Considering the question they are asking and events in the past such as Lysenkoism - not at all. It's an invitation to opportunists, people with ethics need not apply. It's goal driven work where the goal is an obvious fiction and not just a harmless bit of out of the box thinking to assist in defining the box.
My question was "please name a psuedoscience that does something useful and please give an example of one of those useful things it does" and you gave me a link about space exploration! Now that is being intentionally thick if I've ever seen it. I'm not joking so please do not joke around like that.
He is attacking the actions of the person. I know it's all sensitive, touchy/feelly and new age to pretend that an attack on an action carried out on a person is an attack on the person directly, but to be frank it's a very juvenile way of looking at things that we really should grow out of.
Stop thinking. You reduce the collective intelligence level.
OK then - think for me - please name a psuedoscience that does something useful and please give an example of one of those useful things it does. I have not been able to think of one.
I just cannot see the benefit to society from giving money to scammers. It just encourages them to scam others in larger scams.
If it's done as a sideshow I very much doubt there would be incidental benefits. Current psuedoscience doesn't seem to have given us anything. You may be thinking of people like Kellog but he was trying to do real science while these folks are just trying to separate fools and their money.
Consider cane sugar and steel as two examples where trade protectionism had unintended consequences. Car manufacturing moved to where the steel was cheaper and the protected steel industry had no reason to innovate so is now beaten on both price and quality by everyone this side of Albania.
TPP is a backdoor way to try to cage in China with trade by giving sweeteners to other countries. Everything else in it is window dressing or malware designed to fuck up copyright in other places as badly as in the USA. She (and a very long list of others both R and D) loved it for that reason. That's the story behind it. Personally I think the reason behind it is stupid, the implementation relies on China going to sleep for a decade and the sweeteners ignore what effects they are going to have at home while still not being enough to stop those other countries trading more with China. The Chinese must be laughing that we are prepared to hurt ourselves so much to impotently swing in the air near China when there isn't even a fight on.
See "washington senators, representatives and similarly powerful bureacratic positions" for details. Everyone after Carter has had to be "too good to be true" ever since he lost due to actually giving people bad news. A lot of people would love to be working instead of unemployed today in an economy as "bad" as the one he told the truth about. Be honest in politics and everybody dumps on you, even rabbits attack you. Sucks doesn't it? So we get liars. We get the little sugar coated ones or the big steaming dumps of lies that Trump keeps leaving around for us to step in.
I'm not so keen on Princes and Kings so think of it something other than a tragedy. That another Clinton is having a go is a similar aristocracy problem to a second Bush, but at least she (and just about everyone in both parties) is better than that useless vacationing little Prince who thought he was God's own representative and that anything could be done in the name of fighting evil. We can thank God that he was too lazy to do as much damage as a more active deluded person could do, but even then he made a mess.
Correct. That's why I changed my party registration. Moderate conservatives are no longer welcomed in the Republican Party.
I'm starting to think that Reagan would be too far to the left to be welcomed in the Republican Party now. Nixon is definitely out with that clean air policy and an attempt to deal with healthcare that would have been to the left of what Obama managed to do.
Sword Art Online eventually goes there in the novels. Via modern magic (handwaving about quantum computers is a nice FTL style plot device) a world full of intelligences based on scans of babies is simulated in accelerated time to try to develop full "bottom up" artificial intelligence over simulated generations. The entities are guided by people dropping into the simulation. Some of the entities hear the phrase "system command" (in a different language to the one they use), start using it, and so hack the simulation in little ways, until one of them says "system command list system commands" then pretty well owns most of the simulated world.
Greg Egan has of course gone there in spades. His novel Diaspora has a culture of uploaded human intelligences being simulated on spacecraft that are going out into the real universe. Among other things they meet a biological device that is simulating alien intelligences inside. The human intelligences can't directly communicate with anything so alien so they alter themselves to be more like the aliens but still able to communicate, then a bit more on the next version, then more until there is a long chain of entities to translate messages. That's late in the book, early in the book the uploaded intelligences are seriously lagging behind reality in the way you suggested. In some of his other novels he has similar uploaded intelligences being "teleported" around the galaxy as encoded data at lightspeed and at endpoints either run on computer or installed into constructed bodies.
