I haven't heard of that one. Details pls.
So called "achievements" and so forth. If there is no reward (and there often isn't, other than arbitrary "microsoft points" as in fallout's case). What else does it add to the game. It strikes me as if the developers decided at the last minute "ooh! let's make these little challenges insteading of adding extra gameplay or quests".
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If you could do that while drunk perhaps you should choose to take it up again. You're powerless after all. What's stopping you? The flying spaghetti monster?
Only it's not a "thetan meter" at first. At first it's to measure your mental clarity (supposedly). It's much more plausible, especially when it's demonstrated to you and it does provide a sort of reaction which is reframed by the auditor. Only when you hit OTV are you using it to clear yourself of "body thetans" (bits of dead alien stuck to your body).
Anybody who has heard the Xenu story is not likely to become a Scientologist.
But you have an informed choice to believe in Zombie Jesus or not to. In Scientology, by the time you find out what it's really about, you've spent hundreds of thousands, all your friends and contacts are Scientology, and leaving means cutting off contact with all of them (starting an entire new life). Generally, Christians won't shun you if you leave (but they might try and convert you back, which is just persuasion).
There is also the fact that scientology practices thought reform (brainwashing) and ericsonian hypnosis, something that does not happen in legitimate religions. The difference, again, is that there is a lack of informed consent. They modify your thinking in ways you do not realize.
film grain is black and white, yes, but the print media is what i'm talking about. The actual paper supports an infinite amount of values. How it gets there (whether by film negative or digital negative on transparency) is not what I was talking about... I agree with the rest of your post, though, especially how real word results are most important.
Read Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe, or many others if you want a good comparison of religion and cults. The key thing is that cults deceive people into joining so there is no real informed consent. People join under false pretenses and are conned out of their money (basically by false advertising / fradulent misrepresentation). No cults are ever upfront about all their beliefs because nobody would ever join if they knew about the wacky shit higher up the ladder. You have to be good and brainwashed before you even find out about the space alien stuff. Christians are at least up front about what they believe (often annoyingly so). People have a right to believe what they want, sure... but fraud is another story.
Read Margaret Singer, Richard Ofshe, or many others if you want a good comparison of religion and cults. The key thing is that cults deceive people into joining so there is no real informed consent. People join under false pretenses and are conned out of their money (basically by false advertising / fradulent misrepresentation). No cults are ever upfront about all their beliefs because nobody would ever join if they knew about the wacky shit higher up the ladder. You have to be good and brainwashed before you even find out about the space alien stuff.
Well. Provided they're punished for their actions or crimes as an organized entity and not for their beliefs, I don't see the problem.
It also means that people might blame OSX for quirks in the hardware compatablity. That is something Apple, a company very much concerned about reputation, does not want. As long as Apple controls both the hardware and software, they are able to eliminate a large portion of things that can go wrong and thus nothing threatens people's perception of the "mac experience".
Yup. I think a lot of people who are so fanatical about digital might open their minds just a little bit if they bothered to take a photo class and play around in the darkroom. It's different, yes, and in some ways is inferior, but in many ways the quality you get is superior, especially in the B&W dept. Even a dye sub will only print 256 increments of grey, which is nothing compared to the infinite value possibilities you get in the darkroom. You lose out on the blacks with digital, especially.
Nicotine replacement therapy works, though. Same concept too. Nicotine is delivered so slowly so as not to cause a pleasurable reaction, but in enough quantity that smokers won't get a buzz if they decide to smoke (and the cravings go away too). You eventually un-learn the bad habits while the drug takes care of the physical aspect.
Lots of "statistics" that aren't cited there. You claim it works? Prove it! Also, 12 step is religious. The courts are quite clear on that. There isn't a single case where the "we're spiritual not religious" argument has won, and rather than rehash it here, I suggest you read the caselaw. What you choose to call your higher power is irrelevant. There is one thing it cannot be: yourself. And regardless of your higher power you choose, it's directives are dictated by the organization/sponsor, and not directly. You might think you're anti-cult and anti-religion, but, sorry, bud... you most likely got conned. You got sucked in for "recovery" and ended up staying with the believe that if you quit, you'll inevitably die. Admit it. If you stop going, you fear for your sobriety and very life. That's not freedom. That's a prison of the mind. Religious or not, you become dependent on the group. Cults and cult-like groups don't necessary have to be overtly religious. All that is required is some sort of sacred teaching that is held up to be perfect and without flaw from which deviation is fatal.
The problem is the cheap camera, not the film or process. You can get polaroid backs for all sorts of cameras which provide pretty high quality prints. Consider that the negative is the printing surface, so there is no enlargment.
