They wanted to "send a message". Like a suicide attempt being a cry for help and just as ridiculous. He'll shake things up alright, probably enough that speaking Mandarin is going to be a good career move for any job more involved than Walmart greeter.
OK Mr Pedantic goalpost shifter - "Apple did not pay the tax to the Irish government that was required by EU rules" - happy now.
So when did governments influenced by extreme crony capitalism become OK?
I thought you people didn't like the idea of others being able to buy their way around the law like you get in absolute monarchies and other authoritarian systems. A get out of jail free card of others but you get screwed. Are you really cheering for that?
No, it's the EU claiming it. Did you really just jump on these thread to attempt such a pathetic distraction and wish me dead? Are things really so bad that you feel a need to bully somebody on the internet?
Oooh - the fanboys are really worked up about Apple being caught out - to the death is it? Jumping on a thread from nowhere with something like that after a complete denial of reality? How fucking pathetic. If you can lose it so badly just because of a bit of creative book-keeping from decades back by a CEO most Apple fanboys despise gets then how do you cope from day to day?
Apple was following the Irish taxation rules and did not break any laws
False - hence the ruling that they did not follow Irish taxation rules.
I really do not understand why you are doing this. Is it a fanboy thing and Apple can do no evil even though it was set up way back in the Sculley days?
Let's start a ballot initiative to either allow or ban Candy Crush Saga.
In my state there are normally a lot of "informal" votes - blank or messed up in some way. I'm not sure of the percentage but it's usually a few percent. We had a vote on daylight saving time. There was 51% against, 49% for and less than half a percent of "informal" votes. People actually had something they wanted to vote on that time. Sometimes compulsory voting actually works (compelled by the risk of a trivial fine where I live).
Don't just look at the graph - learn what it represents. I once did some contract work at a steelworks with fantastic productivity numbers yet a year later they went broke. What mattered was not selling at a loss instead of a rubbery figure that neglected most inputs and outputs.
A good way to boost such false metrics is to sack all product development, testing and maintainance staff while not training replacements for production staff. The numbers look utterly fantastic until reality sets in and other companies who did not cut eat your lunch.
I suggest looking at inputs and outputs instead of deliberately distracting highly massaged numbers. Compare sales over years adjusted for inflation and go back to before 2008 to see the reality of a slow climb out of a deep hole instead of the wonderful thing people wish to trick you into believing.
Yes, he'll cut them a deal that nobody else can get. Crony capitalism. Hillary (yes she's old news) was accused of the same thing by Trump, and while he may have been correct this is far more extreme than others running the USA have done for a very long time (and far more than Hillary was likely to do).
It may sound good initially but in hindsight you'll see that it's only good for the cronies. If you don't have what it takes to do a deal with Trump expect to be collatoral damage when his deals with others take things away from you.
"Cupertino-based Apple now has about 25,000 employees
In the early 1990s I did some contract work for second string steelworks that employed that many people in one small city. The same company had a larger steelworks in another state. All I'm saying is that Apple is not the major employer that is being suggested.
I think a lot of people have a fairly exaggerated view of what the President of the United States can do
I saw that in a big way with Obama. People expected some radical with the power no English King has had since King John instead of a lawyer working slowly through established processes. Trump would like to bring those days of King John back (the real thing who left people locked up to starve not the Disney version). He may make some progress that way but if he follows the rules he won't get far. He's not going to follow the rules but others who do may get in his way from time to time.
It will take a special deal for Apple that others cannot get. Welcome to the world of crony capitalism. It's the way Putin does things so it must be the choice of a "strong" leader.
Why exactly would they put these plants there rather than New England or the West Coast?
The good old pork barrel - it makes things huuuge like an exploding space shuttle (the o-rings were to link parts spread out to different states for political influence reasons).
Could you please rephrase that in English for those of us who are not on coke and don't get the "doe eyes" wierdness and other bits that may as well be Kiss lyrics.
To hijack a the old ipod meme:
Less votes than Romney. Lame.
So few people did their duty as citizens and bothered to vote. Democracy - use it or lose it. If everyone who could vote voted there would be room for a third party instead of the loudest clown versus the one best at playing political insider games.
The real question to ask is why he is saying such a thing when it lies so far outside of the bounds of reality. It's going to be interesting, but not in a good way.
China is quickly automating a lot of the factory jobs because Americans whine when Foxconn workers kill themselves
No they are doing it to save costs. They don't care about such whining.
I don't know how many Kickstarters I've watched fail because they did everything in China and didn't have a good translator.
I've seen that happen with so many business ventures that it almost looks like some sort of deliberate money laundering pattern instead of the stupidity that it turns out to be. The classic was a major Telco that bought a Chinese ringtone company for quite a few million and found that the only "assets" were a few gigabytes of illegally downloaded mp3 files and an old Sun machine as a web server.
