I should add that UBI also looks very good to people who evade tax completely but have an income. Take a close look at some of the people pushing it for examples. Other suckers like us are expected to get taxed out the backside to add to their income. Welfare should be something to keep people alive if they don't have enough income not some "every child gets a prize" bullshit.
Personally I think the entire idea is a very naive "reward" view of welfare money from the less sane reaches of the far right of politics. Why do I think that? Because they fail to take into account that people who work are going to be contributing in taxes and getting some back with some administration losses in the middle. It drives up taxes leaving the people who are employed worse off on average than if they were not getting a universal income. The only way to avoid that is to cut back on government services somewhere else. For people who don't work, fine, it keeps them alive, deters crime and gives them enough resources to make it into the workplace some day (transport, appropriate clothing etc). The obvious solution is to only give it to the people that actually need help.
Very strange ones about the TSA "helping people" by looking at the private portions of their social media accounts. I just don't get it.
The only way the policy makes sense is if you interpret it my way.
I do not think so. In my opinion it only makes sense if they wish to build up a dossier on each visitor or if they want a flimsy excuse to reject people to match a quota and show that the TSA is "working" by throwing out a large number of "potential terrorists". Personally I think the entire low rent bunch should be replaced by the sort of professional airport security that is done in Israel. in the long run it would cost less than that massive welfare system that is the TSA. I don't know if I linked this before but it's worth a look or listen: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/safety-in-the-skies-%E2%80%93-the-story-of-aviation-security/7721242
That's not the point. With point to point communications you don't need Skype in the middle. You get nothing extra if Skype is IPv6 other than over IPv4, you still have the hack of a Skype server in the middle that you need for IPv4 but don't for IPv6. Skype doesn't need to be IPv6 compatible. Something with all the same features (eg. some of the Citrix "goto" stuff but point to point) could replace it and all things being otherwise equal would provide a performance boost. As an aside, I used the MS Lync meeting thing the other day - what a piece of shit. Half the people connecting to the meeting had to reboot before it worked. I have no idea why MS keep it alive when they OWN Skype outright
That is a separate issue. We appear to be discussing two totally different things. Perhaps you should look briefly at the first few lines of the news story from early last year that I linked to.
I very much doubt that this is intended to be for only those 7 countries where social media use is vanishingly low anyway. That makes zero sense to only apply there.
Once you accept that falsehood, it becomes a simple matter to begin defining certain citizens (e.g., convicted felons, individuals on the terrorist watch list) as also not being entitled to Constitutional protections
To add to that list Trump has already made noise about people who have previously been citizens of other countries. Apparently they are not real Americans to him. He's also made tweets about revoking citizenship - not just residency, citizenship.
Maybe it is fake, but Trump's stamp of 'Fake News' means nothing because he applied it to photos of the crowd at his inauguration. We'll need someone other than Trump to call it fake to be sure.
How many programmers would be required to make a LibreOffice/LogicalDoc rollout roughly comparable to MSO/Sharepoint
Why do you need to copy someone else's environment? Surely the focus should be on what the city wants to do instead of playing "me too". Maybe the city only needs a very simple and cheap web environment to share the things they want shared outside of their internal network disks that employees can get to?
Apart from professional graphic designers who really needs photoshop? Maybe you should crop your snaps with Gimp or one of hundreds of alternatives instead of using a pirated photoshop.
Before you get onto blasting Gimp's multi-window UI remember that photoshop went that way recently too and that Gimp now has a single window option. GP poster - "real programs"? As if scientific and engineering software is somehow less real than the software you pirated to crop your snaps?
Everyone is going to point at MS Office, but that's no the problem. There are man many "proprietary" applications that have become standards across certain industries and organizations such as municipalities where Wine simply isn't an option.
So? I work with geophysicists and some of the stuff they use has never been ported to MS. There are workarounds to get it to display on MS systems just as there are workarounds (eg. virtual machines) to run MS only stuff on *nix boxes.
Thunderbird et al just don't replicate well or at all
For instance those cryptolocker emails that infect a network as soon as someone using MS Outlook clicks on the subject line, even if they are intending to do so to delete it, but will not autorun with Thunderbird or any email client apart from MS Outlook. The design sucks IMHO - Outlook not so good.
