I don't know if I would say horrifically slow, but it is probably 2-3 times slower than a comparable RDP connection. Maybe someone who knows more about the RDP protocol can illuminate the reasons why?
Some have said it's because it uses windows calls, etc. but if that were the case how come the free rdesktop works so well from linux connecting to my win2K boxes?
He is smart enough to know how to setup up inetd to launch VNC, but not smart enough to realize that that is the stupidest way to do it? Since, yes it shuts itself down when the connection is dropped. The other posters show the way any intelligent person would set up VNC.
Since we are throwing out ancedotal evidence, my Mandrake box which started as 7.x has been upgraded all the way through and is now at 10.0 community. It runs rock solid stable while playing UT2004, and records TV programs at 640x480 30fps for weeks on end without rebooting or ever having to look twice at it.
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Mandrake 10.
Get all the things you need installed off the bat, much less configuration to do after install and it just plain works.
I have gotten tired of the bugs in the official Red Hat releases, tulip drivers anyone? Why would I want to install some community built but still IP crippled distribution?
Suse - The FTP install option kinda bites. I'd rather download my isos, thanks.
Gentoo - get a life, who has the time...
Debian - how out of date could it be? Yes I can update it but again, who has the time...
Redhat 9 - it's dead, remember?
I think the Gentoo and Debian distros have good purposes and suit some people well, but I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would be wasting their time with Fedora.
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First, people eat things other than beef for energy, except the Atkins people of course. You are correct in that it takes a lot of energy to produce the food we feed the cow to get the beef. If you cut out the middle man (or cow) and just eat the dang food yourself, it's a little bit more efficient.
And a human being on a bicycle is ludicrously more efficient than any other form of transportation based on energy expended vs. miles traveled. Nothing else even comes close to as efficient, and you don't need bio-diesel, just eat the fries yourself!
Huh, this statement makes no sense.
Debian is fine once you get it working, but I think the poster stated he did want to spend hours downloading packages and then additional hours setting them up by hand.
I am writing this on my desktop, which started as Mandrake 7.2 and has been updated with every release to 9.2 using the upgrade install option. Works well, a kink or two in urpmi with my custom package depots but other than that nothing has ever broken my system. Nvidia drivers do need to be updated with the new kernel version, though.
And urpmi is terrible, can't say enough bad things about it. I miss the short period of time when apt-get actually worked on Mandrake, because it absolutely kicks urpmi all over the place. Not enough to make me want to deal with Debian though. I have a life beyond updating and configuring my distro constantly.
I have been using JSPager which does exactly what this patent says. I have used it on my Windows boxes since way before 2002. Dare I say, 'Patently Ridiculous'
OK, I have contributed a couple lines of code to several software projects. I now insist that my name is included into infinity with every release of that software? Doesn't that seem a little unreasonable? You would quickly end up with a comments section that would be longer than the actual code.
This whole thing smacks of massive egos on the part of the XFree86 guys.
A little off topic, but you can buy a tool from ross-tech.com and other places to connect to the serial port on a laptop to do your own diagnostic checking. In the DC area it saves me a whole lot of time and money waiting on appointments at the mechanics...
Uh, isn't that what the dashboard with all the gauges is for?
But yes, it should which is why my VW Passat wagon with a PC in the trunk playing oggs through the head unit does connect to the VW diagnostic port(kinda inelegant hanging out of the dash but). Of course since the software for it only runs on windows (my car runs linux, of course) I haven't got it to really do anything yet. One of these days I'll add that in, but debugging my custom mp3 playing software (using mpd as the player) and internet connection is taking all my time.
For what it's worth, I have run a USB cable up to the front to connect my pda which I can use to access video files and such I have copied over the 802.11 connection from my car to my home network.
So yes, I can ssh to my car from my desk, MUHAHAHAHA........
So you could buy an xbox, add a wifi card and then you're at what, $275 or so? And you still have quite a bit of hacking to get it working.....
