No. It wasn't any sort of active attempt at hacking. It wasn't breaking any encryption. Even the EFF admits it was probably unintended.
Saying Google "used a loophole" is just a loaded way of saying Safari had a bug. The technique had been known for at least two years, and was used by companies other than Google.
"is there any reason for PC users to consider this OS"
Didn't you see the headline? Windows 8 is going to read the manual for you! No longer will people be able to tell you "RTFM!," because it's already been done for you.
Thanks for that. People should be free to choose, even if I disagree with their choice. Outlook, however, pretty much forces top posting. It doesn't really give you a choice.
"Seems like an argument for doing away with brick and mortar schools since you can't really concentrate."
I suppose it depends on the goal. Do you want a degree to improve the chances of getting a job (I'm looking at you, Liberal Arts)? Or, do you want to learn something that you can apply to the real world?
No, the a2 is not the machine I'm thinking of. The AIM had a 1 line alpha-numeric "display." It did not include a case, although they would sell you one. It did not have a power supply, although they would sell you the 4 voltage regulated one it required along with an expensive metal case. The Apple I had integrated 40x24 video. The Apple I was not "a bag of parts," it came fully assembled, other than keyboard, TV/monitor, and a couple of transformers. The Altair/IMSAI/Poly/etc. needed an expensive add-on I/O card, and were used primarily with external terminals (ASR-33, I/O Selectric, or ADM-3a, only $900+), although you could get video out for a couple hundred $$. If you want to point to a S-100 system with influence, it would have to be the SOL-20, which was a nicely packaged all-in-one system, with keyboard and video, but it was $1500 assembled.
...and yet you pointed to the Altair, which really had little influence. Yes, it was first, but left no lasting legacy (S-100 was pretty much dead by the time the IBM PC came out). It's not as if microcomputers wouldn't exist if the Altair hadn't appeared. And where is Altair (or IMSAI, or Polymorphic Systems, or North Star, or Morrow, or Cromemco, etc. now? Clearly, the plain fact that Apple is the largest tech company in the world makes its first product one of lasting importance.
The Apple I was much closer to a modern all-in-one system, you didn't need to add much to be functional. Keyboard and display, about the same as today, and a transformer for power. As I already said, it was the Apple ][, PET, and TRS-80 which made microcomputers pretty much plug and play.
And the real advantage of the A2 was the availability of lower cost, higher capacity, easier to use disk drives, along with the ability to support significant on-board RAM expansion. That in turn made Visicalc practical. Even though it was first on the Apple ][, Visicalc simply didn't work as well on a PET or TRS-80.
Did you look at the topic you're responding to? I perhaps wasn't clear enough. What MUAs for which I can expect future development, support IMAP with local mbox?
Except that bottom (or inline) posters are much more likely to trim the quotes, because they have to look as part of the response. Top posters tend to simply reply, leaving massive amounts of cruft below, which the recipient usually has from previous emails, anyway.
In any case, it should be a choice available to the user, and Lookout, by design, makes it almost impossible to do anything except top post.
mbox is just an ASCII file. maildir imposes some requirements for allowable directory names. Moving mbox files is just moving the file. maildir entails moving a directory structure, and multiple files. mbox is efficient, a bunch of emails in a single file. maildir creates a file for every email. mbox is simply easier to deal with for archiving emails.
Yes, you can. But no good (read: standardized) way of archiving it locally. Do you know of an IMAP client which will allow you to move emails to local mbox storage, and allow easy/quick search? (maildir is too OS specific)
I used Thunderbird for a while. Had to remove it after I got mad enough at it. The rich text editor in it was broken - it refused to use fonts that I wanted, reverting back at every opportunity.
I bet you top post, too. (of course you do, Lookout pretty much forces that, damn noobs)
Eudora still works pretty well. And it would be great, if Mozilla had simply spent resources on updating it, instead of ripping it down to the frame and rebuilding it as TBird, then trying to get it back as Penelope/Eudora OSE. None of those were even close to as good as Eudora, especially in UI. When I finally switched to TBird, it simply couldn't do what Eudora could, especially with filtering, which forced me to learn and use server side procmail.
Actually, the Apple I was quite competitive. For $245, you could have a KIM-1, with a calculator keypad and 6 7-segment LEDs, and a slow cassette interface for I/O (you could also connect a TTY and there were programmable TTL ports), and a pretty basic monitor (CLI monitor, not video monitor). It had a bit over 1K of memory, all other expansion was off board. And you had to provide regulated power supplies.
The Apple I, for $667, got you 40x24 NTSC output, easy connection to an ASCII keyboard, on-board voltage regulators, and 4K of memory (expandable to 8K on board).
The Altair was much more expensive, well over $1000 for a usable system (cpu, memory and any i/o other than the front panel), as were the later S-100 systems (the IMSAI, Poly-88, SOL, etc.). It was also huge compared to the KIM-1 or Apple I.
But it was 1977, and the trio of Apple ][, Commodore PET 2001, and Radio Shack TRS-80 when things really took off. Those three made it possible for people with no soldering skills to get involved.
The Federal Reserve is effectively a private institution, given extraordinary power by the government. It is not subject to any significant public oversight. Eliminating the "Fed" would entail a return to the US government issuing currency and controlling monetary policy in a public manner. There's no need to "create an alternative body for creating dollars." It's currently the case "that only private banks [i.e. the Fed are...] able to create money." Ron Paul is also a proponent for a return to a gold backed currency.
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So, every website that asks your browser to store a cookie is evil? You really don't have a clue. Buh bye.
Does it hurt when you stretch that far?
Nothing about the cookies Google placed had anything remotely to do with hacking or computer abuse or fraud.
Since when is a browser a website?
