err that should be "the whole country of Australia was connected by some 9 track tapes in the cargo hold of weekly flights between LAX and Sydney"... just for historical accuracy of course
am I wrong in thinking that "Royalty Free" doesn't mean you don't have to pay, just that you don't have to pay per copy - what if it's say $100k to play? then FOSS is SOL
I'm not worried about that - what worries me is if something carrying long-life nucleotides reenters and breaks up in the atmosphere - the result would be not unlike Chernobyl or an atmospheric test - I'm not much worried about gammas from orbit, I do worry about specs of Pu in my lungs.
So by all means launch them (from over the US, don't follow you previous nuclear plans and do it in the Southern Hemisphere for 'safety reasons', I live here - you take your own risks) - but once they're up use them outside earth orbit, I don't want them coming back down years from now
Transparently corrupt certainly, rubberstamp no... what this is is "government for sale" nothing more nothing less
What's particularly scary is that there must be a someone in the govt, paid for by all of us, who's job is to keep tabs on people political leanings and decide if they can participate. It's the sort of thing McCarthy would have dreamed of
so you will be letting a whole bunch of these nukes off in the atmosphere? remember orion is different from some of the closed reactor propulsion systems that might work safely in the atmosphere... it involves basically a bunch of atmospheric nuke tests up through the jetstream.... these are perfectly clean bombs? it's different if you do this far enough from earth that the fallout doesn't fall back into the atmosphere (remember it doesn't 'burn up' on reentry, just gets hotter and more diffuse) but you still have to get your 8Megatonnes of mass up there
Oh and if you're using a nerva/timberwolf/whatever nuclear solution for launch please if it really is so wonderfully safe next time propose that you test it over the US rather than (as you did last time) propose to fly it over the southern hemisphere countries
you know as a disenfranchised tax payer (green card holder living in the US for 20 years until recently) I can tell you that going down to the SF Bay and dunking tea bags did no good at all. (Despite all the rhetoric the US is rather backwards about the 'no taxation without representation' thing, now we're back in NZ my US citizen wife gets to vote after a short residency)
first a tonne is 1000kg so 4.6e10 kg is 46megatonnes
and secondly how are you going to lift 8,000,000 tonnes into orbit.... at ~2tonnes a loft (using today's technologies) that's 4,000,000 launches, (if you use AP based boosters how much HCl does that put in the ozone layer? in the US this may be a theoretical issue but I live in NZ and have to worry about the ozone hole daily, sunscreen goes on here even on cloudy days)
Why Orion? it's all new, untested technology. We're all engineers here - we know nothing works right the first time, especially not rocket science. Want a kinetic kill weapon up there in 3 years, you better start pushing stuff we know and understand into orbit right now.
But you have 20 years - kinetic kill weapons are not that a good idea, little thing called the "law of conservation of momentum" you're not going to move a 64 gigatonne something much by hitting it with the sort of mass you can afford to lift off of earth (and even if it say weighed only 46 megatonnes), maybe you'll break it in a few bits you still have all those bits (I know you saw the movie, they broke it into 2 bits and they both went around the earth... but jeez it was a movie OK, they made it up, chances of that actually happening are much smaller than that of the thing hitting earth in the first place).
What you do need to do is shift it's orbit, you don't need a lot of mass or a big motor, just time - get started now, drop and iron drive and solar cells on the thing now and fire it up, maybe deliver some more mass in 5 years, carefully watch where it's going and eventually drop it into the sun or Jupiter
I think DPW drags them (probably with the same chainlink fence bit they use after to remove them).
I think it's before for a bunch of reasons: not all the JOTSs are there yet, there's a bunch of stuff around the temple (way more than there would be for clean up) and most importantly only the roads have been broken up, after the burn I'd expect the surface color between the roads to be lighter as it gets broken up.
