Don't get the ATI. They may have opened up, but their performance is still one (Well, two with the GeForce out) generation behind everyone. They won't release a new card until they're 3-4 generations behind. Look how long (2-3 YEARS) it took them to release a chipset that could even beat the original Voodoo1. Their latest is slower (not by much, but definately slower) than an original TNT.
Do some searching - I'm pretty sure there's a Linux version of Acidwarp somewhere. I think I saw it a few days ago when I was looking for such stuff for this box after seeing Geiss.
I wholeheartedly agree. The only reason I haven't bought Myth II is because it's too dangerous - Having CivCTP around is going to be bad enough for my attempts to do my schoolwork.:)
Yeah, but if Apple's ripping me off that much on the upgrade, how much am I getting ripped on the basic system? Since it's not itemized, I'm thinking a lot. Note that if I spend $1500 on a PC, I'll get a LOT more than if I spend an equivalent amount on a Mac.
Which is the better deal? I'd say even the bare Mac is a ripoff. And don't pull that "but the G3 is a better processor." on me - A fast processor does NOT make a good system. Note that my K6-2/300 kicks the crap out of a lot of those #1500 PII-400s because the rest of the system is fully decked out. Especially note my previous rant about Apple's love affair with ATI.
As far as MacOS support for other video cards - Do you realize how anal ATI is with their specs? If Apple can get specs from ATI, they can get specs from anyone. Especially NVidia, who is not only supporting Linux with an open-source driver, but is also supporting BeOS.
The hardware is (for the most part) standard. But there are some EXTREMELY proprietary things in Macs. I think the biggest example is the firmware being written to prevent an upgrade to a G4 for any G3 owners. Oh yeah, and let's see you try to get a good video card for a Mac. The latest ATI cards can be described as "acceptable" at best, but they're still more than a generation behind PCs - The Rage 128 is slower than an original TNT and has lower visual quality. Meanwhile, the PC world currently has TNT2s available for $90, and TNT2 Ultras in the $170 range, with the GeForce on the horizon. Yes, they may be PCI (or AGP), but I don't see MacOS supporting 3D on anything except the crap ATIs. There are two main things that have to happen before I'll buy a Mac: a) Apple has to end their love affair with bottom-of-the-barrel chipset maker ATI. The only worse manufacturer is S3 IMHO. b) They have to stop charging $324 (academic pricing) to upgrade from a 6 gig to 12 gig HD when I can get a 12gig for $120 outright. c) Sell a mobo, case, and nothing else. I think the Linux cloners using the IBM specs will beat Apple to this.
I have one, it sucks if you have 3 7200 RPM hard drives. There is no way at all to cool anything in the 3.5 inch bays, they have a thick piece of solid metal blocking them. Bad, bad design.
I can't remember which vendor it was that I want a case from... Had a 4-digit part number, thou... Something like 6890 or something. (It wasn't PC Power and Cooling - great cases but WAY too expensive!)
Remember, this is ZDNet we're reading. Last time I checked, Tik/TOC was NOT anything near GPL. Reasonably open, but definately not GPL, and possibly not even meeting the DFSG. (I never bothered to check the license that carefully, it was Good Enough for me.)
If AOL really wanted to kill Tik/TOC, they would've taken the service down and killed the TICTOC-USERS mailing list which they host. Yes, the page is down. But one of the current theories on TICTOC-USERS on why the page is gone but the service (and files) are still there is that the webmaster picked a Very Bad Time to go on vacation. Of course, I could just be on crack.:)
Whoops, looks like they changed the license. It is GPLed now. But so far they have done nothing that violates the GPL. Sure, taking down the pages is a bit anal, but the disappearance of the pages might just be an accident. "document contains no data" doesn't say much - if they were really trying to kill off Tik, there would be some sort of message saying "TiK has been discontinued" or something like that.
If MS had used the open TOC protocol instead of AOL's proprietary OSCAR protocol, AOL probably wouldn't have done much.
But MS reverse-engineered OSCAR. OSCAR includes a client ID, and unless MS falsifies that to make it look like an official AOL client (which is illegal), it was just a matter of time before AOL killed their client just like every other OSCAR-using AIM clone. Yes, AOL did kill fAIM, etc. by blocking them. The final deathblow was the open (and in many cases better) TOC protocol. The only problem with TOC is that it lacks user searching, otherwise it's always farther along than OSCAR.
