Part of your fascinating post reminds me of OpenDoc (System 7.5 +) using the old framework of "Publish and Subscribe" which I thought had always been ignored unnecessarily.
I'm one of those high end PowerPC latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Gucci wearing, boutique going, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, media liberal elitist San Franciscan that's a left-wing freak show who IS a special and unique snowflake.
But I don't have a trust fund.
I think the optimized version of 10.6 - "Snow Leopard" would be a fitting end to what is the much beloved PPCs.
At this writing Parent is deemed "Flamebait" - curious, that, I find the concerns quite valid, they do keep tabs on Spy assets. They DO shoot horses, don't they?:-) Being naive is not an excuse. For those of you scoring at home (and those of you alone) it's accustom to giving every man/woman an AK-47 to take home in a land of mercenaries. Loose cannons (canons too), indeed.
The Army's got chops. I'm just glad that after 10 years, or so, they've finally joined the fray.
I admire the man (Richard Clarke), but have never read his books through and through, I think it's a commentary on these United States when you have to write the truth disguised as fiction to clue people in. I have been subject to hardware attacks, twice - suspected firmware and chip crowding techniques, 10 years apart, on Macintoshes. The result was a lot of name calling and personal attacks by people who would not even investigate past their reputations. It's a sad commentary. This DARPA initiative is a real step in the right direction - this is a true problem, and the sooner they begin uncovering it, the better. All my best to the teams.
FTFAs:... counterfeit hardware such as corporate switches and routers from respectable manufacturers such as 3com and Cisco.
"So what kind of security risk would be involved here? If the copies are identical down to the individual parts we are looking at a change in firmware at the most."
Jesus Christ!, that only took 10 years, now will they wake up to the "legitimate" hardware already compromise - and in progress? Should maybe only take 5 more years? I predict nothing will be done until "the meltdown", then we'll be screaming at interrogators "DON'T TAZE ME BRO!";-) Us, of course, being "part of the problem". God save us - from ourselves.
Is that as far as they've gotten, yesterday's news? Crack teams, indeed - on crack, more likely. How long has it been since they've HAD their "eye on the ball"? Decades? Such trusting souls. Forgive my "scathe-y-ness, but they need to quit preening themselves and get some experts who know the score - obviously they've not the time to even realize there "is a curve" to getting up to speed. Someone like Fred Cohen, who, could, at least, divine such a problem.
Don't you think we're missing the larger picture here?
HP Admits To Selling Infected Flash-Floppy Drives Hybrid devices for ProLiant servers pre-infected with worms, HP says:
A security analyst with the SANS Institute's Internet Storm Center (ISC) suspects that the infection originated at the factory, and was meant to target ProLiant servers. "I think it's naive to assume that these are not targeted attacks," said John Bambenek, who is also a researcher at the University of Illinois.
"To be safe, yes, you should scan every piece of hardware," he said. "Certainly with devices distributed by corporations."
- How about THEY should scan every piece of hardware?
- COMMUNIST China sending infected hardware - who'd thunk? - Can you just imagine their FIRMWARE?
- Sure you can.
Counterfeit Chips Raise Big Hacking, Terror Threats, Experts Say Counterfeit Chinese Chips Raise Big Hacking and Terror Threats - The Manchurian Chip:
This past January, two brothers from Texas, Michael and Robert Edman, appeared in court to face federal charges of selling counterfeit computer equipment to, among others, the Air Force, Marine Corps, Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Energy, numerous universities and defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin.
Counterintelligence Response: Another result was that the United States and its NATO allies later "rolled up the entire Line X collection network, both in the U.S. and overseas." Weiss said "the heart of Soviet technology collection crumbled and would not recover."
- So, Communist China produces computer components for the U.S. (world) inserting truncated, obsfucated microcode, when run with sister-cards that, upon boot, combine to executable, then retrieve from the WWW a logic bomb, which upon download, sits in your "bad boot blocks", hidden, until whatever event that it's needed, where it can do anything from start bon fires (burn your graphic cards) all over the country (world), or, possibly to provide easy access in the form of a "lockable "dutch door" to [insert nightmare here] knowing lazy U.S. companies will fail to even "batch check" hardware from the factories - relying on good ol stupid Americans who flinch at the mere mention of the word "conspiracy".
CLASSIC.
So, is this where I now get attacked for looking skyward?
"by Nerdposeur I'm one of those religious, conservative nutjobs that gets mocked on this site, and I find this outrageous. Here is the Fourth Amendment:
Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. That's been suspended?? Doesn't apply to military operations?? If the citizens have no rights over against the military, why do we have the Third Amendment?
Amendment III No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Now I see that there is a difference in the Third Amendment between "in time of peace" and "in time of war," but realistically, this "time of war" against terrorists can NEVER be officially and completely over. There are no official enemies, so there can be no official truce. The government is overstepping its Constitutional bounds, and it needs to stop. We have to be careful that we do not lose our identity as a country of freedom via our efforts to protect that freedom.
----
Hey, this is Slashdot - we don't mind, just as long as you hate MS and don't post Goatse, everything's cool Bro.
