Spot on. All that's needed to confirm it is to look at Lennert's blog where he states most of the things above as his goals. He is not shy in saying that he wants to recreate linux HIS way and the rest can just go jump. If he listened to others and was a bit more patient in testing before getting things out the door that may not even be a bad thing, and it's probably fine for desktops. It kind of sucks for servers though when software depends on things working in the same sort of way they did a couple of years ago and where getting hung up on boot is a hassle for a lot of people instead of a single desktop user.
I think there is some truth to both of those versions of events
No, the simple answer was the reason and not some weird illuminati conspiracy theory about environmentalists with vast amounts of political power controlling everything from the shadows.
The problems of plastic bags not decomposing wasn't yet a known issue
It was known, (especially in areas where they relied on tourists visiting beaches) but ignored for financial reasons. It's not "history" to me.
So utterly unrelated stock answer number four now instead of number sixteen or whatever? How about acting like a human being instead of a bot. Human nature has nothing at all to do with the other posts and my posts were far too short for ignorance to show up whether it exists or not.
As for "shields", since three feet thick lead isn't going to cut it are you delving into fantasy again from Star Trek or whatever while telling people that solar sails similar to those that have already been made are fantasy?
Getting a person there with something better than chemical rockets is just fantasy since if you got the vehicle to move fast enough even the cosmic background radiation will be shifted enough to irradiate people to death. Of course, a different fantasy of cryosleep plus slow travel or FTL removes that in SF at least, but not so much in reality.
This thing on the other hand looks like a way to get a machine to another star using something that needs nothing more than some years of development (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail#Projects_operating_or_completed) instead of wishing so I do not get why you are calling it fantasy.
Seems entirely pointless and obvious so why bother? The path of least resistance was followed effectively and the fuel of choice of the 18th century was used.
Decades ago, Americans brought all their groceries home in paper bags. Environmentalists freaked out over all the paper being wasted and cried over all the murdered trees, so they helped urge the shift to plastic bags.
Complete and utter fucking bullshit kid. Go ask your dad instead of making shit up. The plastic bags were a shitload cheaper, around an order of magnitude, than paper ones and that was the reason.
nuclear power... It's also the only thing we can run 24/7 without sending wast amount of CO2
Wast amounts saved but mutates wascally wabbits!
Seriously nukes were not even considered worth it by Reagan, Thatcher, Bush etc so even the "conservatives" don't like it and the private sector will not touch it without a lot of government money sweetening the deal. It's no longer a serious option for large scale electricity generation unless some serious R&D is put in to provide viable designs that are not just something out of the 1970s painted green. India and Russia are trying but it's a slow process when there is little in the way of resources put into development.
The ones that have already been adopted will do for now. The coal free generation period is due to no new coal fired plants being built for years and not due to the Tories being "green".
Yes you repeated the exact same FUD tactics where the item you despise is required to do something utterly beyond the realms of reason before it can be considered adequate. It's kind of obvious what you are doing.
Instead of pretending you know everything
I suggested consulting with a high schooler. This is not a difficult topic at all and you don't need to have worked in the electricity industry like I did to understand it. You are either woefully ignorant or being deliberately misleading and insulting the intelligence of the readers (who will have given up by now).
It's pretty obvious that's what the intent was
Indeed it is - an attack on anything you see as "green" for political purposes. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I'm not at all offended by you branding me a "luddite"
Of course, since it's a description in this case and a warning about you for others instead of being an insult.
go read up on energy storage
Ah yes, a coder boy telling an engineer to read up on something they were working with in the 1990s and have been keeping track of since - kind of funny really, especially since you are either woefully ignorant of this topic or more likely pretending to be.
So you actually think Trump in showmanship mode is "proof" that he is not able to form complete thoughts? Where I am we had a politician up until the late 1980s who spoke like Trump. It was a tactic of speaking utter nonsense (eg. "you can't walk on both sides of a barbed wire fence") for long enough to confuse a journalist and at that time keep it up until a film change was needed (only a few minutes with the small portable cameras used for TV news) and the journalist needed to start again. Others use tricks along those lines. He's a creature of "reality TV" these days. Postures and sound bites instead of anything concrete. I don't think he ever had his mind in a better state so I don't think you have Trump being declared non compos mentis and a President Pence to look forward to.
You have a bit of a point, but I disagree since I've got an old PowerPC eMac that still works with OSX (I failed to put FreeBSD on it). While it cannot run a recent version of OSX it does get updates for applications such as Safari and iTunes.