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Then *how* the hell did I get on the list? I'm active on a LOT of mailing lists, but my portfolio of software written for anything other than CS 100? Nothing. Nada.
It's used the exact same way as a credit card, except that it deducts straight from your checking account. All the convenience of using a credit card without any of the worries about running up a debt.
I still have my parents' credit card for emergencies, but for personal use I only have a Visa check card tied right to my account up here at college. Check cards are wonderful things.
The ITAR laws were designed to prevent the "enemy" from obtaining our crypto algorithms during WWII, etc. That was back when having the algorithm/implementation of a code allowed you to easily break that code.
Then came public-key. ITAR's original intent became useless, but the NSA/CIA/FBI and all their friends decided to use ITAR in a new (and much more ominous context). ITAR wasn't an evil law before public-key made it useless. Now it is.
If they're referring to anything other than the kernel as Linux, then I think it's time to see if the Linux trademark is still enforcable. Or force them to make a public retraction of their statements about using Linux. (Which would admittedly be one form of enforcing the mark.)
I'm not sure exactly how this portion of trademark law works, but is the Linux trademark still enforcable despite the fact that Linus has set relatively relaxed usage terms? (i.e. The terms are lax, but they ARE clear, so any violation of those terms constitutes an enforcable violation of the trademark?)
Does anyone have a pointer to the status/licensing terms for the Linux trademark?
a) Virges are dog-slow compared to any other 3D chipset. Even ATI can consistently beat them.
b) Virges have had a long-lasting habit of misreporting PCI memory usage. This requires anyone using a 3Dfx or Bt848 tuner to run all sorts of workarounds. I think other memory-mapped cards may be affected, too.
Yeah, but this is just the opposite. Almost surely, most of Diamond's quality video products will disappear. S3 is digging themselves deeper into a hole, and REALLY screwing Diamond. Diamond has always had a good rep for high-performance 3D cards. How is this possible when you're owned by S3, one of the worst chipset vendors in the world? Not only are they anemic, but they're buggy. (Causing no end of troubles for 3Dfx and Bt848 TV tuner users.)
If Matrox hasn't released the specs for the G400's triangle setup engine (They never did for the G200), this is just a marketing ploy. Buy a TNT.
By releasing already-written GPLed drivers, NVidia jumped to the top of the pack. Esp. since they actually have decent Windows drivers if there are any games you still need to reboot for.
Short of releasing a faster card (Is the G400 faster than the TNT2?) AND releasing full specs for the card, Matrox is dead in the water.
(Note: Not long ago I was a Matrox fan and an NVidia hater. Then Matrox kept on slipping on drivers, and I got annoyed.)
With "exotic" hardware, the upper limit is 230-400Kbps and still be packet-based.
There's a 10 GHz point-to-point system described in the '95 ARRL Handbook and probably later editions that does 2 Mbps, and with some modifications, can do full 10M Ethernet, and it was designed to have the AUI pinout. (Unfortunately, you need to push the demodulator chip beyond specs to run at 10M, and you need a REALLY good Gunnplexer with electronic tuning. Sorry, no police radar surplus for you. Or me.:(
There are some cases where benchmarks are more valid than others.
The Linpack benchmark is one that's been around a long time, and is pretty much an agreed-upon benchmark in the computing industry.
In addition, the numbers are submitted by the USERS of the machines, not the vendors, and this makes a LOT of difference in the trustworthiness of the benchmark.
Mangling your email address to hide your real email address is legal. Anonymity is a legal right.
Just as long as you don't mangle your address to president@whitehouse.gov or malda@slashdot.org or the like. Then you're forging someone else's address, and that's illegal.
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Probably can't be done, as I don't think QuakeC can interface to the system.
Quake2, OTOH, would work, as they use straight C and shared libs. System interfacing is frowned upon but possible.
Just kill their bash or whatever shell they're using. :)
Don't get the ATI. They may have opened up, but their performance is still one (Well, two with the GeForce out) generation behind everyone. They won't release a new card until they're 3-4 generations behind. Look how long (2-3 YEARS) it took them to release a chipset that could even beat the original Voodoo1. Their latest is slower (not by much, but definately slower) than an original TNT.