No. It wasn't any sort of active attempt at hacking. It wasn't breaking any encryption. Even the EFF admits it was probably unintended.
Saying Google "used a loophole" is just a loaded way of saying Safari had a bug. The technique had been known for at least two years, and was used by companies other than Google.
Balmer is tacitly admitting that the previous policy was to have Apple innovate, then copy them.
"is there any reason for PC users to consider this OS"
Didn't you see the headline? Windows 8 is going to read the manual for you! No longer will people be able to tell you "RTFM!," because it's already been done for you.
For a guy who expounds COBOL, you're consistent.
"As for it's influence, I can't find any."
Your problem, not mine. Ref: Kilobaud #2.
"Both posting orders have its place."
Thanks for that. People should be free to choose, even if I disagree with their choice. Outlook, however, pretty much forces top posting. It doesn't really give you a choice.
Without wires, obviously. How hard can it be to not install wires?
Dentist? I want to know if TIME dotcom is related to Kim Dotcom.
"Seems like an argument for doing away with brick and mortar schools since you can't really concentrate."
I suppose it depends on the goal. Do you want a degree to improve the chances of getting a job (I'm looking at you, Liberal Arts)? Or, do you want to learn something that you can apply to the real world?
Pine hasn't been developed since 2006. Alpine since 2008. Although I don't send HTML/graphics emails, I do need to be able to view them.
No, the a2 is not the machine I'm thinking of. The AIM had a 1 line alpha-numeric "display." It did not include a case, although they would sell you one. It did not have a power supply, although they would sell you the 4 voltage regulated one it required along with an expensive metal case. The Apple I had integrated 40x24 video. The Apple I was not "a bag of parts," it came fully assembled, other than keyboard, TV/monitor, and a couple of transformers. The Altair/IMSAI/Poly/etc. needed an expensive add-on I/O card, and were used primarily with external terminals (ASR-33, I/O Selectric, or ADM-3a, only $900+), although you could get video out for a couple hundred $$. If you want to point to a S-100 system with influence, it would have to be the SOL-20, which was a nicely packaged all-in-one system, with keyboard and video, but it was $1500 assembled.
...and yet you pointed to the Altair, which really had little influence. Yes, it was first, but left no lasting legacy (S-100 was pretty much dead by the time the IBM PC came out). It's not as if microcomputers wouldn't exist if the Altair hadn't appeared. And where is Altair (or IMSAI, or Polymorphic Systems, or North Star, or Morrow, or Cromemco, etc. now? Clearly, the plain fact that Apple is the largest tech company in the world makes its first product one of lasting importance.
The Apple I was much closer to a modern all-in-one system, you didn't need to add much to be functional. Keyboard and display, about the same as today, and a transformer for power. As I already said, it was the Apple ][, PET, and TRS-80 which made microcomputers pretty much plug and play.
And the real advantage of the A2 was the availability of lower cost, higher capacity, easier to use disk drives, along with the ability to support significant on-board RAM expansion. That in turn made Visicalc practical. Even though it was first on the Apple ][, Visicalc simply didn't work as well on a PET or TRS-80.
Did you look at the topic you're responding to? I perhaps wasn't clear enough. What MUAs for which I can expect future development, support IMAP with local mbox?
Except that bottom (or inline) posters are much more likely to trim the quotes, because they have to look as part of the response. Top posters tend to simply reply, leaving massive amounts of cruft below, which the recipient usually has from previous emails, anyway.
In any case, it should be a choice available to the user, and Lookout, by design, makes it almost impossible to do anything except top post.
mbox is just an ASCII file. maildir imposes some requirements for allowable directory names. Moving mbox files is just moving the file. maildir entails moving a directory structure, and multiple files. mbox is efficient, a bunch of emails in a single file. maildir creates a file for every email. mbox is simply easier to deal with for archiving emails.
Yes, you can. But no good (read: standardized) way of archiving it locally. Do you know of an IMAP client which will allow you to move emails to local mbox storage, and allow easy/quick search? (maildir is too OS specific)
POP3 > IMAP
I bet you top post, too. (of course you do, Lookout pretty much forces that, damn noobs)
Eudora still works pretty well. And it would be great, if Mozilla had simply spent resources on updating it, instead of ripping it down to the frame and rebuilding it as TBird, then trying to get it back as Penelope/Eudora OSE. None of those were even close to as good as Eudora, especially in UI. When I finally switched to TBird, it simply couldn't do what Eudora could, especially with filtering, which forced me to learn and use server side procmail.
Actually, the Apple I was quite competitive. For $245, you could have a KIM-1, with a calculator keypad and 6 7-segment LEDs, and a slow cassette interface for I/O (you could also connect a TTY and there were programmable TTL ports), and a pretty basic monitor (CLI monitor, not video monitor). It had a bit over 1K of memory, all other expansion was off board. And you had to provide regulated power supplies.
The Apple I, for $667, got you 40x24 NTSC output, easy connection to an ASCII keyboard, on-board voltage regulators, and 4K of memory (expandable to 8K on board).
The Altair was much more expensive, well over $1000 for a usable system (cpu, memory and any i/o other than the front panel), as were the later S-100 systems (the IMSAI, Poly-88, SOL, etc.). It was also huge compared to the KIM-1 or Apple I.
But it was 1977, and the trio of Apple ][, Commodore PET 2001, and Radio Shack TRS-80 when things really took off. Those three made it possible for people with no soldering skills to get involved.
The Federal Reserve is effectively a private institution, given extraordinary power by the government. It is not subject to any significant public oversight. Eliminating the "Fed" would entail a return to the US government issuing currency and controlling monetary policy in a public manner. There's no need to "create an alternative body for creating dollars." It's currently the case "that only private banks [i.e. the Fed are...] able to create money." Ron Paul is also a proponent for a return to a gold backed currency.