Now if you had said you could get a Via-EPIA board for $100 and add a $25 wifi card, you may have had a point.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any benefits this model would have for the end user. It has quite a few benefits for corporations and content producers, which doesn't automatically make it a bad thing, but consumers don't want/need it unless it is legislated into a requirement.
Market forces will shoot this down except in some very limited high security situations. The only way the public will accept it is if a monopoly forces it down they're throats.
Trusted computing has very little to do with security and almost everything to with DRM.
Similar != exactly the same
Usage:
net time to view or set time information
net lookup to lookup host name or ip address
net user to manage users
net group to manage groups
net groupmap to manage group mappings
net join to join a domain
net cache to operate on cache tdb file
net getlocalsid [NAME] to get the SID for local name
net setlocalsid SID to set the local domain SID
net ads to run ADS commands
net rap to run RAP (pre-RPC) commands
net rpc to run RPC commands
Type "net help " to get more information on that option
Valid targets: choose one (none defaults to localhost)
-S or --server= server name
-I or --ipaddress= address of target server
-w or --workgroup= target workgroup or domain
Valid miscellaneous options are:
-p or --port= connection port on target
-W or --myworkgroup= client workgroup
-d or --debuglevel= debug level (0-10)
-n or --myname= client name
-U or --user= user name
-s or --configfile= pathname of smb.conf file
-l or --long Display full information
-V or --version Print samba version information
-P or --machine-pass Authenticate as machine account
Yes, use pam and the winbind. I can ssh to my samba box and authenticate against Active Directory. There are how tos out there, here are a few links I used.
http://www.netadmintools.com/part172.html
http://www.flatmtn.com/computer/Linux-Samba3.html
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/winbind.html
I don't know if I would say horrifically slow, but it is probably 2-3 times slower than a comparable RDP connection. Maybe someone who knows more about the RDP protocol can illuminate the reasons why?
Some have said it's because it uses windows calls, etc. but if that were the case how come the free rdesktop works so well from linux connecting to my win2K boxes?
He is smart enough to know how to setup up inetd to launch VNC, but not smart enough to realize that that is the stupidest way to do it? Since, yes it shuts itself down when the connection is dropped. The other posters show the way any intelligent person would set up VNC.
Huh, not sure about the slow part, I still managed to frag you last night in UT2004....
Since we are throwing out ancedotal evidence, my Mandrake box which started as 7.x has been upgraded all the way through and is now at 10.0 community. It runs rock solid stable while playing UT2004, and records TV programs at 640x480 30fps for weeks on end without rebooting or ever having to look twice at it.
Mandrake 10.
Get all the things you need installed off the bat, much less configuration to do after install and it just plain works.
I have gotten tired of the bugs in the official Red Hat releases, tulip drivers anyone? Why would I want to install some community built but still IP crippled distribution?
Suse - The FTP install option kinda bites. I'd rather download my isos, thanks.
Gentoo - get a life, who has the time...
Debian - how out of date could it be? Yes I can update it but again, who has the time...
Redhat 9 - it's dead, remember?
I think the Gentoo and Debian distros have good purposes and suit some people well, but I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would be wasting their time with Fedora.
First, people eat things other than beef for energy, except the Atkins people of course. You are correct in that it takes a lot of energy to produce the food we feed the cow to get the beef. If you cut out the middle man (or cow) and just eat the dang food yourself, it's a little bit more efficient.
And a human being on a bicycle is ludicrously more efficient than any other form of transportation based on energy expended vs. miles traveled. Nothing else even comes close to as efficient, and you don't need bio-diesel, just eat the fries yourself!
Huh, this statement makes no sense. Debian is fine once you get it working, but I think the poster stated he did want to spend hours downloading packages and then additional hours setting them up by hand.
Oh so true, it's like how the left wingers call every soldier a war criminal and every meat eater a murderer.
Almost enough to make you want to be a Republican...ok, not really.
Linux does run on a PC and plays games, so doesn't it already play PC games?
Or is my memory of fraggin your ass all last night in UT2004 just a hallucination?