What I don't get is why he hasn't done anything on infrastructure that he promised
The others (except maybe Sanders) didn't promise it because they didn't intend to do anything about it. That left a gap for a lair who was prepared to say he would do "something" but not make any specific promises about specific projects. "Trust me" from someone even the banks won't touch is kind of worthless. Maybe in a few months, or a year, or maybe four (Trump's not leaving unless he's carried out no matter what happens, he has nowhere near the morality of even Nixon) a lot of people will work out how naive they were about Trump. He is not working for the USA - he's working for Trump. He does not care about infrastructure unless it gets in the way of him getting to Florida on the weekend.
The same reason Powell, Rice and all the others were not prosecuted. Different rules for people in the office versus people in the field. It sucks, but it's been entrenched for a long time and it's kind of funny how it was blown up into a massive thing by the same people who suggested that it was OK for Petraeus to swap secrets for sex.
In any case, I'd like to know exactly why you believe my example is "utterly ridiculous."
A suggestion that batteries (or insert any other "green" technology you with to attack instead) are useless because they cannot single-handedly supply a days worth of electricity for a nation the size of the USA is not ridiculous and not a politically motivated move? So you are calling me stupid or gullible as well?
WTF is it with this political luddite shit. Something doesn't have to be the "one true energy" that can do everything for it to be useful.
Also ask a high schooler to tell you about electricity grids and time zones. Distributed generation capacity that can be turned on and off as required are vastly less lossy than any sort of storage, and since you have a grid the size of a continent that peaks are spread so storage isn't so necessary anyway. When New York needs power for an evening peak Texas isn't using a lot.
Perhaps they are hedging their bets for situations such as where a heavily polluted city makes a knee-jerk political decision and also bans LNG and similar? While pollution levels with hydrogen are not much lower (there is still NOx) there is no CO and CO2 (which may end up as a bit more of a political poison than it is currently). As you wrote, hydrogen is very difficult to deal with currently and is likely to always be a bit more difficult than other choices, but it does still work at short ranges and it is produced in many places.
it's mind-boggling that Toyota is wasting their time with this crap
There is likely to be only a very small group working on this and such things can have spinoffs. For example, the ridiculous project at Mercedes of making an all ceramic engine resulted in things like ceramic cylinder liners in trucks. The ceramic can take more intense heat and the metal in the block can quickly conduct it away.
Yes people have kept on telling me that for years but vanish without trace every time I ask for an example of an application that can actually forward single applications. Perhaps they are worried that I will compare it to Hummingbird Exceed on MS Windows 2000, or perhaps they have never actually seen RDP do it and they've only heard about it doing it in theory. Have you seen RDP run like that and do you know of an application that uses it that way? Meanwhile X does it well on a variety of platforms.
Except they aren't actively hostile towards those people
Suggesting the same thing you did earned me about a dozen "foes" in this place. Apparently I am a complete dinosaur for wanting to run applications remotely. The Wayland mailing lists also had such active hostility to anyone who suggested incorporating such "unnecessary X features" into Wayland.
The only justification for Wayland was replacing shortcomings of X.
No. Like SVGAlib before it there was the goal of having a simple framebuffer for local applications to quickly display things onto the screen instead of having a more complex environment. That's a goal in itself whether "X sux" or not.
As for your "horse shit" - seriously? Are you being a goldfish? I listed many of the positive changes in direction above. Am I to be attacked for not suggesting that an evolving project was not born perfect? That remote support is being considered at all in Wayland is an example of positive changes.
Shrug. I guess if you can't take issue with his points you can always stoop to mocking him for forgetting cables.
That's just one example of many things. His cracks at enlightenment, his bit about being one of only five people who understands Xinput (when it seems classes of fifty at a time were learning about that when I was at university) and his unfinished presentation tells a bit of a story - yet fanboys keep rolling it out as some sort of evidence perhaps because they do not actually understand the context enough to follow what Daniel Stone has said.
as Windows or Mac
I thought the topic was Wayland? Also I disagree, especially with MS Windows8 and MS Windows10.
Furthermore X11 remoting is unusable over anything other than LAN
Turn off your bittottent client and try again - it's working for other people.
*Especially* on modern apps like gedit that use client-drawn widgets
X isn't broken. The gnome devs are lazy. Their crap performs very badly even running purely on a local machine unless you've got a 1337 video card to pick up the slack. Try using something they have not touched and you'll see it works.
