Rights cease to exist where legal representation falters.
Rights cease when common people can't understand what rights they have because lawyers obfuscate the English language with legalese and thereby try to cement their own overpriced job security. Also by way of insisting on self regulating their own (hah!) legal monopoly on administering and representing the legal system. Too bad we don't have a justice system any more or the modern lawyer would likely be tarred and feathered.
scenario: Instead of a knife the homeowner gets out a gun (who cares what kind, pistol, shotgun, rifle). He goes outside and sees a cop in shadows under a bush and points the gun at him/her... all perfectly legal to him since all he can't tell is that these are prowlers trespassing on his property. (I am assuming California is a state that allows a home owner to actively defend his/her home with a gun. Regardless, the 'hacker' could have caused this to happen in a state where it is permissible.) The other police see him point the gun and shoot him. This could have been the result of this and would not have the fault of the police nor reflect badly on their training or on the quality of their work. It would be well within their training since they think the home owner is an armed and dangerous felon.
There are many permutations of this scenario.
Bottom line: you are wrong. Anyone, including the police can say that, 'this was an irresponsible and dangerous action the hacker took and someone could have been killed.' And by saying it, it certainly does not indicate any lack of confidence in the police training. And I don't believe the police are infallible, nor do I think that they believe they are infallible. Otherwise they wouldn't train so hard to make sure they do things as well as they possibly can. Why train if you are infallible?
I agree that re-bundling (I assume by this you mean one big download and install) makes sense for each major release, like from OO.o v2 to maybe OO.o v3. However for minor bug and security fixes... I still think it is ridiculous. I'm sure I'm not the first to say this (since it is, I think, so sensible), so the fact they still force us to do a major install for issues that should only recall a minor patch is probably an indication of a fundamental limitation of the product itself.
I would think that this would also be a consideration when planning on what office product to install at large companies. Full upgrades (as opposed to smaller patches) tend to cause more issues, and would be a negative point for OO.o.
I'm thinking about building one myself to get some numbers and see how well it scales. I know some people in Africa who might be interested in something like this...
It WAS made in America. Make sure it hasn't been patented first.
I wish open office would send incremental patches instead of making people download 70 to 100 megabytes when security or bug fixes come out. Slag Microsoft for being an abusive monopolist, but at least they know how to minimize the download sizes when patching. Maybe it is related to Open Office's architecture and how it has to load damn near everything even if you are just using one piece of it (slowing it down and sucking memory). That is, maybe they need to solve their performance issues first. I use OOO and don't have MS Office installed. But the patch thing really bugs me. Fortunately I have high speed internet. However I think there is still a huge number of people on dial up in the United States (if not a majority). Huge downloads like this basically prohibit those people from using the product. They will use unpatched pirated versions of MS Office, or something they can buy for cheap instead. And even if they can buy OOO on a CD they won't patch it until it is not a huge bandwidth burden.
to say nothing of being invalid in most countries in the world
Given how ridiculous even the concept of U.S. software and business methodology patents are, do you think this will make much of a difference in a patent case in the U.S.? I think not.
These types of things can no longer happen. Why? Because projects and HR types now insist on only hiring certified project managers with PMP after their names.... mmmmmm errrrrrr.... never mind.... forget I said anything. Sorry. Carry on.
I tried to install Kubuntu on the striped drives of my windows xp box in a dual boot configuration, but linux didn't see the stripe. Turned out it doesn't recognize SATA drives that are striped on windows installs. Many searches on the web for the solution kept saying how SATA raid is not REAL raid so why not use Linux's built in software raid. Because I have windows on their and want to dual boot since I need the windows install for several things. And to me when it runs on windows when I start the machine, it is a 'real' raid. It is a very common configuration. I found out that there is some method to make it work but like many of these situations in the Linux world it is too much of a pain in the ass for me to bother with any more. At one time I had the energy to do this. Not any more. I am more like John Q Public. I just want to use the tool that is my computer. I no longer want to build it. Windows XP works fine for me on this box... it is my only dual core machine and the one I want to use the most as it is fastest.
