And that's what we call politics. The only ones that haven't flip-flopped are Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. I think the real elections should be about those two competitors.
To develop much of the technology and necessary knowledge in the first place, probably. But to take it further and bring the costs down to within reach of more people, the private sector probably has a better chance. There's a role for both.
How exactly do you feed people on the journey to Mars, what do they eat when they finally get there, and what type of food will even survive that long?
Dude, canned food was invented over 200 years ago. Many military field reserve rations have a 20+ year shelf life. For a Mars colony you probably have to grow food but for a field mission you can bring freeze dried food and reuse filtered water. I see our current day rations are 3-400 grams freeze dried, 100-150 kg and you're good for a year.
Thank you for repeating your argument. I can now see it multiple times. Although, I am interested in hearing about how a supercomputer is going to lift Indians out of poverty.
Yeah. What the hell did Apollo ever do to make life better for Americans, eh?
I believe the original post's argument was that India would be better served spending the money on basic infrastructure. While a supercomputer is great, it's not going to pay the same dividends that clean drinking water and reliable power would. Not only do those very basic utilities reduce healthcare costs, they are productivity multipliers and would benefit the Indian economy greatly.
*Rolleyes*
FFS sake would you people give it a fucking rest?!
What the hell is it about India that brings out the "social programs and public works are the answer to the country's problems" crowd who always seem to be skeptical of exactly that sort of spending when it comes to the USA? There are problems with basic infrastructure in England but I don't see anyone suggesting that their R&D budget should be slashed and the funds diverted to roads, hospitals, schools and all the other usual "think of the children" suspects!
Read my lips and listen very carefully because this bears repeating:
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty. Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty. Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty. Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty. Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
The problem with India is, "India wants to do it". It is not the scientists or researchers in a university or institute in India who will do it, but a telecommunication minister. Till this mentality dissipates and the government bets on the independent institutions in India to come up with such headlines, India is going nowhere.
Yeah. As I sit here posting on the internet via the World Wide Web I have to ask, what innovations has government ever produced?
(*) Technical innovation in a developing country ( ) Product shipped to a developing market ( ) General discussion about IT in the devbeloping world
The location is:
( ) Africa (*) India ( ) Bangladesh ( ) China ( ) Somewhere else in Asia ( ) South America ( ) Central America ( ) Other _unspecified_
You're objecting to it on the basis that:
(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in that country yet ( ) American jobs will be lost
Your argument is bogus because:
(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in the developed world either, that doesn't mean we should halt all technological research (*) This will not adversely affect any efforts to alleviate poverty (*) This will help to alleviate poverty ( ) Poverty in that country isn't as widespread as you say it is ( ) The US does not have a divine right to keep all the cool jobs
No, let the assholes see it and get used to it because it's here to stay. And fuck the US Governent condemning it like it did with those cartoons. It started with Bush's bullshit that Islam is the "religion of peace" and continues to this day. It's not.
So, who's up for making a browser addon that automatically cross-references online political ads to various fact checking sites? Then maybe overlays a nice helpful graph or color to tell you how much BS you're being fed...Or just get adblock+ and opt out of it all.
Nice idea, but Republicans would probably ban it to prevent "voter fraud" or something.
Also this seems the article may be pushing the conclusions a bit to far. If my online "friend" votes and it motivates me to vote it doesn't necessarily translate to me voting for the guy he voted for. If there is a strong correlation between online friends and their party affiliations then it may make sense. But I think we try to keep our party preference away from friends - its easy to lose one or the other.
Well who needs research conducted on a vast group of people when you've got a personal anecdote about how you think you're motivated?
The article says "0.39% more likely to vote than those who received messages with no social information" which suggests to me social information made very little difference rather than the opposite?
If you keep reading you'll find it saying "That translates to an additional 282,000 votes cast,..."
If this election is as tight as the polls are now, this is significant. Every vote counts, as we learned in 2000 in Florida.
People who received messages alerting them that their friends had voted were 0.39% more likely to vote than those who received messages with no social information. That translates to an additional 282,000 votes cast,
With elections being as tight as they have been in the last 15 years, and with the coming presidential election looking every bit as tight, this could be enough to make a significant difference.