Perhaps you should watch the video. The choice of the gtk3 gedit instead of some sort of benchmark or another application appears to have been to deliberately show an application with very poor performance.
I haven't had to hand-edit any X config files for a very long time
I did it recently for a 4 head system where 3 and 4 were on a different card and mirrors of 1 and 2, but it turns out a GUI configuration tool does even that edge case.
Spot on. All that's needed to confirm it is to look at Lennert's blog where he states most of the things above as his goals. He is not shy in saying that he wants to recreate linux HIS way and the rest can just go jump. If he listened to others and was a bit more patient in testing before getting things out the door that may not even be a bad thing, and it's probably fine for desktops. It kind of sucks for servers though when software depends on things working in the same sort of way they did a couple of years ago and where getting hung up on boot is a hassle for a lot of people instead of a single desktop user.
No, the simple answer was the reason and not some weird illuminati conspiracy theory about environmentalists with vast amounts of political power controlling everything from the shadows.
It was known, (especially in areas where they relied on tourists visiting beaches) but ignored for financial reasons. It's not "history" to me.
So utterly unrelated stock answer number four now instead of number sixteen or whatever?
How about acting like a human being instead of a bot. Human nature has nothing at all to do with the other posts and my posts were far too short for ignorance to show up whether it exists or not.
As for "shields", since three feet thick lead isn't going to cut it are you delving into fantasy again from Star Trek or whatever while telling people that solar sails similar to those that have already been made are fantasy?
Don't worry kid, when you are thirty years older you won't understand human nature in the same way.
What's with the snotty put downs? Can't get laid?
Getting a person there with something better than chemical rockets is just fantasy since if you got the vehicle to move fast enough even the cosmic background radiation will be shifted enough to irradiate people to death.
Of course, a different fantasy of cryosleep plus slow travel or FTL removes that in SF at least, but not so much in reality.
This thing on the other hand looks like a way to get a machine to another star using something that needs nothing more than some years of development (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail#Projects_operating_or_completed) instead of wishing so I do not get why you are calling it fantasy.
Seems entirely pointless and obvious so why bother? The path of least resistance was followed effectively and the fuel of choice of the 18th century was used.
Complete and utter fucking bullshit kid. Go ask your dad instead of making shit up. The plastic bags were a shitload cheaper, around an order of magnitude, than paper ones and that was the reason.
But it's ye olde fossile in ye olde Brittania :)
Wast amounts saved but mutates wascally wabbits!
Seriously nukes were not even considered worth it by Reagan, Thatcher, Bush etc so even the "conservatives" don't like it and the private sector will not touch it without a lot of government money sweetening the deal. It's no longer a serious option for large scale electricity generation unless some serious R&D is put in to provide viable designs that are not just something out of the 1970s painted green. India and Russia are trying but it's a slow process when there is little in the way of resources put into development.
The ones that have already been adopted will do for now.
The coal free generation period is due to no new coal fired plants being built for years and not due to the Tories being "green".
Yes you repeated the exact same FUD tactics where the item you despise is required to do something utterly beyond the realms of reason before it can be considered adequate.
It's kind of obvious what you are doing.
I suggested consulting with a high schooler. This is not a difficult topic at all and you don't need to have worked in the electricity industry like I did to understand it. You are either woefully ignorant or being deliberately misleading and insulting the intelligence of the readers (who will have given up by now).
Indeed it is - an attack on anything you see as "green" for political purposes. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Of course, since it's a description in this case and a warning about you for others instead of being an insult.
Ah yes, a coder boy telling an engineer to read up on something they were working with in the 1990s and have been keeping track of since - kind of funny really, especially since you are either woefully ignorant of this topic or more likely pretending to be.
So you actually think Trump in showmanship mode is "proof" that he is not able to form complete thoughts?
Where I am we had a politician up until the late 1980s who spoke like Trump. It was a tactic of speaking utter nonsense (eg. "you can't walk on both sides of a barbed wire fence") for long enough to confuse a journalist and at that time keep it up until a film change was needed (only a few minutes with the small portable cameras used for TV news) and the journalist needed to start again. Others use tricks along those lines.
He's a creature of "reality TV" these days. Postures and sound bites instead of anything concrete. I don't think he ever had his mind in a better state so I don't think you have Trump being declared non compos mentis and a President Pence to look forward to.
