I realize you're joking, but first of all Linus only has a Masters degree. Furthermore (AFAIK, please do correct if I'm mistaken) in Finland degrees can't be revoked; there was a case a while back where one politicians thesis was found to be very blatant copying from another work - yet he got to keep his PhD.
Anyway, take a look at the Aino Java cross-compiler for the PIC family. It will compile Java to run on the PIC.
Looks quite interesting. However, you are confusing terminology here. Javascript is a scripting language developed by Netscape, often abused in web pages but it has some genuine uses (form validation in the client side, for example). This is the language the original poster was referring to.
Java, on the other hand, is an object-oriented language developed by Sun - IMHO a very good language in it's own right, definitely not the right tool for every job but very suited for some; just a shame that the current Sun administration seems to be very talented in making very poor decisions. Certainly not as slow (anymore) than most people claim here.
What I've always found incredibly amusing is the fact that "the greatest democracy in the world" has effectively two political parties to choose from; both of which, from my non-American perspective, are quite right wing. Neither left wing by any global standards. Remember the Soviet Union? (no, I'm not going to make a bad joke) They were widely criticized for having just one party. The US has it better - by one.
(please note I'm not advocating the Soviet system, just an observation)
Getting way offtopic, and will probably be modded as such, but can you reccommend any sites on a bit more advanced DSP programming (in the x86 world)? The assignment itself looks interesting (I'm a mere student myself so it suits my skills also), but this is an issue I'd like to learn much more about.
Now consider what will happen if we implement "fair trade" policies. Let's say, for example, we require foreign workers to receive the same wage as American workers. Now the outsourced workers will finally receive fair compensation -- or will they?
By saying "a bit more" I didn't imply "as much"; living costs are considerably smaller in the third world. "A bit more" could be, like, 50 cents more per hour. Would it affect prices of the goods or profit margins? Definitely. Would it improve the lives of the workers? Most certainly.
Let's assume worker productivity is higher in the United States than in any third world country which has received outsourcing (And yes, that is a very safe assumption to make).
Agreed.
In that case, a company paying the same to an American worker and to an outsourced worker would be receiving more output from the American one. The company would do well to fire the foreign worker, as it could use the same amount of money to get more goods or services from the American.
Yes, if they would get the same wage. They don't. Not by far. By paying a bit more a corporation would effectively cut some of the profits gained by outsourcing, yes. So what? They are already making more profit because of outsourcing. How much more is enough?
On a side note, Fair Trade (note the capitalization) works already, not by corporations though. You can buy several products that have been produced according to the principles from many groceries. I don't know about the US, but for example I have a choice of Chiquita or Fair Trade bananas - I always go for the Fair Trade ones, mostly because they simply taste better (they're organically grown), but knowing that the farmers get a bit more doesn't hurt. That 30 cents more per kg doesn't kill my budget. YMMV.
Wasn't sure about the spelling and didn't bother to look it up. Thanks. This is, after all, the place where spelling does indeed matter and is always perfect. (not to mention that English isn't my mother tongue, voimme jatkaa tätä keskustelua suomeksikin jos tuntuu paremmalta:P)
The wording is indeed confusing. While free trade agreements do help companies to do trade between countries, as stated in other comments this agreement places severe restrictions on how certain businesses are run, and require changes in legislation. Not so free.
But not being from either.au or.us, I won't comment this further; instead I'll give an example from my area, that is the EU. They are supposedly support free trade, and it does show to an extent - within the EU it's very easy for an individual or a company to order goods from another member state. And there is a point to using Euros, it naturally helps tourism but it's especially good for small businesses that rely on importing goods. Exchange fluctuations aren't an issue if you happen to have a large cash reserve or are able to get a loan easily; not the case with many small shops.
So everything is well and good in Euroland? Nope. One major point (there are several others, just as an example) is agriculture. Member states support their local farmers a lot, while imposing severe import taxes to products coming from third world countries - agricultural products being one of their main export. Naturally the products are eventually sold in the union, and the prices are quite high too. But a large part of the sales go to the union, with mandatory VAT and that import tax. The producing countries get very little.
Now, since there isn't a free trade agreement between EU and it's African counterpart (I know there isn't (yet) an African Union as such, but it seems the policies are set on a continental level), this behaviour is within the right of the EU, although it's constantly protested in the WTO. But I find it infuriating that such a vocal supporter of free trade supports it only when it's in their interests.