Do some searching - I'm pretty sure there's a Linux version of Acidwarp somewhere. I think I saw it a few days ago when I was looking for such stuff for this box after seeing Geiss.
God, I want Geiss for Linux...
I wholeheartedly agree. The only reason I haven't bought Myth II is because it's too dangerous - Having CivCTP around is going to be bad enough for my attempts to do my schoolwork. :)
Yeah, but if Apple's ripping me off that much on the upgrade, how much am I getting ripped on the basic system? Since it's not itemized, I'm thinking a lot. Note that if I spend $1500 on a PC, I'll get a LOT more than if I spend an equivalent amount on a Mac.
$1500 approx. - PII 400, 17 inch monitor, 128M RAM, 13 gig HD.
$1500 approx - G3 350, no monitor, 64M RAM, 6 gig HD.
Which is the better deal? I'd say even the bare Mac is a ripoff. And don't pull that "but the G3 is a better processor." on me - A fast processor does NOT make a good system. Note that my K6-2/300 kicks the crap out of a lot of those #1500 PII-400s because the rest of the system is fully decked out. Especially note my previous rant about Apple's love affair with ATI.
As far as MacOS support for other video cards - Do you realize how anal ATI is with their specs? If Apple can get specs from ATI, they can get specs from anyone. Especially NVidia, who is not only supporting Linux with an open-source driver, but is also supporting BeOS.
The hardware is (for the most part) standard. But there are some EXTREMELY proprietary things in Macs. I think the biggest example is the firmware being written to prevent an upgrade to a G4 for any G3 owners. Oh yeah, and let's see you try to get a good video card for a Mac. The latest ATI cards can be described as "acceptable" at best, but they're still more than a generation behind PCs - The Rage 128 is slower than an original TNT and has lower visual quality. Meanwhile, the PC world currently has TNT2s available for $90, and TNT2 Ultras in the $170 range, with the GeForce on the horizon. Yes, they may be PCI (or AGP), but I don't see MacOS supporting 3D on anything except the crap ATIs. There are two main things that have to happen before I'll buy a Mac: a) Apple has to end their love affair with bottom-of-the-barrel chipset maker ATI. The only worse manufacturer is S3 IMHO. b) They have to stop charging $324 (academic pricing) to upgrade from a 6 gig to 12 gig HD when I can get a 12gig for $120 outright. c) Sell a mobo, case, and nothing else. I think the Linux cloners using the IBM specs will beat Apple to this.
I have one, it sucks if you have 3 7200 RPM hard drives. There is no way at all to cool anything in the 3.5 inch bays, they have a thick piece of solid metal blocking them. Bad, bad design.
I can't remember which vendor it was that I want a case from... Had a 4-digit part number, thou... Something like 6890 or something. (It wasn't PC Power and Cooling - great cases but WAY too expensive!)
Um guys,
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Remember, this is ZDNet we're reading. Last time I checked, Tik/TOC was NOT anything near GPL. Reasonably open, but definately not GPL, and possibly not even meeting the DFSG. (I never bothered to check the license that carefully, it was Good Enough for me.)
If AOL really wanted to kill Tik/TOC, they would've taken the service down and killed the TICTOC-USERS mailing list which they host. Yes, the page is down. But one of the current theories on TICTOC-USERS on why the page is gone but the service (and files) are still there is that the webmaster picked a Very Bad Time to go on vacation. Of course, I could just be on crack.
Whoops, looks like they changed the license. It is GPLed now. But so far they have done nothing that violates the GPL. Sure, taking down the pages is a bit anal, but the disappearance of the pages might just be an accident. "document contains no data" doesn't say much - if they were really trying to kill off Tik, there would be some sort of message saying "TiK has been discontinued" or something like that.
If MS had used the open TOC protocol instead of AOL's proprietary OSCAR protocol, AOL probably wouldn't have done much.
But MS reverse-engineered OSCAR. OSCAR includes a client ID, and unless MS falsifies that to make it look like an official AOL client (which is illegal), it was just a matter of time before AOL killed their client just like every other OSCAR-using AIM clone. Yes, AOL did kill fAIM, etc. by blocking them. The final deathblow was the open (and in many cases better) TOC protocol. The only problem with TOC is that it lacks user searching, otherwise it's always farther along than OSCAR.
