While progress on efficiency is nice, the important criteria is watts/$, not watts/m^2. We have plenty of space on rooftops, over parking lots, and in deserts. But we need to continue to bring down the cost.
That's where dirt cheap big silicon wafers come in. This stuff is for satellites and other situations where surface area of mass is at a premium and you want to get as much energy out of the photons that hit your available surface as you can.
And why would you run some version of Windows instead of using a stripped-down purpose-built operating system?
MS marketing people were very active in the area a few years ago so they "won" the market. Add in place like Diebold with so many political and other connections that pull them in directions other than aiming for an effective product.
Some places cut corners and run the retail XP. Insane on so many levels especially since dedicated lines to ATMs are mostly a thing of the past now. The funny thing is this stuff crept in because security issues of the software were dismissed due to dedicated lines and being able to treat the ATMs as if they were on a well firewalled private LAN.
implying that sales of the N900 somehow were evidence that there was widespread demand for MeeGo
I was addressing a potential and not an actual thing as you are very well aware so please stop acting like an idiot. I this some sort of stupid high school debate tactic to try to get me angry? It's not the place for that, this is no debate, it is a situation where on person is aware of an issue and another is a fanboy needlessly filling the site with noise to attempt to justify the actions of Microsoft vs Nokia.
so if the web site does not render well then something is seriously wrong - either an ancient version of Internet Explorer, other software not up to the task, or an incredibly badly designed website
Long sentence I know, but if you make it to the end it addresses your issue. We used to give kids "Moby Dick" to read so that they could cope with more than short bullet points but I'm not sure where things stand now.
There was never a public release of a MeeGo device. I wanted one - Nokia would not sell me one of the limited number of developer units. Pretty obvious from that why "nobody gave a shit about MeeGo in 2010 aside from some fanboys" - nobody else had even heard of that unreleased product!
First, the N900 [wikipedia.org] sold with Maemo, not MeeGo
Hence the words, which you even quoted "the newer device with MeeGo was an incremental improvement".
Why bother replying if you have got things that messed up?
Nokia was already fading [statista.com] in the smartphone business
Goalpost shift detected. I wrote "more mobile telephones than any other company in the world" which is correct. Changing goalposts to a subset just so you have something to argue about would normally be considered utterly pathetic.
Why bother typing all of that out when it has little or no relationship to my earlier post? Writing "fact is" in front of opinions doesn't make them reality either. I did not pretend my opinion that it could have taken off as a platform was reality, please have the decency of not trying to browbeat reader by pretending your opinions are "facts".
Parked? It's a good way to inform kids about both freefall and how there is friction in low earth orbit. It drops down frequently and needs a boost up frequently. Surely you are old enough to remember shuttle launches if not Apollo so should know better.
Oh fuck no! First Sol Trujillo and now that prick. Do you Americans think that just because we have crocs, snakes, stingrays, crocs, spiders, crocs and sharks that your worst vermin should be sent to Australia?
The N900 sold all available units on little more than word of mouth and the newer device with MeeGo was an incremental improvement - thus a fair assumption.
Nokia (the major backer along with Intel) was already on shaky ground by the point MeeGo became a viable product
Putting a manager from a rival in as his first ever attempt at being a CEO did that. Before Elop turned up Nokia was selling more mobile telephones than any other company in the world. It's actually amazing that MeeGo got as far as it did in those last months given how few people were working on it.
Well, to social justice types, this is a HUGE problem in need of correction
Your strawman rarely exists beyond the first year of college. Big house of cards you built on it though - why bother? Are you feeling so left out that you feel the need to yell at a bunch of angry kids?
The older versions of MS Office from back when it had a usable interface work very well on linux via WINE and Libreoffice in many ways is better than MS Office. No Outlook? Outlook not so good. There are dozens of decent cross-platform email clients out there that do not lock you in to an obfiscated and slow email storage format. I don't even want to use MS Office on machines with MS Windows - I'd rather get things done quickly with a menu than click between panes of pretty pictures until I find the correct one.
Microsoft "cloud" account - hotmail or similar. Consider how your password management is handled in Win10 and you'll get some ideas about this situation.
Disk image back-ups still won't help if you actually have to replace the machine, which was the situation we were in
With linux and all the rest you just get the new machine to pretend to be the old via MAC address or various other things. Vendors are almost always happy with the situation but you can always ask permission if you think they will not be - however the ones I've spoken to demand a yearly fee for their software so it may be different with one-off stuff with the insane idea that it "belongs to the machine" and not the purchaser.
Take a 10 year old computer running Windows XP and try to access the internet
Seamonkey works very well on those and has not abandoned 32bit WinXP like Firefox has. Remember that a lot of those machines still have superior cpu power to a mid range smartphone so if the web site does not render well then something is seriously wrong - either an ancient version of Internet Explorer, other software not up to the task, or an incredibly badly designed website
A thought you didn't have but I did because it's been rubbed in my face:
Development of commercial engineering and scientific software is slooooow. It's going to be at least a couple of years until some of the stuff in my workplace actually runs on Win10 - mainly due to copy protection shit, but if it does not run it really doesn't matter what the roadblock is and users are stuck on the old platform. I've already had to roll one machine back to Win7, fairly painless, but the user had to find some stuff to do for a morning that did not require their computer.
Staying on Windows 7 isn't really an option long term
I've got users on XP to run legacy software (they could use a VM but still on bare metal) and a win2k machine used rarely to run some VB abomination that requires two parallel port dongles so no VM for it. For as long as there are compatability problems you'll see people on older versions of MS Windows whether they like the new version or not.