Which brings me to the point, instead of free trade we should be aiming to fair trade. We give corporations a status of an individual, i.e. a corporation can own property and has to pay taxes, yet it seems that they don't have to obey the same laws that we do. Naturally the purpose of the corporation is to make profit, yes, that's the last part after '???'. Currently it seems that ??? == exploit your surroundings as much as you can. IMHO it should be more along the lines of ??? == do your business with fairness in mind. Third world countries are very poor; duh, we're keeping them that way. While it's obvious that when we employ people there they don't get the same wage as in the western world, I'm sure they could use a bit more. I'm sure they'd appreciate being able to do trade with less taxes, thus helping create an economy of their own instead of having to rely on international support and foreign companies.
But who am I kidding, this wouldn't happen even with severe governmental regulation. To do something like this would be against our very nature, and that's something that regulation just can't change. So I'll just end my rant by rasing a toast. Here's to my future job going to Estonia (the Finnish alternative for Mexico).
Plus it enables American companies to get much cheaper labour from Mexico, not to mention not having to adhere to the US environmental laws. I mean, it would actually cost them to get rid of dangerous substances properly. Untolerable. OK, so a few people get laid off back in the US. Dumb buggers, they should have realized that being a factory worker isn't reasonable in the current economic climate. We IT workers have no fear of being outsourced.
Heh, your analogue about the war on drugs (which, in my opinion, is being fought just as you described, by harassing addicts and small time pushers) just awoke the conspiracy theorist in me.
<tin foil mode> It's a known fact (among a certain crowd) that the CIA, contrary to common belief, is working right along with the Columbian cartels to get extra funding, ditto for Afghanistan (sans the cartels, and heroine instead of cocaine).
Now I've just come to realize it must be the same with spammers. So instead of trying to get to them, they just taxing them, ever so slightly. Plus I heard the male agents have much larger genitalia nowadays. Coincidence? I think not. </tin foil mode>
Yes, and my decision was based solely on this issue (well, this and privacy issues, I don't to want to be placed into a list of suspected terrorists if I fly somewhere and refuse to eat meat... then again, I'm probably already on the list).
Since you really can't count on a single person to support all of your interests, and since political parties have much more influence in the parliament than individuals, I had to pick something to base my vote on. And I really really don't want a patent system similiar to the US in the EU, if there's something I can do about it I will. Mind you, the party also mattered, but it wasn't my top priority, it might as well have been Greens (it was Socialists this time).
When I bought this PC (1 GHz Duron, quite dated I know), I had three choices for an OS: 98 SE, ME or XP. As XP had just been relased at the time (and history has shown that inital releases of any software aren't usually very reliable) I opted for ME. Big mistake, I know, but I didn't research the matter and it was just a quick decision in the shop. Needless to say, the system was a bitch to use ("Millenium Edition"? How about "Mostly Excrement"?) so I wanted to update. However, being a student, this was too costly for me.
So I pirated 2000. Yes BSA, you heard right, come and get me. And suddenly my computer was usable. Then I tried Linux; RH8, but at the time I didn't have an internet connection at home and found myself all too puzzled and not able to get the system working properly. Yes, man pages do help at times, but to a newcomer they aren't exactly friendly - forums and tutorials are generally more helpful. So I ditched Red Hat and thought I'd still be better off with my pirated Windows.
Then, about a year later, I finally got my finances in a position where I could afford DSL (my income didn't increase, I just no longer had overdue bills), and decided to give Linux another go. Since I wasn't a Unix guru by any means (I had used an ancient version RH in the mid nineties in high school, but my skills were limited to the "screen irc / pine"-level), I decided to give Mandrake a go. Liked it. Installed some more free software, found the PLF repositories, loved it (please note I'm not advocating a single distribution. Personally I find Mandrake very suitable for newcomers, and I've liked it so much that I use it to date. YMMV). Eventually got rid of Windows altogether.
Point of the story? I'll be upgrading this puter in the fall, and instead of purchasing a new computer prebuilt (and with the bundled OS), I'll just buy a mobo, new processor and new memory (the rest I've already upgraded). Even though the additional price of the OS may not matter to you working people, it sure does matter to us students (without a wealthy family anyway). Plus I don't like to pay for something that works less well than the free (both as in speech and beer) alternative; while 2000 with the latest service packs is light years ahead of ME in terms of stability, I'm still in awe of the uptimes and responsiveness of my current system. And if I'm updating anything (except the kernel) or installing new software, I don't need a reboot every fscking time.
Frankly, the latter makes more sense. Symantec will instantly be doomed once everyone becomes nice. So the future looks rosy for them.