Pretty much. So much for Islam being a "religion of peace." And you know what really grinds my gears? The people who trot out the old line about how this kind of atrocity is a "perversion" of Islam. It's shit all of the sort. Anyone who has actually read the Hadith will know that it's full of hundreds of exhortations to attack and kill infidels. We're not talking one little quote tucked away in the middle of a parable here, we're talking about the thing being riddled with explicit instructions to destroy infidels. These murdering mucksavages are just following orders handed down to them by their imaginary friend in the sky.
The Cold War was peace and harmony compared to this Islamic fundamentalist shit. This is fucking terrifying.
The German Autobahn's have no speed limits in rural areas. I have driven at 160 Kph (i.e., 100 mph) and been routinely passed by faster vehicles. In fact, if you are in the left lane at that speed, they may get pretty annoyed with you if you don't get over immediately.
Thanks, that reminded me of something I've been wanting to tell the people I share the roads with:
When you're piddling along in the left lane, and you see a car coming up on you fast, flashing their lights, it means you need to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY - not slow down and stay in the passing lane, not pace the car next to you, and definitely not slam on your fucking brakes.
The next one of you monkey-fuckers that tries to kill me just because you're too goddamn selfish or stupid to understand why it's called the passing lane is getting run off the road and beaten with cudgels.
Capisce?
That's some pretty dangerous advice. Flashing lights mean different things in different parts of the world. In England it means "come on out, be my guest." In Germany it means "Coming through, make a hole." In America there's no such clarity about what it means.
"Global warming" as the term is generally used is not science. It's a political program. It's true that measured temperatures are higher than the last hundred years or so. That's a fact. But the "why it's happening" is not science, it's conjecture (I deliberately don't use the word theory, because I respect theory).
Sure. And evolution by natural selection hasn't been proven yet either, has it?
Anti-vaccination vegans haven't exactly taken over the Democratic party now, have they? They just don't have enough voting strength because they're confined to the fringe. The fact is, right wingers are way more prone to paranoid thinking and rejection of reality than liberals.
We notice that all of the mentioned 'science' issues are tied to public policy positions of the left and that the 'scientists' are working outside their areas of expertise when they push policy solutions to the problems they 'find.'
Whole lines of research were simply forbidden as career ending. Consipracy theories almost always pop up in vacumns of fact, especially when it is pretty obvious that facts are suspected but being supressed.
So... is your post some kind of satire, or what?
Bloody good question. These right wing nut jobs are so far out there these days that it's hard to tell the satirists from the real deal.
Why would one want all kids to know programming? We don't require all kids to know automotive design or repair, nor manufacturing techniques for flat panel displays, nor cellphone antenna design, etc.
Programming uses math? Well some arithmetic, surely, but usually not much else.
Perhaps some sort of a fun introductory course might be good as it might spark interest in programming for some students, though.
An introductory course for 6 year olds? What a great idea! If only TFS said exactly that.
Computer programming is not such a fundamental area of study that it deserves to be elevated to the level of "math", "reading" and "writing". To a large extent this is a zero sum game. To teach programming in primary school necessarily crowds out something else. History? Foreign language? Music? Some subject other than "computer programming" is getting the shaft.
Robots don't have the capacity to suffer? Neither do corporations, but they're "people, my friend." I wouldn't put it past SCOTUS or some other branch of the US government to grant rights like this. Stranger things have happened.
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And that's what we call politics. The only ones that haven't flip-flopped are Gary Johnson and Ron Paul. I think the real elections should be about those two competitors.
I don't.
Bottom line is, if you can't afford insurance, you have no business getting free health care financed by the rest of us. Find a free clinic.
And who pays for this "free" clinic?
Would we be better served via the public sector?
To develop much of the technology and necessary knowledge in the first place, probably. But to take it further and bring the costs down to within reach of more people, the private sector probably has a better chance. There's a role for both.
How exactly do you feed people on the journey to Mars, what do they eat when they finally get there, and what type of food will even survive that long?