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No phone towers either?
While progress on efficiency is nice, the important criteria is watts/$, not watts/m^2. We have plenty of space on rooftops, over parking lots, and in deserts. But we need to continue to bring down the cost.
That's where dirt cheap big silicon wafers come in. This stuff is for satellites and other situations where surface area of mass is at a premium and you want to get as much energy out of the photons that hit your available surface as you can.
So as you suggest it's definitely a misuse of the term used to roughly describe part of Intel's roadmap when Moore was there.
MS marketing people were very active in the area a few years ago so they "won" the market. Add in place like Diebold with so many political and other connections that pull them in directions other than aiming for an effective product.
Some places cut corners and run the retail XP.
Insane on so many levels especially since dedicated lines to ATMs are mostly a thing of the past now. The funny thing is this stuff crept in because security issues of the software were dismissed due to dedicated lines and being able to treat the ATMs as if they were on a well firewalled private LAN.
I was addressing a potential and not an actual thing as you are very well aware so please stop acting like an idiot. I this some sort of stupid high school debate tactic to try to get me angry? It's not the place for that, this is no debate, it is a situation where on person is aware of an issue and another is a fanboy needlessly filling the site with noise to attempt to justify the actions of Microsoft vs Nokia.
Long sentence I know, but if you make it to the end it addresses your issue. We used to give kids "Moby Dick" to read so that they could cope with more than short bullet points but I'm not sure where things stand now.
Then why are you wasting so much time with revisionism?
I couldn't get an N9 - stop making things up.
Use seamonkey or a recent firefox instead of IE abandonware.
There was never a public release of a MeeGo device. I wanted one - Nokia would not sell me one of the limited number of developer units. Pretty obvious from that why "nobody gave a shit about MeeGo in 2010 aside from some fanboys" - nobody else had even heard of that unreleased product!
Hence the words, which you even quoted "the newer device with MeeGo was an incremental improvement".
Why bother replying if you have got things that messed up?
Goalpost shift detected. I wrote "more mobile telephones than any other company in the world" which is correct. Changing goalposts to a subset just so you have something to argue about would normally be considered utterly pathetic.
Why bother typing all of that out when it has little or no relationship to my earlier post? Writing "fact is" in front of opinions doesn't make them reality either. I did not pretend my opinion that it could have taken off as a platform was reality, please have the decency of not trying to browbeat reader by pretending your opinions are "facts".
Crocs have standards.
Parked? It's a good way to inform kids about both freefall and how there is friction in low earth orbit. It drops down frequently and needs a boost up frequently. Surely you are old enough to remember shuttle launches if not Apollo so should know better.
Oh fuck no! First Sol Trujillo and now that prick.
Do you Americans think that just because we have crocs, snakes, stingrays, crocs, spiders, crocs and sharks that your worst vermin should be sent to Australia?
The N900 sold all available units on little more than word of mouth and the newer device with MeeGo was an incremental improvement - thus a fair assumption.
Putting a manager from a rival in as his first ever attempt at being a CEO did that. Before Elop turned up Nokia was selling more mobile telephones than any other company in the world. It's actually amazing that MeeGo got as far as it did in those last months given how few people were working on it.
Your strawman rarely exists beyond the first year of college.
Big house of cards you built on it though - why bother? Are you feeling so left out that you feel the need to yell at a bunch of angry kids?
So I'm an SJW now? Wow! It's obviously just a generic insult then.
Are you sure you didn't mean commie, nazi or a different n-word?
It's not really SF anymore when Bruce Sterling put up stuff on the net for free in the mid 1990s!
The straight white males are fine - the virgin white males who think they deserve a free supermodel slave still appear to be frustrated it appears.
WTF is it with this victimhood shit? Sorry kid but things are not playing out the way you are screeching about.
The older versions of MS Office from back when it had a usable interface work very well on linux via WINE and Libreoffice in many ways is better than MS Office. No Outlook? Outlook not so good. There are dozens of decent cross-platform email clients out there that do not lock you in to an obfiscated and slow email storage format.
I don't even want to use MS Office on machines with MS Windows - I'd rather get things done quickly with a menu than click between panes of pretty pictures until I find the correct one.
Microsoft "cloud" account - hotmail or similar. Consider how your password management is handled in Win10 and you'll get some ideas about this situation.
With linux and all the rest you just get the new machine to pretend to be the old via MAC address or various other things. Vendors are almost always happy with the situation but you can always ask permission if you think they will not be - however the ones I've spoken to demand a yearly fee for their software so it may be different with one-off stuff with the insane idea that it "belongs to the machine" and not the purchaser.
Seamonkey works very well on those and has not abandoned 32bit WinXP like Firefox has.
Remember that a lot of those machines still have superior cpu power to a mid range smartphone so if the web site does not render well then something is seriously wrong - either an ancient version of Internet Explorer, other software not up to the task, or an incredibly badly designed website
Development of commercial engineering and scientific software is slooooow.
It's going to be at least a couple of years until some of the stuff in my workplace actually runs on Win10 - mainly due to copy protection shit, but if it does not run it really doesn't matter what the roadblock is and users are stuck on the old platform.
I've already had to roll one machine back to Win7, fairly painless, but the user had to find some stuff to do for a morning that did not require their computer.
I've got users on XP to run legacy software (they could use a VM but still on bare metal) and a win2k machine used rarely to run some VB abomination that requires two parallel port dongles so no VM for it.
For as long as there are compatability problems you'll see people on older versions of MS Windows whether they like the new version or not.