I think what most people are missing from the debate is not that Linux is cheaper or more expensive or anything. The question about TCO really comes down to the applications you want to run, and the aftermarket support you get from that.
Now, as far as network/system engineering is concerned, or for basic word processing, Linux - by itself - is much better than Windows. Linux is great for your LAMP stack and web-based solutions, not to mention basic network services like DNS, NTP, LDAP, RADIUS. No problems there.
However, most businesses run enterprise applications. Microsoft has better Office integration software, which precludes most business desktops being installed with Windows to get their Exchange and Sharepoint stuff working. As for what runs on their servers, in most cases it will be a toss up between some Windows server based application, or an Oracle on Linux application.
The kicker is that Oracle software on Linux is a complete cow to get up and working, and their support sucks. Microsoft, for all their faults, actually is much easier to manage in comparison. Installs go easily and their support is miles ahead.
In many cases it's just much easier to run the application on Windows, and then hedge against failure with virtual environments and routine snapshots. I've seen clients ditch their Linux servers for Windows because of Oracle products not living up to expectations - and the competition running their app on Windows.
Intelligence is actually fatal for mating. The mating instincts are part of our monkey-brains, and if our monkey-brains are too civilized, then we actually have problems tapping into the instincts that assist reproduction.
This is where alcohol steps in to save the human race, and thank goodness for that.
ynow... there is a moral to this tale: if businesses and individuals making money from software (libre) had properly funded it, putting some of the money that they saved from not purchasing proprietary software into the hands of those software teams, would we be talking about this now? in all probability, the answer is no.
And that's a flaw in the open source model. There is the assumption that people will review code and give back to the code... but it is just naive. It assumes that companies actually care about utopian ideals and not just making money for shareholders.
Additionally in the field of system administration, when issues like this occur it is always about appropriating blame. Some places would rather let hackers break their systems than risk upsetting customers with downtime to fix issues. If a hacker gets in, the hacker gets blamed.... but if the user experiences downtime from a patch or critical upgrade which maybe breaks compatibility with the old.... the company gets the blame for trying to protect it's users!
You've actually got to employ soldiers and buy weapons before you either start a war or are attacked! In your case, another army probably just walked in on you!
I totally agree... but given that I don't believe the programmers ever intended a player to "beat the game", the fact that I found a loophole in the game to do just that AND given the bizarre police-state parallels the solution had, I thought it was interesting enough to post.
I learnt an interesting political lesson on my Commodore 64 back in the day.
There was this political sim called "Tyrant" (ancient descendant of Tropico, or civilisation), and you played as the dictator of a communist state. It was a pretty hard game, as most times the state would collapse and there'd be a revolution.
Eventually, after playing it long enough I managed to find the one way to prevent that state from ever collapsing and have it eternally make money.
Firstly, you had to invade all the surrounding countries and smash external threats. Then you convert to a democracy and install elections. Then you generate lots and lots of jobs for people in the secret police Then you brainwash the populace with masses spent on election funding. With the population happy and brainwashed, you could raise the tax rate through the roof and no-one would care... also thanks to the huge secret police force they would turn on each other instead of resist the ridiculous taxation and the root cause of said taxation (thanks to election brainwashing)
The cassette recorder can be emulated too. There is a file format for C64 cassettes called TAP.
That said, the tape emulation can be sped up, and with the TAP loading from solid state memory, you get to miss out on hitting a load error, having to rewind the tape, and starting all over again 5 minutes for something to load. I have to admit, having the emulated tape takes all the fun out of it!
Said author is brilliant but suffers from schizophrenia. He hears multiple voices in his head and can't control them. He's almost impossible to talk to because of this, as he gets sidetracked and the "voice of God" leads him way off the rails.
That said, his OS is the best April Fools joke you can play on any one in your office. Remove their desktop hard drive and replace it with a disk that boots into this!
This is the argument that usually gets the slam-dunk in discussions with racial supremacists of any ilk. The fact that all civilizations form, collapse, and remorph is an element of evolution.
As for indigenous populations dying off... many of them interbreed with the local populations, while the rest of them engage in self-destructive behaviour (gambling, alcohol, and other vices) which in turn destroy what's left of their old communities.