Short answer? NO SLEEPOVERS.
Your question is best answered by a professional: Keith shall set you free:
I concur. IF - you're (you, Windows/Linux hotshots) truly concerned, jet an email to him, and- or, mail him a care package with some old RAM, NICs, cables, hell, that old server - stuff you have laying around - yeah THAT stuff over there in a pile.
There's nothing worse than the recently converted.
Yeah, I like Macs and Apple, but what takes the cake is being corrected (incorrectly) by a recently "enlightened" Windows refugee. They're as bad as former smokers, slingin' Kool-Aid like a pro. OK, OK, I got to come clean - *some* of these folks were former customers of mine - that *I* moved to an Apple solution because they were so beat up (financially) that their businesses suffered. They now fix things themselves. FootBullet.
Should've been a Windows tech (MCSE), those guys got it good. *sigh*
collusion |klo zh n| noun secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, esp. in order to cheat or deceive others : the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers | collusion between media owners and political leaders.
Law such cooperation or conspiracy, esp. between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.
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- and you thought they were kidding.
Not Insane:
http://www.firesigntheatre.com/albums/ni2.mp3
A drug companies wet dream come true. Truly, not insane
See Blinkenlights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights
Shot in the dark?
Multihoming:
Cable/DSL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multihoming
Multihoming caveats:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multihoming#Multihoming_caveats
Get matching NIC cards.
Run a program regarding the computation of pi in divide by zero, defined as the ratio of the circumference of the zero.
Pi can be obtained from a zero if its radius and area are known.
Numerical approximations of PI:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_numerical_approximations_of_%CF%80
This should *produce* an ultra spark.
Seriously - run Plan 9 on your cluster, I want to read about this.
What you gonna do about it?
The New, Updated, Republican - Democrat House Political Hit List:
http://digg.com/political_opinion/Bush_Dog_Opposites_Those_Who_Got_it_Right
Part of your fascinating post reminds me of OpenDoc (System 7.5 +) using the old framework of "Publish and Subscribe" which I thought had always been ignored unnecessarily.
OpenDoc:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc
I'm one of those high end PowerPC latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Gucci wearing, boutique going, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, media liberal elitist San Franciscan that's a left-wing freak show who IS a special and unique snowflake.
But I don't have a trust fund.
I think the optimized version of 10.6 - "Snow Leopard" would be a fitting end to what is the much beloved PPCs.
m4s
... ah, to a good christian home, will respond immediately.
Looking to score rattlesnake
For use in a religious, err, way - rite.
At this writing Parent is deemed "Flamebait" - curious, that, I find the concerns quite valid, they do keep tabs on Spy assets. They DO shoot horses, don't they? :-)
Being naive is not an excuse.
For those of you scoring at home (and those of you alone) it's accustom to giving every man/woman an AK-47 to take home in a land of mercenaries.
Loose cannons (canons too), indeed.
The Army's got chops. I'm just glad that after 10 years, or so, they've finally joined the fray.
This is starting to get interesting.
I admire the man (Richard Clarke), but have never read his books through and through, I think it's a commentary on these United States when you have to write the truth disguised as fiction to clue people in.
I have been subject to hardware attacks, twice - suspected firmware and chip crowding techniques, 10 years apart, on Macintoshes. The result was a lot of name calling and personal attacks by people who would not even investigate past their reputations.
It's a sad commentary.
This DARPA initiative is a real step in the right direction - this is a true problem, and the sooner they begin uncovering it, the better.
All my best to the teams.
FTFAs:
"So what kind of security risk would be involved here? If the copies are identical down to the individual parts we are looking at a change in firmware at the most."
Jesus Christ!, that only took 10 years, now will they wake up to the "legitimate" hardware already compromise - and in progress?
Should maybe only take 5 more years?
I predict nothing will be done until "the meltdown", then we'll be screaming at interrogators "DON'T TAZE ME BRO!"
Us, of course, being "part of the problem".
God save us - from ourselves.
Is that as far as they've gotten, yesterday's news? Crack teams, indeed - on crack, more likely. How long has it been since they've HAD their "eye on the ball"? Decades? Such trusting souls. Forgive my "scathe-y-ness, but they need to quit preening themselves and get some experts who know the score - obviously they've not the time to even realize there "is a curve" to getting up to speed.
Someone like Fred Cohen, who, could, at least, divine such a problem.
Morons.
Didn't We Trash This Last Year?
... fun aside, it does sound as if they've/you all attempted to adjust the rules somewhat.
Elite Network Counter Strike Force pwn Teens:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227039&cid=18391373
Amen, Brother.
This is happening on multiple fronts, and right under our collective noses.
Wait 'til you see it in action.
Don't you think we're missing the larger picture here?
HP Admits To Selling Infected Flash-Floppy Drives
Hybrid devices for ProLiant servers pre-infected with worms, HP says:
A security analyst with the SANS Institute's Internet Storm Center (ISC) suspects that the infection originated at the factory, and was meant to target ProLiant servers. "I think it's naive to assume that these are not targeted attacks," said John Bambenek, who is also a researcher at the University of Illinois.