So not to totally give up, I installed Kubuntu on the machine my xp box replaced. Still a pretty good, though single core machine... with no striped drives. It installed nicely, except that I could use my wireless card. A Linksys (I don't want to hear about what I should have bought... I can go to any damn computer store and buy a Linksys, it is a market leader. Those are the cards that should 'just work' when you install them... the market leaders). I use WPA encryption because it is the more secure choice. Except I find out that wireless encryption in Linux 'is like a box of chocolates', you never know what you are going to get. Except that the box of chocolates are always edible, and Linux it seems has a huge problem digesting WPA encryption without have to read half a dozen 'how-to's and again spend hour building the tool. I caved in and hard wired it to the router.
I like the idea of Linux. I like the idea of someone pushing a thorn in the side of monopolies. I have had, and continue to have Linux installed on at least one machine at home for something like 7 or 8 years now. And I do use it for certain tasks... usually programming related. But I am older and just would like to use the tool and not have to build it every time something changes. Especially with important items like disk striping and wireless. I am sure that it is this sentiment that keeps it at less than 1% of the market. How about less 3D desktop frills, as cool as it is, and more functional stuff like being able to use WPA encryption on my wireless card, or recognizing my windows striped raid when I want to set up a dual boot install.
-40 in Montreal... sure WITH the windchill... which is a BS measure designed to make easterners feel tougher. Now Winterpeg Manisnowba... -40 or more without the windchill (not all the time but occasionally). Watched a guy drive an old cadallac with the roof cut off at 40 below one day. He was dressed almost exactly like the sand people in Star Wars. Crazy bugger got photographed and made the front page... still couldn't tell who he was.:) I was waiting for the bus at the time.
I agree... but mainly because the internet is as ubiquitous and as predominant a means of communications as is the telephone. Therefore the internet should be considered one of those vehicles. And the ISPs are merely a vehicle to connect to the internet so should have no right to determine what and what not a person is allowed to say. Especially with the near monopoly that AT&T has. However, they achieved the near monopoly by way of lobbying and vote buying (pretty much the same thing). They will probably use that tactic to get what they want in this case as well.
As far a monopoly goes... look at this post to this topic if you haven't seen it already... It is both funny and disturbing.
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I work on order and billing systems for telcos and have some insight into this... and was just thinking the same damn thing. Colbert makes the point so much better than I could. Glad you posted this.
Monopoly? We got no steengking monopoly. (apologies to 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre':) )
If companies suddenly had to start paying overtime, salaries would have to be adjusted.
Maybe. And maybe they would hire IT and Project Managers who knew their ass from a hole in the ground. Ones who knew how to actually manage a project, set and manage reasonable expectations on all sides, and not use brute force to meet unreasonable time lines. I personally am tired of working on projects where someone's lack of planning becomes my crisis and I am asked (forced really... work or you're fired) to work massive overtime. Meanwhile the fucktard who mismanages the project goes home at a reasonable hour and gets their weekends off.
Then there are the companies that like to hire less people than the project requires and keep them on perpetual overtime. I have found that one of the 'new' telecoms really likes to do that.
sad how you have to hit most slashdotters over the head in order for them to get a joke isn't it. oh yeah... I am a troll [/sarcasm] I guess subtle humour is beyond most here... present company excepted.:)
... and I suppose you never heard jokes about how Soviet Russians used to make claims to inventing all sorts of things for propaganda purposes?....
I hate having to explain the joke to people who like to look for ways to be offended. Glad to see someone 'got it' (the first comment to my post). Now, go away and sit in the corner and think about what you did, and don't come back until you're ready to say sorry.:)
Finland is a nice country and Nokias are my favourite cell phone.:)
Being published does not mean it is true, validated, verified. It means it is being published in a peer reviewed journal so that it can be validated and verified. There have been many papers refuted after and because they were published. e.g. cold fusion.
The really interesting thing will now be 'what will the peer reviewers have to say about this'? Will they be able to duplicate the experimental results? Again, that was the death of cold fusion: no-one could duplicate the experimental results. And in some cases it is the experimental methodologies that are questioned and debunked as they sometimes produce deceptive results.