BTW for the record this is where we launch rockets. The large horizontal line
along the bottom is where we park/camp and the smaller horizontal ones are where the launch pads go - the vertical line is from driving during setup and walking to the pads. This photo is probably a few weeks after a launch
that far from that airport the plane better not be that close to the water and it's IMHO the wrong color (ie it's not a shadow) - I think it's probably an artifact of stitching together the photos
I'm sure it's not "the most expensive station wagon ever" if we're including the cargo, I bet there are coke smugglers who lug more than this every day, and probably in the most boring looking station wagons
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err that should be "the whole country of Australia was connected by some 9 track tapes in the cargo hold of weekly flights between LAX and Sydney" ... just for historical accuracy of course
oh really ... in that case what was the answer?
am I wrong in thinking that "Royalty Free" doesn't mean you don't have to pay, just that you don't have to pay per copy - what if it's say $100k to play? then FOSS is SOL
what was the question?
I mean "radionuclides" ....
So by all means launch them (from over the US, don't follow you previous nuclear plans and do it in the Southern Hemisphere for 'safety reasons', I live here - you take your own risks) - but once they're up use them outside earth orbit, I don't want them coming back down years from now
What's particularly scary is that there must be a someone in the govt, paid for by all of us, who's job is to keep tabs on people political leanings and decide if they can participate. It's the sort of thing McCarthy would have dreamed of
The article is in an Indian newspaper, I'm sure a Utah paper would stress the fact that he's at a local university ...
well then choose one of your islands rather than one of ours ... or start early, use an ion drive and save everyone
Oh and if you're using a nerva/timberwolf/whatever nuclear solution for launch please if it really is so wonderfully safe next time propose that you test it over the US rather than (as you did last time) propose to fly it over the southern hemisphere countries
you know as a disenfranchised tax payer (green card holder living in the US for 20 years until recently) I can tell you that going down to the SF Bay and dunking tea bags did no good at all. (Despite all the rhetoric the US is rather backwards about the 'no taxation without representation' thing, now we're back in NZ my US citizen wife gets to vote after a short residency)
and secondly how are you going to lift 8,000,000 tonnes into orbit .... at ~2tonnes a loft (using today's technologies) that's 4,000,000 launches, (if you use AP based boosters how much HCl does that put in the ozone layer? in the US this may be a theoretical issue but I live in NZ and have to worry about the ozone hole daily, sunscreen goes on here even on cloudy days)
But you have 20 years - kinetic kill weapons are not that a good idea, little thing called the "law of conservation of momentum" you're not going to move a 64 gigatonne something much by hitting it with the sort of mass you can afford to lift off of earth (and even if it say weighed only 46 megatonnes), maybe you'll break it in a few bits you still have all those bits (I know you saw the movie, they broke it into 2 bits and they both went around the earth ... but jeez it was a movie OK, they made it up, chances of that actually happening are much smaller than that of the thing hitting earth in the first place).
What you do need to do is shift it's orbit, you don't need a lot of mass or a big motor, just time - get started now, drop and iron drive and solar cells on the thing now and fire it up, maybe deliver some more mass in 5 years, carefully watch where it's going and eventually drop it into the sun or Jupiter
possible yes, extremely no ... unless someone breaks the one-way hashing algorithm
I think he has
I think it's before for a bunch of reasons: not all the JOTSs are there yet, there's a bunch of stuff around the temple (way more than there would be for clean up) and most importantly only the roads have been broken up, after the burn I'd expect the surface color between the roads to be lighter as it gets broken up.
BTW for the record this is where we launch rockets. The large horizontal line along the bottom is where we park/camp and the smaller horizontal ones are where the launch pads go - the vertical line is from driving during setup and walking to the pads. This photo is probably a few weeks after a launch
that far from that airport the plane better not be that close to the water and it's IMHO the wrong color (ie it's not a shadow) - I think it's probably an artifact of stitching together the photos
that is cool - you can see a couple of images of the plane landing on the lower runway (or something really bad is about to happen)
maybe it moved ....
that should be "dye in the board stock"
no it's die in the board stock, a pretty standard sort of option these days, we sometimes use colors to distinguish different prototypes
that's not the point - read the comment I was replying to .... as the guy said it has little to do with speed and power ....
you mean like this?
were they bought? or licensed?
I'm sure it's not "the most expensive station wagon ever" if we're including the cargo, I bet there are coke smugglers who lug more than this every day, and probably in the most boring looking station wagons