Slashdot is not a proposal to management so while you may be looking for a prize at a spelling bee other poster does not need to do so. FFS, I thought feeding kids Shakespear was supposed to cure them of a spelling obsession. Is that still being taught in schools?
if they would let us get rid of Skype for Business
When IPv6 adoption takes off I'm sure they'll be a point to point application that fills the role just as well without the dodgy man in the middle hack that Skype provides to get around NAT.
Yup, and this essentially amounts to doing things the way that MS Office does them. The way you've already learnt to do things is the easy way, because doing things any other way first requires unlearning the way you've already learnt.
That sounds obvious but it doesn't apply as much as you would think. A few years ago I was running practical class sessions for first year engineering students that included a segment on graphing a stress-strain curve of a specimen that the students had tested, and doing a few very simple calculations based on the data. At a staff meeting we decided to change to MS Excel to do the graphing because "they have already learned how to use Excel". It turned out that they hadn't. The prac class turned into a nightmare that always ran over time that ended up being a class on how to do line graphs in MS Excel.
So I and everyone in that meeting had the same preconception you do and we were wrong. Just because a lot of people have used MS Office to do things does not mean the fastest way to get them up to speed on a task you want them to do is to use MS Office to do it. That especially applies now with the ribbon making it much harder for people unfamiliar with a task to find the way to get MS Office to let them do it.
"The Average Secretary" is not your issue here. Using it as the standard is low, in more ways than one.
It was used by another poster to define "real work" on computers. Apparently the scientific and engineering software used on *nix in some workplaces is not real work. Apparently anything with a front end operated via a web browser isn't real work either.
Not for the people being subjected to it. Also since the final resting place of a good presentation is on an intranet to be viewed by a web browser it's a pretty stupid idea unless a web browser can also render it.
I've still got MS Office 2000 on some virtual machines, and it's actually very good compared with the ribbon thing on top of being astonishingly fast. For typical use there isn't anything missing in that old version compared with the new one.
Of course it would suck for collaboration with others but so does the newer MS Office unless you've got everyone on the exact same version with the exact same templates and the exact same fonts. At least with Libreoffice it's trivial to get everyone on the same version of the software (and it's more forgiving than MS Office). With MS Office it's a huge budget outlay and huge amount of messing about installing stuff as soon as someone gets a laptop with a newer version and throws upgrade plans out of whack. If you don't have the exact same version of MS Office as all the others forget about collaborative efforts using it, the software will fuck up the files due to an incompatibility at some point.
With the greatest possible respect because I'm sure that you are very good at something, have you considered that those items you listed are not of an appropriate size to drive tiny little robot parts and that it would be difficult to control dozens of them at once? I've done tricky stuff with hydraulics (mechanical testing machines - automating an old manually controlled version of one of those are a bitch) so I'm a little bit aware that what you suggested is not a well solved problem.
What you suggested is a cool idea, I'm not knocking that, just the dream that someone at TEPCO could say "make it so" and a hydraulic robot gets built in under a year. There's a string of inventions that would have to be worked on first to get that steampunk robot so it would be a large project, probably worth doing, but still a large project.
Well, look, it's obvious that you are going to cling to this delusion no matter what I say.
As distinct from the TSA "helping people" by logging onto their social media accounts? I really do not think I am the deluded one here and I'm not really sure why you are going to such ridiculous lengths to defend the TSA.
You were very vocal before about Google disclosing employee details. Why are you defending the TSA getting a vast amount more personal information to build up profiles of potentially everyone passing through an airport?
I'm describing what happened with TMI and some changes made after the incident. A major problem was not having any idea what the failure actually was and where it was due to lack of monitoring. That made responding to the failure very difficult. A typical fertilizer plant of the time had more rigorous monitoring because nukes were relatively new and considered to be very safe. The reactors still running from the 1950s were barely monitored at all so in the warning signs before an accident would have been very difficult to spot making it difficult to avert an accident.
fine control with hydraulics is not the problem. That's fairly well-solved
You've just very graphically demonstrated the difference between a coder and an engineer. Imagine the equivalent of dozens of very tiny stepper motors controlled by hydraulics all at the same time, oh that's right, you didn't think far enough ahead to see you'd need something like that did you? So not solved.