I doubt it. Useful stuff is boring compared with the show Uri Geller and other confidence tricksters can put on. I picked Geller because he was paid tens of thousands to prospect for minerals on the opposite side of the world. He apparently did some impressive hand waving over a map while having an expression as if he was constipated.
Start doing stuff like working out what is in a pile of herbs that people think may do something and then you are doing real science and not psuedoscience. Pretty well by definition psuedoscience is useless. Talking to lonely people can be useful, even if it's shit about crystal power, but that's not psuedoscience it's talking to people.
I suppose that's one thing out of the many changes that can't be blamed so easily then. The boys club where the members may as well be clones is something I have seen most in some places that spectacularly imploded around 2000 due to a "tight focus" - as in they had big ideas but not enough spread of skills to actually get shit done. Some of those places were like locker rooms full of whiny teenage virgins who felt entitled to a supermodel. I made sure my girlfriend of the time never went near those guys (no princess, she was in road construction) and can see how places like those would be incredibly hostile to anyone female, black or just different to them. Anyway I've certainly noticed the trend and a lot of statistics have been published. As a profession we are driving the women away more with each year. Monocultures really suck when you are doing things for entire populations and can lead to making what can look like newbie mistakes. Having a widespread group can prevent your product having a name that is slang for something very bad, or a similar failure that looks obvious to others.
I've got no idea how you've managed to get that out of this situation. It appears to me as if you have it completely backwards and that "different perspective" appears to be very contrived. We've got Trump saying what is on his mind no matter who he offends all over the media (among many others) and you think Linus has lost it?
Too bad that the vendors that you have to deal with is so slow moving
Apparently RHEL7 came out on 10 June 2014.
And it should be trivial for them
They say otherwise but they are also dependent upon a vendor of a licencing tool to port their software to RHEL7. It's possible that the actual software I want to run works in the environment but the tool designed to stop me running the software without a valid licence does not.
Perhaps you are allowed to post these scripts somewhere
Some of it being licence management stuff I have been warned that messing with it will result in loss of licences and summoning of lawyers. Isn't closed source software fun?
However, what does RHEL 7 give me anyway apart from a flaky init system with incredibly-verbose-commands-to-do-even-very-trivial-things and logging that is utterly useless BY DESIGN if the system doesn't come up properly? SystemD mostly appears to me to be an exercise in fixing a "not invented here" problem by a bunch who don't actually understand the system they are trying to replace at sometimes even a newbie level. Things like killing users background jobs when they close a shell session is not the sort of thing an init system should be touching even if someone thinks such a change in behaviour is a good idea (instead of an incredibly fucking stupid one that will really fuck with scientific computing).
Yes but sometimes if something is important enough you need to be very direct and blunt. For one personal example, when speaking to welders who were trying to get out of redoing some work that was faulty to the point of being life threatening when the machine was put back in service they kept pushing back with evasions and excuses until they were addressed very directly with copious amounts of profanity. While I would not speak to students in that way there are situations where it "removes the sand" by being very direct instead of what you have suggested. "The component has a crack so wide and deep that a ruler can be inserted 35mm, please address this risk to safety" sometimes seems to invite pushback while "it's fucked, fix it before it kills someone" does not.
Usually it's because the critic (Linus in this case) isn't able to seperate their own emotions from their criticisms of an idea
Seriously? You actually wrote that? Did you read the post above at all or just "skim" and reply after seeing a few key words? I was writing about THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM of people who read the criticisms of an idea mistaking it for a personal attack, for extra laughs in this case they are mistaking it for an attack on a person that is not them.
Unfortunately we all do it to some extent
Not as such
however dealing with volatile people that can't control their emotions
Now that is a bit of a stretch. It's not as is we get a "Linus was angry" story every year.
I hate theaters. The people who have to use their phones, the ones chatting, the children jumping around and making noise, or the laser pointers
My mother said close to the same thing and wouldn't go plus she hates the smoking and the canvas seats. As time has moved on lot of cinemas are free of phone noise, people chatting etc, just like things changed with smoking.
The popcorn and drink will still set you back more than the movie ticket if you let it though.