How many people do you know that eat gluten-free foods because they suffer from celiac disease
Two. As for the fad, it's made life easier for them and it's opened my eyes a bit to some strange aspects of typical processed food. WTF are cornflakes not gluten free? Corn doesn't have gluten. The original flakes made by Kellog didn't have gluten. There's so much extra filler in just about everything. I eat plenty of gluten (it's good for nearly everyone) but I can see how hard it is for those who can not to avoid it up until recently.
Actually it could. Apple pays every dollar of tax it is required to by law
A court in the EU recently ruled that it has not been doing so. I have no idea how you managed to miss that and suggest you pay some more attention to major news items. Please correct the fallacy that you have been spreading. I am going to assume that you are just poorly informed and not deliberately telling lies that grossly insult the intelligence of every reader here. You can't possibly be that much of an utter prick can you?
Cook will have Trump for breakfast. Expect a "deal" to be hammered out where Apple pays even less tax than it does now in exchange for providing a tiny handfull of jobs - just like they did in Ireland except probably even more of a screwover.
Other than Libya having a higher GDP than any of them
All of it going into the pockets of a dictator and his cronies hence an economy in far poorer shape than South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya. Instead of deliberate myopia try looking at more than one number and you may get a better idea of what is going on.
You drunk? Who said anything about Hillary?
The "Hillary should have left Libya alone" meme is being propagated in this case - give it a rest - it's getting old. In the same situation Powell, Rice or whoever would have acted the same way and aided those who were acting against someone who has been an enemy of the USA for decades (but he's been tolerated due to oil industry lobbying).
They acted too quickly and when the US came to their aid as well they knew they couldn't win that one
Thanks to assurances from Alexander Haig and an interpretation of the "Rio Pact" treaty the Argentinians were pretty sure that the US would keep out of it. They didn't expect Weinberger and others to oppose Haig. There have been news reports over the years of Argentina having a lot of US military satellite data of the Falklands before the invasion and it was suggested that it was provided freely to the Argentinian Junta by a US intelligence agency, but I must say before the invasion it may have seemed of little value so may have been honest intelligence sharing instead of overt assistance.
and when the US came to their aid
I do not know if you meant it that way but it could be interpreted as deploying forces (which did not happen) instead of some logisitical support (which did). A news article in the Wall Street Journal put it this way:
President Reagan presided over this discussion with a kind of calm detachment. He had outlined a fairly clear U.S. position from the start of the crisis: neutrality over which country had sovereignty over the Falklands but strong opposition to settling the question by military aggression. He stuck to it thereafter.
By "their own" you mean Stephen Elop? He worked for Microsoft, before, after and it very much appears during the deliberate destruction of Nokia. Now he's busy at Australia's Telstra getting them to get rid of as much IBM or other vendor stuff they have and turn to Microsoft instead. Apparently he's on Telstra's payroll but it still working in the interests of Microsoft.
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They wanted to "send a message". Like a suicide attempt being a cry for help and just as ridiculous.
He'll shake things up alright, probably enough that speaking Mandarin is going to be a good career move for any job more involved than Walmart greeter.
OK Mr Pedantic goalpost shifter - "Apple did not pay the tax to the Irish government that was required by EU rules" - happy now.
So when did governments influenced by extreme crony capitalism become OK?
I thought you people didn't like the idea of others being able to buy their way around the law like you get in absolute monarchies and other authoritarian systems. A get out of jail free card of others but you get screwed. Are you really cheering for that?
No, it's the EU claiming it.
Did you really just jump on these thread to attempt such a pathetic distraction and wish me dead? Are things really so bad that you feel a need to bully somebody on the internet?
Oooh - the fanboys are really worked up about Apple being caught out - to the death is it? Jumping on a thread from nowhere with something like that after a complete denial of reality?
How fucking pathetic. If you can lose it so badly just because of a bit of creative book-keeping from decades back by a CEO most Apple fanboys despise gets then how do you cope from day to day?
False - hence the ruling that they did not follow Irish taxation rules.
I really do not understand why you are doing this. Is it a fanboy thing and Apple can do no evil even though it was set up way back in the Sculley days?
Incorrect.
Please look up the topic and try again.
In my state there are normally a lot of "informal" votes - blank or messed up in some way. I'm not sure of the percentage but it's usually a few percent.
We had a vote on daylight saving time. There was 51% against, 49% for and less than half a percent of "informal" votes. People actually had something they wanted to vote on that time. Sometimes compulsory voting actually works (compelled by the risk of a trivial fine where I live).
Don't just look at the graph - learn what it represents.
I once did some contract work at a steelworks with fantastic productivity numbers yet a year later they went broke. What mattered was not selling at a loss instead of a rubbery figure that neglected most inputs and outputs.
A good way to boost such false metrics is to sack all product development, testing and maintainance staff while not training replacements for production staff. The numbers look utterly fantastic until reality sets in and other companies who did not cut eat your lunch.