Which brings up an important issue. Symantec (and all the other anti-virus vendors) do their best at removing malware from peoples computers. But how do you define malware? They do remove viruses/worms and trojans, but how about spyware? (yes Gator, you'd be among them. Repeat after me, spyware spyware spyware)
Only explanation I've been able to come up with so far is that companies like Claria have enough legal resources to effectively block AV companies from removing them. But really, by definition isn't malware a program that uses the resources of a puter without users concent? Clicking 'yes' in an ActiveX dialogue hardly qualifies as concent.
So I wonder, why do you have to use both AV software and anti-adware software at the same time? Shouldn't one program be able to handle both cases?
I strongly object to this! While it is obvious that Bill Gates isn't an übergeek to rival the likes of Linus, it's been widely speculated that he may be the original genius behind GORILLA.BAS
Biodiesel is renewable, yes, but it all has to come from somewhere. How much soy, or what have you needs to be grown to make a gallon of biodiesel? Is there enough arable land to make enough fuel to run the world economy in place of petroleum?
Quoting from here:
"Another fact to consider is how much meat we eat. If we feed the grain to animals to produce meat rather than eating it ourselves a large portion of the food energy is used by the animal to stay alive and move around. For example there is a 10:1 conversion factor from grain to beef for feedlot cattle and 50:1 for range cattle. Chicken is produced more economically with a conversion factor of about 2:1."
Yes, I'm a vegetarian myself, but I tried to pick a quote from a neutral site and am not trying to impose my views upon others. Just a thought.
Ok, let's get some things straight. First of all, on my original post I wasn't referring particularly to the Vega rocket, but to the general attitude that is present in the comments regarding ESA missions. Having said that, I don't find the idea of having a small scale launcher of our own that bad. Even if the field is crowded as you say, competion can't still hurt, right? Should it turn out to be too expensive when compared to alternatives or otherwise unusable, it would be a failure, granted. But the project is far from finished, how are we to know? Perhaps you have more insight on the inner workings of this project that you'd care to share with us?
Secondly, regarding the credibility of the average slashdotter, as I said in my post some people have claimed for example working for NASA, and usually I don't have a reason to belive otherwise. But I'm not that convinced by AC's who always seem to know better. And regarding Beagle 2, yes, it was mostly a British mission (you can check the list of contributing companies and individuals at http://www.beagle2.com - not all of them are British). However, how the hell would it have got to Mars in the first place were it not for ESA? Hence I'd consider it at least partially an ESA project. Furthermore, if Beagle 2 has nothing to do with ESA, how come does it get mentioned almost every time when there's an article about ESA?
Not really, two different sets of people. Set one is distro maintainers and developers. They care about Free Software. Set two is gamers who just 'have' to have the best framerate and buy the latest and greatest card and couldn't care less about licenses.
How about set three like me, who don't do any gaming (well, perhaps ScummVm and Star Control 2, but they hardly need any 3D acceleration) but do like movies and don't enjoy watching them from the monitor? I wish I could get the tv-out working on my GF3 without resorting to proprietary drivers - however, as it is, I don't seem to have a choice.
It seems every time a story gets submitted here about ESA and new technologies they're trying to develop, most of the comments are negative. Let's take a look at the discussion so far: "Useless" by AC (+4, insightful), "Is it any good?" (+3, interesting), "Why not fuel free?" (+3, interesting), "A step backward" (+3, informative)... see a pattern here?
First of all, I really have a hard time believing that your random slashdotter would have sufficient knowledge to make any intelligent observations about the projects involved (posting as AC doesn't certainly help); furthermore, even if they would have (I've seen people claim working for NASA here), ESA press relases are (naturally) very thin on technical details. After all, you wouldn't want the whole world to know all of your research, right?
OK, so there have been failed ESA projects (NASA/Russians have also failed more than once if I'm not mistaken), Beagle 2 being the latest (however it is often forgotten here that Mars Express was the real purpose of the mission). So yeah, they might be wasting my tax Euros. I wish they'd waste more! IMHO more research put into space programs ultimately helps everybody, it certainly isn't "useless".
Re-reading my comment it's neither funny or insightful:-) So I'll ellaborate.
When I got my first computer in the late 80's, it was a glorious Commodore 128. Not only did it have twice the memory of a C64, you could also run CP/M with it (yippee!). But where it shined was the advanced version of basic, with built-in sprites and stuff. I (knowning very little if nothing about programming at the time) made some crappy games with it and stuff, really nothing spectacular but it was lots of fun. However, I had read about Logo and it seemed way cooler, I just couldn't get my hands on it anywhere (AFAIR it was proprietary at the time).