It's called "the fall of man" because even up until this day.... men will stupidly do what women tell them to do even though they know it's not good for them.....and that is why we have all the problems in the world today!
Humans obviously have a belief circuit that is exploited by organized religion.
Yes, and it's called the placebo effect. Derren Brown did a whole show on it.
Think of a large important building, where very important people work who dress in funny coats, and are surrounded by very expensive objects. These people have some very esoteric knowledge and many people visit them looking for healing. They promise that you'll get better if you do what they say, and follow their ritual a few times a day. People swear that what they do actually works.
So what is this place called?
No, it's not a church or temple.... it's a hospital.... but the principle is the same, although the hospital is somewhat more scientific.
Once upon a time there was a young prince, who believed in all things but three. He did not believe in princesses, he did not believe in islands, he did not believe in God. His father, the King, told him that such things did not exist. As there were no princesses or islands in his father's domaines, and no sign of God, the young prince believed his father. But then, one day, the prince ran away from his palace. He came to the next land. There, to his astonishment, from every coast he saw islands, and on these islands, strange and troubling creatures whom he dared not name. As he searched for a boat, a man in full evening dress approached along the shore. "Are those real islands?" asked the young prince. "Of course they are real islands," said the man in evening dress. "And those strange and troubling creatures?" "They are all genuine and authentic princesses." "Then God must also exist!" cried the prince. "I am God," replied the man in full evening dress, with a bow.
The young prince returned home as quickly as he could.
"So you are back," said his father. "I have seen islands, I have seen princesses, I have seen God," said the prince reproachfully. The king was unmoved. "Neither real islands, nor real princesses, nor a real God, exist." "I saw them!" "Tell me how God was dressed." "God was in full evening dress." "Were the sleeves of his coat rolled back?" The prince remembered that they had been. The king smiled. "That is the uniform of a magician. You have been deceived." At this, the prince returned to the next land, and went to the same shore, where he once again came upon the man in full evening dress. "My father the king has told me who you are," said the young prince indignantly. "You deceived me last time, but not again. Now I know that those are not real islands and real princesses, because you are a magician." The man on the shore smiled. "It is you who are deceived, my boy. In your father's kingdom there are many islands and many princesses. But you are under your father's spell, so you cannot see them."
The prince returned home. When he saw his father, he looked him in the eyes. "Father, is it true that you are not a real king, but only a magician?" The king smiled, and rolled back his sleeves. "Yes, my son, I am only a magician." "Then the man on the shore was God." "The man on the shore was another magician." "I must know the real truth, the truth beyond magic." "There is no truth beyond magic," said the king. The prince was full of sadness. He said, "I will kill myself." The king by magic caused death to appear. Death stood in the door and beckoned to the prince. The prince shuddered. He remembered the beautiful but unreal islands and the unreal but beautiful princesses. "Very well," he said. "I can bear it." "You see, my son," said the king, "you too now begin to become a magician." -
I guessing that it can't unless we're talking windows embedded. Normal desktop windows throws a fit if it can't find a honest-to-goodness Hard drive or SSD to install onto.
Crazy idea, I know... but given that would be the drawcard of an x86 architecture over an ARM CPU...
I have to ask if it would be possible and if there would be driver support.
Hahaha! Good one! Next they should partner with a dildo company so that you can only use the Oculus Rift when you have a copy of Zuck's cock up your ass.
Be careful what you wish for.... like the VHS, DVD, and internet before it, all the device needs is some porn to give it the push it needs to go mainstream.
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I think what most people are missing from the debate is not that Linux is cheaper or more expensive or anything.
The question about TCO really comes down to the applications you want to run, and the aftermarket support you get from that.
Now, as far as network/system engineering is concerned, or for basic word processing, Linux - by itself - is much better than Windows.
Linux is great for your LAMP stack and web-based solutions, not to mention basic network services like DNS, NTP, LDAP, RADIUS. No problems there.
However, most businesses run enterprise applications. Microsoft has better Office integration software, which precludes most business desktops being installed with Windows to get their Exchange and Sharepoint stuff working. As for what runs on their servers, in most cases it will be a toss up between some Windows server based application, or an Oracle on Linux application.
The kicker is that Oracle software on Linux is a complete cow to get up and working, and their support sucks.