I do excuse it. He is attacking the mistake of the person and not the person. Taking such stuff personally is ridiculous, but I suppose it does give people something to talk about with something that's almost a non-issue.
I suggest you actually try it with something and you will see that you will have to either greatly modify either the environment or the script unless the script is incredibly trivial. Then consider that I'm referring to closed source software where I don't really understand what the scripts are doing and have no way to find out other than hoping a support person will relay messages from me back and forth to one of the software developers.
It's entirely impractical unless it's for something you've done yourself or something that is very well documented. My point here is the vendors have not got it going with systemD. If it's so trivial why do they mandate running on RedHat6 or similar for their 2016 release? It's not just libraries since you can drag all the libraries from RedHat6 into RedHat7 without any drama if you want to run older applications.
My post that mentioned the 1980s is above. That's back when there were almost no female engineering students at the university I attended (nine out of more than three hundred first year students) and slightly more than 50% female students in the first year computer science subjects. Data entry and even typists were still a big thing back then but those women I mentioned were going on to a degree course with C programming, operating system design and the works. It's really funny that some of the young men today who are doing what grandpa would call "womens work" keep going on about how women are not suitable for the profession.
Maybe unlike men, women noticed that there's way more money to be made in medicine, pharmacy and biotech?
That's been discussed in many places (especially here) at length over the years and IMHO is very unlikely to be the cause especially since the decline coincided with increased opportunites to make money in I.T. I think we've fucked up in a variety of different ways. One of many examples - the "permanent crunch time" attitude in many places is pretty hostile to anyone who wants something in life outside of work, and while medicine has that to an even greater extent it is almost always limited to doctors in their first couple of years. In I.T. we expect allnighters from long serving staff sometimes due to nothing more than far too common scheduling fuckups.
What is incredibly obvious is that it has gone from a field where there were once around the same number of women to men to an almost absolute sausage fest while most other professions have gone the other way. It's pretty damned close to a " boys club with a no-girls-allowed sign on the front door" in a lot of places which is very strange.
As a profession we must have really fucked something up very badly to drive all those women away.
Calling a lot of floating bits of garbage an island is indeed a lie, but the lie is coming from the person framing it this way for a "goalpost shift" and not those actually talking about water dense with garbage. I can see why the poster with the goalpost shift was far too ashamed of their action to even post under a username.
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Considering the question they are asking and events in the past such as Lysenkoism - not at all. It's an invitation to opportunists, people with ethics need not apply. It's goal driven work where the goal is an obvious fiction and not just a harmless bit of out of the box thinking to assist in defining the box.
My question was "please name a psuedoscience that does something useful and please give an example of one of those useful things it does" and you gave me a link about space exploration! Now that is being intentionally thick if I've ever seen it. I'm not joking so please do not joke around like that.
He is attacking the actions of the person.
I know it's all sensitive, touchy/feelly and new age to pretend that an attack on an action carried out on a person is an attack on the person directly, but to be frank it's a very juvenile way of looking at things that we really should grow out of.
Stop thinking. You reduce the collective intelligence level.
OK then - think for me - please name a psuedoscience that does something useful and please give an example of one of those useful things it does.
I have not been able to think of one.
I just cannot see the benefit to society from giving money to scammers. It just encourages them to scam others in larger scams.
If it's done as a sideshow I very much doubt there would be incidental benefits. Current psuedoscience doesn't seem to have given us anything.
You may be thinking of people like Kellog but he was trying to do real science while these folks are just trying to separate fools and their money.
Consider cane sugar and steel as two examples where trade protectionism had unintended consequences. Car manufacturing moved to where the steel was cheaper and the protected steel industry had no reason to innovate so is now beaten on both price and quality by everyone this side of Albania.
TPP is a backdoor way to try to cage in China with trade by giving sweeteners to other countries. Everything else in it is window dressing or malware designed to fuck up copyright in other places as badly as in the USA. She (and a very long list of others both R and D) loved it for that reason.
That's the story behind it.
Personally I think the reason behind it is stupid, the implementation relies on China going to sleep for a decade and the sweeteners ignore what effects they are going to have at home while still not being enough to stop those other countries trading more with China.
The Chinese must be laughing that we are prepared to hurt ourselves so much to impotently swing in the air near China when there isn't even a fight on.