Dude, canned food was invented over 200 years ago. Many military field reserve rations have a 20+ year shelf life. For a Mars colony you probably have to grow food but for a field mission you can bring freeze dried food and reuse filtered water. I see our current day rations are 3-400 grams freeze dried, 100-150 kg and you're good for a year.
Better remember to bring a can opener then.
Huh?
"Flamebait" my ass.
Isn't a supercomputer a "public works" project?
Thank you for repeating your argument. I can now see it multiple times. Although, I am interested in hearing about how a supercomputer is going to lift Indians out of poverty.
Yeah. What the hell did Apollo ever do to make life better for Americans, eh?
FFS.
I believe the original post's argument was that India would be better served spending the money on basic infrastructure. While a supercomputer is great, it's not going to pay the same dividends that clean drinking water and reliable power would. Not only do those very basic utilities reduce healthcare costs, they are productivity multipliers and would benefit the Indian economy greatly.
*Rolleyes*
FFS sake would you people give it a fucking rest?!
What the hell is it about India that brings out the "social programs and public works are the answer to the country's problems" crowd who always seem to be skeptical of exactly that sort of spending when it comes to the USA? There are problems with basic infrastructure in England but I don't see anyone suggesting that their R&D budget should be slashed and the funds diverted to roads, hospitals, schools and all the other usual "think of the children" suspects!
Read my lips and listen very carefully because this bears repeating:
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
Investing in R&D is the best way to lift people out of poverty.
Capiche?
The problem with India is, "India wants to do it". It is not the scientists or researchers in a university or institute in India who will do it, but a telecommunication minister. Till this mentality dissipates and the government bets on the independent institutions in India to come up with such headlines, India is going nowhere.
Yeah. As I sit here posting on the internet via the World Wide Web I have to ask, what innovations has government ever produced?
You're responding to a post about a:
(*) Technical innovation in a developing country
( ) Product shipped to a developing market
( ) General discussion about IT in the devbeloping world
The location is:
( ) Africa
(*) India
( ) Bangladesh
( ) China
( ) Somewhere else in Asia
( ) South America
( ) Central America
( ) Other _unspecified_
You're objecting to it on the basis that:
(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in that country yet
( ) American jobs will be lost
Your argument is bogus because:
(*) Poverty hasn't been eliminated in the developed world either, that doesn't mean we should halt all technological research
(*) This will not adversely affect any efforts to alleviate poverty
(*) This will help to alleviate poverty
( ) Poverty in that country isn't as widespread as you say it is
( ) The US does not have a divine right to keep all the cool jobs
No, let the assholes see it and get used to it because it's here to stay. And fuck the US Governent condemning it like it did with those cartoons. It started with Bush's bullshit that Islam is the "religion of peace" and continues to this day. It's not.
The actual trailer is just stupid. Better is Sam Harris Fundamentals of Islam (9 min):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YDKv7xudLE
or the full version (82 mins):
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/EndofFa
Careful now. I got modded to death the other day for daring to suggest the same thing.
So, who's up for making a browser addon that automatically cross-references online political ads to various fact checking sites? ..Or just get adblock+ and opt out of it all.
Then maybe overlays a nice helpful graph or color to tell you how much BS you're being fed.
Nice idea, but Republicans would probably ban it to prevent "voter fraud" or something.
Also this seems the article may be pushing the conclusions a bit to far. If my online "friend" votes and it motivates me to vote it doesn't necessarily translate to me voting for the guy he voted for. If there is a strong correlation between online friends and their party affiliations then it may make sense. But I think we try to keep our party preference away from friends - its easy to lose one or the other.
Well who needs research conducted on a vast group of people when you've got a personal anecdote about how you think you're motivated?
The article says "0.39% more likely to vote than those who received messages with no social information" which suggests to me social information made very little difference rather than the opposite?
If you keep reading you'll find it saying "That translates to an additional 282,000 votes cast, ..."
If this election is as tight as the polls are now, this is significant. Every vote counts, as we learned in 2000 in Florida.
