Of course he's a coward. What has happened to Manning for the last seven years has shown what happens to heroes even when they plead guilty. Thirty-five years even after admitting the crime? It was a record. It's worth noting that Manning was locked up but those spooks who sold a little boy into sex slavery in Afganistan are still free.
And not just from "bad to good", really just towards different. Consider the attitude of the WWII generation to torture and the attitude of the current one fed on "24" and similar shit. In many ways the people 100 years ago would judge us and find us wanting. That was one of the minor themes of John Birmingham's World War 2.1 books which open with a 21st century naval fleet ending up in the middle of WWII.
If it was not an outsourced service then local physical access solves the problem if the ex-employee is not available. If it is an outsourced service it should be to a provider that will listen to the person paying the bills instead of refusing to deal with anyone other than the ex-employee.
When something like this escalates to the point where someone is going to jail I'd say there are multiple fuckups and a scapegoat who probably deserves jail far less than some of the others involved.
After the ridiculous situation with Terry Childs in S.F. I checked with others to make sure that if I was going out the door for any reason they wouldn't need to ask me for a password (and that nobody could accuse me of withholding one), but few have made sure that such a transition would be as smooth.
You can do the right thing and have left the passwords with the top level of management or whatever, but unless someone else can prove you have done so you are vunerable to scapegoating which may be what this situation was.
All around the world, sinks have the hot water on the left, and the cold on the right
I used to live in a town with artesian water - stuff from very deep underground that comes up hot and under pressure. The water pipes in town were on the surface or close to it in a lot of places. In the height of summer the "cold" tap would range from cup of tea temperature to scalding if you let it run long enough. In my house the "hot" tap was fed from a tank at the back of the stove. In summer it was too hot to use the stove, so the town water would sit in the tank and cool down to room temperature. Thus the "cold" was burning hot (sometimes 70C or more, the bore the water came from a few blocks away was at around 90C) and the "hot" was cold.
In winter the "cold" water would actually be cold from those shallow pipes unless you ran it for a long time, while the "hot" was actually heated by the stove and was hot.
So of course this really confused infrequent visitors.
Assange acted as if he didn't fear such a thing until he was facing extradition to Sweden for an unrelated criminal charge.
Considering how strange it was for things to escalate on an issue that isn't even a crime in the UK of course he had fears, it was also so strange that a leading Swedish political figure got involved to reopen the dropped case. All that fuss over a minor issue while elsewhere in the EU Polanski was left alone despite an actual conviction of violent rape of a child and fleeing from justice. It was extremely obvious that it was an effort to go after Assange for political motives instead of prosecuting a crime.
unrelated criminal charge
You should remember that he has not actually been charged - that's one of the things that makes it so strange. Extradition without actual criminal charges almost never happens so Assange had something to fear, he was in new "all bets are off" territory.
It's been in the press a few times as you should be aware unless you've been living under a rock. Google or asking someone who has been paying attention to this issue will help. Expensive people in Washington have burned through many hours of meetings about Assange, perhaps entirely pointlessly, but it's still you taxes at work.
You Assange stans really think he's some sort of James Bond supervillain, don't you?
Oh do grow up. Extraordinary rendition was definitely happening a few years ago to people who were not "supervillains" and it's probably continued under Obama. Hillary certainly seemed to like the idea.
Maybe you missed it the first time: there is no US extradition request for Julian Assange
Look up "extraordinary rendition" for the way at least one person has been taken out of Sweden by US agencies.
You are making the mistake of looking at this in terms of criminal law instead of the political/quasi-military situation that it actually is. Assenge is a political problem to be removed by extra-judicial means and not just a criminal that can be dealt with over time by an established process.
True - North showed us what treason was with giving those anti-tank missiles to Hezbolla and selling a lot of stuff to Iran. Whistleblowing - now that's pathetic in the treason stakes, not like in the old days when we had traitors that would hand over serious weapons, paid for by the taxpayer, to people that had killed over a hundred US Marines less than a year before and wanted to kill more Americans. They don't make traitors like they used to.
I've got real confusion instead - WTF is "outright deadnaming"?
Also this place makes about as much sense as a venue to discuss sexuality of any kind as a locker room full of twelve year old boys. Most will say a lot without actually knowing anything related to the topic at all, and anything seen as being outside of the norm will be mercilessly insulted.
Just use the name FFS - surname only if that makes it easier. What Manning did is really all that matters in this case instead of stirring up a bunch that know very little about any sort of sexuality.
Think of how David Petraeus did the same thing for nothing but the motive of wanting to fuck a reporter and how he got away with nothing but a slap on the wrist. That disproportionate punishment should make it easier to sort out your feelings even if you think Manning is guilty as hell. The sentence Manning received was unjust.
If he's told a lot of incredibly obvious lies he's a liar no matter what reason it was for. For example, Mark Twain called himself a liar despite doing it to entertain while making sure he didn't actually fool anybody beyond the end of whatever tall tail was told. Trump lies. A lot. Whether he calls it making a deal, conning a rube or locker room talk or whatever it's still a lie no matter what reason it was for. How else did he turn the anger at the "1%" into getting people to vote for one of the worst of the "1%"?
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I never believed China would be up to this. Great!
They are also into recycling.
This announcement was made before. That way they can get double the credit for each single cancellation.
That sort of political trick is used just about everywhere though.
Of course he's a coward. What has happened to Manning for the last seven years has shown what happens to heroes even when they plead guilty. Thirty-five years even after admitting the crime? It was a record.
It's worth noting that Manning was locked up but those spooks who sold a little boy into sex slavery in Afganistan are still free.
It's a trend these days to tweet something on then go back on your word almost immediately.