Microsoft, for all their faults, actually is much easier to manage in comparison. Installs go easily and their support is miles ahead.
In many cases it's just much easier to run the application on Windows, and then hedge against failure with virtual environments and routine snapshots.
I've seen clients ditch their Linux servers for Windows because of Oracle products not living up to expectations - and the competition running their app on Windows.
They'd be absolutely stupid to not capitalize on this and push people to the poker-machine-look-a-like Windows 8
For some funny blow-by-blow commentary that the LibreSSL people are doing, check out http://opensslrampage.org/
Too many VMS jokes to count.... but just looking at the comments, OpenSSL's code is labyrinthine and full of cruft and useless files.
Intelligence is actually fatal for mating. The mating instincts are part of our monkey-brains, and if our monkey-brains are too civilized, then we actually have problems tapping into the instincts that assist reproduction.
This is where alcohol steps in to save the human race, and thank goodness for that.
ynow... there is a moral to this tale: if businesses and individuals making money from software (libre) had properly funded it, putting some of the money that they saved from not purchasing proprietary software into the hands of those software teams, would we be talking about this now? in all probability, the answer is no.
And that's a flaw in the open source model. There is the assumption that people will review code and give back to the code... but it is just naive.
It assumes that companies actually care about utopian ideals and not just making money for shareholders.
Additionally in the field of system administration, when issues like this occur it is always about appropriating blame. Some places would rather let hackers break their systems than risk upsetting customers with downtime to fix issues. If a hacker gets in, the hacker gets blamed.... but if the user experiences downtime from a patch or critical upgrade which maybe breaks compatibility with the old.... the company gets the blame for trying to protect it's users!
That's just the ugly realities we deal with.
You've actually got to employ soldiers and buy weapons before you either start a war or are attacked!
In your case, another army probably just walked in on you!
Yep, that's it.
There were quite a few for the old computer. Like Bananadrama... although I haven't played that one enough to learn how to beat it ;)
I totally agree... but given that I don't believe the programmers ever intended a player to "beat the game", the fact that I found a loophole in the game to do just that AND given the bizarre police-state parallels the solution had, I thought it was interesting enough to post.
I learnt an interesting political lesson on my Commodore 64 back in the day.
There was this political sim called "Tyrant" (ancient descendant of Tropico, or civilisation), and you played as the dictator of a communist state.
It was a pretty hard game, as most times the state would collapse and there'd be a revolution.
Eventually, after playing it long enough I managed to find the one way to prevent that state from ever collapsing and have it eternally make money.
Firstly, you had to invade all the surrounding countries and smash external threats.
Then you convert to a democracy and install elections.
Then you generate lots and lots of jobs for people in the secret police
Then you brainwash the populace with masses spent on election funding.
With the population happy and brainwashed, you could raise the tax rate through the roof and no-one would care... also thanks to the huge secret police force they would turn on each other instead of resist the ridiculous taxation and the root cause of said taxation (thanks to election brainwashing)
Does this sound familiar?
It was kinda fun for a buggy BASIC program.
In Soviet Russia, it will be listed under all websites!
In other words: Things are only ever new once.
The cassette recorder can be emulated too. There is a file format for C64 cassettes called TAP.
That said, the tape emulation can be sped up, and with the TAP loading from solid state memory, you get to miss out on hitting a load error, having to rewind the tape, and starting all over again 5 minutes for something to load. I have to admit, having the emulated tape takes all the fun out of it!
Said author is brilliant but suffers from schizophrenia. He hears multiple voices in his head and can't control them. He's almost impossible to talk to because of this, as he gets sidetracked and the "voice of God" leads him way off the rails.
That said, his OS is the best April Fools joke you can play on any one in your office. Remove their desktop hard drive and replace it with a disk that boots into this!
Just make sure that you haven't got any missing games and programs from Gamebase64 www.gb64.com
They'll be interested in any rare disks of games and educational software for preservation and archival.
You might be interested in this then:
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/C64_...
This is the argument that usually gets the slam-dunk in discussions with racial supremacists of any ilk.
The fact that all civilizations form, collapse, and remorph is an element of evolution.