Steampunk is still fiction and not up to replacing electronics for robots yet.
Then that's just about everything. As an aside some of the really old stuff shut down just after the TMI incident was incredibly scary. In hindsight it was a lucky accident to have. It generated so much fear because the thing was so poorly instrumented that it took a very long time to work out what the hell was going on so the media was full of speculation for weeks.
Slashdot Mirror
I should add that UBI also looks very good to people who evade tax completely but have an income. Take a close look at some of the people pushing it for examples. Other suckers like us are expected to get taxed out the backside to add to their income.
Welfare should be something to keep people alive if they don't have enough income not some "every child gets a prize" bullshit.
Personally I think the entire idea is a very naive "reward" view of welfare money from the less sane reaches of the far right of politics.
Why do I think that? Because they fail to take into account that people who work are going to be contributing in taxes and getting some back with some administration losses in the middle. It drives up taxes leaving the people who are employed worse off on average than if they were not getting a universal income. The only way to avoid that is to cut back on government services somewhere else.
For people who don't work, fine, it keeps them alive, deters crime and gives them enough resources to make it into the workplace some day (transport, appropriate clothing etc). The obvious solution is to only give it to the people that actually need help.
Very strange ones about the TSA "helping people" by looking at the private portions of their social media accounts. I just don't get it.
I do not think so. In my opinion it only makes sense if they wish to build up a dossier on each visitor or if they want a flimsy excuse to reject people to match a quota and show that the TSA is "working" by throwing out a large number of "potential terrorists".
Personally I think the entire low rent bunch should be replaced by the sort of professional airport security that is done in Israel. in the long run it would cost less than that massive welfare system that is the TSA. I don't know if I linked this before but it's worth a look or listen:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/rearvision/safety-in-the-skies-%E2%80%93-the-story-of-aviation-security/7721242
That's not the point. With point to point communications you don't need Skype in the middle. You get nothing extra if Skype is IPv6 other than over IPv4, you still have the hack of a Skype server in the middle that you need for IPv4 but don't for IPv6. Skype doesn't need to be IPv6 compatible.
Something with all the same features (eg. some of the Citrix "goto" stuff but point to point) could replace it and all things being otherwise equal would provide a performance boost.
As an aside, I used the MS Lync meeting thing the other day - what a piece of shit. Half the people connecting to the meeting had to reboot before it worked. I have no idea why MS keep it alive when they OWN Skype outright
That is a separate issue.
We appear to be discussing two totally different things.
Perhaps you should look briefly at the first few lines of the news story from early last year that I linked to.
I very much doubt that this is intended to be for only those 7 countries where social media use is vanishingly low anyway. That makes zero sense to only apply there.
To add to that list Trump has already made noise about people who have previously been citizens of other countries. Apparently they are not real Americans to him. He's also made tweets about revoking citizenship - not just residency, citizenship.
Maybe it is fake, but Trump's stamp of 'Fake News' means nothing because he applied it to photos of the crowd at his inauguration.
We'll need someone other than Trump to call it fake to be sure.
Why do you need to copy someone else's environment? Surely the focus should be on what the city wants to do instead of playing "me too". Maybe the city only needs a very simple and cheap web environment to share the things they want shared outside of their internal network disks that employees can get to?
Apart from professional graphic designers who really needs photoshop? Maybe you should crop your snaps with Gimp or one of hundreds of alternatives instead of using a pirated photoshop.
Before you get onto blasting Gimp's multi-window UI remember that photoshop went that way recently too and that Gimp now has a single window option.
GP poster - "real programs"? As if scientific and engineering software is somehow less real than the software you pirated to crop your snaps?
That would leave them in Dia straits :)
So? I work with geophysicists and some of the stuff they use has never been ported to MS. There are workarounds to get it to display on MS systems just as there are workarounds (eg. virtual machines) to run MS only stuff on *nix boxes.
For instance those cryptolocker emails that infect a network as soon as someone using MS Outlook clicks on the subject line, even if they are intending to do so to delete it, but will not autorun with Thunderbird or any email client apart from MS Outlook. The design sucks IMHO - Outlook not so good.
Says the AC?
Slashdot is not a proposal to management so while you may be looking for a prize at a spelling bee other poster does not need to do so.