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1) Did apple wait too long to release Leopard?
2) Bunch of inane B.S.
3) Conclusion: Hmmmmmm... no, never mind.
Stupid article.
you should have stopped at least at
There are many permutations of this scenario.
There is high school civics and then there is the real world.
scenario: Instead of a knife the homeowner gets out a gun (who cares what kind, pistol, shotgun, rifle). He goes outside and sees a cop in shadows under a bush and points the gun at him/her... all perfectly legal to him since all he can't tell is that these are prowlers trespassing on his property. (I am assuming California is a state that allows a home owner to actively defend his/her home with a gun. Regardless, the 'hacker' could have caused this to happen in a state where it is permissible.) The other police see him point the gun and shoot him. This could have been the result of this and would not have the fault of the police nor reflect badly on their training or on the quality of their work. It would be well within their training since they think the home owner is an armed and dangerous felon.
There are many permutations of this scenario.
Bottom line: you are wrong. Anyone, including the police can say that, 'this was an irresponsible and dangerous action the hacker took and someone could have been killed.' And by saying it, it certainly does not indicate any lack of confidence in the police training. And I don't believe the police are infallible, nor do I think that they believe they are infallible. Otherwise they wouldn't train so hard to make sure they do things as well as they possibly can. Why train if you are infallible?
Maybe, but I'm more worried about unauthorized updates.
I agree that re-bundling (I assume by this you mean one big download and install) makes sense for each major release, like from OO.o v2 to maybe OO.o v3. However for minor bug and security fixes... I still think it is ridiculous. I'm sure I'm not the first to say this (since it is, I think, so sensible), so the fact they still force us to do a major install for issues that should only recall a minor patch is probably an indication of a fundamental limitation of the product itself.
I would think that this would also be a consideration when planning on what office product to install at large companies. Full upgrades (as opposed to smaller patches) tend to cause more issues, and would be a negative point for OO.o.
I wish open office would send incremental patches instead of making people download 70 to 100 megabytes when security or bug fixes come out. Slag Microsoft for being an abusive monopolist, but at least they know how to minimize the download sizes when patching. Maybe it is related to Open Office's architecture and how it has to load damn near everything even if you are just using one piece of it (slowing it down and sucking memory). That is, maybe they need to solve their performance issues first. I use OOO and don't have MS Office installed. But the patch thing really bugs me. Fortunately I have high speed internet. However I think there is still a huge number of people on dial up in the United States (if not a majority). Huge downloads like this basically prohibit those people from using the product. They will use unpatched pirated versions of MS Office, or something they can buy for cheap instead. And even if they can buy OOO on a CD they won't patch it until it is not a huge bandwidth burden.
Thank God... with all that mayo you'll be needing the open heart surgery soon.
These types of things can no longer happen. Why? Because projects and HR types now insist on only hiring certified project managers with PMP after their names.... mmmmmm errrrrrr.... never mind.... forget I said anything. Sorry. Carry on.
I tried to install Kubuntu on the striped drives of my windows xp box in a dual boot configuration, but linux didn't see the stripe. Turned out it doesn't recognize SATA drives that are striped on windows installs. Many searches on the web for the solution kept saying how SATA raid is not REAL raid so why not use Linux's built in software raid. Because I have windows on their and want to dual boot since I need the windows install for several things. And to me when it runs on windows when I start the machine, it is a 'real' raid. It is a very common configuration. I found out that there is some method to make it work but like many of these situations in the Linux world it is too much of a pain in the ass for me to bother with any more. At one time I had the energy to do this. Not any more. I am more like John Q Public. I just want to use the tool that is my computer. I no longer want to build it. Windows XP works fine for me on this box... it is my only dual core machine and the one I want to use the most as it is fastest.
So not to totally give up, I installed Kubuntu on the machine my xp box replaced. Still a pretty good, though single core machine... with no striped drives. It installed nicely, except that I could use my wireless card. A Linksys (I don't want to hear about what I should have bought... I can go to any damn computer store and buy a Linksys, it is a market leader. Those are the cards that should 'just work' when you install them... the market leaders). I use WPA encryption because it is the more secure choice. Except I find out that wireless encryption in Linux 'is like a box of chocolates', you never know what you are going to get. Except that the box of chocolates are always edible, and Linux it seems has a huge problem digesting WPA encryption without have to read half a dozen 'how-to's and again spend hour building the tool. I caved in and hard wired it to the router.