Quoth TFA:
People who received messages alerting them that their friends had voted were 0.39% more likely to vote than those who received messages with no social information. That translates to an additional 282,000 votes cast,
With elections being as tight as they have been in the last 15 years, and with the coming presidential election looking every bit as tight, this could be enough to make a significant difference.
Pretty much. So much for Islam being a "religion of peace." And you know what really grinds my gears? The people who trot out the old line about how this kind of atrocity is a "perversion" of Islam. It's shit all of the sort. Anyone who has actually read the Hadith will know that it's full of hundreds of exhortations to attack and kill infidels. We're not talking one little quote tucked away in the middle of a parable here, we're talking about the thing being riddled with explicit instructions to destroy infidels. These murdering mucksavages are just following orders handed down to them by their imaginary friend in the sky.
The Cold War was peace and harmony compared to this Islamic fundamentalist shit. This is fucking terrifying.
The German Autobahn's have no speed limits in rural areas. I have driven at 160 Kph (i.e., 100 mph) and been routinely passed by faster vehicles. In fact, if you are in the left lane at that speed, they may get pretty annoyed with you if you don't get over immediately.
Thanks, that reminded me of something I've been wanting to tell the people I share the roads with:
When you're piddling along in the left lane, and you see a car coming up on you fast, flashing their lights, it means you need to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY - not slow down and stay in the passing lane, not pace the car next to you, and definitely not slam on your fucking brakes.
The next one of you monkey-fuckers that tries to kill me just because you're too goddamn selfish or stupid to understand why it's called the passing lane is getting run off the road and beaten with cudgels.
Capisce?
That's some pretty dangerous advice. Flashing lights mean different things in different parts of the world. In England it means "come on out, be my guest." In Germany it means "Coming through, make a hole." In America there's no such clarity about what it means.
"Global warming" as the term is generally used is not science. It's a political program. It's true that measured temperatures are higher than the last hundred years or so. That's a fact. But the "why it's happening" is not science, it's conjecture (I deliberately don't use the word theory, because I respect theory).
Sure. And evolution by natural selection hasn't been proven yet either, has it?
*rolls eyes*
Anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot!
Disagree? See you proved my point!
Or:
This story is the globalists trying to justify their lies with the only thing they can: BS.
See what I mean?
Anti-vaccination vegans haven't exactly taken over the Democratic party now, have they? They just don't have enough voting strength because they're confined to the fringe. The fact is, right wingers are way more prone to paranoid thinking and rejection of reality than liberals.
We notice that all of the mentioned 'science' issues are tied to public policy positions of the left and that the 'scientists' are working outside their areas of expertise when they push policy solutions to the problems they 'find.'
Whole lines of research were simply forbidden as career ending. Consipracy theories almost always pop up in vacumns of fact, especially when it is pretty obvious that facts are suspected but being supressed.
So... is your post some kind of satire, or what?
Bloody good question. These right wing nut jobs are so far out there these days that it's hard to tell the satirists from the real deal.
Why would one want all kids to know programming? We don't require all kids to know automotive design or repair, nor manufacturing techniques for flat panel displays, nor cellphone antenna design, etc.
Programming uses math? Well some arithmetic, surely, but usually not much else.
Perhaps some sort of a fun introductory course might be good as it might spark interest in programming for some students, though.
An introductory course for 6 year olds? What a great idea! If only TFS said exactly that.
Computer programming is not such a fundamental area of study that it deserves to be elevated to the level of "math", "reading" and "writing". To a large extent this is a zero sum game. To teach programming in primary school necessarily crowds out something else. History? Foreign language? Music? Some subject other than "computer programming" is getting the shaft.
Hopefully it's religion.
Robots don't have the capacity to suffer? Neither do corporations, but they're "people, my friend." I wouldn't put it past SCOTUS or some other branch of the US government to grant rights like this. Stranger things have happened.
Bad English. She was trying to say "To be standing up in this means everything to me"...
"Bad" English is a point of view. Many northern English dialects use "I am stood" instead of "I am standing" or "I am sat" instead of "I am sitting".