FFS, I thought feeding kids Shakespear was supposed to cure them of a spelling obsession. Is that still being taught in schools?
When IPv6 adoption takes off I'm sure they'll be a point to point application that fills the role just as well without the dodgy man in the middle hack that Skype provides to get around NAT.
What's wrong with databases?
That sounds obvious but it doesn't apply as much as you would think.
A few years ago I was running practical class sessions for first year engineering students that included a segment on graphing a stress-strain curve of a specimen that the students had tested, and doing a few very simple calculations based on the data. At a staff meeting we decided to change to MS Excel to do the graphing because "they have already learned how to use Excel". It turned out that they hadn't. The prac class turned into a nightmare that always ran over time that ended up being a class on how to do line graphs in MS Excel.
So I and everyone in that meeting had the same preconception you do and we were wrong. Just because a lot of people have used MS Office to do things does not mean the fastest way to get them up to speed on a task you want them to do is to use MS Office to do it. That especially applies now with the ribbon making it much harder for people unfamiliar with a task to find the way to get MS Office to let them do it.
It was used by another poster to define "real work" on computers.
Apparently the scientific and engineering software used on *nix in some workplaces is not real work. Apparently anything with a front end operated via a web browser isn't real work either.
Not for the people being subjected to it.
Also since the final resting place of a good presentation is on an intranet to be viewed by a web browser it's a pretty stupid idea unless a web browser can also render it.
I've still got MS Office 2000 on some virtual machines, and it's actually very good compared with the ribbon thing on top of being astonishingly fast.
For typical use there isn't anything missing in that old version compared with the new one.
Of course it would suck for collaboration with others but so does the newer MS Office unless you've got everyone on the exact same version with the exact same templates and the exact same fonts.
At least with Libreoffice it's trivial to get everyone on the same version of the software (and it's more forgiving than MS Office). With MS Office it's a huge budget outlay and huge amount of messing about installing stuff as soon as someone gets a laptop with a newer version and throws upgrade plans out of whack. If you don't have the exact same version of MS Office as all the others forget about collaborative efforts using it, the software will fuck up the files due to an incompatibility at some point.
With the greatest possible respect because I'm sure that you are very good at something, have you considered that those items you listed are not of an appropriate size to drive tiny little robot parts and that it would be difficult to control dozens of them at once?
I've done tricky stuff with hydraulics (mechanical testing machines - automating an old manually controlled version of one of those are a bitch) so I'm a little bit aware that what you suggested is not a well solved problem.
What you suggested is a cool idea, I'm not knocking that, just the dream that someone at TEPCO could say "make it so" and a hydraulic robot gets built in under a year. There's a string of inventions that would have to be worked on first to get that steampunk robot so it would be a large project, probably worth doing, but still a large project.
As distinct from the TSA "helping people" by logging onto their social media accounts? I really do not think I am the deluded one here and I'm not really sure why you are going to such ridiculous lengths to defend the TSA.
You were very vocal before about Google disclosing employee details. Why are you defending the TSA getting a vast amount more personal information to build up profiles of potentially everyone passing through an airport?
I'm describing what happened with TMI and some changes made after the incident.
A major problem was not having any idea what the failure actually was and where it was due to lack of monitoring. That made responding to the failure very difficult.
A typical fertilizer plant of the time had more rigorous monitoring because nukes were relatively new and considered to be very safe. The reactors still running from the 1950s were barely monitored at all so in the warning signs before an accident would have been very difficult to spot making it difficult to avert an accident.
Does that clear things up?
You've just very graphically demonstrated the difference between a coder and an engineer.
Imagine the equivalent of dozens of very tiny stepper motors controlled by hydraulics all at the same time, oh that's right, you didn't think far enough ahead to see you'd need something like that did you? So not solved.
Steampunk is still fiction and not up to replacing electronics for robots yet.
You missed the "just about".
Even dumbing things down to the max doesn't seem to be enough to avoid misunderstandings here.
Then that's just about everything. As an aside some of the really old stuff shut down just after the TMI incident was incredibly scary. In hindsight it was a lucky accident to have. It generated so much fear because the thing was so poorly instrumented that it took a very long time to work out what the hell was going on so the media was full of speculation for weeks.