I like the idea of Linux. I like the idea of someone pushing a thorn in the side of monopolies. I have had, and continue to have Linux installed on at least one machine at home for something like 7 or 8 years now. And I do use it for certain tasks... usually programming related. But I am older and just would like to use the tool and not have to build it every time something changes. Especially with important items like disk striping and wireless. I am sure that it is this sentiment that keeps it at less than 1% of the market. How about less 3D desktop frills, as cool as it is, and more functional stuff like being able to use WPA encryption on my wireless card, or recognizing my windows striped raid when I want to set up a dual boot install.
-40 in Montreal... sure WITH the windchill... which is a BS measure designed to make easterners feel tougher. Now Winterpeg Manisnowba... -40 or more without the windchill (not all the time but occasionally). Watched a guy drive an old cadallac with the roof cut off at 40 below one day. He was dressed almost exactly like the sand people in Star Wars. Crazy bugger got photographed and made the front page... still couldn't tell who he was. :) I was waiting for the bus at the time.
Mind you no one other than the U.S. needs to use it. Everyone else are 'offshore'. Americans are the ones who are offshoring.
I agree... but mainly because the internet is as ubiquitous and as predominant a means of communications as is the telephone. Therefore the internet should be considered one of those vehicles. And the ISPs are merely a vehicle to connect to the internet so should have no right to determine what and what not a person is allowed to say. Especially with the near monopoly that AT&T has. However, they achieved the near monopoly by way of lobbying and vote buying (pretty much the same thing). They will probably use that tactic to get what they want in this case as well.
As far a monopoly goes... look at this post to this topic if you haven't seen it already... It is both funny and disturbing.
Moderators: you absolutely need to mark this Insightful
.I work on order and billing systems for telcos and have some insight into this... and was just thinking the same damn thing. Colbert makes the point so much better than I could. Glad you posted this.
:) )
Monopoly? We got no steengking monopoly. (apologies to 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre'
Well obviously they are censoring no
Maybe. And maybe they would hire IT and Project Managers who knew their ass from a hole in the ground. Ones who knew how to actually manage a project, set and manage reasonable expectations on all sides, and not use brute force to meet unreasonable time lines. I personally am tired of working on projects where someone's lack of planning becomes my crisis and I am asked (forced really... work or you're fired) to work massive overtime. Meanwhile the fucktard who mismanages the project goes home at a reasonable hour and gets their weekends off.
Then there are the companies that like to hire less people than the project requires and keep them on perpetual overtime. I have found that one of the 'new' telecoms really likes to do that.
sad how you have to hit most slashdotters over the head in order for them to get a joke isn't it. oh yeah... I am a troll [/sarcasm] I guess subtle humour is beyond most here... present company excepted. :)
... and I suppose you never heard jokes about how Soviet Russians used to make claims to inventing all sorts of things for propaganda purposes?....
I hate having to explain the joke to people who like to look for ways to be offended. Glad to see someone 'got it' (the first comment to my post). Now, go away and sit in the corner and think about what you did, and don't come back until you're ready to say sorry. :)
Finland is a nice country and Nokias are my favourite cell phone. :)
Interesting... but in what country. I'm not saying that isn't the case in Australia, but U.S. laws might not apply there or anywhere else.
Don't you know Linux was invented in Russia? :p
Nice troll.
Being published does not mean it is true, validated, verified. It means it is being published in a peer reviewed journal so that it can be validated and verified. There have been many papers refuted after and because they were published. e.g. cold fusion.
The really interesting thing will now be 'what will the peer reviewers have to say about this'? Will they be able to duplicate the experimental results? Again, that was the death of cold fusion: no-one could duplicate the experimental results. And in some cases it is the experimental methodologies that are questioned and debunked as they sometimes produce deceptive results.