Where the heck did you find a mobo to do this?
Then *how* the hell did I get on the list? I'm active on a LOT of mailing lists, but my portfolio of software written for anything other than CS 100? Nothing. Nada.
It's used the exact same way as a credit card, except that it deducts straight from your checking account. All the convenience of using a credit card without any of the worries about running up a debt.
I still have my parents' credit card for emergencies, but for personal use I only have a Visa check card tied right to my account up here at college. Check cards are wonderful things.
The ITAR laws were designed to prevent the "enemy" from obtaining our crypto algorithms during WWII, etc. That was back when having the algorithm/implementation of a code allowed you to easily break that code.
Then came public-key. ITAR's original intent became useless, but the NSA/CIA/FBI and all their friends decided to use ITAR in a new (and much more ominous context). ITAR wasn't an evil law before public-key made it useless. Now it is.
As much as I dislike his GNU/Linux rants...
If they're referring to anything other than the kernel as Linux, then I think it's time to see if the Linux trademark is still enforcable. Or force them to make a public retraction of their statements about using Linux. (Which would admittedly be one form of enforcing the mark.)
I'm not sure exactly how this portion of trademark law works, but is the Linux trademark still enforcable despite the fact that Linus has set relatively relaxed usage terms? (i.e. The terms are lax, but they ARE clear, so any violation of those terms constitutes an enforcable violation of the trademark?)
Does anyone have a pointer to the status/licensing terms for the Linux trademark?
a) Virges are dog-slow compared to any other 3D chipset. Even ATI can consistently beat them.
b) Virges have had a long-lasting habit of misreporting PCI memory usage. This requires anyone using a 3Dfx or Bt848 tuner to run all sorts of workarounds. I think other memory-mapped cards may be affected, too.
Yeah, but this is just the opposite. Almost surely, most of Diamond's quality video products will disappear. S3 is digging themselves deeper into a hole, and REALLY screwing Diamond. Diamond has always had a good rep for high-performance 3D cards. How is this possible when you're owned by S3, one of the worst chipset vendors in the world? Not only are they anemic, but they're buggy. (Causing no end of troubles for 3Dfx and Bt848 TV tuner users.)
Matrox refuses to release the specs to their triangle setup engine, which is a key portion of the card for decent performance.
NVidia has released a full-blown GPLed driver. Instead of releasing docs, they actually went to the effort of writing a driver.
And don't forget that Matrox doesn't give a damn about OpenGL gamers under Windows either.
If Matrox hasn't released the specs for the G400's triangle setup engine (They never did for the G200), this is just a marketing ploy. Buy a TNT.
By releasing already-written GPLed drivers, NVidia jumped to the top of the pack. Esp. since they actually have decent Windows drivers if there are any games you still need to reboot for.
Short of releasing a faster card (Is the G400 faster than the TNT2?) AND releasing full specs for the card, Matrox is dead in the water.
(Note: Not long ago I was a Matrox fan and an NVidia hater. Then Matrox kept on slipping on drivers, and I got annoyed.)
With "standard" hardware, the peak is 56k.
:(
With "exotic" hardware, the upper limit is 230-400Kbps and still be packet-based.
There's a 10 GHz point-to-point system described in the '95 ARRL Handbook and probably later editions that does 2 Mbps, and with some modifications, can do full 10M Ethernet, and it was designed to have the AUI pinout. (Unfortunately, you need to push the demodulator chip beyond specs to run at 10M, and you need a REALLY good Gunnplexer with electronic tuning. Sorry, no police radar surplus for you. Or me.
Such a machine exists. See the subject for the name.
It's linked to from the Beowulf site somewhere.
There are some cases where benchmarks are more valid than others.
The Linpack benchmark is one that's been around a long time, and is pretty much an agreed-upon benchmark in the computing industry.
In addition, the numbers are submitted by the USERS of the machines, not the vendors, and this makes a LOT of difference in the trustworthiness of the benchmark.
Mangling your email address to hide your real email address is legal. Anonymity is a legal right.
Just as long as you don't mangle your address to president@whitehouse.gov or malda@slashdot.org or the like. Then you're forging someone else's address, and that's illegal.
Nope. No spam, not participating in d.net. (At least, not for a while...)