See "washington senators, representatives and similarly powerful bureacratic positions" for details.
Everyone after Carter has had to be "too good to be true" ever since he lost due to actually giving people bad news. A lot of people would love to be working instead of unemployed today in an economy as "bad" as the one he told the truth about. Be honest in politics and everybody dumps on you, even rabbits attack you.
Sucks doesn't it?
So we get liars. We get the little sugar coated ones or the big steaming dumps of lies that Trump keeps leaving around for us to step in.
He's proved it folks!
He does live in a totally different reality to the rest of us!
You win JustNiz - pity your reality is so shitty though.
Maybe, but who has done those jobs well this side of the Reagan administration?
I'm not so keen on Princes and Kings so think of it something other than a tragedy.
That another Clinton is having a go is a similar aristocracy problem to a second Bush, but at least she (and just about everyone in both parties) is better than that useless vacationing little Prince who thought he was God's own representative and that anything could be done in the name of fighting evil. We can thank God that he was too lazy to do as much damage as a more active deluded person could do, but even then he made a mess.
I'm starting to think that Reagan would be too far to the left to be welcomed in the Republican Party now. Nixon is definitely out with that clean air policy and an attempt to deal with healthcare that would have been to the left of what Obama managed to do.
Sword Art Online eventually goes there in the novels.
Via modern magic (handwaving about quantum computers is a nice FTL style plot device) a world full of intelligences based on scans of babies is simulated in accelerated time to try to develop full "bottom up" artificial intelligence over simulated generations. The entities are guided by people dropping into the simulation. Some of the entities hear the phrase "system command" (in a different language to the one they use), start using it, and so hack the simulation in little ways, until one of them says "system command list system commands" then pretty well owns most of the simulated world.
Greg Egan has of course gone there in spades.
His novel Diaspora has a culture of uploaded human intelligences being simulated on spacecraft that are going out into the real universe. Among other things they meet a biological device that is simulating alien intelligences inside. The human intelligences can't directly communicate with anything so alien so they alter themselves to be more like the aliens but still able to communicate, then a bit more on the next version, then more until there is a long chain of entities to translate messages.
That's late in the book, early in the book the uploaded intelligences are seriously lagging behind reality in the way you suggested.
In some of his other novels he has similar uploaded intelligences being "teleported" around the galaxy as encoded data at lightspeed and at endpoints either run on computer or installed into constructed bodies.
I doubt it.
Useful stuff is boring compared with the show Uri Geller and other confidence tricksters can put on.
I picked Geller because he was paid tens of thousands to prospect for minerals on the opposite side of the world. He apparently did some impressive hand waving over a map while having an expression as if he was constipated.
Start doing stuff like working out what is in a pile of herbs that people think may do something and then you are doing real science and not psuedoscience. Pretty well by definition psuedoscience is useless. Talking to lonely people can be useful, even if it's shit about crystal power, but that's not psuedoscience it's talking to people.
I suppose that's one thing out of the many changes that can't be blamed so easily then.
The boys club where the members may as well be clones is something I have seen most in some places that spectacularly imploded around 2000 due to a "tight focus" - as in they had big ideas but not enough spread of skills to actually get shit done. Some of those places were like locker rooms full of whiny teenage virgins who felt entitled to a supermodel. I made sure my girlfriend of the time never went near those guys (no princess, she was in road construction) and can see how places like those would be incredibly hostile to anyone female, black or just different to them.
Anyway I've certainly noticed the trend and a lot of statistics have been published. As a profession we are driving the women away more with each year. Monocultures really suck when you are doing things for entire populations and can lead to making what can look like newbie mistakes. Having a widespread group can prevent your product having a name that is slang for something very bad, or a similar failure that looks obvious to others.
I've got no idea how you've managed to get that out of this situation. It appears to me as if you have it completely backwards and that "different perspective" appears to be very contrived.
We've got Trump saying what is on his mind no matter who he offends all over the media (among many others) and you think Linus has lost it?
Apparently RHEL7 came out on 10 June 2014.
They say otherwise but they are also dependent upon a vendor of a licencing tool to port their software to RHEL7. It's possible that the actual software I want to run works in the environment but the tool designed to stop me running the software without a valid licence does not.