As for indigenous populations dying off... many of them interbreed with the local populations, while the rest of them engage in self-destructive behaviour (gambling, alcohol, and other vices) which in turn destroy what's left of their old communities.
This one is more up to date. Somebody is still working on patching Windows 98!
http://www.htasoft.com/u98sesp...
Given that somebody clearly took the trouble to make Unofficial patch sets for Windows 98, we can fully expect unofficial patch sets for Windows XP
http://www.mdgx.com/upd98me.ph...
It's called "the fall of man" because even up until this day.... men will stupidly do what women tell them to do even though they know it's not good for them. ....and that is why we have all the problems in the world today!
it's not called "the fall of women"....
Humans obviously have a belief circuit that is exploited by organized religion.
Yes, and it's called the placebo effect. Derren Brown did a whole show on it.
Think of a large important building, where very important people work who dress in funny coats, and are surrounded by very expensive objects. These people have some very esoteric knowledge and many people visit them looking for healing. They promise that you'll get better if you do what they say, and follow their ritual a few times a day. People swear that what they do actually works.
So what is this place called?
No, it's not a church or temple.... it's a hospital.... but the principle is the same, although the hospital is somewhat more scientific.
http://www.angelfire.com/nd/ki...
The Prince and the Magician
Once upon a time there was a young prince, who believed in all things but three. He did not believe in princesses, he did not believe in islands, he did not believe in God. His father, the King, told him that such things did not exist. As there were no princesses or islands in his father's domaines, and no sign of God, the young prince believed his father.
But then, one day, the prince ran away from his palace. He came to the next land. There, to his astonishment, from every coast he saw islands, and on these islands, strange and troubling creatures whom he dared not name. As he searched for a boat, a man in full evening dress approached along the shore.
"Are those real islands?" asked the young prince.
"Of course they are real islands," said the man in evening dress.
"And those strange and troubling creatures?"
"They are all genuine and authentic princesses."
"Then God must also exist!" cried the prince.
"I am God," replied the man in full evening dress, with a bow.
The young prince returned home as quickly as he could.
"So you are back," said his father.
"I have seen islands, I have seen princesses, I have seen God," said the prince reproachfully.
The king was unmoved.
"Neither real islands, nor real princesses, nor a real God, exist."
"I saw them!"
"Tell me how God was dressed."
"God was in full evening dress."
"Were the sleeves of his coat rolled back?"
The prince remembered that they had been. The king smiled.
"That is the uniform of a magician. You have been deceived."
At this, the prince returned to the next land, and went to the same shore, where he once again came upon the man in full evening dress.
"My father the king has told me who you are," said the young prince indignantly. "You deceived me last time, but not again. Now I know that those are not real islands and real princesses, because you are a magician."
The man on the shore smiled.
"It is you who are deceived, my boy. In your father's kingdom there are many islands and many princesses. But you are under your father's spell, so you cannot see them."
The prince returned home. When he saw his father, he looked him in the eyes.
"Father, is it true that you are not a real king, but only a magician?"
The king smiled, and rolled back his sleeves.
"Yes, my son, I am only a magician."
"Then the man on the shore was God."
"The man on the shore was another magician."
"I must know the real truth, the truth beyond magic."
"There is no truth beyond magic," said the king.
The prince was full of sadness.
He said, "I will kill myself."
The king by magic caused death to appear. Death stood in the door and beckoned to the prince. The prince shuddered. He remembered the beautiful but unreal islands and the unreal but beautiful princesses.
"Very well," he said. "I can bear it."
"You see, my son," said the king, "you too now begin to become a magician." -
--Adapted from "The Magus" by John Fowles
Marriage (or the purchase of women as property) predates religion. It's religion that made it official policy though.
I guessing that it can't unless we're talking windows embedded.
Normal desktop windows throws a fit if it can't find a honest-to-goodness Hard drive or SSD to install onto.
Crazy idea, I know... but given that would be the drawcard of an x86 architecture over an ARM CPU...
I have to ask if it would be possible and if there would be driver support.
Hahaha! Good one! Next they should partner with a dildo company so that you can only use the Oculus Rift when you have a copy of Zuck's cock up your ass.
Be careful what you wish for.... like the VHS, DVD, and internet before it, all the device needs is some porn to give it the push it needs to go mainstream.