Fast forward some 15+ years, for a long time I thought that programming wouldn't be my thing as I deemed it overly complex and too mathematical (mind you, I've always been good in math, just never had a particular passion for it). Then, after several years of trying to make a living as a free artist and doing low-paid part time work here and there, I decided that whattaheck, I like to spend my time with computers so I might as well get paid for doing it. So I borrowed some CS lectures from a friend (they were in C++) and started looking at them - and it was awesome. Like a revelation really. Not only did I almost instantly start to gasp it (it was a basic class, not saying that I got fluent in an instant - but it was much easier than I had thought) but I was fascinated by the steel-cold logic behind it all. No shades of grey, just zeroes and ones, true or false. While basic does offer something similiar, it just always felt so... well, basic, that it didn't seem like it was worth it.
Nowadays I'm a CS student myself, and use Java, C++ and PHP with (relative) ease. But I have to wonder, had I been exposed to a more high-level language before, would I have started my studies earlier? Would I be already employed? I'm not saying I'm bitter, I've had an interesting life so far and the reason I study CS isn't because of the money (I really really have begun to love this stuff). But basic never gave me a woody, nor did it ever get me really interested in programming. Perhaps at the time the turtle would have made a difference.
Heh, I actually found a better description via Gnome dictionary:
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Terrorism Ter"ror*ism, n. Cf. F. terrorisme.
The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode
of government by terror or intimidation.
I was very tempted to give this a rest since you obviously are not capable of having a rational discussion (I looked at your post history and you indeed seem to be frantic about arab oil money and leftism) and _especially_ since this is getting waaay offtopic (WTF has this to do with 'The World's Most Dangerous Password'?), but whattaheck. I'll try once more.
Personally I feel any death is unneeded, be they terrorists or civilians. For you see, the terrorists are humans as well, with relatives and family. While I do _not_ support their actions, their death causes grief among their loved ones. And more hatred. And more violence. Repeat ad infinitum. Again, I don't support their actions.
But this wasn't really my point. OK, let's say for the sake of argument that the EU is "the culmination of European leftist bureaucracy funded by Arab oil money". Fine, so we can dismiss their opinion. But can you name one nation, apart from USA (and Israel obviously) that supports the current policies of Israel? But hey, if you can't, the whole world is funded by Arab oil money, right?
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I realize you're joking, but first of all Linus only has a Masters degree. Furthermore (AFAIK, please do correct if I'm mistaken) in Finland degrees can't be revoked; there was a case a while back where one politicians thesis was found to be very blatant copying from another work - yet he got to keep his PhD.
Java, on the other hand, is an object-oriented language developed by Sun - IMHO a very good language in it's own right, definitely not the right tool for every job but very suited for some; just a shame that the current Sun administration seems to be very talented in making very poor decisions. Certainly not as slow (anymore) than most people claim here.
I thought the rules were:
#1 You don't talk about the lawsuit
and
#2 You don't talk about the lawsuit
(please note I'm not advocating the Soviet system, just an observation)
Getting way offtopic, and will probably be modded as such, but can you reccommend any sites on a bit more advanced DSP programming (in the x86 world)? The assignment itself looks interesting (I'm a mere student myself so it suits my skills also), but this is an issue I'd like to learn much more about.
On a side note, Fair Trade (note the capitalization) works already, not by corporations though. You can buy several products that have been produced according to the principles from many groceries. I don't know about the US, but for example I have a choice of Chiquita or Fair Trade bananas - I always go for the Fair Trade ones, mostly because they simply taste better (they're organically grown), but knowing that the farmers get a bit more doesn't hurt. That 30 cents more per kg doesn't kill my budget. YMMV.
Wasn't sure about the spelling and didn't bother to look it up. Thanks. This is, after all, the place where spelling does indeed matter and is always perfect. (not to mention that English isn't my mother tongue, voimme jatkaa tätä keskustelua suomeksikin jos tuntuu paremmalta :P)
But not being from either .au or .us, I won't comment this further; instead I'll give an example from my area, that is the EU. They are supposedly support free trade, and it does show to an extent - within the EU it's very easy for an individual or a company to order goods from another member state. And there is a point to using Euros, it naturally helps tourism but it's especially good for small businesses that rely on importing goods. Exchange fluctuations aren't an issue if you happen to have a large cash reserve or are able to get a loan easily; not the case with many small shops.