I am writing this on my desktop, which started as Mandrake 7.2 and has been updated with every release to 9.2 using the upgrade install option. Works well, a kink or two in urpmi with my custom package depots but other than that nothing has ever broken my system. Nvidia drivers do need to be updated with the new kernel version, though.
And urpmi is terrible, can't say enough bad things about it. I miss the short period of time when apt-get actually worked on Mandrake, because it absolutely kicks urpmi all over the place. Not enough to make me want to deal with Debian though. I have a life beyond updating and configuring my distro constantly.
I have been using JSPager which does exactly what this patent says. I have used it on my Windows boxes since way before 2002. Dare I say, 'Patently Ridiculous'
OK, I have contributed a couple lines of code to several software projects. I now insist that my name is included into infinity with every release of that software? Doesn't that seem a little unreasonable? You would quickly end up with a comments section that would be longer than the actual code.
This whole thing smacks of massive egos on the part of the XFree86 guys.
A little off topic, but you can buy a tool from ross-tech.com and other places to connect to the serial port on a laptop to do your own diagnostic checking. In the DC area it saves me a whole lot of time and money waiting on appointments at the mechanics...
Uh, isn't that what the dashboard with all the gauges is for?
But yes, it should which is why my VW Passat wagon with a PC in the trunk playing oggs through the head unit does connect to the VW diagnostic port(kinda inelegant hanging out of the dash but). Of course since the software for it only runs on windows (my car runs linux, of course) I haven't got it to really do anything yet. One of these days I'll add that in, but debugging my custom mp3 playing software (using mpd as the player) and internet connection is taking all my time.
For what it's worth, I have run a USB cable up to the front to connect my pda which I can use to access video files and such I have copied over the 802.11 connection from my car to my home network.
So yes, I can ssh to my car from my desk, MUHAHAHAHA........
Kill Bill...Greatest movie ever made...nuff said...
You are retarded right? The movies you picked are all great, bu do you really think Jesus spoke english?
RTA OK, too much to ask a slashdot user They use a program 'Agenda Management System' that requires Office to run.
So you could buy an xbox, add a wifi card and then you're at what, $275 or so? And you still have quite a bit of hacking to get it working..... Now if you had said you could get a Via-EPIA board for $100 and add a $25 wifi card, you may have had a point.
Pretty clear it is using encryption.....
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any benefits this model would have for the end user. It has quite a few benefits for corporations and content producers, which doesn't automatically make it a bad thing, but consumers don't want/need it unless it is legislated into a requirement.
Market forces will shoot this down except in some very limited high security situations. The only way the public will accept it is if a monopoly forces it down they're throats.
Trusted computing has very little to do with security and almost everything to with DRM.
Similar != exactly the same Usage: net time to view or set time information net lookup to lookup host name or ip address net user to manage users net group to manage groups net groupmap to manage group mappings net join to join a domain net cache to operate on cache tdb file net getlocalsid [NAME] to get the SID for local name net setlocalsid SID to set the local domain SID net ads to run ADS commands net rap to run RAP (pre-RPC) commands net rpc to run RPC commands Type "net help " to get more information on that option Valid targets: choose one (none defaults to localhost) -S or --server= server name -I or --ipaddress= address of target server -w or --workgroup= target workgroup or domain Valid miscellaneous options are: -p or --port= connection port on target -W or --myworkgroup= client workgroup -d or --debuglevel= debug level (0-10) -n or --myname= client name -U or --user= user name -s or --configfile= pathname of smb.conf file -l or --long Display full information -V or --version Print samba version information -P or --machine-pass Authenticate as machine account
Yes, use pam and the winbind. I can ssh to my samba box and authenticate against Active Directory. There are how tos out there, here are a few links I used. http://www.netadmintools.com/part172.html http://www.flatmtn.com/computer/Linux-Samba3.html http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/winbind.html
And even XMMS had to hack the file dialog to create a usable directory tree interface (I know cause I borrowed it for GRio500)....