Some of it being licence management stuff I have been warned that messing with it will result in loss of licences and summoning of lawyers.
Isn't closed source software fun?
However, what does RHEL 7 give me anyway apart from a flaky init system with incredibly-verbose-commands-to-do-even-very-trivial-things and logging that is utterly useless BY DESIGN if the system doesn't come up properly? SystemD mostly appears to me to be an exercise in fixing a "not invented here" problem by a bunch who don't actually understand the system they are trying to replace at sometimes even a newbie level. Things like killing users background jobs when they close a shell session is not the sort of thing an init system should be touching even if someone thinks such a change in behaviour is a good idea (instead of an incredibly fucking stupid one that will really fuck with scientific computing).
Yes but sometimes if something is important enough you need to be very direct and blunt.
For one personal example, when speaking to welders who were trying to get out of redoing some work that was faulty to the point of being life threatening when the machine was put back in service they kept pushing back with evasions and excuses until they were addressed very directly with copious amounts of profanity. While I would not speak to students in that way there are situations where it "removes the sand" by being very direct instead of what you have suggested.
"The component has a crack so wide and deep that a ruler can be inserted 35mm, please address this risk to safety" sometimes seems to invite pushback while "it's fucked, fix it before it kills someone" does not.
Seriously?
You actually wrote that?
Did you read the post above at all or just "skim" and reply after seeing a few key words?
I was writing about THE EXACT OPPOSITE PROBLEM of people who read the criticisms of an idea mistaking it for a personal attack, for extra laughs in this case they are mistaking it for an attack on a person that is not them.
Not as such
Now that is a bit of a stretch. It's not as is we get a "Linus was angry" story every year.
My mother said close to the same thing and wouldn't go plus she hates the smoking and the canvas seats.
As time has moved on lot of cinemas are free of phone noise, people chatting etc, just like things changed with smoking.
The popcorn and drink will still set you back more than the movie ticket if you let it though.
I do excuse it.
He is attacking the mistake of the person and not the person.
Taking such stuff personally is ridiculous, but I suppose it does give people something to talk about with something that's almost a non-issue.
I suggest you actually try it with something and you will see that you will have to either greatly modify either the environment or the script unless the script is incredibly trivial.
Then consider that I'm referring to closed source software where I don't really understand what the scripts are doing and have no way to find out other than hoping a support person will relay messages from me back and forth to one of the software developers.
It's entirely impractical unless it's for something you've done yourself or something that is very well documented.
My point here is the vendors have not got it going with systemD.
If it's so trivial why do they mandate running on RedHat6 or similar for their 2016 release?
It's not just libraries since you can drag all the libraries from RedHat6 into RedHat7 without any drama if you want to run older applications.
That's back when there were almost no female engineering students at the university I attended (nine out of more than three hundred first year students) and slightly more than 50% female students in the first year computer science subjects. Data entry and even typists were still a big thing back then but those women I mentioned were going on to a degree course with C programming, operating system design and the works.
It's really funny that some of the young men today who are doing what grandpa would call "womens work" keep going on about how women are not suitable for the profession.
That's been discussed in many places (especially here) at length over the years and IMHO is very unlikely to be the cause especially since the decline coincided with increased opportunites to make money in I.T.
I think we've fucked up in a variety of different ways. One of many examples - the "permanent crunch time" attitude in many places is pretty hostile to anyone who wants something in life outside of work, and while medicine has that to an even greater extent it is almost always limited to doctors in their first couple of years. In I.T. we expect allnighters from long serving staff sometimes due to nothing more than far too common scheduling fuckups.
What is incredibly obvious is that it has gone from a field where there were once around the same number of women to men to an almost absolute sausage fest while most other professions have gone the other way. It's pretty damned close to a " boys club with a no-girls-allowed sign on the front door" in a lot of places which is very strange.
As a profession we must have really fucked something up very badly to drive all those women away.
Calling a lot of floating bits of garbage an island is indeed a lie, but the lie is coming from the person framing it this way for a "goalpost shift" and not those actually talking about water dense with garbage.
I can see why the poster with the goalpost shift was far too ashamed of their action to even post under a username.