So everything is well and good in Euroland? Nope. One major point (there are several others, just as an example) is agriculture. Member states support their local farmers a lot, while imposing severe import taxes to products coming from third world countries - agricultural products being one of their main export. Naturally the products are eventually sold in the union, and the prices are quite high too. But a large part of the sales go to the union, with mandatory VAT and that import tax. The producing countries get very little.
Now, since there isn't a free trade agreement between EU and it's African counterpart (I know there isn't (yet) an African Union as such, but it seems the policies are set on a continental level), this behaviour is within the right of the EU, although it's constantly protested in the WTO. But I find it infuriating that such a vocal supporter of free trade supports it only when it's in their interests.
Which brings me to the point, instead of free trade we should be aiming to fair trade. We give corporations a status of an individual, i.e. a corporation can own property and has to pay taxes, yet it seems that they don't have to obey the same laws that we do. Naturally the purpose of the corporation is to make profit, yes, that's the last part after '???'. Currently it seems that ??? == exploit your surroundings as much as you can. IMHO it should be more along the lines of ??? == do your business with fairness in mind. Third world countries are very poor; duh, we're keeping them that way. While it's obvious that when we employ people there they don't get the same wage as in the western world, I'm sure they could use a bit more. I'm sure they'd appreciate being able to do trade with less taxes, thus helping create an economy of their own instead of having to rely on international support and foreign companies.
But who am I kidding, this wouldn't happen even with severe governmental regulation. To do something like this would be against our very nature, and that's something that regulation just can't change. So I'll just end my rant by rasing a toast. Here's to my future job going to Estonia (the Finnish alternative for Mexico).
(no, I'm not for NAFTA)
<tin foil mode>
It's a known fact (among a certain crowd) that the CIA, contrary to common belief, is working right along with the Columbian cartels to get extra funding, ditto for Afghanistan (sans the cartels, and heroine instead of cocaine).
Now I've just come to realize it must be the same with spammers. So instead of trying to get to them, they just taxing them, ever so slightly. Plus I heard the male agents have much larger genitalia nowadays. Coincidence? I think not.
</tin foil mode>
Since you really can't count on a single person to support all of your interests, and since political parties have much more influence in the parliament than individuals, I had to pick something to base my vote on. And I really really don't want a patent system similiar to the US in the EU, if there's something I can do about it I will. Mind you, the party also mattered, but it wasn't my top priority, it might as well have been Greens (it was Socialists this time).
So I pirated 2000. Yes BSA, you heard right, come and get me. And suddenly my computer was usable. Then I tried Linux; RH8, but at the time I didn't have an internet connection at home and found myself all too puzzled and not able to get the system working properly. Yes, man pages do help at times, but to a newcomer they aren't exactly friendly - forums and tutorials are generally more helpful. So I ditched Red Hat and thought I'd still be better off with my pirated Windows.
Then, about a year later, I finally got my finances in a position where I could afford DSL (my income didn't increase, I just no longer had overdue bills), and decided to give Linux another go. Since I wasn't a Unix guru by any means (I had used an ancient version RH in the mid nineties in high school, but my skills were limited to the "screen irc / pine"-level), I decided to give Mandrake a go. Liked it. Installed some more free software, found the PLF repositories, loved it (please note I'm not advocating a single distribution. Personally I find Mandrake very suitable for newcomers, and I've liked it so much that I use it to date. YMMV). Eventually got rid of Windows altogether.
Point of the story? I'll be upgrading this puter in the fall, and instead of purchasing a new computer prebuilt (and with the bundled OS), I'll just buy a mobo, new processor and new memory (the rest I've already upgraded). Even though the additional price of the OS may not matter to you working people, it sure does matter to us students (without a wealthy family anyway). Plus I don't like to pay for something that works less well than the free (both as in speech and beer) alternative; while 2000 with the latest service packs is light years ahead of ME in terms of stability, I'm still in awe of the uptimes and responsiveness of my current system. And if I'm updating anything (except the kernel) or installing new software, I don't need a reboot every fscking time.
Six times national Karate champion in Finland to be exact.
Only explanation I've been able to come up with so far is that companies like Claria have enough legal resources to effectively block AV companies from removing them. But really, by definition isn't malware a program that uses the resources of a puter without users concent? Clicking 'yes' in an ActiveX dialogue hardly qualifies as concent.
So I wonder, why do you have to use both AV software and anti-adware software at the same time? Shouldn't one program be able to handle both cases?