And not just from "bad to good", really just towards different.
Consider the attitude of the WWII generation to torture and the attitude of the current one fed on "24" and similar shit. In many ways the people 100 years ago would judge us and find us wanting. That was one of the minor themes of John Birmingham's World War 2.1 books which open with a 21st century naval fleet ending up in the middle of WWII.
It's the Trump way of doing things. Don't get upset when a lowly serf tries it as an "opening bid".
It was not his property to wipe.
Unless it was. Bring Your Own Device is a thing now despite obvious complications like this.
If it was not an outsourced service then local physical access solves the problem if the ex-employee is not available.
If it is an outsourced service it should be to a provider that will listen to the person paying the bills instead of refusing to deal with anyone other than the ex-employee.
When something like this escalates to the point where someone is going to jail I'd say there are multiple fuckups and a scapegoat who probably deserves jail far less than some of the others involved.
After the ridiculous situation with Terry Childs in S.F. I checked with others to make sure that if I was going out the door for any reason they wouldn't need to ask me for a password (and that nobody could accuse me of withholding one), but few have made sure that such a transition would be as smooth.
You can do the right thing and have left the passwords with the top level of management or whatever, but unless someone else can prove you have done so you are vunerable to scapegoating which may be what this situation was.
I used to live in a town with artesian water - stuff from very deep underground that comes up hot and under pressure. The water pipes in town were on the surface or close to it in a lot of places.
In the height of summer the "cold" tap would range from cup of tea temperature to scalding if you let it run long enough.
In my house the "hot" tap was fed from a tank at the back of the stove. In summer it was too hot to use the stove, so the town water would sit in the tank and cool down to room temperature.
Thus the "cold" was burning hot (sometimes 70C or more, the bore the water came from a few blocks away was at around 90C) and the "hot" was cold.
In winter the "cold" water would actually be cold from those shallow pipes unless you ran it for a long time, while the "hot" was actually heated by the stove and was hot.
So of course this really confused infrequent visitors.
Considering how strange it was for things to escalate on an issue that isn't even a crime in the UK of course he had fears, it was also so strange that a leading Swedish political figure got involved to reopen the dropped case. All that fuss over a minor issue while elsewhere in the EU Polanski was left alone despite an actual conviction of violent rape of a child and fleeing from justice. It was extremely obvious that it was an effort to go after Assange for political motives instead of prosecuting a crime.
You should remember that he has not actually been charged - that's one of the things that makes it so strange. Extradition without actual criminal charges almost never happens so Assange had something to fear, he was in new "all bets are off" territory.
Manning also leaked to reporters and then pled guilty, but got 35 years instead of a fine smaller than Petraeus' golden parachute.
It's been in the press a few times as you should be aware unless you've been living under a rock. Google or asking someone who has been paying attention to this issue will help. Expensive people in Washington have burned through many hours of meetings about Assange, perhaps entirely pointlessly, but it's still you taxes at work.
Oh do grow up.
Extraordinary rendition was definitely happening a few years ago to people who were not "supervillains" and it's probably continued under Obama. Hillary certainly seemed to like the idea.
Do you think the same about David Petraeus? Same crime, worse motive.
Now that's optimism. If things go to shit we are one crisis away from the mid terms being cancelled on the excuse of that crisis.
Look up "extraordinary rendition" for the way at least one person has been taken out of Sweden by US agencies.
You are making the mistake of looking at this in terms of criminal law instead of the political/quasi-military situation that it actually is. Assenge is a political problem to be removed by extra-judicial means and not just a criminal that can be dealt with over time by an established process.
It was not a very well kept secret. A lot of taxes were spent on making plans for Julian.
True - North showed us what treason was with giving those anti-tank missiles to Hezbolla and selling a lot of stuff to Iran.
Whistleblowing - now that's pathetic in the treason stakes, not like in the old days when we had traitors that would hand over serious weapons, paid for by the taxpayer, to people that had killed over a hundred US Marines less than a year before and wanted to kill more Americans. They don't make traitors like they used to.
AFTER Manning leaked it. Not by Manning.
Now try again and get it right this time. Blame Manning for what Manning did and not what others did instead.
I've got real confusion instead - WTF is "outright deadnaming"?
Also this place makes about as much sense as a venue to discuss sexuality of any kind as a locker room full of twelve year old boys. Most will say a lot without actually knowing anything related to the topic at all, and anything seen as being outside of the norm will be mercilessly insulted.
Just use the name FFS - surname only if that makes it easier.
What Manning did is really all that matters in this case instead of stirring up a bunch that know very little about any sort of sexuality.
No big deal, we just had an election about that.
Think of how David Petraeus did the same thing for nothing but the motive of wanting to fuck a reporter and how he got away with nothing but a slap on the wrist. That disproportionate punishment should make it easier to sort out your feelings even if you think Manning is guilty as hell. The sentence Manning received was unjust.
Making false statements due to ignorance of the truth is not lying. It's being honestly mistaken/incorrect.
Do you really think that applies in this case? If so Trump's got a bridge he can sell to you.
He's not being convicted.
He's being described.
If he's told a lot of incredibly obvious lies he's a liar no matter what reason it was for.
For example, Mark Twain called himself a liar despite doing it to entertain while making sure he didn't actually fool anybody beyond the end of whatever tall tail was told.
Trump lies. A lot. Whether he calls it making a deal, conning a rube or locker room talk or whatever it's still a lie no matter what reason it was for. How else did he turn the anger at the "1%" into getting people to vote for one of the worst of the "1%"?
Not even if he was on fire.
Today he looks, sounds and acts like a joke. By xmas I don't think we'll be laughing at him so much after a few deadly serious moments.