I suggest looking at inputs and outputs instead of deliberately distracting highly massaged numbers. Compare sales over years adjusted for inflation and go back to before 2008 to see the reality of a slow climb out of a deep hole instead of the wonderful thing people wish to trick you into believing.
Yes, he'll cut them a deal that nobody else can get.
Crony capitalism.
Hillary (yes she's old news) was accused of the same thing by Trump, and while he may have been correct this is far more extreme than others running the USA have done for a very long time (and far more than Hillary was likely to do).
It may sound good initially but in hindsight you'll see that it's only good for the cronies. If you don't have what it takes to do a deal with Trump expect to be collatoral damage when his deals with others take things away from you.
In the early 1990s I did some contract work for second string steelworks that employed that many people in one small city. The same company had a larger steelworks in another state.
All I'm saying is that Apple is not the major employer that is being suggested.
I saw that in a big way with Obama. People expected some radical with the power no English King has had since King John instead of a lawyer working slowly through established processes. Trump would like to bring those days of King John back (the real thing who left people locked up to starve not the Disney version). He may make some progress that way but if he follows the rules he won't get far.
He's not going to follow the rules but others who do may get in his way from time to time.
Isn't that the sort of shit we accused Castro of?
Which is the attainable part?
The battery.
It will take a special deal for Apple that others cannot get.
Welcome to the world of crony capitalism. It's the way Putin does things so it must be the choice of a "strong" leader.
The good old pork barrel - it makes things huuuge like an exploding space shuttle (the o-rings were to link parts spread out to different states for political influence reasons).
Could you please rephrase that in English for those of us who are not on coke and don't get the "doe eyes" wierdness and other bits that may as well be Kiss lyrics.
To hijack a the old ipod meme:
Less votes than Romney. Lame.
So few people did their duty as citizens and bothered to vote.
Democracy - use it or lose it. If everyone who could vote voted there would be room for a third party instead of the loudest clown versus the one best at playing political insider games.
The real question to ask is why he is saying such a thing when it lies so far outside of the bounds of reality.
It's going to be interesting, but not in a good way.
No they are doing it to save costs. They don't care about such whining.
I've seen that happen with so many business ventures that it almost looks like some sort of deliberate money laundering pattern instead of the stupidity that it turns out to be. The classic was a major Telco that bought a Chinese ringtone company for quite a few million and found that the only "assets" were a few gigabytes of illegally downloaded mp3 files and an old Sun machine as a web server.
Two.
As for the fad, it's made life easier for them and it's opened my eyes a bit to some strange aspects of typical processed food. WTF are cornflakes not gluten free? Corn doesn't have gluten. The original flakes made by Kellog didn't have gluten. There's so much extra filler in just about everything. I eat plenty of gluten (it's good for nearly everyone) but I can see how hard it is for those who can not to avoid it up until recently.
A court in the EU recently ruled that it has not been doing so. I have no idea how you managed to miss that and suggest you pay some more attention to major news items. Please correct the fallacy that you have been spreading. I am going to assume that you are just poorly informed and not deliberately telling lies that grossly insult the intelligence of every reader here. You can't possibly be that much of an utter prick can you?
Cook will have Trump for breakfast. Expect a "deal" to be hammered out where Apple pays even less tax than it does now in exchange for providing a tiny handfull of jobs - just like they did in Ireland except probably even more of a screwover.
All of it going into the pockets of a dictator and his cronies hence an economy in far poorer shape than South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya.
Instead of deliberate myopia try looking at more than one number and you may get a better idea of what is going on.
The "Hillary should have left Libya alone" meme is being propagated in this case - give it a rest - it's getting old. In the same situation Powell, Rice or whoever would have acted the same way and aided those who were acting against someone who has been an enemy of the USA for decades (but he's been tolerated due to oil industry lobbying).
Thanks to assurances from Alexander Haig and an interpretation of the "Rio Pact" treaty the Argentinians were pretty sure that the US would keep out of it. They didn't expect Weinberger and others to oppose Haig. There have been news reports over the years of Argentina having a lot of US military satellite data of the Falklands before the invasion and it was suggested that it was provided freely to the Argentinian Junta by a US intelligence agency, but I must say before the invasion it may have seemed of little value so may have been honest intelligence sharing instead of overt assistance.
I do not know if you meant it that way but it could be interpreted as deploying forces (which did not happen) instead of some logisitical support (which did). A news article in the Wall Street Journal put it this way:
By "their own" you mean Stephen Elop? He worked for Microsoft, before, after and it very much appears during the deliberate destruction of Nokia. Now he's busy at Australia's Telstra getting them to get rid of as much IBM or other vendor stuff they have and turn to Microsoft instead. Apparently he's on Telstra's payroll but it still working in the interests of Microsoft.