I strongly object to this! While it is obvious that Bill Gates isn't an übergeek to rival the likes of Linus, it's been widely speculated that he may be the original genius behind GORILLA.BAS
"Another fact to consider is how much meat we eat. If we feed the grain to animals to produce meat rather than eating it ourselves a large portion of the food energy is used by the animal to stay alive and move around. For example there is a 10:1 conversion factor from grain to beef for feedlot cattle and 50:1 for range cattle. Chicken is produced more economically with a conversion factor of about 2:1."
Yes, I'm a vegetarian myself, but I tried to pick a quote from a neutral site and am not trying to impose my views upon others. Just a thought.
Secondly, regarding the credibility of the average slashdotter, as I said in my post some people have claimed for example working for NASA, and usually I don't have a reason to belive otherwise. But I'm not that convinced by AC's who always seem to know better. And regarding Beagle 2, yes, it was mostly a British mission (you can check the list of contributing companies and individuals at http://www.beagle2.com - not all of them are British). However, how the hell would it have got to Mars in the first place were it not for ESA? Hence I'd consider it at least partially an ESA project. Furthermore, if Beagle 2 has nothing to do with ESA, how come does it get mentioned almost every time when there's an article about ESA?
Teeheehee, I thought it was the other way around? "We cannot achieve so much with such small penis, but you American wow, penis so big, so big penis!"
First of all, I really have a hard time believing that your random slashdotter would have sufficient knowledge to make any intelligent observations about the projects involved (posting as AC doesn't certainly help); furthermore, even if they would have (I've seen people claim working for NASA here), ESA press relases are (naturally) very thin on technical details. After all, you wouldn't want the whole world to know all of your research, right?
OK, so there have been failed ESA projects (NASA/Russians have also failed more than once if I'm not mistaken), Beagle 2 being the latest (however it is often forgotten here that Mars Express was the real purpose of the mission). So yeah, they might be wasting my tax Euros. I wish they'd waste more! IMHO more research put into space programs ultimately helps everybody, it certainly isn't "useless".
When I got my first computer in the late 80's, it was a glorious Commodore 128. Not only did it have twice the memory of a C64, you could also run CP/M with it (yippee!). But where it shined was the advanced version of basic, with built-in sprites and stuff. I (knowning very little if nothing about programming at the time) made some crappy games with it and stuff, really nothing spectacular but it was lots of fun. However, I had read about Logo and it seemed way cooler, I just couldn't get my hands on it anywhere (AFAIR it was proprietary at the time).
Fast forward some 15+ years, for a long time I thought that programming wouldn't be my thing as I deemed it overly complex and too mathematical (mind you, I've always been good in math, just never had a particular passion for it). Then, after several years of trying to make a living as a free artist and doing low-paid part time work here and there, I decided that whattaheck, I like to spend my time with computers so I might as well get paid for doing it. So I borrowed some CS lectures from a friend (they were in C++) and started looking at them - and it was awesome. Like a revelation really. Not only did I almost instantly start to gasp it (it was a basic class, not saying that I got fluent in an instant - but it was much easier than I had thought) but I was fascinated by the steel-cold logic behind it all. No shades of grey, just zeroes and ones, true or false. While basic does offer something similiar, it just always felt so... well, basic, that it didn't seem like it was worth it.
Nowadays I'm a CS student myself, and use Java, C++ and PHP with (relative) ease. But I have to wonder, had I been exposed to a more high-level language before, would I have started my studies earlier? Would I be already employed? I'm not saying I'm bitter, I've had an interesting life so far and the reason I study CS isn't because of the money (I really really have begun to love this stuff). But basic never gave me a woody, nor did it ever get me really interested in programming. Perhaps at the time the turtle would have made a difference.
Hmm, I'm not sure if I intended that to be funny or insightful...
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Terrorism Ter"ror*ism, n. Cf. F. terrorisme.
The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized;
a mode of government by terror or intimidation.
The latter seems to be a better explanation.
Personally I feel any death is unneeded, be they terrorists or civilians. For you see, the terrorists are humans as well, with relatives and family. While I do _not_ support their actions, their death causes grief among their loved ones. And more hatred. And more violence. Repeat ad infinitum. Again, I don't support their actions.
But this wasn't really my point. OK, let's say for the sake of argument that the EU is "the culmination of European leftist bureaucracy funded by Arab oil money". Fine, so we can dismiss their opinion. But can you name one nation, apart from USA (and Israel obviously) that supports the current policies of Israel? But hey, if you can't, the whole world is funded by Arab oil money, right?