That method already exists. It's called making a digital negative. Basically you use a high-dpi inkjet (with lightfast ink) to print a negative onto a transparency. Then all you do is place the transparency directly over photo paper, expose to light, and develop. There are specially made transparencies (without patterns) you can get for this express purpose. There is nothing quite like a silver gelatin print. Inkjet can't even get close to the blacks you can get.
You have heard of a dirty bomb, right?
Good advice. There is lots of snake oil in the addiction treatment industry.
Ya think!?!?! The problem is that although the SC has ruled on the matter, nobody seems to care. Unless you have an attorney who knows what he's doing in this area, you can be sentenced to a religious organization for "treatment". Universities and Jobs coerce AA too, and good luck fighting them on it. There are too many members out there, and unlike most religions, you don't know who they are. What's so bad about it, other than principle? Well. despite the fact that AA gets 70% of it's membership from the health care and justice systems, there is the problem of people getting sucked in by cult-like means of deception.
Put yourself in the position of some shmo who for whatever reason (maybe with cause, maybe not) gets sent to a 12 step "recovery" group. Well. The "recovery" thing is sort of deceptive as they don't actually cure anything. There is frighteningly little in 12 step groups about actually quitting much of anything (save critical thinking which is referred to as "stinking thinking" in AA). "Recovery" in AA means lifelong meetings, relationship with a higher power, and strict adherence to AA doctrine which 12 steppers believe is "god inspired" through Bill Wilson (who was actually not that nice a charachter). I have no problem with religions if they advertise accurately, but AA masquerads as something it isn't, and loads it's language to decieve outsiders into believing it's something it's not. The lack of informed consent is what makes AA more cult-like than religion. People come in looking for help to quit drinking (or not) and are told that the *only* way is with AA and it's religious principles... or you *will die*.
So how did AA get so popular? Well. Couple reasons. 12th step, for one, is built in evangelism. You don't always know who they are. They don't advertise. They're anonymous after all. Secondly, oodles of people believing they have been helped, when often they're worse off. It's anecdotal evidence. What else do you expect. Thirdly, AA front groups like Hazelden have actively lobbied judges and others in authority.
End result of all this is religion in government and science gone down the pan.
You make a very good case, but I was talking scheme of things. 72 tons is well off that graph. A large fertilizer truck bomb could probably do the same damage minus radiation (or plus radiation if it was dispersed in the explosion).
Cool cool. I'd be interested in hearing how this works as people often ask me for alternatives to AA and it's good to have another. Email me (psyborgue@mac.com).
People have been telling me that for a long time but I've never really had a problem with it. Either apple filters it with my .mac address or... I just don't know. I'm pretty careless with my email and I just don't get much spam. When I do, i make it a practice to bounce my emails.
Ok. So it's naltrexone therapy. Good option. Did you know AA actively lobbied against Naltrexone. There was a Penn and Teller episode on AA that told the story briefly. See this video at about 7:50. The whole episode is fantastic, but they're a bit brief on the statistics. Stanton Peele covers those in depth in his books in which he takes a look at George Vaillant's original data. It's rare to find somebody else who is interested in the study of addiction. Feel free to shoot me an email sometime at psyborgue@mac.com. I'd love to know what you're background in this is if you feel comfortable.
Not that I'm endorsing the cure this man purports to sell, but the 12 steppers are a cultic bunch who attack anybody who dares critize their authority over the addiction treatment industry. Check out the end of this book chapter written by Stanton Peele. Stanton Peele is a man who has been pushing for a more scientific and less religious (12 step) approach to alcohol and addiction treatment. 12 steppers believe, for instance that the 12 steps were given to Bill Wilson by God. This is what's passed off as science in the addiction industry. AA is very very hostile towards any drug based treatment of alcoholism and has lobbied against drugs that treat alcohol dependence. They do this because they believe alcohoism is a "spiritual disease" and that the only true treatment is through god as interpred through the 12 steps. It's just about the only religion (and it has been ruled a religious organization by the courts) that the state mandates people attend. Does it work? No, and in some cases may actually cause harm (Brandsma study), but that's whole other can of worms.
I can't stand steppers, but what exactly is the alternative you're pushing? If it's a good book I might add it to the amazon book rotation on my site (fornits.com/phpbb). What is the basic premise? Life Process model (Peele)? Addiction is a choice (Schaler)? I've heard of and read a lot of books on the topic, but I haven't heard of that one. Details pls.
They don't. They'll also drink themselves to death on water if they're stressed out enough. Probably aquaholism. Like anything, all this depends on the expectations people have when they go into an experiment. Statistics are the mothers of many lies.
So called "achievements" and so forth. If there is no reward (and there often isn't, other than arbitrary "microsoft points" as in fallout's case). What else does it add to the game. It strikes me as if the developers decided at the last minute "ooh! let's make these little challenges insteading of adding extra gameplay or quests".