Thanks, I may give that a try and hopefully have more luck with the bootloader on those.
You have a bit of a point, but I disagree since I've got an old PowerPC eMac that still works with OSX (I failed to put FreeBSD on it).
While it cannot run a recent version of OSX it does get updates for applications such as Safari and iTunes.
I think he also doesn't really want to deliver as well.
No, he's been like that his entire adult life - if you can call that manbaby an adult.
The others (except maybe Sanders) didn't promise it because they didn't intend to do anything about it. That left a gap for a lair who was prepared to say he would do "something" but not make any specific promises about specific projects.
"Trust me" from someone even the banks won't touch is kind of worthless.
Maybe in a few months, or a year, or maybe four (Trump's not leaving unless he's carried out no matter what happens, he has nowhere near the morality of even Nixon) a lot of people will work out how naive they were about Trump. He is not working for the USA - he's working for Trump. He does not care about infrastructure unless it gets in the way of him getting to Florida on the weekend.
The same reason Powell, Rice and all the others were not prosecuted.
Different rules for people in the office versus people in the field.
It sucks, but it's been entrenched for a long time and it's kind of funny how it was blown up into a massive thing by the same people who suggested that it was OK for Petraeus to swap secrets for sex.
Trump lied?
Really?
Isn't that something that you people said was the reason to never vote for Hillary?
It's amazing how partisan this place became last year.
A suggestion that batteries (or insert any other "green" technology you with to attack instead) are useless because they cannot single-handedly supply a days worth of electricity for a nation the size of the USA is not ridiculous and not a politically motivated move?
So you are calling me stupid or gullible as well?
WTF is it with this political luddite shit. Something doesn't have to be the "one true energy" that can do everything for it to be useful.
Also ask a high schooler to tell you about electricity grids and time zones. Distributed generation capacity that can be turned on and off as required are vastly less lossy than any sort of storage, and since you have a grid the size of a continent that peaks are spread so storage isn't so necessary anyway. When New York needs power for an evening peak Texas isn't using a lot.
As you wrote, hydrogen is very difficult to deal with currently and is likely to always be a bit more difficult than other choices, but it does still work at short ranges and it is produced in many places.
There is likely to be only a very small group working on this and such things can have spinoffs. For example, the ridiculous project at Mercedes of making an all ceramic engine resulted in things like ceramic cylinder liners in trucks. The ceramic can take more intense heat and the metal in the block can quickly conduct it away.
Yes people have kept on telling me that for years but vanish without trace every time I ask for an example of an application that can actually forward single applications.
Perhaps they are worried that I will compare it to Hummingbird Exceed on MS Windows 2000, or perhaps they have never actually seen RDP do it and they've only heard about it doing it in theory.
Have you seen RDP run like that and do you know of an application that uses it that way?
Meanwhile X does it well on a variety of platforms.
Suggesting the same thing you did earned me about a dozen "foes" in this place. Apparently I am a complete dinosaur for wanting to run applications remotely. The Wayland mailing lists also had such active hostility to anyone who suggested incorporating such "unnecessary X features" into Wayland.
No. Like SVGAlib before it there was the goal of having a simple framebuffer for local applications to quickly display things onto the screen instead of having a more complex environment. That's a goal in itself whether "X sux" or not.
As for your "horse shit" - seriously? Are you being a goldfish? I listed many of the positive changes in direction above. Am I to be attacked for not suggesting that an evolving project was not born perfect? That remote support is being considered at all in Wayland is an example of positive changes.
That's just one example of many things. His cracks at enlightenment, his bit about being one of only five people who understands Xinput (when it seems classes of fifty at a time were learning about that when I was at university) and his unfinished presentation tells a bit of a story - yet fanboys keep rolling it out as some sort of evidence perhaps because they do not actually understand the context enough to follow what Daniel Stone has said.
I thought the topic was Wayland? Also I disagree, especially with MS Windows8 and MS Windows10.
Turn off your bittottent client and try again - it's working for other people.
X isn't broken. The gnome devs are lazy. Their crap performs very badly even running purely on a local machine unless you've got a 1337 video card to pick up the slack. Try using something they have not touched and you'll see it works.
Perhaps you should watch the video.
The choice of the gtk3 gedit instead of some sort of benchmark or another application appears to have been to deliberately show an application with very poor performance.
I did it recently for a 4 head system where 3 and 4 were on a different card and mirrors of 1 and 2, but it turns out a GUI configuration tool does even that edge case.