"To be safe, yes, you should scan every piece of hardware," he said. "Certainly with devices distributed by corporations."
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;314715708
- How about THEY should scan every piece of hardware?
- COMMUNIST China sending infected hardware - who'd thunk?
- Can you just imagine their FIRMWARE?
- Sure you can.
Counterfeit Chips Raise Big Hacking, Terror Threats, Experts Say
Counterfeit Chinese Chips Raise Big Hacking and Terror Threats - The Manchurian Chip:
This past January, two brothers from Texas, Michael and Robert Edman, appeared in court to face federal charges of selling counterfeit computer equipment to, among others, the Air Force, Marine Corps, Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Energy, numerous universities and defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4253628.html
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=482520&cid=22708174
U.S.
Farewell Dossier:
Counterintelligence Response:
Another result was that the United States and its NATO allies later "rolled up the entire Line X collection network, both in the U.S. and overseas." Weiss said "the heart of Soviet technology collection crumbled and would not recover."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farewell_Dossier
- So, Communist China produces computer components for the U.S. (world) inserting truncated, obsfucated microcode, when run with sister-cards that, upon boot, combine to executable, then retrieve from the WWW a logic bomb, which upon download, sits in your "bad boot blocks", hidden, until whatever event that it's needed, where it can do anything from start bon fires (burn your graphic cards) all over the country (world), or, possibly to provide easy access in the form of a "lockable "dutch door" to [insert nightmare here] knowing lazy U.S. companies will fail to even "batch check" hardware from the factories - relying on good ol stupid Americans who flinch at the mere mention of the word "conspiracy".
CLASSIC.
So, is this where I now get attacked for looking skyward?
... Toaster, (68k) 68090, MIPS (kidding), IBM RAD6000-RAD750, AMD ...
There, you went and told everyone - they'll be no slack-jawed dumbfounded looks that are so fun to watch when they announce.
Seriously, they (Apple) was burned before and I'll bet you any amount of money they have snap-in replacements for about anything you can name.
There are some really good comments here, (checks, sees if it's /.)
After the jump - read the comments, starting here:
Further:
http://www.securityfocus.com/comments/articles/11372/33017/threaded#33017
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=453034&cid=22412440
"by Nerdposeur
I'm one of those religious, conservative nutjobs that gets mocked on this site, and I find this outrageous. Here is the Fourth Amendment:
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
That's been suspended?? Doesn't apply to military operations?? If the citizens have no rights over against the military, why do we have the Third Amendment?
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Now I see that there is a difference in the Third Amendment between "in time of peace" and "in time of war," but realistically, this "time of war" against terrorists can NEVER be officially and completely over. There are no official enemies, so there can be no official truce.
The government is overstepping its Constitutional bounds, and it needs to stop. We have to be careful that we do not lose our identity as a country of freedom via our efforts to protect that freedom.
----
Hey, this is Slashdot - we don't mind, just as long as you hate MS and don't post Goatse, everything's cool Bro.
Short answer? NO SLEEPOVERS.
Your question is best answered by a professional:
Keith shall set you free:
Special Comment
The Death Of Habeas Corpus:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15220450/
Also, when you protest - PLEASE stay inside the "Freedom Zone", you'll just piss off the Storm Troopers, it IS for your protection.
Wow - who pissed in your Cheerios?
http://slashdot.org/~jotaeleemeese
"... Don't piss on the kid's parade."
I concur.
IF - you're (you, Windows/Linux hotshots) truly concerned, jet an email to him, and- or, mail him a care package with some old RAM, NICs, cables, hell, that old server - stuff you have laying around - yeah THAT stuff over there in a pile.
http://www.victorymillbrook.com/contact.html
Parade that knowledge you have to give him a hand, I have a brother (way back when) that was like this - THIS - is an opportunity.
Contribute more than a comment, this could be really cool.
I for one, welcome you sir, as my new overlord. :-)
Please add me to your newsletter.
!
There's nothing worse than the recently converted.
Yeah, I like Macs and Apple, but what takes the cake is being corrected (incorrectly) by a recently "enlightened" Windows refugee.
They're as bad as former smokers, slingin' Kool-Aid like a pro.
OK, OK, I got to come clean - *some* of these folks were former customers of mine - that *I* moved to an Apple solution because they were so beat up (financially) that their businesses suffered.
They now fix things themselves.
FootBullet.
Should've been a Windows tech (MCSE), those guys got it good. *sigh*
So, like, what you're saying is that you DIDN'T sign the NDA about that?
Steeeeve's gonna be maddddd!
"... you have to be paying attention ... "
... How much does that cost? ;-)
THE HORROR!
O-M-G!,
Good God.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=464736&cid=22538048
Collusion is the word for the day.
collusion |klo zh n|
noun
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, esp. in order to cheat or deceive others : the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers | collusion between media owners and political leaders.
Law such cooperation or conspiracy, esp. between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.
Bet you didn't see this either:
President Weakens Espionage Oversight:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2008/03/14/president_weakens_espionage_oversight/